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Title: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: educatedindian on September 19, 2019, 02:35:30 am
No ties to any other group with Turtle Island in their name, AFAIK.

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https://www.metisnews.com/aboriginal-news/new-pan-indian-nation-allowing-1-dna-causes-stir-on-social-media?fbclid=IwAR3zxQX2kjxIrT9oeps81CSVV1zSV9sj7abEEqi2RU5x6mCdargu2Mi5aR0
A new group calling itself the "The Turtle Island Tribal Nation" (Website Here) is causing a stir by promoting itself as a sort of all-encompassing tribe that will include anyone with a drop of indigenous DNA into their ranks.

To register for tribal membership in this new "nation" you must meet a 1% requirement.  They state that: [a registrant must have] "...1% of Turtle Island Indigenous Blood found within your DNA will likewise be found in the DNA of every cell of your body and therefore you are in-partitionable and fully indigenous and joint heir to Turtle Island." 

As a requirement, new members are supposed to complete basic/beginner language, culture and traditions training from a Tribal Elder within the first 2 years of acceptance, although it is not certain what tribe or who such elders might be.

Leadership of this new nation include a man named "Mide Ogichidaa Winini" who claims to be Grand Chief of an unknown "Peace Pipe, Friendship and Alliance Treaty", Biizhik Gigi Ahki, a supposed "Traditional Hereditary Chief of the Crane Clan", Tom Dostou, who is the "Sub-Chief of Grand Chief William Commanda", and Nenookaasikwe Shairl Acquin, who is designated as their "Traditional Chief of the Metis Peoples", among other leaders who are self-appointed to lifetime positions.
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Mide Ogichidaa Winini" who claims to be Grand Chief of an unknown "Peace Pipe, Friendship and Alliance Treaty"

The group's membership cards claim to provide the ability of a member to carry eagle feathers, a right that is only afforded to members of Federally recognized Indian Tribes - potentially setting up people who join and acquire such feathers to be subject to federal criminal charges.

Comments- Douglas Lloyd Buchholz9/9/2019 01:19:52 pm
May 10, 2003
Company Name: THE NATIVE AMERICAN CHURCH OF THE ANISHNABE OF MASSACHUSETTS
File Number: 000842009
Filing State: Massachusetts (MA)
Filing Status: Unknown
Filing Date: May 10, 2003
Company Age: 12 Years, 1 Month
Registered Agent: Lauren Silverbird
96 Newport St. Fall River, MA 02720
Principal Address: 96 Newport Street Fall River, MA 02720
Report Due Date: December 31, 2012
Business Category: Churches
COLEEN FLYNN Director
96 Newport St Fall River, MA 02720
IRENE COREY Clerk
96 Newport St. Fall River, MA 02720
LAUREN K SILVERBIRD Treasurer
42503 Westech Rd. Shawnee, OK 74804
LAUREN SILVERBIRD Director
42503 Westech Rd Shawnee, OK 74804
THOMAS DOSTOU Director
1271 Evergreen Rd Redway, CA 95560

The man makes up nonprofits because it is profitable.

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https://www.turtleislandtribalnation.org/our-people?fbclid=IwAR0N7nVhBDDA_NReU-uUqmwU5btcNByj0RhaOv3fpS8ZKVRC-rDGrujfe2E
The Turtle Island Tribal Nation
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Grand War Chief of Turtle Island
Eastern Grand Chief of Turtle Island
Mide Ogichidaa Winini

Pres NAC Turtle Island
Bishik Gigi Ahki
Hereditary Headman Anishnaabe

Grand War Chief Turtle Island
Tom Dostou
Sub Chief Wm Commanda
Abenaki Peoples

Eastern Grand Chief Turtle Island
Jim Davis
Sub Chief Wm Commanda
Lenape Delaware Munsee

Western Grand Chief Turtle Island
Randa Larue
Sub Chief Wm Commanda
Yahi Yahi Peoples Band

Southern Grand Chief Turtle Island
Aztecas Mashikas
Aztec Grand Chief
Aztec Nation, Mexico

Northern Grand Chief Turtle Island
Northern Cree
Grand Chief
Eskowskewyak Tribes
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Central Grand Chief Turtle Island
Nenookaasikwe
Shairl Acquin
Metis Chief
(St. Joseph Island Metis)
Secretary of Treasury Jonathan Sanchez
Chief of Staff to the President of the Native American Church of Turtle Island
(Tribal Affiliation: Anishinaabe)
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Ambassador Abuela Colibri
(Tribal Affiliation: Nauatl Tribal Nation)
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Wisdom Council Elder to the Grand Medicine Society Abuelo Antonio
(Tribal Affiliation: Nauatl Tribal Nation)
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: Piff on September 19, 2019, 06:15:03 pm
 "Mide Ogichidaa Winini" is Madison Moore's brother.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=5293.msg45808#msg45808
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: Piff on September 19, 2019, 06:23:34 pm
 "Mide Ogichidaa Winini" is David Taylor aka David Taylor-Barker.

Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: Piff on September 19, 2019, 06:30:51 pm
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**Update**
We are signing treaties with Mexican and Central American Chiefs and groups, and will be adding more Judges to the Indigenous Criminal Tribunal before we make the very public release this weekend.

https://www.facebook.com/Mideaogichidaa/posts/220404378928314
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: Piff on September 19, 2019, 10:03:19 pm
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Grand War Chief Turtle Island
Tom Dostou
Sub Chief Wm Commanda
Abenaki Peoples

Discussion of Tom Dostou through out here: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=782.msg3991#msg3991
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: educatedindian on September 20, 2019, 02:05:25 am
Shairl Acquin claiming to be Metis chief.
http://ufind.name/Bruce+Oquinn
"Lives in Sault Sainte Marie, Ontario
Studied Law & Justice at Laurentian University, Sudbury, Ontario '08
Advocate at Law & Justice"

Photos have to be seen to believe. Like Betty Davis when she was middle aged but much more makeup and sometimes less clothing.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJyFnWGQ2IcXoKiCkdTElJQ
https://vimeo.com/user76457764
https://ar.pinterest.com/shairlacquin/
https://soundcloud.com/shairl-acquin

At one point she had Mohamed attached as her last name.
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:q_W3rys24GUJ:https://www.idolbin.com/fprofile/100001568259302+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

There are several going by Abuela Colibri (Hummingbird) online. One just does knitting videos. This one seems most likely to me, does shamanic retreats and uses last name of Devi which is Hindi for goddess. Though TITN list her as Nahua from Mexico, she is Colombian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01fI9Hxj7f4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01fI9Hxj7f4
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.alternativasconzentido.com/el-consejo-de-abuelas-de-colombia/&prev=search
"Grandma Hummingbird Devi
Bogota - Cundinamarca
Sacred songs, feminine and mixed circles."
IOW, peddles to non Natives in the predominantly non Native capital, the only non Native woman in that group.

Randa Larue claims to be Yahi Peoples Band. The Yahi were made extinct by California Indian Genocide. The best known of them and the last to die was the famous Ishi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishi

No idea why Mexica is weirdly spelled as Mashika.
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: Sparks on September 20, 2019, 08:50:03 pm
Photos have to be seen to believe. Like Betty Davis when she was middle aged but much more makeup and sometimes less clothing.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJyFnWGQ2IcXoKiCkdTElJQ
https://vimeo.com/user76457764

Nenookaasikwe Shairl Acquin at YouTube and Shairl Acquin at Vimeo. No videos both places.

Someone covering their tracks?
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: Piff on September 30, 2019, 02:44:47 am
Google translation from German to English:

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Thursday, 26.09.2019, 15.00 (for pupils); 19.30 (for all)

Anishinaabe - The uncertain future of one of the largest surviving Native American peoples in North America

Lecture by David Taylor with discussion ( Presentation language: English)

David Taylor - tribally named Mide Ogichidaa Winini - is "Head of the Adik Caribou Clan and War Chief of the Anishinaabe", an area that once extended around the great lakes of North America. The peaceful co-existence and harmony with nature and surrounding tribes was brought to a sudden halt by the arrival of whites in North America. Through planned and targeted genocide attempts were made to drive the Anishinaabe out of their territory and turn them into lawless and landless subhumans. What very few people know, however, is that this injustice is still happening today.

   
David Taylor tells the nation's culture and history in an interactive presentation in English, and also reports on the incredible suffering that has befallen his people and continues to this day. For example, members of his tribe are specifically deprived of their rights and expropriated or their children are abducted and educated in orphanages in order to alienate them culturally. Since such content is not welcome in Trump's America, David Taylor now lives in Germany and tells you unbelievable beautiful and sad stories.

During the lecture and afterwards you can ask questions in English and in German.

Organizer: David Taylor, Integration Council of Kempten and Haus International

Free entry

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.hausinternational.de/&prev=search

Original can be found on this event page http://www.hausinternational.de/

I wonder if David Taylor is headed towards some sort of sovereign citizen direction. I've uploaded here his "Oath of Fidelity of the Turtle Island Tribal Nation" https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=222634945371924&set=a.169848093983943&type=3&theater

As for why he is actually in Germany, I believe that he is in the military.
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: Sparks on October 01, 2019, 01:33:54 am
Quote from: https://www.facebook.com/Mideaogichidaa/posts/220404378928314
**Update**
We are signing treaties with Mexican and Central American Chiefs and groups, and will be adding more Judges to the Indigenous Criminal Tribunal before we make the very public release this weekend.
Quote from: https://www.facebook.com/Mideaogichidaa/posts/220404378928314
This page isn't available
The link you followed may be broken, or the page may have been removed.

"Mide Ogichidaa Winini" is Madison Moore's brother.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=5293.0 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=5293.0).

"Mide Ogichidaa Winini" is David Taylor aka David Taylor-Barker.

Is "Mide Ogichidaa Winini" AKA David Taylor AKA David Taylor-Barker playing the same endless hide-and-seek game that his sister has played for years now?

His Facebook Profile is very active: https://www.facebook.com/Mideaogichidaa

Quote from: https://www.facebook.com/Mideaogichidaa
Mide Ogichidaa Winini
(Kind Warrior Man)

Intro
David Taylor-Barker in English and Mide Ogichidaa Winini in Ojibwe. Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa

The "Indigenous Criminal Tribunal" mentioned in the quote is described on his Facebook Page:

Quote from: https://www.facebook.com/OjibweMide/posts/741072213012946
Mide Ogichidaa Winini updated their status. 16 September at 17:03

Indigenous Criminal Tribunal has been Enacted, media release coming shortly, this is just sneak peak.

Their courts are not for us, have never served us, we must hold them accountable by first law under the jurisdiction of Creator's Law with the unity of International Law under the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.

We are the generation to speak for amends and it starts with addressing the Truth.

About his Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/OjibweMide/

Quote from: https://www.facebook.com/pg/OjibweMide/about/
About
CONTACT DETAILS
m.me/OjibweMide
memberships@turtleislandtribalnation.org
http://www.TurtleIslandTribalNation.org

MORE INFO
About
Grand Chief of the Peace Pipe, Friendship and Alliance Treaty between the Traditional Headman and Chiefs of the Abenaki, Lenape-Delaware (Munsee), Yana-Yahi, Cree, Azteca, Anishinaabe Crane Clan, Anishinaabe Hoof Clan, and Metis Peoples of Ontario.

Public figure
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: Sparks on October 01, 2019, 02:35:48 am
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Grand War Chief Turtle Island
Tom Dostou
Sub Chief Wm Commanda
Abenaki Peoples

Discussion of Tom Dostou through out here: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=782.0 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=782.0)…

Tom Dostou is on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tom.dostou

At this link, a week ago, he wrote to Mide Ogichidaa Winini: "Good morning Grandson!".

https://www.facebook.com/OjibweMide/videos/537188540350433/?comment_id=537213123681308
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: Sparks on November 02, 2019, 05:09:34 pm
https://www.metisnews.com/aboriginal-news/new-pan-indian-nation-allowing-1-dna-causes-stir-on-social-media

Discussion of Tom Dostou through out here: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=782.0 …

That thread has been updated today with reference to the same article at https://www.metisnews.com/ (https://www.metisnews.com/).
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: educatedindian on November 05, 2019, 03:28:01 pm
TITN website is down. Barker is still active on FB. But I don't see any more mentions of TITN, though he does still post from some of the TITN alleged elders. Larue who claims to be an elder of an extinct people actually claims Yahi was a great great uncle.

This is what Barker claims in an email. ILN and NAIN are well known legit historically important activist groups. But neither have anything to do with TITN except Barker seems to want to use them as models.

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My mentally disabled twin has nothing to do with the Turtle Island Tribal Nation and I didnt make this up, it was founded back in 1940s by the Indian League of Nations founded in 1920. Do a little research. They were called the North American Indian Nation.

Second, there are no fees. We initially allowed the Native American Church of Turtle Island on our council as they had the ability to assist in ID cards.

However we discovered within the first week everyone we sent info for an ID card they were trying to get them to pay $100 to enroll in their church. And what made it more disconcerting is they wanted payment into their personal paypal or bank account.

Their President David Gaskin is affiliated with Nathan Wright and they are both Sault Ste Marie Tribe members and are 100% not affiliated with us.

We have not received a penny. Neither have I!

Regarding the Metis Nation and their News article on us you posted, You are smart enough to realize that the Metis Nation allows you to be a member of their nation if you have a single native in your family history back to 1800.

Which is LESS than 1% by DNA or Quantum!

Yet, if you have a native on the Dawes rolls of 1880-1900, and not another native in your line until present you would be 1/128 quantum or 1% Native.

Yet! When we state the exact same!!! We are attacked, even my Metis Nation News!
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: verity on July 23, 2021, 01:36:54 am
There are warnings on Facebook concerning  David Taylor Barker aka Mide Ogichidaa Winini. These accusations are alleged, we don't have proof.

One woman says she knows of about a dozen other women who have had this experience. Alleged is that he "preys on non-status native women". That he lures women into helping him with various projects and that contact quickly progresses to overly unwanted sexual advances.
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: educatedindian on May 04, 2022, 02:30:23 pm
David Taylor-Barker sent this email. The law firm he claims to have specializes in corporate law, finance, banking, and antitrust suits. No mention of handling libel or even non corporate clients.

First his email, then my response.

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I have retained Porter, Wright, Morris and Arthur.

This is the initial request that will be followed by legal notification.

Despite being informed I am actually an Indian, as well as with
documentation from the Great Plains Director of the BIA, you have
allowed your thread to contain false information about me. Which due to
your site name causes confusion with people doing background checks.

You additionally inspired, with false information, multiple
investigations by the FBI which cleared me in full,
the undue harassment you are liable for.

Additionally, people have contacted speaking events and employers due to
your false thread causing undue harassment and hardship.

You are liable. Your false site played a part in my divorce and caused
undue hardship that was overcame, but not without much stress.

Additionally, you defamed my twin sister who is transgender and despite
a genealogist posting she is in fact native, you kept it up, causing
undue hardship in her personal life with harassment.

I am now a Chief in my traditional tribe and the administrator on 10
Facebook groups with over 500,000 members.

Not only am I sueing you for damages but I will make this public this
weekend.

Provide your point of contact.

Regards
David Taylor-Barker
Midegah (Mide Ogichidaa Winini

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No "ownership." We are not a business. We are a forum for over 3,000 activists from dozens of tribes and supporters worldwide.

Never heard a thing about you from the BIA or FBI.

Never heard a thing about your divorce before this.

I see that you are sending this email from the "Little Shell Pembina Nation" website of Pembinachippewa.org, the militia and sovereign citizen group. Have you now joined them?

I see also that your claimed law firm specializes in banking and antitrust law, and typically only represents corporations.

We always seek more information and would be glad to post any statement of yours to clear these matters up.

We'll post this email of yours. Would you like to make clear your relationship with militias and sovereign citizens?
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: educatedindian on May 04, 2022, 02:52:56 pm
These are the so called Pembinas, a militia group mentioned many times before.

 Little Shell Pembina Band
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=789.0

Little Shell Pembina (was One of the Most Dangerous Fraud Groups)
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=185.0

Little Shell Pembina Band & Sovereign Citizens Movement
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2999.0

Two men plead guilty to selling Tribal Memberships
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1707.0

Self-proclaimed court can't enforce rulings
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=245.0

HealthFreedom.Info and Sacred Tree Society
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3283.0

Allen Becker AKA Allan Aslan Heart AKA White Eagle Soaring
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2228.0

Dale Norton & Wampanoag Tribe of Greyhead Wolf Band, Order of White Light
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1490.0
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: educatedindian on May 05, 2022, 02:44:43 pm
This might be a record, four angry delusional emails within minutes of each other. First four are his, last response is mine. The typos are his. He even is claiming injury from posting his side of the story.

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You are incorrect. The Delormes were cleared by the FBI and that other
group were people from Florida not related. The ADL never updated their
site and that is being addressed as well.

In case you werent aware I am a lineal to Joseph Montriel and Red Bear,
signers of the 1863 Treaty at Old Crossing and in February of 2014 was
requested by Judge Thomas F. Hogan in DC Court to address the issue, and
I did. Ie I am actually an indian and you are a hate group. [Says the man working with white supremacists.-Al]

I will be contacting you via lawyer next.
My family is enrolled at Turtle Mountain and Red Lake and with the
Treaty Tribe who in 1964/65 won original title and occupancy in the US
Court of Claims as the Little Shell Band of North Dakota.

Get a lawyer, you will need it as I am suing for damages.

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Let me rephrase,
People use your site thinking what is posted is valid. When it is
invalid you do not update your site.

The Delormes are grandchildren of Karyence Delorme who was a Grand
Councilman of Chief Little Shell III, half their family is enrolled at
Turtle Mountain and Half their family is with the Treaty Tribe.

Karyence Delorme and Little Shell III were first cousins, both going
back to Little Shell I and his brothet Joseph Little Thunder Gourneau.

So I am not sure what you need clarified, I am with real indians with
real indian cards and you are a hate group spreading lies about people
and you dont care when you are wrong.

You know nothing about anything factual related to our issuez.

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Since you do not seem to be aware,
Posting emails is against the law. The e-mail contains intellectual
property and it must not be published without asking permission.

You prove, you do not know the law, or care if whom you harm are actual
indians or not.

I have my membership record from the BIA, my fathers, my grandparents
and my pedigree from the BIA.

Porter Wright is helping me find a firm in your state, as they prior
assisted us with the Federal Hearing in DC regarding the Pembina
Judgment Settlement.

I have screenshots of what you just posted and I inform you that you are
going to have to deal with this in court.

Regards.

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See attached. [Screenshot of German site attached.]
You also violated GDPR and European law, which I am
protected by as I am currently in Germany caring for my sons (split
custody).
Learn the law.
We have identified a firm in your filed city.

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[This is me responding.]

Still waiting to hear if you claim to be part of the Pembina militia and sovereign citizens group or not.

We get threats to sue every month or so. Hasn't happened yet. This is because truth is an absolute defense to libel.

For example, I challenge you to say where we have claimed you are or are not NDN.

It's irrelevant. What we have shown repeatedly is that the Pembinas are a dangerous bunch of terrorists, the Delormes letting themselves be used by white supremacists and an Indonesian who tried to carry out a coup.

And that you are not a "chief." You just play one on the internet.

But I do thank you for admitting that your claim of having a law firm representing you was a lie.

I'm sure you will have as much "success" as other sovereign nuts.
Title: Re: Turtle Island Tribal Nation
Post by: educatedindian on May 05, 2022, 07:58:36 pm
TITN seems to be pretty much dead. There's not even an archive of the old site, which lasted only a few months. If it weren't for Barker joining up with the Pembinas, there'd be little concern about that group.

Barker also says he's descended from Pocahontas. Really. Bolding is mine.

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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/special-indigenous-peoples-month-series-part-3/id1509110420?i=1000543701334
Chief Midegah Mide Ogichidaa Winini is a Hereditary Chief of the Adik Songab Doodem (clan) of the Ojibway of the Anishinaabeg people. Midegah is also a direct lineal descendant of Chief Miscomukquoh, Sub Chief Joseph Montriel, and Red Lake Principle Chief Old Chief Medweganoonind, all signers of the 1863 and 1864 Old Crossing Treaties. All 3 of Chief Red Bears sisters are Chief Midegah's grandmothers (Techomegood Margaret Bottineau wife of Charles Bottineau; Utinawasis Margaret Grant wife of Cuthbert Grant; and Machequayaince Margaret Bottineau wife of Chief Pewanakum a signatory on the 1789 Treaty at Fort Harmar). Utinawasis in Cree means Sky Child; Techomegood in Assiniboine means Clear Sky Woman; Machequayaince in Chippewa means Clear Sky Woman.

Chief Midegah is also a lineal descendant of Metis Chiefs Joseph Perronteau, Jean Baptiste Paul Charette, and Francois Desjarlais "Chief Peaysis"; additionally through his mother, Chief Midegah is one of 100,000 lineal descendants of famed Indian Pocahontas or Amonute Matoaka. Midegah's family maintains the grave location of Chief Little Shell I who died in 1813. Midegah also descends from Chief Tabashaw the oldest son of Chief Little Shell I.

Websites:
www.PembinaChippewa.org [the militia]
www.ECIS.org

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There's at least one person disputing Barker's claim of descent.

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https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Author/Alonzo-Quixana-109681463711704/
Alonzo Quixana
April 21 at 9:11 PM ·
WARNING!
PUBLIC NOTICE OF FRAUD!

A man under the various guises of David Taylor, David Taylor Barker, Mide Ogichidaa Winini, Midegah Ogichidaa ~
and possibly others has been perpetuating an active fraud against the Indigenous Peoples throughout Canada & the United States by falsely claiming historical Tribal right of succession and leadership.

To assist him in bolstering these fraudulent claims he is using stolen property in the form of STOLEN UNPUBLISHED manuscript proofs from a project that was dropped when his scheme was discovered in 2019.

DO NOT BE DECEIVED.
When proof of actual authentic Anishinaabe leadership was established in 2020, the original manuscripts were purged, corrected and finally published for distribution.
THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS IMPOSTOR.