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Offline verity

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Re: Margaret Noodin Ojibwe Professor
« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2021, 03:03:12 pm »
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I genuinely kept hoping to find something that would substantiate her various claims of Ojibwe ancestry. I still hope to find something that will change how things look right now. There are no winners in this situation or situations like it.

This pretty much describes my attitude in this case too. At least from what I see online, her language work looks to be respected, I'd rather that she not be a fraud.

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Re: Margaret Noodin — Ojibwe Professor [AKA Margaret Noori]
« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2021, 03:08:04 pm »
It appears that Margaret and “Ssenier” have both served as officers of the Association for the Study of American Indian Literatures (ASAIL).

ASAIL Officer List:
https://sites.uwm.edu/asail/about/officers/

I found her original surname (I hope) together with a different spelling of her first name, too:

Margaret A. Noodin (born Margeret Noori, 1965) is an American poet and Anishinaabemowin language teacher. She is a Professor of English and American Indian Studies at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee.

I wonder if Margeret is a misspelling for Margaret? I find several publications both by Margaret Noodin and Margaret Noori, but none by Margeret Noori. Several websites repeat the wording I quoted from Wikipedia, it might be a misspelling, with one single source being quoted again and again. (Then again, she might have changed from Margeret to Margaret long before she changed her last name.)

Seems I didn't find her original surname, after all. The phrase "(born Margeret Noori", 1965)" was removed 3 days later:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Margaret_Noodin&action=history
"26 April 2021? Ssenier talk contribs?  …  (removed inaccurate and unsourced birth name)".

The person who removed the phrase: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ssenier
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Re: Margaret Noodin — Ojibwe Professor [AKA Margaret Noori]
« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2021, 04:05:42 pm »
It appears that Margaret and “Ssenier” have both served as officers of the Association for the Study of American Indian Literatures (ASAIL).

ASAIL Officer List: https://sites.uwm.edu/asail/about/officers/

Yes, 2 entries for Margaret Noori, 5 entries for Margaret Noodin.

7 entries for Siobhan Senier, University of New Hampshire. (https://cola.unh.edu/person/siobhan-senier)
So she is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ssenier (I have this confirmed from other sources, too.)

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Re: Margaret Noodin Ojibwe Professor
« Reply #63 on: June 10, 2021, 09:32:20 pm »
Is there any evidence Margaret Noodin knew or taught the Ojibwe Language before moving to Ann Arbor, Michigan and working with Irving "Hap" McCue in 1992? And did Margaret teach the Ojibwe language anywhere prior to 2006?

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Re: Margaret Noodin Ojibwe Professor
« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2021, 11:39:39 pm »
Is there any evidence Margaret Noodin knew or taught the Ojibwe Language before moving to Ann Arbor, Michigan and working with Irving "Hap" McCue in 1992? And did Margaret teach the Ojibwe language anywhere prior to 2006?

Meg Aerol and four others were thanked for "transcribing and some copy editing" in the Oshkaabewis Native Journal, Volume 1, Issue 3, American Indian Studies Center, 1990.

But I don't know what all that involved. Only a snippet view of this can be seen on Google Books.

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Re: Margaret Noodin Ojibwe Professor
« Reply #65 on: June 11, 2021, 01:11:21 am »
Meg was one of 2 Ojibway language instructors at U of Mich after Hap McCue passed. She started teaching Ojibway in 2006 with Hap and continued with Howard Kimewon after Hap passed in March 2008 until she moved to Wisconsin and I dont remember the exact year

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Re: Margaret Noodin Ojibwe Professor
« Reply #66 on: June 12, 2021, 10:20:11 pm »
Oshkaabewis Native Journal back issues are online, including vol. 1 no. 3:
https://www.bemidjistate.edu/airc/community-resources/journal/history-and-back-issues/

The acknowledgment including Aerol is on p. 3 of the pdf. There are brief texts in Ojibwe on p. 29 and on p. 167.


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Re: Margaret Noodin Ojibwe Professor
« Reply #68 on: October 10, 2021, 05:12:03 pm »
I worked out a tree for Meg Noodin based on the findings here. Let me know what you think! It's public on Ancestry and called "Noodin Family Tree."

http://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/pt/RSVP.aspx?dat=MTczOTg5MTU0OzswMGFhOTllOC0wMDAzLTAwMDAtMDAwMC0wMDAwMDAwMDAwMDA7MjAyMTEwMTAxNzA2MjA7MzI3Njk=&mac=h4/F9Jk7XhiIiL3nEPJUow==

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Re: Margaret Noodin Ojibwe Professor
« Reply #69 on: October 10, 2021, 08:59:25 pm »
The link to the tree doesn't work. Check and make sure the tree is set to public.

This has also been an issue with the tree links in the pretendians google doc. It looks like it's an "invite guest" link, as when clicked on it says:
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An error occured while processing your invitation

Your invitation to view the family tree cannot be found.

The reason for this error could be one of the following:

    Your invitation has already been used.
    This invitation may have already been accepted by somebody else. Each invitation is only good for one user.
    Your invitation is no longer valid.
    The owner of the family tree may have rescinded your invitation to see the tree.


I worked out a tree for Meg Noodin based on the findings here. Let me know what you think! It's public on Ancestry and called "Noodin Family Tree."

http://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/pt/RSVP.aspx?dat=MTczOTg5MTU0OzswMGFhOTllOC0wMDAzLTAwMDAtMDAwMC0wMDAwMDAwMDAwMDA7MjAyMTEwMTAxNzA2MjA7MzI3Njk=&mac=h4/F9Jk7XhiIiL3nEPJUow==

Offline WINative

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Re: Margaret Noodin Ojibwe Professor
« Reply #70 on: November 05, 2021, 03:43:57 am »
Video from 2010 of Margaret Noori at the University of Michigan looking more like a classroom aide under teachers Howard Kimewon and Alphonse Pitawanakwat. Both who are fluent speakers but have no problems teaching non-Indians Ojibwe. I think her focus is more on singing with her group the "Swamp Singers" and creating her own solo songs.


https://youtu.be/HaDcg5-K1Oo

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Re: Margaret Noodin Ojibwe Professor
« Reply #71 on: November 11, 2021, 03:52:29 am »
Meg was a professor of both Ojibway language and women's studies at the University of Michigan

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Re: Margaret Noodin Ojibwe Professor
« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2021, 04:07:30 am »
Margaret O'Donnell Bodellan Aerol Noori Noodin recently contributed to an article that appeared in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. She made very interesting comments on "traceable" ancestors and identity. The relevant portion is quoted below.

"Wisconsin is full of cities with Indigenous names. So why do we know so little about them?"
Eddie Morales and Samantha Hendrickson - Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Published 11/16/2021 at 2:08 PM CT, Updated 11/16/2021 at 2:24 PM CT

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Noodin, who also teaches Ojibwe language courses, said people with Indigenous identity range from enrolled citizens of sovereign nations to descendants with clear family narratives.

“You will often encounter descendants who, like in my family, have stories that we know are traceable and we can talk about,” she said. “For me, part of the inspiration in learning and teaching the language was to honor at least some of my ancestors.”

Noodin said she meets many students who’ve grown up away from their nations, and because they feel disconnected, they often want to learn more about their own history.

“I think today, unless you're teaching on one of the reservations, you often have to be very careful because people's identity has been erased with their language and their ability to practice their culture,” she said.

Noodin said people who say they are Native should be able to say which community they return to frequently, or stay in touch with, and who in a particular community knows them.

“You really just have to honor where people are at and listen to their full narrative, and ultimately the best way to know if someone has an Indigenous connection is to find out where that narrative leads,” she said. “Does it connect to a community who claims them? That's the most important thing.”

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Re: Margaret Noodin Ojibwe Professor
« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2021, 10:12:54 am »
Hi advanced, could please provide a link to the article.  Thank you.  😉


Margaret O'Donnell Bodellan Aerol Noori Noodin recently contributed to an article that appeared in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. She made very interesting comments on "traceable" ancestors and identity. The relevant portion is quoted below.

"Wisconsin is full of cities with Indigenous names. So why do we know so little about them?"
Eddie Morales and Samantha Hendrickson - Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Published 11/16/2021 at 2:08 PM CT, Updated 11/16/2021 at 2:24 PM CT

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Noodin, who also teaches Ojibwe language courses, said people with Indigenous identity range from enrolled citizens of sovereign nations to descendants with clear family narratives.

“You will often encounter descendants who, like in my family, have stories that we know are traceable and we can talk about,” she said. “For me, part of the inspiration in learning and teaching the language was to honor at least some of my ancestors.”

Noodin said she meets many students who’ve grown up away from their nations, and because they feel disconnected, they often want to learn more about their own history.

“I think today, unless you're teaching on one of the reservations, you often have to be very careful because people's identity has been erased with their language and their ability to practice their culture,” she said.

Noodin said people who say they are Native should be able to say which community they return to frequently, or stay in touch with, and who in a particular community knows them.

“You really just have to honor where people are at and listen to their full narrative, and ultimately the best way to know if someone has an Indigenous connection is to find out where that narrative leads,” she said. “Does it connect to a community who claims them? That's the most important thing.”