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Title: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: flyaway on October 25, 2010, 05:51:20 am
Would like to know if any body knows anything about this Lady :

My fathers family is Paint Clan, my mothers family is Wolf Clan. Father is Western Band and Mother is Eastern Band. I am Wolf Clan, Eastern Band. I do not claim to be anything other than Agiya Doga Uhusti, my name given to me at the age of 4 in ceremony. I was raised traditional. I am not a Christian nor do I believe in any formal religion. I walk the path my grandmother (Paint Clan) raised me. I am Tsalagi first, a woman second and all else third. I know my people, my family, my lineage as far back to the point of the first contact offer a place of knowledge and growth. I do not charge nor do I disrespect others belief systems for it is theres. The work I do here in my community is not advertised or broadcast. It is all word of mouth. If you are interested in learning, please feel free to join. 
 Walk in Beauty & Light-
Weeya Wakee Smith
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: educatedindian on October 25, 2010, 02:22:49 pm
Most of what I found about her were her radio show in Wisconsin and some social networks. What's the concern about her?

http://www.2nativesr1.com/
http://www.nativenetwork.org/WeeyaWakee/
http://www.powwows.com/galleries/member.php?uid=76680&protype=1

This site?
http://themedicineway.wetpaint.com/

I don't see any pay to pray on there. Some stories, some claims about animal spirits. Are some of the teachings inaccurate, or not meant to be heard by outsiders?
I do see some claims about medicine wheels, which are certainly not Cherokee. If you go to Discussions, doesn't seem like she's attracting too many people to her Moon Ceremonies. Less than ten regulars to her site at most.
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: flyaway on October 25, 2010, 05:03:09 pm
Thanks Al,
My concern is that she has not been given the rights to do what she is doing. Her name is Michelle Smith and she is not native at all. Her teachings are not correct, Cherokee do not have moon ceremonies, this is new age, and why if she is cherokee is she teaching Onieda?
I just wondered if anyone on here has heard or met her?
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: TRIBALMOONS@yahoo.com on October 26, 2010, 10:21:54 am
I knew her in the old Y360 days. Don't know if she is what she has always claimed to be even then. But to do anything like this online is against Native beliefs. So seems to me she jumped on the "World Wide Web" band wagon.
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: Weeya Wakee Smith on December 24, 2010, 06:53:41 pm
I find it amazing that no one has their information posted and hide behind ID's. I also find it amazing that this woman claims to know me? As I have roamed through this forum I see so much negativity and spite. How sad. I know who this woman is and why she is making false statements against me. I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for the life you wish you had will never be yours because of the hate you hold in your heart. I do not have too nor will I justify myself to you or anyone else in this forum as none of you are anything more than fonts on a screen with no real pictures or names to back yourselves up. I, however, do put myself out there. I do nothing for profit ever! I have permission to speak on the things I speak on. We (my family & myself) are enrolled Tsalagi people and shame on this lady for saying such things. You do not know me, you have never stood in front of me, and you know nothing of the teachings of my people. The only thing you know is my English name that I have not used for many years and only go by my Native name given to me during ceremony when I was a child. You have told on yourself and who you are to me because of this. I can only offer you forgiveness and try to understand why you lash out the way you do. It is my hope you find what you are looking for in life that will bring you happiness.

To the rest on this forum I wish you all well. I do believe there is some good in what you are seeking to do. But I do believe you all are being deceitful and making a mockery of the things you claim to stand for in this forum. Anyone can come in here and claim whatever they wish because there is nothing to back up what they say. How sad. And I am glad someone showed me this forum. I am happy to know for a brief moment in this ladies life amongst the many other attempts she has made against other Native women, she found some type of justification in her actions. For you see, my strength lies in who I am and not in what she or any one else says I am. She knows this and it sickens her. I also do not let words make or break me. I am who I am and my actions show it.

Thank you all for the opportunity to speak on my own behalf. You will never have to figure out who I am, for I am always Weeya. I do not hide behind ID's or fake names. I am who I am. Now please take the opportunity to remove me from this group Administrator. I do not wish to belong to a group that does not practice what it so loudly preaches.

Be well - Weeya Wakee Smith
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: critter - a white non-ndn person on December 24, 2010, 07:08:47 pm
I find it amazing that you're going off half cocked here, hysterical.

Slamming everyone on this forum because you're angry at one. 

Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: flyaway on December 25, 2010, 05:17:29 am
Weeya,
I do not know who you are speaking of, but whoever it  is, you seem to hold much animosity toward her which is not what you teach AT ALL.It speaks of hating yourself when you lash out at another like that and shows no forgiveness which you have spoken of in your seminars. A woman of worth does not emotionally or mentally abuse another. So I, as a Tsalagi Elise, am calling you out on that. I am from the EB/Qualla and you are not enrolled. In fact you do say you have not yet found all the paper work you need. You also speak of being from many clans in your different sites and seminars. I would be interested in what Tsalagi name you are related to, mine is Hopper, Baker, Walkingstick.

The people on this forum are wonderful people who research and do what they can to put a stop to frauds, fakes, who are stealing our peoples teachings, and traditions and mixing it with whatever they conjure up and call it "Lakota, Cherokee, Navajo ect" . This forum has been very sucessful in what we do here. So why are you so angry at them? Your worth does not depend on what this forum says, now does it?

What is this Medicine Way all about? I have read it and still am not clear, it gives the impression that you are a medicine woman, which Tasalagi do not have but do  have other teachings when it comes to the women.

The teachings you are teaching are from Rev. T.D. Jakes "Woman Thou Art Loose" and "Women of Worth" or W.O.W. Ministries, none of which are Native teachings, but good teachings, but they need to be given the credit for the teachings. Don't you think?
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: WINative on September 21, 2013, 09:55:09 pm
http://www.themedicineway.org/index.html

Co-Founders Info:

Weeya Wakee Smith, born to the Cherokee Nation was raised by a traditional grandmother who raised her in traditional Cherokee beliefs. She walks in the “Medicinal” way assisting those who wish to learn, to heal and to walk a better path. Through her own adversities in life she has developed a keen understanding of tribulations and spiritual blockages that can occur in all humans. The Medicine Way teaches us that we are all here to help each other. The path is ours to make. Weeya is known for her commitment to assist and her strong commitment to a person’s confidentiality. She currently works with Native American women in her area and non-Native women teaching them the importance of womanhood, W.O.W. (Women of the Wheel). Being Native American, she has learned the traditional teachings of her family and her people. Weeya has a huge respect for all belief systems. If you are interested in learning more, having her assist in personal or group help, learning about our ancestors and loved ones who have passed on, participating in classes or just need to "work your own path", please feel free to contact her.
Contact Weeya:
weeya.wakee@gmail.com
920-213-4418 – Weeya’s Cell


https://www.facebook.com/weeyawakee.smith?fref=ts

Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: Epiphany on September 24, 2013, 03:05:03 am
Her husband has passed on, he is Oneida. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/greenbaypressgazette/obituary.aspx?n=jimmy-smith&pid=152428563&fhid=14324#fbLoggedOut (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/greenbaypressgazette/obituary.aspx?n=jimmy-smith&pid=152428563&fhid=14324#fbLoggedOut)

Her birth name is McCormick, earlier in this forum thread it is said that her first name is Michelle. Parents Allen McCormick and Juanette McBride.

Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: WINative on September 24, 2013, 05:09:07 am
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/cherokeenativeamericansclub/conversations/topics/1825


September 9, 2006
Michelle McCormick
Wrote
Weeyawakee
My family comes from N.C. originally but migrated to Alabama, Georgia, and Florida, where I was born. There was a settlement of Natives on Oneonta, Alabama where my family lived. They were a mixture of Natives.
Wado-Weeya Wakee
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: Epiphany on September 24, 2013, 03:40:38 pm
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/cherokeenativeamericansclub/conversations/topics/1825


September 9, 2006
Michelle McCormick
Wrote
Weeyawakee
My family comes from N.C. originally but migrated to Alabama, Georgia, and Florida, where I was born. There was a settlement of Natives on Oneonta, Alabama where my family lived. They were a mixture of Natives.
Wado-Weeya Wakee

This sounds like she is guessing, maybe based on some family stories of their believed heritage. Also doesn't sound like she had her actual genealogy records compiled and available.

Michelle did claim earlier in this thread that she and family are enrolled.

She markets herself as "born to the Cherokee Nation" and as one who teaches a "medicine way" - so we all certainly have the right to research her sales pitch.

Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: WINative on September 24, 2013, 09:31:38 pm
Yes there are alot of inconsistencies in her stories with the things she teaches and I hate to say it but whenever the Cherokee heritage comes into play it makes you more skeptical. Although I have known legitimate Cherokee people in my area that you can tell they are Native by looking at them, but they were Christian. I think all three were pastors.
No one should be offended by someone questioning their blood quantum and credentials when they are marketing a service or product as being Native American/American Indian.




Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: LittleOldMan on September 25, 2013, 10:45:26 am
I have lived within 13 miles of downtown Oneonta Al. for 66 years. Both my wife and daughter graduated from OHS. My Family has been here fo 200 years and while a lot of the old families have some Creek or Cherokee ancestory mixed in usually two to three generations ago to my knowledge there there has never been a settelment of Native Americans.  There are some who are active in heritage groupes who are high in BQ that I know.  I will ask and see if they know this person. Again neither my wife nor myself recognize the person.  I read every day bot post only when I feel I can contribute.   "LittleOldMan"
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: WINative on May 31, 2015, 03:28:58 am
I just saw this post from Weeya Smith on a mutual friends Facebook wall and thought I would share:

Weeya Smith: I am often asked by students how long I've been Indian or when did I know I was an Indian. This shows they think of us as a thing to be or a part in a play. I've never played the part of a white person. This brings about mixed feelings and emotions. I lost family members on the Trail of Tears. My family has stories regarding my ancestors who struggled and died. But I'm thankful to know my family history because from what I have gathered over the years most Caucasian folks do not know theirs
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: loudcrow on June 01, 2015, 12:05:43 pm

Juanette Mcbride
mentioned in the record of Mcbride and Juanette Mcbride
Name:    Juanette Mcbride
Event Type:    Marriage
Event Date:    01 Jul 1971
Event Place:    Escambia, Florida, United States
Gender:    Female
Race:    White
Spouse's Name:    Mcbride
Volume:    3072
Certificate Number:    038098
Citing this Record

"Florida Marriage Index, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VJF9-GHG : accessed 1 June 2015), Mcbride and Juanette Mcbride, 01 Jul 1971; from "Florida, Marriage Collection, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001," database and images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2006); citing Florida Department of Health, Jacksonville, Florida; and Jordan Dodd, Liahona Research.
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: loudcrow on June 01, 2015, 12:08:25 pm

Allen Lafayette Mccormick
mentioned in the record of Allen Lafayette Mccormick and UNKNOWN
Name:    Allen Lafayette Mccormick
Name Suffix:    Jr
Event Type:    Marriage
Event Date:    13 Jun 1975
Event Place:    Madison, Florida, United States
Gender:    Male
Race:    White
Volume:    3747
Certificate Number:    036452
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: loudcrow on June 01, 2015, 03:11:38 pm
I have researched the paternal line to the 1840s and each and every family member is listed as White.
I've gone as far back as Mahulda Johnson, daughter of John and Sarah Johnson. The family appears on the
1840 U.S. Census in Cherokee County, North Carolina and are listed as White. John was born about 1809 and
Sarah was born about 1810. The paternal line clearly is not Cherokee and did not walk on the Trail Where They Cried.

 Paternal family surnames include McCormick, Nowling, Johnson, Lindsey, Prescott, and Cain.

I'm having some problems with the maternal side (McBride) and am still working on it.
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: WINative on June 02, 2015, 03:41:18 am
Nice work I guess she should not have made those claims of being Cherokee, when her family line is all public... :P
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: Weeya Wakee Smith on July 29, 2015, 09:57:39 pm
 :(
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: Ingeborg on July 29, 2015, 10:40:18 pm
Ms Smith, will you please be kind enough to observe netiquette and stop spamming the thread re-posting the same text time and again? Thanks.

Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: Weeya Wakee Smith on July 29, 2015, 10:58:55 pm
My apologizes. I was trying to edit a post that I made years ago, December of 2010,  where I made an error, but someone brought this to my attention. I would like to correct the post and say that though I have family members who are enrolled, I am not enrolled. I tried to correct the post, but was unable, therefore I am posting it here.
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: Ingeborg on July 29, 2015, 11:13:26 pm
Trying hard to create extra work for the mods?   ::)

Same as we don't welcome spamming in these boards, we also prefer contributors not to drag their issue all over the forum opening up multiple threads. In plain words: one thread is enough. For original post *and* a correction, even though this comes five years later (someone's ignition timing seems a trifle behind, then).

Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: AClockworkWhite on July 30, 2015, 12:17:01 am
She has an interesting FB circle. Just saying.
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: AClockworkWhite on July 30, 2015, 12:19:05 am
"Be well" hahahahaa
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: WINative on August 05, 2015, 08:25:05 pm
I think now that she has acknowledged not being enrolled, that she should not be doing any of these type of things;Especially since she has no Native American culture or background. She should leave it to those that do if she has any morals or values.
Her being a descendant even, (which sounds doubtful) is still not enough these days to talk with authority and legitimacy about Natives.

http://www.themedicineway.org/bookings--info.html

Native American Presentations
These presentations are on the Southeast Woodland people, their past and how they lived. The presentation also includes stories. Weeya is dressed in authentic 18th Century clothing and has a table with items the audience can touch and explore. The presentation last an hour but up to two hours depending on audience participation. Weeya is open to questions and answers during the presentation.

Storytelling
Oral storytelling has existed with all people from the beginning of time. It is a way to communicate good behaviors, learning from  mistakes and how things came to be. Weeya is dressed in authentic 18th Century clothing and tells stories based off of silver pieces that adorn her clothing and her match coat. The storytelling can be done in 30 min. increments throughout the day or weekend. Weeya is open to question and answer sessions during & at the end of the storytelling.

Children's Art Camp/Classes with a Native or other Cultural Themes
Weeya is a certified Art teacher in the state of Wisconsin while holding a lifetime certification in art with the state of Louisiana. Weeya has been working professionally as a Artist for over 30 years and as an educator for 15 years. She can teach one hour classes or up to a week long session. The time limit is up to the client and what they are looking to achieve with the art class or camp. The class can hold any cultural theme or just be the basics of learning art techniques. Weeya can teach children, as well as, adults.
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: AClockworkWhite on August 05, 2015, 09:13:27 pm
I totally agree. She probably still sells herself as Native to keep those lucrative programs busy.
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: loudcrow on August 06, 2015, 12:14:49 am
Here's a video on Youtube I happened to run across. As of December 2014, she is still making claims of being a Cherokee Storyteller.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syXsDpXNvEY
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: loudcrow on August 06, 2015, 01:31:34 am
Here's a link to the 1850 Census Record for Mahulda Johnson, one of Michelle McCormick Smith's ancestors from
Cherokee County, North Carolina.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4YB-NMT




Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: AClockworkWhite on August 06, 2015, 02:36:03 am
Interesting racial ID, eh?
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: loudcrow on August 06, 2015, 02:45:37 am
Juanette McBride was the daughter of Horace B. McBride; Here's a link to his 1935 census record:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNKW-PB3

Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: WINative on August 07, 2015, 11:28:34 pm
I would encourage the moderators to put this in the Fraud section since self-admitted Non-Native but still made past claims of being Native and running programs as Native programs and collecting fees I'm sure. It will help protect the people of this area.
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: educatedindian on August 14, 2015, 02:01:25 am
The photos and screenshots this blog entry refers to are at the link.

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http://ancestorstealing.blogspot.com/2015/08/michelle-smith-aka-weeya-wakeeweeya.html

Michelle Smith aka Weeya Wakee/Weeya Smith 

First rule to this post, all information and content of this blog is PUBLIC information, including photographs that have been posted publicly by Michelle Smith aka Weeya, and genealogy information which is public record.

 As stated earlier, I generally do not post about Cherokee frauds. This is because I am not Cherokee, and there are many Cherokee people who deal with these kind of frauds who doing appropriation of their culture. But I was sent a screen shot of this woman's claims a while back.

[screenshot]

 I chuckled over this, because this woman is obviously trying to say her family is on the Dawes rolls, here are surnames, but gee, she will not give first names. Even though no first names are given, it still can be researched out. But, someone else beat me to it.

 On a discussion group, this was posted by various people regarding Michelle Smith:

 "http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/cherokeenativeamericansclub/conversations/topics/1825
 September 9, 2006
 Michelle McCormick
 Wrote
 Weeyawakee
 My family comes from N.C. originally but migrated to Alabama, Georgia, and Florida, where I was born. There was a settlement of Natives on Oneonta, Alabama where my family lived. They were a mixture of Natives.
 Wado-Weeya Wakee"

 So a genealogist begins to work on Michelle's claims:

 "I have researched the paternal line to the 1840s and each and every family member is listed as White.
 I've gone as far back as Mahulda Johnson, daughter of John and Sarah Johnson. The family appears on the
 1840 U.S. Census in Cherokee County, North Carolina and are listed as White. John was born about 1809 and
 Sarah was born about 1810. The paternal line clearly is not Cherokee and did not walk on the Trail Where They Cried.

  Paternal family surnames include McCormick, Nowling, Johnson, Lindsey, Prescott, and Cain."

 "Juanette McBride was the daughter of Horace B. McBride; Here's a link to his 1935 census record:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNKW-PB3"

  "Here's a link to the 1850 Census Record for Mahulda Johnson, one of Michelle McCormick Smith's ancestors from
 Cherokee County, North Carolina."

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4YB-NMT

 Of course there is a lot more on her family genealogy that shows she is not Cherokee, she is not Shawnee, and I doubt there is Penobscot, that she claims a "dash" to.

 This gets very interesting...

 Michelle posted this on July 29, 2015, and pay close attention to that date, because she was busy spamming the NAFPS message board system, and a moderator got after her, so she replied...

 "

 Logged
 


Offline Weeya Wakee Smith


•Posts: 3


Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith 

« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2015, 10:58:55 pm »


My apologizes. I was trying to edit a post that I made years ago, December of 2010,  where I made an error, but someone brought this to my attention. I would like to correct the post and say that though I have family members who are enrolled, I am not enrolled. I tried to correct the post, but was unable, therefore I am posting it here."

 It took her over four years to realize she made a error in stating she was enrolled, when in fact, she is not? And she did not claim just one enrollment, she claimed being enrolled in both the Eastern Band of Cherokee and the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. You cannot be duel enrolled with those tribes.

  So now comes the true reason for blogging about Weeya Wakee Michelle Smith, and her over four year change of her post....

 I have recently learned, group of eight people, was sent a letter dated July 28th, 2015 from a Barry Stern, attorney from West Bend, WI, and honestly, this would be sad if it were not so pathetic.

 First, this letter sent to eight people, but only one person is directly addressed... the letter is directed to one person, and at the end CC'd to seven others that got copies of the original, and these seven others are not mentioned anywhere else in the letter except the sentence"  "As you know, you (and the other individuals receiving copies of this letter)" the letter goes on to "Direct" people to "remove" all defamatory actions or statements published within 14 days from the writing of the letter.

 *Only a judge hearing this case can order someone to remove something they wrote from online*

 Of the eight people, two people who were CC'd do not live at the addresses listed, nor even in the state of which the letters were sent. One person who the letter was sent to, and accused of posting in Facebook groups about Weeya Michelle Smith is not a member of those groups, seven of the eight are not involved in a message board of which they were accused of writing about Michelle Smith, and of all eight, none has ever posted to her, or about her on the message board they are accused of doing.

 The letter gets better.

 Mr. Stern goes on to state "I have reviewed Weeya's ancestry and genealogy records with her. There is no question that Weeya is of Cherokee descent, both sides of her mother's side and on her father's side"

 Obviously. Mr. Stern has no legal authority to state if anyone is Cherokee! There are three Federally Recognized Cherokee tribes, two of those FEDERALLY recognized tribes, his client has claimed to be from. That is the Eastern Band of Cherokee, and the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. AND Only those tribes have the AUTHORITY to say who is, and who is NOT of their Nations.

Mr. Stern has no authority to order anyone to do anything! We are talking about PUBLIC records. HIS client has made PUBLIC statements which are FALSE and she is MISREPRESENTING herself to be something SHE IS NOT!

 One person who was sent the letter has never posted about Weeya Michelle Smith, but upon request of one of the tribal leaders, asked them to contact Weeya Michelle Smith, in private, about her claim to being Shawnee and having ancestors on the Dawes, as there are THREE Federally Recognized Shawnee tribes, and only one of those tribes uses the Dawes, because if her claims were true, she could enroll in that tribe! I was told that Weeya was contacted and she replied, in a very rude and condescending manor. This persons ONLY contact with Weeya Michelle Smith, in a private message which is not public... Mr. Stern has threatened this person with defamation suit, but the person he made the threat to never said a word in public, and private is not defamation, because it must be published to be defamation.

 So, to set this record straight, in order to continue with her appropriation of others cultures,  Michelle Smith went and got a attorney, who he wants to try to bully people into not saying anything to nor about Michelle.

[photo]

 Photo above is a photograph that Weeya Michelle Smith published in a public setting so therefore no copyright is involved I have no idea who the guy is that is with her. Michelle claims she dresses "Pre European contact" Her attorney claims "she gives historically accurate presentations about the Southeast Woodland people, dressed in historically correct attire"   see the red paint across Michelle's face? Cherokee women do not paint their faces. Around her neck she wears clam shells, the Cherokee women do not wear clam shells, Native people did not have cloth before European contact.

 Michelle has been busy deleting comments she has made, deleting and changing things on her websites, but there are some really savvy people who have gotten screen shots of the things she has written, and the claims she has made long before she had Mr. Stern send out the letters.

 I think about Barry Stern and his client Weeya Michelle Smith, and I have to wonder, do they know the tribes will back their tribe members on these appropriation and false representation issues?  Do they think that the few they have tried to silence will not be silent? They have FREEDOM of SPEECH, and if they can PROVE Weeya Michelle Smith is MISREPRESENTING HERSELF with documents from the US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT on HER family, then, where will Weeya Michelle Smith and her attorney stand in court? Will they be charged with false prosecution? Counter suits will be filed.

 Perhaps Mr. Stern should consider sending out some apology letters to the people he has made false accusations to.  The Wisconsin BAR Code of Ethics does have a issue of misrepresentation of facts to non clients. It only takes one person, of the many who got this letter, to file a complaint.

 Mr. Stern, you want this column removed? Think about that apology.

 In ending, I will say, Michelle is a beautiful woman, and sadly, from what I have seen from her attitude to others who question her, is not pretty. Michelle, keep the red paint off your face, it is insulting to Cherokee women.

 One other ending note... What is Mr. Stern going to do if some of these people who he sent letters to, or those who are posting, live on reservations? Did he consider that for one second? How much money does his client have to take this case to a Indian reservation, which would be heard in a tribal court. How far can this simple little issue be pushed? 

Posted Yesterday by Sam
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: Keely on August 15, 2015, 07:42:19 am
I seen a new post today that outlines the accusations, screen captures were used to support the people against Weeya. I would post a link but don't know how from my iPad.
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: Keely on August 15, 2015, 08:08:24 am
[Added the text of the link. Photos and screen saves at link. Sam's blog has definitive proof of her charging for ceremony. Moved to Frauds.-Al.]

I think I got the link to second story
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http://ancestorstealing.blogspot.com/2015/08/michelle-mccormick-smith-aka-weeya.html

I am amused by this attorney that Michelle Smith aka Weeya Smith has hired to write her letters. Yes, I was sent a copy of the letter in a PDF file. I would like to address a few things this attorney, Barry Stern of West Bend, WI. had addressed in this group letter.

 The letter states people are spreading "false and defamatory statements" about Michelle Weeya Smith. Some of these statements are:

"She lies about her Cherokee ancestry"   But, she has never proven her Cherokee ancestry, does this attorney not know this would be requested in any court action? Does he not realize the defendants would request this information from his client during interrogatories? The tribes Michelle has claimed would produce expert, certified, genealogist to produce federal records on Michelle's family showing their history, and their race?

 What does Michelle Smith aka Weeya Smith claim?

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 Did I read that right? She "can't help" herself? She has made some very bold claims to who her ancestors are. These claims are very simple to prove, or disprove.

 The name "Moytoy" is a interesting name. It is used a lot with other names, generally as Michelle has done here, she used it with Dragging Canoe. Now, I am not a expert in Cherokee genealogy, but I do know quite a few of them, and all agree, there was never a Cherokee named Moytoy. Where this myth began, no one seems to know, but there has never been any recorded Cherokee named Moytoy, specifically one associated with Dragging Canoe.

 I highly doubt that Michelle Smith, aka Weeya knows that a few of these families she claims are very well documented. Notice, she claims in her post "I love having my family documented". Interesting, don't you think?

 The attorney states that people are falsely claiming that Michelle Smith aka Weeya Smith charges schools for her Cherokee presentations. I do not know anything about that, but if she is not Cherokee she should not be falsely teaching children that she is Cherokee. But, lets look at what she had on her website:

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 Oh, snap! Second paragraph she states she charges 350.00 plus gas and lodging! Third paragraph she states "Fee's for Children's Art Camp/Classes" vary! Oh she did not forget the charge for gas and lodging on that one either. But, give the attorney some credit, he did say "schools" I guess one would have to admit a "mistake" if they "accidentally" included schools in her prices... just like Michelle Smith "accidentally" said she was enrolled in 2010.

 The attorney states that Michelle Smith, aka Weeya Smith, has been falsely accused of selling her item as Indian made. Hummm, let's see, so far she presents herself as a Cherokee, claims her family line, she does living living history as a "Cherokee" gives Native art classes, and she does sell some of her art, but she does not want anyone to think it is Cherokee made? I can say, I for one am glad this matter is all cleared up, specially since Michelle admits her work is not Cherokee or Indian made via her attorney, Barry Stern. Maybe when she is selling her stuff, presenting it, or teaching it, she should not dress up and say she is dressed as a Cherokee woman as well?

 I fully confess, I am a huge fan of the Indian Arts and Crafts Act and will support the cause from people who want to break that law. I cheer on IACA Board, for their job is thankless, and I say, Thank You to the workers who do the job!

 Those who are receiving the letter from attorney Barry Stern are to stop saying Michelle Smith, aka Weeya Smith, claims to be enrolled in the Cherokee Nation, and the Eastern Band of Cherokee.

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 The above posting was made by Michelle Smith, aka Weeya Smith, this was posted on powwows.com in her bio section where she states under "Tribal Affiliation" she wrote "Eastern Band Cherokee"

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 And right there, at the Kalamazoo Living History Show, she is listed "Weeya Wakee Smith of the Cherokee Nation"  Could the Kalamazoo have "accidentally" listed Michelle as Cherokee Nation? Nawwwww, I am sure that is what she told them.

 So let us get up to date on this, Michelle Smith, aka Weeya Smith, complains to her attorney that people are "falsely accusing her of claiming to be a member of the Eastern Cherokee and the Cherokee Nation" and she is being "defamed" by such statements? Really? She is only being "defamed" because she got called out on her lie! You cannot be enrolled both Eastern Cherokee and Cherokee Nation, they are two different tribes, and Michelle knows it! She just did not know you could not be enrolled in both tribes. And that is not the only mistake she has made!

 The letter also accuses the people it was sent to, of accusing poor little Michelle Weeya Smith of false accusations of hacking websites to send people nasty emails. What could poor little Michelle have ever said to have that said about her? Shall we look?

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 Now I do not know if people have accused Michelle of hacking their accounts, or sending nasty emails, but,if you read her own posts, she really sets herself up for this kind of information to get out there.

 Cherokee women do not dress like this:

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 Cherokee women do not wear clam shells like this:

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 Cherokee women DO NOT paint their face, nor a mask of red across their eyes. This is not a example of a history correct Cherokee woman, it is not a example of the Cherokee women at all! Yet, people are gullible into believing her, she is hired to do things and represent Cherokee people, and she is OFFENDED that the Cherokee people do not appreciate and are insulted at what she is doing?

 Her attorney and Weeya Michelle Smith are taking offense to others calling this woman a "FRAUD" but hey, if that shoe fits, put it on and lace it up!

 For whatever my opinion is worth, if this Michelle Smith and her attorney filed any action in court, when the defendants 1) counter filed and the case went 2) interrogatories and 3) evidence produced, there would need to be some serious considerations done on the part of Mz. Smith and her attorney,

 Be careful of what you ask for Michelle,  you are leaving footprints all over the place.

 To Barry Stern, you really should not advise clients to change their posts, no matter the reason, the posts you told your client to correct, (after the fact) is possibly assisting in a fraudulent act.   

Posted Yesterday by Sam
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: loudcrow on August 15, 2015, 12:39:22 pm
Her mother was  Juanette McBride, the daughter of Horace B. McBride. Horace was the son of Thomas A. and Bama
(maiden name unknown) McBride.

Bama Mcbride
United States Census, 1940
Name    Bama Mcbride
Event Type    Census
Event Date    1940
Event Place    Election Precinct 2, Santa Rosa, Florida, United States
Gender    Female
Age    63
Marital Status    Married
Race (Original)    White
Race    White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)    Wife
Relationship to Head of Household    Wife
Birthplace    Alabama
Birth Year (Estimated)    1877
Last Place of Residence    Same Place
Household
   
Role
   
Gender
   
Age
   
Birthplace
T A Mcbride    Head    M    67    Alabama
Bama Mcbride    Wife    F    63    Alabama
Owald Mcbride    Son    M    18    Florida
Orbia Mcbride    Son    M    20    Alabama
Vera Mae Mcbride    Wife    F    17    Florida
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1940," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VTCR-7WX : accessed 15 August 2015), Bama Mcbride in household of T A Mcbride, Election Precinct 2, Santa Rosa, Florida, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 57-3, sheet 29A, family 251, NARA digital publication T627 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2012), roll 616.


Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: loudcrow on August 15, 2015, 02:00:19 pm
According to the 1880 U.S. Census, there were 5 females whose first name was Bama who were
born in Alabama in 1877:

Bama A. Thomas
Bama Gregory
Bama King
Bama Knight
Bama Craig

The race of these individuals on the census record is either Black or White.
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: loudcrow on August 15, 2015, 03:01:02 pm
An earlier post shows her referring to a J. Lindsey on the Dawes Rolls as being her family.

She is descended from John Larkin  Lindsey who was born on August 25, 1825 in Alabama to John and Susan Lindsey. He married Sarah Rebecca Prescott who was born on March 16, 1834 in Coffee, Alabama to William Daniel Prescott and Harriet Elizabeth Richbourg.

John Lindsey was born in 1798 in South Carolina. His wife, Susannah Maxey was born
in 1802 in North Carolina. She was the daughter of Jeremiah and Mary Allen Maxey who was born
about 1780 in Virginia. This family is well-documented (photos included!) and can easily be found by
searching for John Larkin Lindsey.



Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: loudcrow on August 15, 2015, 03:23:26 pm
Here's a great video from the Cherokee Nation about pre-contact clothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6du8wTWFOg
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: WINative on January 16, 2017, 07:53:23 pm
Unfortunately she is being advertised in the Oneida tribal paper as leading a smudging workshop during their Midwinter gatherings at a privately owned store near the Oneida reservation in Wisconsin.I also noticed another well-known fraud there also, Dennis " Rocky" King.

https://www.facebook.com/TurtleIslandGifts/
Title: Re: The Medicine Way; Weeya Wakee Smith
Post by: Piff on January 16, 2017, 09:20:16 pm
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Myself, my children and my family are tribally enrolled with the Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama, a state recognized tribe.

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Being enrolled in a state recognized tribe guarantees my work as "Native American Made".  All my work is legally Native American made or Indian made and covered under the federal law - The Indian Arts & Crafts Act of 1990.

http://www.weeyasmith.com/about.html

The Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama, Inc.  http://echotacherokeetribe.homestead.com/about.html

Echota Cherokee Tribe of Alabama, Inc
Formation Date    2-19-1993
http://arc-sos.state.al.us/cgi/corpdetail.mbr/detail?corp=075146&page=name&file=&type=ALL&status=ALL&place=ALL&city=

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Recognition by an American state government is not the same as recognition on the federal level, or recognition by continually existing Indian tribes.

The Cherokee Nation and Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians include the Echota on their list of "fraudulent groups."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echota_Cherokee_Tribe_of_Alabama