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Bufo Deaths & Fraud Involving Toad “Shamans” Octavio Rettig & Gerry Sandoval
Defend the Sacred:
--- Quote from: rjc on June 13, 2017, 08:22:07 pm ---Of course no one brought the toad anywhere, this clearly shows your lack of understanding.
... Come visit sometime we'll have a beer ( vegan, organic, freetrade only)
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After so many years working to stop appropriation and desecration in our communities, after years of abusive, entitled, disgusting colonising creeps like Rob/rjc here posting their ignorant, racist screeds, some days it's hard to stay in a place of prayer. It can be hard to stay focused on peace.
I assumed this dude was so out of touch with the Earth that they weren't hauling amphibians from South America to Ireland. Not that doing such a thing would be at all OK, either, but it's typical of these white dudes to be that out of touch with the spirits and land and waters and beings where they are. They prefer their drugged and drunken hallucinations and chaotic dissonance over humble, traditional ways of respecting and honouring the spirits of the land. Any land. And respect for the traditional people who are the keepers of those ways never enters their diseased, drunken minds. They only see Indigenous people as obstacles or objects to exploit for secrets they can steal then cast aside like used toilet paper. It's evident by everything they do and say, as seen above.
Men like this are full of violence and projection and privilege. Travelling the world to violate other people's boundaries and sacred sites, attempting to drag the mangled ways they've vultured from one culture into the ceremonial areas of another land they've invaded. So rootless and spiritually bereft they have to seek out fraudulent teachers and "Toad Shamans" via the Internet, flying in on airplanes and relying on social media for advice, yet bizarrely denigrating traditional people and Indigenous educators who maintain a simple website to educate about the harms of these mistakes.
I'm always tempted to simply delete these racist screeds. But since this is so typical of the whitesplaining appropriators who keep the frauds in business, who think they own everything from the people, to the spiritual ways, to the lands they violate and desecrate, I guess we might as well leave it up as an example of the disrespect we see every day.
Right after spewing at us, Rob here changed his email to try to hide his identity. I'm not re-activating his account. He's said his piece. It's clear what he is.
Defend the Sacred:
Rob, you should be ashamed of yourself. But I don't think you are capable of feeling shame or remorse. Maybe one drunken night the spirits will finally notice you and take some action. I hope they do.
educatedindian:
--- Quote from: rjc on June 13, 2017, 08:22:07 pm ---Clearly I'm dealing with [childish personal attack].
I don't know Octavio personally. I'm sure he is a flawed human being like the rest of us. I understand he is a somewhat controversial figure and yes probably quite driven in his approach. I don't think his approach will suit everyone, its true. All I'm saying is that my personal experience of him and of this medicine were positive. Other people may have other opinions, but that's ok. I don't claim he's perfect.
I accept your right to disagree with me.
--- Quote ---"qualified psychotherapist." The term is meaningless, at least in the US
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The US is not the centre of the universe, you must be [juvenile crack]. I clearly stated I was in Ireland.
With your [childish ignorant attack] how am I supposed to take you seriously when you talk about the internal politics of the seri people?
I'll give you one piece of advice for free [cheesy Nuage cliche]. Maybe one day I'll meet you guys hanging out in Rishikesh singing kirtan [more childishness]
--- Quote ---Extreme narcissism
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My experience of extreme narcissism, is some one who reacts with anger to anyone who disagrees with them, like for example your president or [yet more childishness].
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You brought those poor toads to the cold climate of Ireland, and made them suffer,
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Fair point. Hilarious though. Of course no one brought the toad anywhere, this clearly shows [yet more personal attacks].
But at least we agree on something [irrelevant nonsense]
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It's hard to believe Rob Coffey is an adult, much less a supposed therapist. Confrontational, threatening, verbally abusive, immature, flirting with racism, and much like Rettig, piling on one falsehood after another.
An actual therapist with an actual practice or academic standing would not get defensive and refuse to show any credentials or degrees. He would not fill post after post with the verbal equivalent of spit and vomit. Clearly he is not a doctor at all. Clearly Mr. Coffey is in far more need of therapy than anyone who might have the misfortune to have gotten counseling from him.
Sparks:
--- Quote from: educatedindian on June 14, 2017, 07:50:59 pm ---It's hard to believe Rob Coffey is an adult, much less a supposed therapist. Confrontational, threatening, verbally abusive, immature, flirting with racism, and much like Rettig, piling on one falsehood after another.
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Interestingly, I found a page where one Rob Coffey claims to be a psychotherapist:
--- Quote from: https://www.meetup.com/Nature-Therapy-Mental-Health-Hiking/ ---Inward Bound Nature Therapy Mental and Physical Wellbeing
Location Dublin, Ireland
Members 235
Organizers Rob C.
[ "I'm a very experienced outdoor guide ( Mountaineering Ireland Mountain Leader) and psychotherapist (IACP preaccredited). I believe nature connection is essenti...".]
What we're about
Public Group
We all need nature connection in our lives to slow down, ground, connect to ourselves and with others. To remain balanced and with good mental and physical health we need to reconnect with nature.
This meet up will be a series of nature connection hikes and events facilitated by Rob Coffey, Ireland's only Mountaineering Ireland Mountain Leader and psychotherapist ( IACP pre-accredited)
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I bolded the last paragraph. Now what does "IACP pre-accredited" mean? I find no Mr. Coffey on their list of Accredited Members:
--- Quote from: https://iacp.ie/page/therapists ---iacp Irish Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy
Find a Counsellor / Psychotherapist
Search results: 2361 therapists matching your search criteria.
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Sparks:
A further notice about Rob Coffey found in a link in my previous post:
--- Quote from: https://www.meetup.com/Nature-Therapy-Mental-Health-Hiking/members/235713018/ ---Inward Bound Nature Therapy Mental and Physical Wellbeing
Rob C. Organizer
Location: Dublin
Organizer since: September 5, 2017
Introduction
I'm a very experienced outdoor guide ( Mountaineering Ireland Mountain Leader) and psychotherapist (IACP preaccredited). I believe nature connection is essential for mental and physical well being
Member of 5 other Meetups
Dublin Men's Empowerment Group
Organizer
Celtic Wheel Gatherings
Member
Gnostic Studies
Member
ManKind Project Dublin
Member
Soul Seminars
Member
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For more about the ManKind Project see this thread in the forum:
The ManKind Project - Misogynist Pretendian Cult - England
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