Author Topic: Wm Fredrick Posey AKA Turtle Heart - "Ojibwe Indian Priest" living in Italy  (Read 55034 times)

Autumn

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So which CEO nominated his work?

This is just hypothetical, but that would have to be Dr. John E. Warnock, who held the title of CEO in 1997.

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Warnock served as chief executive officer of Adobe from 1982 until December 2000.

http://www.adobe.com/leaders/board-directors.html

There is no digital art in that History of Computers Smithsonian collection.  I searched the database every way I could to see if his work was in some other collection, but nothing came up.  However, giving him the benefit of the doubt, I did find this on the Smithsonian site:

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Searching our Online Collections

As you use the online collections database, please keep the following points in mind:

    The searchable collections database is not complete. The objects available for viewing on the website are only part of the Museum's total collections. We are working to expand and improve electronic access to the collections.
    The search includes material from multiple sources. By default the search returns items held in the Museum's curatorial divisions, Archives Center, and Libraries. Filter controls in the right column allow you to limit your search by data source or other criteria. Or, click the "Results from All Smithsonian Collections" tab to see objects housed at other Smithsonian museums, archives, and libraries.
    Most collections are not on public display. Only a small percentage of the Museum's collections can be displayed at any given time. In some cases the display status is indicated in the individual artifact record, but the status is subject to change and online information may not be current.

So, there may be a reason why we can't find his digital art at the Smithsonian, but I suspect that is highly unlikely since nothing else he has said is turning out to be true.

If there were such digital art, don't you think he would be so proud of it he would put a copy of it on his own website?  But, then again, he did say it was in the History of Computers collection at the Smithsonian and it is not in that collection--just computers, other digital devices, peripherals, software, etc.

Offline loudcrow

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His claims to fame regarding computers is total nonsense. I am Native and worked on what is now called the Internet
prior to 1986. The "Internet" was text-based and used by the U.S. Government, research companies (mostly computer
companies) and colleges and universities. There were no web browsers, there was no World Wide Web and one had
to be intimately fluent in computer commands at command level in order to do anything on the Internet. I worked with
several students from M.I.T. in the early 1980's and Fred certainly wasn't one of them. I'd be interested to know which
operating system he used and which utility programs and commands he used to communicate, transfer files, etc.

So we have a child prodigy who graduated from Duke Medical University in 1969 at age 20, was in the computer industry
during the birth of the Internet in the early 1980's, meddled in computer art and was nominated for his work with digital
computer art by the CEO of Abode, Inc. (Bruce Chizen?) and his work is archived in the Permanent Collection at the
Smithsonian Museum of Computer History. Lemme grab my boots and shovel.

http://www.thepurpleheart.com/recipient/

A William F. Posey from Lorain, Ohio is listed as being a Purple Heart recipient. I don't know if this is the same person
or not and will investigate further.


Offline loudcrow

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William Franklin Posey, was born on May 24, 1920, was  from Lorain, Ohio, and died in 2009 at age 89.

Is there even one shred of truth in anything Mr. Poser claims?????

Epiphany

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William Franklin Posey, was born on May 24, 1920, was  from Lorain, Ohio, and died in 2009 at age 89.

Is there even one shred of truth in anything Mr. Poser claims?????

The National Purple Heart Hall of Honor doesn't have a listing of all Purple Heart recipients:

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With your help we are building a registry of Purple Heart recipients from all branches of service

http://www.thepurpleheart.com/faqs/ - but this is still important to know, our guy is not this William F Posey. And we still need those boots, shovels, and I'm thinking hard hats and gloves too. :)

Loudcrow's computer info is also very important, Fred Posey writes often about his supposed computer history.

Autumn, I'm with you on that art, surely if his art was in the Smithsonian anything, he'd have a copy of it on his web site.

Hopefully we can eventually find more on his father - census, military records etc. could help. Fred's claim: "My father was an enrolled tribal member.".

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Offline loudcrow

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1940 U.S. Census:

Name:    Paul W Posey
Titles and Terms:    
Event Type:    Census
Event Date:    1940
Event Place:    Ward 5, Vincennes, Vincennes Township, Knox, Indiana, United States
Gender:    Male
Age:    21
Marital Status:    Single
Race (Original):    W
Race:    White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):    Employee
Relationship to Head of Household:    Employee
Birthplace:    Indiana
Birth Year (Estimated):    1919
Last Place of Residence:    Same Place
District:    42-26
Family Number:    679
Sheet Number and Letter:    81A
Line Number:    12
Affiliate Publication Number:    T627
Affiliate Film Number:    1061
Digital Folder Number:    005459817
Image Number:    00167
     Household    Gender    Age    Birthplace
Head    Richard Moran    M    73    Indiana
Wife    Mary E Moran    F    68    Indiana
Employee    Mary Dallas Childress    F    46    Kentucky
Employee    Paul W Posey    M    21    Indiana
Lodger    Ovel Morgan    M    43    Indiana
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Epiphany

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I wonder if this 1994 solicitation was to help someone else or actually for himself.

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alt.native ›386 for an Elderly Lady

William Frederic Posey    
2/8/94

        Dear Friends: (help this Elder)

        I am looking for a donation of a used 386 computer with good hardware
        for an elderly lady who lives all alone in the S California desert.

        ... she loves computers and spends more and more time with them since her
        husband passed away last year...she has a real  aptitude and this work makes her happy. She is VERY
        poor.

        Right now she has a piece of trash 286 that someone
        gave here.

        If I had the money I would get her a 486, but I am not a banker myself. I do have a modem and
        software to share with her.

        I am a Native American artist and I am willing to TRADE one of my stone sculptures to anyone
        who might want to bring a little light to this fine lady's life.

        Respectfully:

        Turtle Heart (Chippewa)
        aka William Posey
       
        Johannesburg CA  93528

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.native/KMXYBtsJNLk/_hNp1vvzYRQJ
 

Epiphany

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That 1940 census looks definitely like a match.

If so, he was white, born in Indiana, working as a hotel clerk in a hotel.

Offline loudcrow

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Paul W Posey, "Georgia, Death Index, 1933-1998"
Name:    Paul W Posey
Event Type:    Death
Event Date:    24 May 1988
Event Place:    Richmond, Georgia
Registration Date:    31 May 1988
District/Parish/County:    Richmond
Gender:    Male
Age:    69
Race:    W
Birth Year (Estimated):    1919
Record Type:    
Certificate Number:    022667

Epiphany

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Paul W Posey, "United States, World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946"
Name:    Paul W Posey
Name (Original):    POSEY PAUL W
Event Type:    Military Service
Event Date:    10 Feb 1941
Term of Enlistment:    
Event Place:    Ft Benjamin Harrison, Indiana, United States
Residence Place:    
Race:    White
Citizenship Status:    citizen
Birth Year:    1918
Birthplace:    INDIANA

Offline loudcrow

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Looks like you and I are on the same page, Epiphany :)

Name:    Mary Hutto
Event Type:    Census
Event Date:    1930
Event Place:    Holly Hill, Orangeburg, South Carolina
Gender:    Female
Age:    6
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Birthplace:    South Carolina
Birth Year (Estimated):    1924
Immigration Year:    
Relationship to Head of Household:    Daughter
Father's Birthplace:    South Carolina
Mother's Birthplace:    South Carolina
District:    0031
Household ID:    234
Sheet Number and Letter:    12B
Line Number:    65
Affiliate Publication Number:    T626, roll 2208
GS Film number:    2341942
Digital Folder Number:    4547337
Image Number:    00484
     Household    Gender    Age    Birthplace
Head    Mood Hutto    M    30    South Carolina
Wife    Esther Hutto    F    26    South Carolina
Daughter    Mary Hutto    F    6    South Carolina
Son    Jack Hutto    M    3    South Carolina
Son    Mood Hutto    M    1    South Carolina

The genealogy of the Hutto family is well-documented. They are of European origin.

Offline loudcrow

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http://www.examiner.com/article/italian-cuisine-discovering-the-importance-of-capers

William F. Posey 3 years ago

I am an American who moved to Pantelleria five years ago. before coming here I had only experienced capers in the little bottles common in USA supermarkets. However, the taste of really correctly preserved capers in salty bags is the only way to buy them. Bottle capers are about the least interesting way to obtain them. Over here we buy them in sacks, wash the capers, then store them in olive oil for daily use. I was really surprised how fantastic "real" capers are. You can make a great "dip" by blending capers with a little mayonnaise or similar condiment, along with a bit of olive oil. Very fine and simple and delicious.

 W F Posey 3 years ago

Gathering: Pantelleria capers are gathered by hand. The entire Pantesche family participates in the short but grueling season. gathering begins before the sun come up. The gathering stops before mid-day. Everyone returns home and process the days collection. the work is done by hands and fingers. there are no machines involved. the capers are also gathered and cured in the family home before being brought to a cooperative for packaging. It is really quite hard work.

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One and the same person.

Epiphany

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Name:    Paul Posey
Event Type:    Census
Event Date:    1930
Event Place:    Vincennes, Knox,

Indiana
Gender:    Male
Age:    11
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Birthplace:    Indiana
Birth Year (Estimated):    1919
Immigration Year:    
Relationship to Head of Household:    

Son
Father's Birthplace:    Indiana
Mother's Birthplace:    Indiana

Head    Canis Posey    M    39    Indiana
Wife    Aurella Posey    F    36    Indiana

Son    Paul Posey    M    11    Indiana

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This transcription lists his father as "Canis" but I think that is incorrect, same family in 1920 has father as "Louis". Everyone white in census.

Offline loudcrow

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Offline loudcrow

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Mr. Poser's website sacredpipe.org was coded in 1999 and used the first version of HTML.  In December 1999, there
were 9,560,866 websites.

Offline loudcrow

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Name:    Canis Posey
Event Type:    Census
Event Date:    1930
Event Place:    Vincennes, Knox, Indiana
Gender:    Male
Age:    39
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Birthplace:    Indiana
Birth Year (Estimated):    1891
Immigration Year:    
Relationship to Head of Household:    Head
Father's Birthplace:    Indiana
Mother's Birthplace:    Indiana
District:    0027
Household ID:    75
Sheet Number and Letter:    3B
Line Number:    85
Affiliate Publication Number:    T626, roll 597
GS Film number:    2340332
Digital Folder Number:    4584692
Image Number:    00054
     Household    Gender    Age    Birthplace
Head    Canis Posey    M    39    Indiana
Wife    Aurella Posey    F    36    Indiana
Daughter    Grace Posey    F    13    Indiana
Son    Paul Posey    M    11    Indiana
Daughter    Marjory Posey    F    9    Indiana
Son    Ellwood Posey    M    6    Indiana
Daughter    Aurella Posey    F    3    Indiana

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"My Grandfather was a Mide-Wian at the sixth degree. "

This certainly does not appear to be the truth as both of your grandfathers are listed as White on the U.S. Census records
and neither of them lived on or near the Ojibwa.
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