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General => Frauds => Topic started by: nemesis on January 23, 2012, 01:35:18 am
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According to this FB page
http://www.facebook.com/karin.tag
(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/276483_195841997139876_2240618_n.jpg)
Karin Tag
is the founder of the World Council of Elders
It appears that the WCOE is planning a conference in Germany in September 2012
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/396762_285504751506933_195841997139876_817972_424564261_n.jpg)
Video of Karin Tag here - German? Language - apparently she's like Indiana Jones only with added Mayans and crystal skulls. Or something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG30n_eFz6k
and as for this........ ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e2OpOSKRno&feature=related
This website is hers also
http://www.seraphim-institut.de
Just as an aside, and I'm not sure how relevant this is, but the Deer Tribe associated musician Mihirangi has the World Council of Elders as a recommended link on her website, so I'm wondering whether there might be deer tribe connection also?
MIHIRANGI RECOMMENDS...
World Council of Elders
www.worldcouncilofelders.org
Is a global organization dedicated to helping the world’s Elders preserve and share their teachings. Learn more about the world’s beautiful and diverse indigenous cultures, the tremendous wisdom of their Elders…
source: (scroll down)
http://www.mihirangi.com/Links.php
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I split the topic. Tag's group is Council of World Elders, while Vaspra's is the World Council of Elders. And Tag deserves her own thread. She's one of the crystal numbskulls, right at the heart of that fraud.
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http://www.crystalskulls.com/karin-tag.html
KARIN TAG
Crystal Skull Researcher
Since 1986, Karin Tag (Prof.hc.Dr.hc. holistic sciences) has explored and researched archaeological and geological excavations. Karin’s interest in unusual objects began while she was studying artifacts in the Senckenberg Museum in Frankfurt and the Jurassic Museum in Eichstätt (Germany). During her excavations she found many artifacts that she donated to these museums.
These experiences drove her into intensive studies of alternative remedial arts and research into electromagnetic fields and photon energy. This ultimately led to the development of her photon camera, which is a mixture of several methods of measuring electromagnetic fields and photon movements.
Karin Tag is the CEO and founder of the ISR-Institute and the Seraphim-Institute. She received her doctorate in holistic sciences from the University of Oregon. Karin Tag is a Reiki Master and is certified in the art of Traditional Chinese Medicine, homeopathic therapies and Phyto therapy. She has also authored five books including her latest covering the findings of her crystal skull research - available in english soon. (German edition in print now)
Karin Tag is also the caretaker of Corazon De Luz, her incredible Crystal Skull that originated from South America and is considered to be ancient. This skull is believed to be connected to the Incas from the Holy Valley of Pisaq, Cusco.
Karin Tag (Karen Day) lives in a small, quaint town near Frankfurt (Frankfurt), Germany. She is fluent in seven languages.
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Obviously Lakota or Mayan or any other Native tongue are not among those languages, judging by her singing in those videos.
Her claimed accomplishments aren't actually impressive.
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http://irna.lautre.net/Pseudo-scientific-validation.html
In 2007, it appears that the Osmanagic Foundation is continuing to invite foreign scientists to Visoko to study the ‘pyramids’ - but ‘scientists’ of a very different kind from the previous ones, who had been bona fide geologists or archaeologists. For instance, a news item dated 30th of April on the Foundation website mentions the visit of "Dr. Harry Oldfield from Great Britain and Dr. Karin Tag from Germany".
Let’s begin with "Dr. Karin Tag". The Foundation provides only her name, but she is described by the local media (bs) and pro-pyramid forums as an "archaeologist and geologist". No point in looking for any academic references or publications; you won’t find them. Karin Tag is, nevertheless, a medium, a member (and maybe even founder - she owns the domain name, at least) of the "Seraphim Institute" (de). The purpose of this Institute, located in Germany, is that of establishing world peace by means of meditation, prayer and "energy transfers" using a "crystal skull", of which Karin Tag is also the guardian. Karin Tag takes this crystal skull, known as the "Corazón de Luz" (Heart of Light) - we are told that it has links with Atlantis - all over the world to "places of magic" that she uses the skull to "activate." Besides the classic examples of the temple of Karnak and Great Pyramid of Kufu, these places of magic also include Notre Dame, the Eiffel Tower and Euro-Disney... Can we neglect the possibility of the skull making a brief trip recently to one of the Bosnian ‘pyramids’? [2]
....[2] I was not mistaken : today, 7th May 2007, the Fondation has just published (bs) the results of an "experiment" on the "energy interaction between a crystal skull and the Bosnian pyramid of the Sun". We learn that Karin Tag, "crystal skull expert", again described as an "archaeology and geology PhD", has brought her skull, said to be of Maya origin, to the top of the hill of Visocica. This event was witnessed by Harry Oldfield, who used his amazing invention (see the continuation of the article) to record the "photon and electromagnetic fields" from the ‘pyramid’ before, during and after the skull’s fleeting visit. If you have the strength of mind to look at the lengthy video (mostly in English) presented on the Foundation web site, you will be rewarded by the knowledge of how Ms. Tag "activated" the ‘pyramid of the Sun’ and "opened its energy portal", hoping to bring peace and wealth to Bosnia and to the entire world ; on the other side, if you keep your eyes peeled at around the 14th minute, you’ll hear a sentence from Mr. Oldfield to the effect that he, along with his German colleague, observed an "unidentified flying object" near the ‘pyramid’... And I had really been on the point of wondering if it wasn’t about time for extraterrestrial pyramid-builders to make an appearance!
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Tag's council includes notorious fraud Humbatz Men AKA Cesar Mena Toto. We have multiple threads on him.
http://www.council-of-world-elders.org/Hunbatz_men.html
The council also includes a Japanense author, a Mongolian poet, two others identified as Nepalese shamans, a swami from India, and these two.
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http://www.council-of-world-elders.org/coco_vizcarra.html
Coco Vizcarra is an Inka Shaman with Quechua roots. He was born in the Amazonian district of Peru and has travelled the whole world to represent the Quechua culture. His life is formed by his Native American origin. 25 years ago, while searching for the ancient traces of his culture, he joined a particular circle of native indians consisting of different tribes and traditions of the American continent. He then went through a long and disciplined teaching process, but without any intention for a shamanic title. He understands himself as a messenger for his ancestors, the Inka....
"AYLU MASI KUNAPA - We are all related to each other"
He is a specialist for ethnology and cultural anthropology. He is intensively occupied with the history and the devastating cultural background of his ancestors, the Inka. Together with his family he is very busy in supporting the native people of his country for the conservation and promotion of their indigenous culture. He has been cooperating for many years with renowned representatives, authors and scientists for the conservation of this unique Quechua culture.
KUSI KAWSAY - a school project in the Andes
He is especially engaged with the KUSI KAWSAY school project, which is a school for indigenous children of the Sacred Valley of the Inka in the Peruvian Andes. It was founded for the conservation and survival of the Quechua culture....
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http://www.council-of-world-elders.org/ruben_saufkie.html
Ruben M. Saufkie sen., Native American Hopi, singer and dancer of the Hopi Water Clan
He is dedicated to the revival of traditional Hopi dances, performing them together with his family during tribal festivals.
He participated in two historical Hopi runs. As coordinator of the H2opi run from Arizona to Mexico City in 2006 he pointed out the importance of water as an essential vital element. The second run was the Fire Run from Mexico City to the land of the Hopi people in 2007, which was coordinated by Ruben Saufkie.
Ruben Saufkie is extraordinarily contributed to the native traditions of the Hopi youngsters. He is teaching them the abstinence of alcohol and the values of the ancient wisdom of the Hopi tradition....
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Saufkie's father does have a long questionable history, but I couldn't find anything harmful the son has done.
As for Vizcarra, you can find him all over the net...as a hotel owner! Running a little inn in Peru along with his brother and both their German wives.
On the council's facebook page, their is a huge sign at the conference even listing Greenpeace as one of these "elders."
Clearly Tag isn't using elder to mean what we are accustomed to using the word for. She seems to be using people who would not claim that title for themselves, except as elderLY, and minus one huge exception, she has chosen mostly activists. She's sponsoring this council to make herself look good and hide her history of exploitation and lies, much like Vaspra and much like Jyoti the sponsor of the 13 Grandmothers.
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Aaaah a Bosnian "pyramid" link! 8)
Now there's an interesting subject on so many levels. The Serb Nationalist movement and the new age movement are deeply intertwined in Bosnia and the "pyramids" are just one example of this unusual constellation.
Interestingly lots of newagers from all over the world are rushing to take the opportunity to work long hours completely unpaid renovating the "pyramids".
I was reading reports on message boards from people who'd been and it's really hard work but they just love it because of all the newagers who converge there. Crystal skulls aplenty as I'm sure you can imagine.
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I recommend to move this thread to the fraud section:
Karin Tag is not only selling distorted versions of alleged indigenous spirituality and claiming to be recognised by ndns, but is also active in other esoteric fields and cooperates with persons active in the extremist right and publishes her book with a company covering esotericism, conspiration theories, and extremist right issues.
The English language site E.I. quoted is the only one to mention alleged titles "Prof. Dr" - the sites maintained by Ms Tag herself do not make such claims. Of course, it is a criminal offence under German law to make use of titles one does not really possess, or of vanity titles bought from title mills. Other German language sites also do not mention these alleged titles, although they speak vaguely of some alleged „scientific research“ Tag does and of numerous honours bestowed on her – none of them being specified.
It is likewise noteworthy that both titles mentioned happen to have been awarded "honoris causa", i.e. honorary titles. Or probably "humoris causa" in the case at hands - since the learned lady apparently has some difficulties grasping 5 or maybe even 3-Dollar-words.
http://www.seraphim-institut.de/seraphim_institut.html
On ethnological-political [sic] levels, she has received several awards for her commitment for international understanding within international ethnological [sic] groups of peoples.
The term 'ethnological' is being used throughout the site in this wrong way, like e.g.:
... she organises worldwide congresses and conferences which, in a future-oriented way, deal with the development of new solutions regarding world peace and ethnological resp. environmental education ...
Please also note that Ms Tag, at least according to her own words and claims, is something like a Jack of all trades:
As a lecturerer on international cultural projects, she works for the conservation of cultural assets and values and supports the foundation of schools and educational centres. In 2009, she founded a Museum for ethnological [sic] cultural art and receives valuable exhibits from various ethnological ethnic groups [sic!], among them antique crystal plaques and the Peruvian crystal skull Corazon de Luz which she keeps available to the public,
Why a skull might prefer to go by the name of "Heart of Light" will probably remain its secret.
Ms Tag also claims voluntary work for various organisation for environmental protection and for humanitarian aid projects - none of them mentioned, of course. And she got hung with medals and honours – as you might have guessed, none of them mentioned explicitely:
Within the recent decade, she received special recognition and awards from native peoples due to her political commitment ...
As an aside: there's also a glaring and embarassing grammatical glitch in Tag's German sentence...
Grammatical glitches and wrong use of words, however, are not the only mistakes Ms Tag committed: She also cooperated with William Jervis. The cooperation seems to have been rather temporarily in nature and one may suspect it did not end on cordial terms, since all traces of this cooperation have been carefully deleted from her sites, but you can trust in Jervis spreading the stuff all over the internet on various blogs and sites. Apparently Tag did a ceremony with Jervis and his sidekick Hines, and there are photos of their meeting, e.g. here:
http://turtlewindsfirewalker.lefora.com/2010/04/05/httpwwwindianermedizinmanncomnewshtml-2/
http://turtlewindsfirewalker.blogspot.com/
photo of Jervis & Hines plus Karin Tag
Not to forget: Tag claims she is an author of various books on "shamanic wisdoms and on secret artefacts". She also says there are several employees working for her institute (does the IRS know?).
Tag mentions no price tags. Clients can book individual appointments, e.g.:
Opening of Heart and Soul at the Atlantic crystal library
The Atlantic crystal library with all its sacred items is at the museum of the Council of World Elders. It is Karin Tag's task to keep it available for ceremony. As a shaman trained by the Inca, she allows special persons at special moments to go into ceremony with the library. ... This power is not for sale... Still the Council of World Elders will need an energy exchange in order to save and restore further objects of the Atlantic crystal library. Therefore we rely on donations of energy exchange.
"To go into ceremony" with a library...? This almost sounds like Scientology Newspeak.
According to Ms Tag, clients will of course benefit vastly:
This ceremony will give you initiations which will decorate your path in life with happiness, as a connection to the infinite knowledge of the Atlantic crystal library will connect your path in life with light and joy. The entire ceremony is inspired by the power and the love of angels, and only serves light and love. In the beginning you will be cleansed with flowers and incense and prepared for the ceremony with precious Egyptian oils. After having been cleansed with rose water, you will be prepared to the encounter with the Atlantic crystal library in silent meditation.
Quite apparently, the infinite knowledge offered by this library does not encompass grammar, spelling (e.g. 'spehric music), or writing style (I mean, "the connection ... connects you" - cf above -, well, pu-leeze!).
Ms Tag apparently also has found a way to travel in time, since she claims to have been taught by the Inka. Not only this, but in the further text describing the 'library ceremony', Tag claims: "The ceremony will be done by at least two graduates of the Avalonic School. Sometimes, an Inka will be present in person, too."
Ms Tag also seems to rely on her readers having quite a bad memory. While speaking of 'donations' initially, at the end of the text she informs: "Prices upon inquiry (energy exchange is needed to save further objects...".
Right, so a good memory is what clients don't need in the first place, as they will not only receive a new kozmic name by Corazon, the skull, and Ms Tag. After this ceremony, clients will lead a new, conscious life filled with love and joy every day. Who'll need a good memory, then...
You may also pay for a training to become a guardian of a crystal skull in three grades which she does give price tags for:
On March 17 and 18, 2012, you can do grade 1 for a mere Euro 280.
Grade 2 may be done May 25-27, 2012 (or, as Tag writes: three full days) with Tag asking the fee of Euro 680.
Grade 3 will even supply clients with a "qualification certificate" issued by Seraphim Institute. This course will take eight weekends and cost Euro 2,240. This price does NOT include trips to England for an initiation at Avebury and Stonehenge, and to Egypt.
In Grade 3 courses, Tag claims to teach:
Courses on ritual and ceremonial lore
Symbols, energetic remote transfer (remote healing), activiation and lay-out
of power places
Courses on seminars, initiation rules
Courses on ethnology
Tag comments:
The Grade 3 course is very responsible and is an education in a teaching profession. As in real life, the fee must represent the value and is only possible after an initial interview and subject to the Inca priests' consent. The revenues of this seminar, after costs having been deducted, will go to the Council of World Elders who will use it to support the world elders, indigenous peoples, and environmental organisations.
When one, quite conveniently, happens to be one of the world elders, it is presumably no problem assuring clients all monies after costs will be for the benefit of said world elders.
However, with her wording Tag insinuates that her courses may be compared to official educational and vocational certificates.
The Council also lists several persons as its 'global advisors'. Among these is e.g. Nina Hagen, a German singer who happens to be quite cult-prone.
Further advisors are one "Michael Bear Hawk" and Eva-Maria Mora. We have got a thread on them - Michael and Eva-Maria Mora http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1205.0 . Mr Mora seems to be getting deeper into selling alleged indigenous wisdoms and ceremonies, so that thread will be updated in the near future.
Tag also lists Drunvalo Melchizedek as an advisor.
Another interesting addition as a global advisor is Armin Risi who is mentioned as a 'philosopher and author'. Swiss citizen Risi is an author who works with publishing house Kopp-Verlag in Germany. Kopp publishes books on various conspiration theories, extremist right issues, Ufos, but also alternative medicine and pseudo-science like e.g. "Germanic New Medicine". They also sell a range of nuage products via their webshop, as e.g. different dietary supplements, Flor Essence (pls cf http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3226.0 ), Noni juice etc.
Kopp-Verlag cooperate with Grabert publishing house which publishes extremist right books and gets mentioned in annual reports issued by inland secret service (Federal Bureau for the Protection of the Constitution). Kopp also used to cooperate with Arun publishing house which may be seen as extremist right neo-pagan (NAFPS has got a thread on Arun and its owner Ulbrich: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=841.0 ).
Risi's fields of interest are nuage, conspiration theory, he rejects evolution and also seems to support so-called 'light nourishment'.
Risi took part in one of the conferences organised by Ms Tag and wrote a lengthy report of which Tag publishes one paragraph, complete with a logo of Kopp-Verlag, on the site of her alleged Council of Elders site. The site of her institute is linked to the website of Kopp-Verlag.
Kopp-Verlag publishes the complete report Risi did, and there are some interesting paragraphs:
Five weeks prior to the congress of the Council of World Elders, a Swiss organiser invited four Maya elders to participate in two large events... I mentioned these events in my lectures and thought there was a cooperation. Both events drew an audience of 1,000 persons, but the following congress was not mentioned. Quite the contrary - the Maya present emphasized that only Maya were in a position to pass on Maya knowledge, and everybody else had only used Maya knowledge to make money. They explicitely mentioned José Argüelles who had died shortly before. [...]
Critical listeners soon noticed that these were "fundamentlist" Maya on the stage. The accusation of all non-Maya only making money with Maya knowledge was broad generalisation and lacked respect. After all, Argüelles received lots of honours and titles from different Maya tribes [...] and his work of 30 years undeniably introduced Mayan knowledge to the world [...]
In retrospect it is evident that this line of Maya representatives cannot accept a Council of World Elders or an European woman as the leader and coordinator of the Council or as the guardian of a crystal skull. Contrary to these events in Switzerland, the Bad Homburg congress passed only positive knowledge and constructive criticism.
We definitely need Ms Tag and her 'global advisor' Risi to learn who the real racists are.... : sarcasm off: . These paragraphs cast a revealing light on the attitude of white supremacy held by both nuagers and the extremist right, in which ndns rejecting the Euro expropriation of indigenous spirituality will be defamed as 'fundamentalists' not representing the 'true Indians' ™, all garnished with the accusation of reverse racism.
But we can learn some more racist views from Ms Tag at the site of "Basel Psi Association":
http://www.bpv.ch/content/texte/corazon-de-luz.html
Crystal skulls are held sacred by the indigenous peoples of South America for millenia as a storage of knowledge for the turning of times ahead. In their presence, people have received images, visions, and messages time and again. Since 2002, when Karin Tag was recognized as the guardian of Corazon de Luz in a ritual of the Inka, she studies the Peruvian crystal skull scientifically and medially.
On one of the journey she received a special initiation into Indian-shamanic rituals and ceremonies. She received the honorary title of a Curandera and was given the crystal skull Corazon de Luz to work for world peace."They have given me the skull to take it to Europe in order to support the process connected to the Indian prophecy about the year 2012. This is the year many calendars end, and the Inka, Maya, and Hopi all speak of an intensive change of consciousness." [...]
But why Europe? In an interview, Karin explains: "The prophecy says that people from Europe - the white people - will found a new world culture and will take this to South America to unite the peoples. It simply is like this that a part of the prophecy will be fulfilled here and they trust the skull to arrange it the right way."
This is so far off the track it gets pathetic. Indigenous peoples have struggled, and still do, to preserve their cultures and languages – but none of them are looking to the white people once more forcing another culture upon them, not even 'a new world culture'. This is nothing but white man's burden reloaded, and that concept was BS the first time around already. As a European philosopher said: History repeats itself the first time as a tragedy, the second time as a farce. And when none too bright Euro ladies running scamming schemes called institutes and world councils claim to fulfill home-made, conveniently fantasized prophecies, what else but a farce can this be?
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When I was a kid, I was really fascinated by the Crystal Skulls. So I read up on them. And all of the ones that I've seen have been categorically declared fakes. I detest wilful ignorance, so when people claim that "Science can't know everything", I tend to reply with "no, but if I can repeat the experiment and get the same result, there's a pretty good chance that in this instance science is right" (I studied experimental and theoretical physics for a while at Uni) and since we're talking about electron microscopy, this is pretty old science and pretty reliable science.
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Tag's people contacted us, wanting we take down the thread. First is their email followed by my response.
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Dear New Age Fraud Team,
down to the present day no one of Karin Tag's clients, business partners or public authorities were in juristic dispute with her.
Please delete your reports of Karin Tag in the column "Frauds".
Anyway your report is insulting Karin Tag with comments like "...She's one of the crystal numbskulls...".
Could you please delete the following topics?
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=8sh5cnfkecedmqt4148p8r6gp7&topic=3559.msg30374#msg30374
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=8sh5cnfkecedmqt4148p8r6gp7&topic=3580.msg30382#msg30382
Please understand our situation. I'm sure if someone would claim your business or job is criminal, you are a numbskull,... you would like to delete such false accusation, too.
Thank you for your understanding.
Kind regards
Seraphim-Team
Seraphim-Institut
Panoramaweg 27
61194 Niddatal
Germany
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We do not delete proof that a fraud is in fact a fraud just because their feelings are hurt.
That she has not yet been prosecuted for fraud is a sign of laxness of the authorities, not innocence.
The only way we could remove Ms. Tag from the Frauds section is if she were to stop her fraudulent activities:
1. Cease claiming that crystal skulls are Mayan or Native in any way. They are forgeries from the late 19th century.
2. Cease promoting and working with fellow imposters like Cesar Mena Toto, who falsely claims to be a Mayan elder named Hunbatz Men, and imposters claiming to be "Inkas." The Incans have been gone for four centuries.
3. Cease her racist claims that whites will or should take over Native traditions and her publishing a book by an extreme right wing publisher.
4. Cease falsely claiming to have academic title.
5. Pay reparations to the clients she cheated and to Native peoples she made false claims about.
Should Ms Tag make amends and quit lying, deceiving, and cheating, we will gladly remove her from Frauds and praise her efforts.
These emails and all others will be posted online for all to see.
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There is no "Holistic Sciences" degree, doctorate or otherwise, at the University of Oregon. There is a holistic nutrition program at Oregon Health and Sciences University, I think, but it's unlikely that she'd flake out on the name of the school that issued her Ph.D.
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There is no "Holistic Sciences" degree, doctorate or otherwise, at the University of Oregon. There is a holistic nutrition program at Oregon Health and Sciences University, I think, but it's unlikely that she'd flake out on the name of the school that issued her Ph.D.
Well, do you really think she wouldn't flake out on the name?
On her own sites, Ms Tag mentioned either Oregon State U and U of Oregon, and the same happened on several sites mentioning her titles.
One Nuage mag running a review on one of her books then spoiled it all by naming the institution correctly:
http://www.sein.de/empfehlungen/buchempfehlungen/esoterik/mysterium-kristallschaedel-ein-raetsel-der-menschheit-wird-entschluesselt.html
... Senat of the Oregon State CH.& University den Titel Prof. h.c. Holistic Sciences, USA, ...
It was the Oregon State Church & University - a title mill which sold profs at some $ 400. Unfortunately, they overlooked the detail of having to register their church in the USA, so the titles sold are illegal in the USA, too. One may assume that the operators chose the name of their title mill quite well...., but only ill-meaning persons would insinuate the name was chosen in such a way as to facilitate an identification of this rather shady institution with a reputable university in Oregon by mistake.
In Germany, such titles are illegal with or without this institution being registered wherever, and using them is an offence - which is the reason Ms Tag went out of her way to have the titles taken down from as many websites as she could, including her own. As always, some of the site owners will comply, while others can't be arsed, so there is still proof online. And one thing she will never be able to have corrected accordingly is the Wikipedia discussion on deleting her articles where she joined in announcing her name was "Dr. Karin Tag".
A few more sites have meanwhile taken down her name altogether, or adjusted to a more modest "Karin Tag", devoid of all titles. We may assume Ms Tag, or probably her institute, sent a few more e-mails. Perhaps Ms Tag hasn't been informed about so-called screenshots...
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She does seem concerned with her reputation, or bottom line. And willing to spend money on it. First their email, followed by my response.
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Dear Sirs,
secure.me is an online reputation service and provides research for customer items in the (world wide) web. Our effort is to observe and protect our customer’s reputation.
Wrong descriptions by third parties or unauthorized releases of photos could lead to a great deal of annoyance – for prospective carreers, the company or family. On behalf of our customer Karin Tag we detected such a content on the http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=8sh5cnfkecedmqt4148p8r6gp7&topic=3559.msg30374#msg30374 website.
Mrs. Tag did not agree to the publication and was compromised by the content. The negative entry could possibly have a longsome bad influence for our customer – and has no advantage for you or your website. This brings us to ask you to remove the publication extensively and immediately. Please consider this in your decision
We appreciate your cooperation and thank you for your effort.
Sincerely,
Nicole Jones
secure.me
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Ms. Jones.
We do correct misinformation when we find it.
But there is no inaccurate description of Ms. Tag and what she does. We challenge you to say so specifically.
For example, Ms Tag falsely claims to have the academic titles of Dr. and Professor. She is neither.
She promotes crystal skulls as supposedly Mayan. In fact they were long ago proven to be forgeries.
Is it the policy of your company to protect the reputation of unethical people, even lawbreakers?
If so, the authorities may find that interesting.
We at NAFPS look forward to your response.
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Hmm. You know, looking at secure.me's Web site it appears they concern themselves pretty much exclusively with Facebook.
And this language seemed kinda spammy to me so I Googled it. Sure enough I see the exact language in a comment on a random blog post with a different (and quite strange) company name (what reputable company in their right mind would leave a message like this as a comment on a blog post)?
Dear Mistress,
Ruflotse is an online reputation service and provides the research for customer items in the internet. Our effort is to observe and protect our customer’s reputation.
Wrong descriptions by third parties or unauthorized release of photos could lead to a great deal of annoyance – for a prospective career, company or family. On behalf of our customer Mrs. Marina Profenna we detected such a content on your blog
http://hismidlifemycrisis.blogspot.com/
in a post from December 28 2010.
Mr. Profenna did not agree to the publication and was compromised by the content. The negative entry could possibly have a longsome bad influence for our customer – and has no advantage for you or your website. This brings us to ask you to remove the publication extensively and immediately. Please consider this in your decision
We appreciate your cooperation and thank you for your effort.
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Also, notice in the example I pulled from the blog post it's Mrs. Profenna in one paragraph and Mr. Profenna in the other?
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It looks like Ruflotse is the same company as secure.me and that is what it is known as in Germany. Still, I suspect there could be some spoofing going on here?
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It looks like Ruflotse is the same company as secure.me and that is what it is known as in Germany. Still, I suspect there could be some spoofing going on here?
Secure.me got its start in Germany back in 2007, building an all-purpose tool called Ru?otse, which lets users to track themselves across the web and in social networks.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/05/secure-me/ (http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/05/secure-me/)
Definitely is weird, there is mention on their site of a premium service level, but I don't find specific info on that. I'd assume someone would have to pay for a service to send out emails like this. Or this is a case of spoofing.
Even if the company and email is legit, they come across suspicious.
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Ruflotse [reputation pilot] is the former name of the company; it was renamed "secure.me" in November 2011.
Ruflotse used to sell services promising their clients they would protect their customers' reputation and delete internet material presenting them in an unfavourable way. They charge for this service, although they seem to send standard mails with the same wording, exchanging just URLs and clients' names. NAFPS received a mail by them some years ago asking to remove the thread on J.-Michael Kalagin aka Tacan'sina Miwatani. The mail was sent in German, and it does seem that educatedindian's notice we were English speaking had a somewhat unfortunate effect on their verbosity...
The site of Secure.me presently indeed seems to restrict their business on whatever tool it may be they're selling to clients to keep track of farcebook contributions with which clients may endanger their privacy.
If I see this correctly, what they do/sell boils down to closing the stable door well after the horses bolted. Put bluntly, remarks like fleecing the clients come to mind.
The site does not mention they continue the service provided as Ruflotse and I can find nothing on their site which describes or offers such services. The respective texts formerly available at the site of Ruflotse are gone.
So now they are selling "an all-purpose tool called Ru?otse, which lets users to track themselves across the web and in social networks." Hmmmm... did Google close down? Oh wait - Google is for free...
All in all, I'd assume they do not quite qualify for a membership in the Association of Honourable Merchants ....
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Secure.Me just sent a message confirming, essentially, that...
No, they don't verify or vouch that their clients are not lying or even breaking the law. They take their client's word for it. And would we please remove the thread anyway...
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Dear Sir or Madame,
Thank you for your response.
We are very sorry to hear that you won't remove the mentioned content about Ms.Tag.
The service offered by secure.me is not mandatory nor any kind of legal assistance. Unfortunately we can't comprehend whether the information provided by our clients is plausible or not.
Again, Ms. Tag would greatly appreciate it if you would please kindly remove any information regarding her and her work from your website.
Best regards,
Nicole Jones
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Dear New Age Fraud Team,
you are speaking of hurt feelings. But remember that insulting people as numbskulls or claiming their activities as fraud without any juristic accusation is unfair and illegal.
Your argument is really strange. Karin Tag is working in many countries. And you claim all public authorities of these countries are too lax?
Anyway you are just collecting some personal opinons in the internet and do not verifying them like "extreme right wing publisher" or "her (Karin Tag) racist claims...". In fact Karin Tag is involved in African peace projects with African native people!
Further more you can even read in your own forum Karin Tag's academic title is not in use. Your reasoning is really curious.
And Hunbatz Men is not claiming to be an Inka. I'm sure this is one more personal opinion found anywhere in the internet...
"...her racist claims that whites will or should take over Native traditions". I'm sorry but I conclude you don't understand Karin Tag's books. Her books are not published in English...
You have never met Karin Tag either any clients of her but you assert they are cheated...
Publishing the full conversation would be good. Because all visitors of your website should be informed about your frivolous research and reporting. They should be informed about your activities in spreading lies about innocent people. If you do not stop insulting and spreading lies we will take legal assistance. You have no right to spread such lies.
It's not right to start such slander campaigns about people you do not even know and you do not even have any legally verifiable evidence. We will answer back. You know about the numerous charitable projects funded by Karin Tag. This charitable projects are seriously damaged because of your lies. It's worth for taking legal assistance because of defending the charitable projects.
On your website are public figures like the Dalai Lama denounced and insulted. Your behaviour is not a model for the American understanding of freedom of opinion and personal development.
Delete promptly all reports about Karin Tag. Using this photo of Karin Tag on your website without her permission is illegal, too. Furthermore we expect your official apology for the spread of the rumor Karin Tag is a racist and would steal anything from the natives.
Deadline to delete your sites about Karin Tag is 9th April 2013. If they are still existing when deadline is reached we will charge our lawyer in the U.S. Naturally your domain administrator will be informed about your slander campaigns.
Kind regards
Seraphim-Team
[Spam removed. You posted the same material that was already in the thread. Any further spamming will result in a ban.]
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First, you need to introduce yourself. You've sent numerous emails with legal threats and chosen to never say your name. It is rather bizarre and hypocritical to use a name like Worldpeace and then make threats.
Obviously neither you nor Tag are used to being around Native people or you would know it's protocol to say who you are first. Go to Intros and do that.
And you certainly should do that before tossing around ludicrous threats to sue.
It's obvious English is not your first language, so we'll keep that in mind. But there's really no excuse for failing to read what's right in front of you.
For example, Cesar Toto, the fraud calling himself Hunbatz Men, claims to be Mayan. "Inkas" don't exist. It's spelled Inca, not Inka. And the Incas were the emperors, not the people. The Incas have been gone for centuries, and the people are called Quechua or Ayamara, not Inca. Tag has worked with frauds calling themelves "Inkas."
You also don't seem to realize your boss and/or leader Ms Tag was published by a far right extremist. You're defending someone who you don't seem to know much about, who you claim is an expert in things neither you nor her know much about.
We get empty threats to sue about once a month. They always, without exception, turn out to be nonsense, so miuch hot air as the expression in English goes. In virtually every case, the person making the silly threats did not even have a lawyer.
You first made these silly threats weeks ago. Your original deadline was April 11, but now you seem to have changed it for who knows what reason. But there's no reason to wait, you have an answer right now.
No. We will not delete anything on Tag because everything about her in this thread is the truth.
We do not back down.
We do not delete simply because a fraud like Tag has followers who make silly noises without knowing the law, or the facts about the fraud they defend.
We do not remove information that warns people away from frauds.
And not once has any fraud succeeded in getting information removed.
You claim to have a lawyer. I doubt that. Tag doesn't operate in the US, so there's no reason she would have one.
You could get one. That would accomplish two things:
Show Tag's pose of being super spiritual is phony.
Real spiritual leaders don't have a lawyer shut down any criticism of them.
When was the last time the Dalai Lama sued someone?
Did Mother Teresa ever hire a lawyer?
And Tag would throw away money on a bad lawyer, one only out for money but who would not sue.
A good one would not take the case. A good one would tell you...
Learn the difference between libel and slander.
Know the law about public figures and libel. A public figure like Tag is almost impossible to libel.
Understand jurisdiction. Tag has no standing to sue us.
Understand the most important legal fact. Truth is an ABSOLUTE defense against libel. All we've said about Tag is true, often based on her own words.
By the way, thanks for admitting that Tag no longer uses her phony "academic title." At least some of the time. It's still up on some sites, and you should get that taken down. Because she is breaking the law by doing that.
And her "title" comes from what is called in the US a degree mill. That's where you pay a fee and they hand you a "title" that no one recognizes and is not valid. Useless for getting work at universities, but useful for fooling some people.
A final point, you claim that Tag aids African people. Please post evidence of that.
In one of your emails you claimed a Ghanan "king" had given her an award. Ghana does not have a king, it's a democracy. Some of the tribes used to have royalty. The man you called a king had a grandfather who led a tribe, but he does not, prefering to live in Germany with his German wife.
I again strongly urge Tag to pay reparations to the American Indian tribes she has harmed with her lies, and to cease making false claims on her site. Then we would gladly remove this thread to Archives and praise her for doing the right thing.
Looking forward to your reply. We are always happy when frauds or their defenders come to this site. They usually give us more revealing information and draw more attention to the wrongs they have done.
That's exactly what you, Tag, and the secure.me site have all done, drawn more attention and gotten more people mto read criticism of Tag.
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Dear New Age Fraud Team,
Our last posted statement was sent to you by email (nafps_13@yahoo.com). Our emails include a postal address. Your email answer didn’t even contain a name. Your answer: “…These emails and all others will be posted online for all to see.” But you didn’t post.
You claim we make threats. This is wrong. In fact we have announced legal action.
We are in doubt with your declaration “NAFPS is an activist group of Native people and our supporters”. Instead of supporting fundraising campaigns and activities to help native people all over the world you make definitely sabotage. Possibly no native people conduct this forum.
As you can see on our homepage we have thousands of witnesses of our pro native people activities. And you insult Karin Tag as the founder of the Council as racist and numbskull…
You have never met her.
Anyway we will continue fighting for self-determination of native tribes. It’s worth to fight for. Natural consequence is legal action.
Kind regards
Seraphim-Team
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So once again you refuse to say your name.
You refuse to provide proof.
You refuse to introduce yourself as asked.
You refuse to answer any of the questions asked.
And you know so little about Natives you do not realize many of the people Tag works with are frauds, not Native.
You issue another empty threat. It's shown to be empty because the date already passed and nothing has happened. No evidence you even have a lawyer.
And you refuse to even bother to look at the evidence of who we are. You know very little, even about who you defend.
You also need to look up what self determination means.
An outsider telling silly lies about crystals skulls that were proven to be hoaxes many years ago does nothing but harm Natives, spreading misinformation and doing damage to sovereignty.
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There's no point in responding to them at this point, really. They're just going in circles and even if they were willing and able to comprehend what you're saying, educatedindian, I think the language barrier is enough that they can't fully understand it anyway.
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Dear New Age Fraud Team,
Our last posted statement was sent to you by email (nafps_13@yahoo.com). Our emails include a postal address. Your email answer didn’t even contain a name. Your answer: “…These emails and all others will be posted online for all to see.” But you didn’t post.
You claim we make threats. This is wrong. In fact we have announced legal action.
We are in doubt with your declaration “NAFPS is an activist group of Native people and our supporters”. Instead of supporting fundraising campaigns and activities to help native people all over the world you make definitely sabotage. Possibly no native people conduct this forum.
As you can see on our homepage we have thousands of witnesses of our pro native people activities. And you insult Karin Tag as the founder of the Council as racist and numbskull…
You have never met her.
Anyway we will continue fighting for self-determination of native tribes. It’s worth to fight for. Natural consequence is legal action.
Kind regards
Seraphim-Team
What tribal nation do you represent?
I am enrolled member who lives on my reservation and you
dont represent me.
This woman is a fraud
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I have a sneaking suspicion that this "Seraphim-team" is just Karin.
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Hi Karen,
You said, "Anyway we will continue fighting for self-determination of native tribes. It’s worth to fight for.".
If that is the case why does your 'museum' contain supposed indigenous artifacts? I would think that if you really cared about indigenous people and our fight for self-determination that you would not be holding supposed artifacts hostage, you'd give them back to the people they really belong to. How do you justify housing supposed artifacts? When were your supposed artifacts collected and by whom? When were they authenticated and by whom?
sky
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Here's a google translation of Karin's Psiram Wiki page....There's more there than there is here. Maybe you should sue them first? Just a thought. ::) (bolded highlights)
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://psiram.com/ge/index.php/Karin_Tag&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dkarin%2Btag%2Bcouncil%2Bof%2Bworld%2Belders%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D707&sa=X&ei=kaVmUZirC-LE4AP9k4CADA&ved=0CHUQ7gEwCA
"Karin Tag (born February 17, 1969, Frankfurt / Main; pseudonyms: Healing Voice and eyes Star) is an esoteric book author from the German Niddatal, director of "Seraphim Institute" and an ISR Institute (ISR institution or for photons Photography . "institute for scientific research and diagnosis with magnetic resonance and photon") and founder of a "Council of Elders World" [1] . As a writer devoted himself day especially the issues crystal skulls and "secret artifacts." She describes herself as a "geological taxidermist," shaman , curandera and "healer to the Inca traditions." As a shaman it is called "Healing Voice" and "guardian of the Crystal Skull Corazon de Luz", which she called messages from remote "Star Nations" to customers channeling . Her work "The Book of Knowledge" was channeled day: "In our publishing program is the channeled book THE BOOK OF KNOWLEDGE." A channel source was a being called Shevan, called a "helper of the archangel Raphael.
Crystal skull Corazon de Luz
Book titles with crystal skulls
Owned in the days of crystal skull Corazon de Luz is said to be one of the oldest crystal skulls in the world. According to popular legend, it could of her unnamed Hopi dated to about 30,000 years. He put "genetic information of the human genetic material" and a "missing link of Darwin." To the dubious source of (allegedly expropriated by Indians) coming Crystal Skull "Corazon de Luz" (Light Heart) writes day:
They have given me the head to Europe in order to support the process that the Indian prophecy to the year 2012 has to do. In the year end so many calendars, and the Inca, Mayan and Hopi all speak of a very strong shift in consciousness. The crystal skulls serve as repositories of knowledge, the information relating to the evolution of consciousness of humanity contain [...] The prophecy says that the people of Europe - the whites - to establish the new world culture and thus to South America come to the people again unite. It's just that in our part of the prophecy is fulfilled, and they trust that the skull that already designed as it is right [...] I really enjoyed the whole crystal skull medial origin and development of human history passed, even beyond 2012, and it is very exciting information, which are very important for us to understand our origins - and to understand how our development and our consciousness has taken place at all.
And it is also said:
The current guardian of the Crystal Skull (Karin day) has the crystal skull brought to many magical places in the world to combine the energies together. Among others, the crystal skull in Egypt was in the Great Pyramid. He was about half an hour alone in the tomb of the King and the Queen's Chamber [sic].
In said chamber was never a sarcophagus. The frequently visited by tourists and is now completely empty chamber. Another claim to crystal skulls refers to mysterious weight fluctuations. With its crystal skull day also maintains certain places to places of power to "enabled" have. Or capitalized "energy points on the earth" should also include the Eiffel Tower in Paris. Days also claims that her unspecified 13 "original old [n] crystal panels" have passed from an "Atlantean Crystal library for this age" to allow people to "access to ancient wisdom." Since that day referred to as "the bearer of the sacred crystal panels." According to the company it deals with alleged archaeological and geological finds. Day was in 2010, also known as a speaker light Children Conference . [2]
Seraphim-Institut
The Seraphim Institute offers several "training" to, for example, for "Seraphim Crystal Skull Guardian" (within 3 degrees), [3] or a multi-level seminar "Energy increases", the Be moved graduates in a position "to work with the Holy Archangels energies. " [4] The company also claims to an ethnological museum operate. [5] In the attached "Heart to Heart Shop" Esoteric products are offered as "alpaca energy blankets" ("light and lovingly energized by Corazon de Luz"), luck dolls for 77 Euro ("are in the light and lovingly energized doll programmed by Corazon de Luz rock crystals and vibrational Egyptian oils contain"), crystal skulls and incense. The Seraphim Institute acted for a time as a guided day of her husband Steffen Publisher.
ISR Institute
(Image: ISR Institute Niddatal)
As director of the Institute founded by her Seraphim and the ISR Institute claims to be busy days with the study of electromagnetic fields and " photon energies ". The exact name of the ISR Institute is "institute for scientific research and diagnosis with magnetic resonance and photon energy." In ISR, invented by day "photon camera" for experimentation and so-called certificates ("ISR-seal") is used. Thus, for example, medical practitioners certified by the ISR. The scene outside the worthless certificate to prove an otherwise unknown "successful measurable energy field resonance and change". But products have been certified by the ISR.
For details, see main article ISR Institute .
Council of World Elders
Days established the so-called Council of World Elders (Cowe), which is to combine the "best representatives of native peoples." The objectives of the Cowe include receiving the support of charitable projects and local and global environmental protection, but also "maintaining and rebuilding of power places and cultural monuments," and the establishment of a museum.
Members of Cowe are known next day "plastic shamans" like Hunbatz Men - civil: Carlos Mena Toto - who poses as a Mayan priest, or by activities in the esoteric scene known persons (eg Galsan Tschinag). Another member of the Council is Dr. Masaru Emoto , the not in the category of 'indigenous peoples' representatives "heard. A lesser known member of the Council is Jorge "Coco" Vizcarra, who has lived 20 years in Germany and indigenous ceremonies sold (eg not in South America practiced sweat lodges or vision quest). [6] However, Vizcarra called simply, in other contexts as a "musician". [7]
The Cowe has also appointed several "Global Advisors", which currently (2012) as Nina Hagen is one, but Eva-Maria Mora and her husband, Michael Mora aka Michael Bear Hawk. With Drunvalo Melchizedek, civil: Bernard Perona, another long-established provider was made on the market for esoteric features. Perona "works" also with crystal skulls, to 2012 , Indigo children , the supposed planet Nibiru and conspiracy theorists .
Also include the coupling Author Armin Risi at the circle of Global Advisors, which published on the side of Kopp Verlag report on the first Congress of Cowe of day it is linked. Days but also even at Kopp published a book (see has plants ).
Karin Tag tried the word mark (copyright) "World Council of Elders" to log in Germany. This was rejected by the DPMA.
Questionable title
A (crystalskulls.com in this case) from numerous websites that adorn Karin day with a professor
Karin day as on numerous websites and in her books "Prof.hc. Dr.hc. holistic sciences" and "Dr. Karin Tag" dubs, which is said to have received from a "University of Oregon". [8] [ 9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] In one of her books to find the set
2007, Karin day for their research and development work in the field of photography and photons of holistic sciences by the Senate of the Oregon State CH. + University of Title Prof. hc. Dr. hc. Holistic Sciences, USA awarded.
The University of Oregon in Eugene awards but no such title. The "Title" actually comes from the company "Church and Oregon State University Inc.", located in Florida. [15] In order to be appointed a "professor" the company charges according to its own advertising $ 400. The degree mills -company failed even in the U.S., to register as a church (closer to this sham church in business-podium.com ). Tags on their websites no more references can be found on their fantasy title. "
Superdog
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Yet another rep defender service sent by Tag.
First them, then my reply.
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Hello,
It is revealing that you admit you do not know if your own client is telling the truth, and also admit you are not providing legal advice, you're just asking nicely.
Please ask Ms Tag to provide any evidence that her claims are true and not fraudulent.
We would accept either academic articles or accounts from actual respected Native activists, rather than the imposters she associates with.
We look forward to your response.
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And more bluster from the "Seraphim Team," likely Tag herself. Followed by my response.
There was also a second letter insisting she really really does have a lawyer. No, really. Honest.
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Dear Fraud Forum Team,
Everyone can present oneself as a Native American in your forum. Because the moderators do not care about truth nor facts. We are still waiting for any proof of native identity of the forum moderators. Please send your full name and postal address to our email address.
You refused to do any valid research concerning your false statements. You are not even willing to check K. Tags homepages with photos, movies, etc. We are still waiting for proofs concerning Hunbatz and K. Tags publisher. Anyway you didn’t ever met K. Tag neither her clients. This is the proof your intention is not doing researches about fraud activities. It seems your intention is to stop the help for native tribes. It seems you would like to stop K. Tag campaigns to save human rights of indigenous people. This means to stop helping Guarani people, non-contacted tribes in Peru, Australian Aboriginals, etc.
Kind regards
Seraphim-Team
Seraphim-Institut
Panoramaweg 27
61194 Niddatal
Germany
Tel.: +49-6187-290 553
Fax: +49-3212-7777 172
http://www.seraphim-institut.de/
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Ms Tag,
It's increasingly obvious it's just you and that you have no one working for you except a few reputation defender websites. And you're hiring them tells the world you are not a spiritual person but a con artist out to make money who fears losing that money.
It's also obvious you are either too afraid of losing your precious money, or too embarassed to admit you know so little, to ever answer any questions. That's why you refuse to provide any evidence you have ever helped anyone.
It's also obvious you are too lazy to read what's right in front of you. We have over 2000 members, mostly Native and from dozens of tribes.
If you knew anything about Natives you'd know no one gets away with falsely presenting themselves as what they are not for long. Natives have long experience in spotting fakes and frauds, something you could benefit from learning from us.
A two minute search of the site would tell you some of our members work in reservation government. Others are well known activists. Apparently reading Introductions is too much work.
It's also obvious you were too lazy to do two minutes of online research that would tell you Cesar Toto is a fraud, not a Mayan leader, with entirely non-Native followers, using the Gregorian calendar for his phony 2012 claims instead of a Mayan calendar.
You could also read the thread we have on him. We are used as a resource by thousands, from governments to universities to activists to average people.
You could benefit from learning from us, since you know so little you think crystals have anything to do with Mayans.
Please, write us some more. Every statement from you draws more attention to your ignorance and fraud.
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I personally don't CARE of the admins here are Native or non-Native. It's faking your ethnicity that comes off as dishonest. But this challenge for the admins to prove their own Native status shows that they miss the point. One doesn't have to BE a certain thing to accurate identify and critique others' misrepresentations of that thing too. A full-blooded white guy is just as capable of recognizing and faulting someone for exploiting, distorting, and commodifying Native ways. In fact, some have.
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hey i am 7/8 SRST plus 1/8 Oglala blood and live on my reservation
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It's all really simple, actually. The Wiki article on crystal skulls proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that anybody claiming to either possess or work with an authentic, centuries old crystal skull should have brown eyes 'coz they're full of, well, you know ... (not trying to dump on people who were born with brown eyes, obviously)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skull
LH
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Some background on the persons posing as „World Elders“ in Tags „Council of World Elders“.
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The ten „World Elders“ are: Hunbatz Men, Bob Randall (Australia), Galsan Tschinag (tribal head of Tuwa, Mongolia), Dr. Masaru Emoto, Karin Tag, Mohan Rai (Nepal – description says he is a „Kirati shaman“ from Bhutan, living in Kathmandu, founder of „Shamanistic Studies and Research Centre“), Maile Ngema Lama (Nepal – Tamang people, at Rai's Institute in K.), Swami Isa (India – founder of „Global Energy Parliament“, „Swami Isa Stiftung ~“Isa Viswa Prajnana Trust), Lama Tshewang Dorje (Bhutan), Don Pedro Guerra Gonzales.
It is quite obvious that Masaru Emoto, being Japanese, cannot claim to be an indigenous elder (but then again, neither can Tag who is a white German born 1969!, but is a „World Elder“ all the same).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaru_Emoto
Masaru Emoto (?? ?, Emoto Masaru?, born July 22, 1943) is a Japanese author and entrepreneur, best known for his claims that human consciousness has an effect on the molecular structure of water. Emoto's hypothesis has evolved over the years of his research. Initially he believed that water takes on the "resonance" of the energy which is directed at it, and that polluted water can be restored through prayer and positive visualization.
Since 1999 Emoto has published several volumes of a work titled Messages from Water, which contains photographs of water crystals, and their accompanying experiments.
Emoto's ideas appeared in the documentary "What the Bleep Do We Know!?". Like the film, Emoto's work is widely considered pseudoscience by professionals, and he is criticized for going directly to the public with misleading claims that violate basic physics, based on methods that fail to properly investigate the truth of the claims.[1][2]
The Talk section reveals intense efforts by supporters to have the article rewritten in a more „neutral“ way. Presently, it is categorized, among others, as „New Age writers“ and „Pseudoscientists“.
German Wikipedia uses the categories of „alternative medicine“ and „parascientists“:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaru_Emoto
Galsan Tschinag
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galsan_Tschinag
Galsan Tschinag (????????? ??????), born Irgit Shynykbai-oglu Dshurukuwaa (*26 December 1944 in Bayan-Ölgii Province, Mongolia) is internationally known as a Mongolian writer of novels, poems, and essays in the German language, though he hails from a Tuvan background. He is also often described as a Shaman, and is also a teacher and an actor.
Born in the upper Altai Mountains in western Mongolia, the youngest son of a Tuvan shaman, Galsan majored in German studies at the Karl Marx University in Leipzig, East Germany (1962-1968). He did his thesis work under Erwin Strittmatter, and upon graduation began to work as a German teacher at the National University of Mongolia. In 1976 his teaching license was revoked because of his "political untrustworthiness".
Today, the author spends most of the year at his home in the Mongolian capital city of Ulan Bator, together with his family of nearly 20. He also spends much time giving readings in the German-speaking world and across Europe, as well as seeking to get closer to his Tuvan roots in the western Mongolian steppes. Though he still writes mainly in German, his books have been translated into many other languages. In addition to his writing, Galsan is an activist for the Tuvan minority and practices shamanistic healing.
There are numerous websites documenting Tschinag's appearances at esoteric congresses and events as a shaman, like e.g.:
http://www.bpv.ch/content/referenten/Tschinaggalsan.html
This is the „Basel Psi Days“, a well established esoteric congress, where Tschinag will do a lecture.
Some more events for 2013:
http://foerderverein-mongolei.de/termine/
April 27, 2013: Seminar with Galsan Tschinag „Everything is in unity“. His very personal attention for every person seeking healing, his becoming one with the other's soul looking for healing make us realise the shamanic in his work. Info: Albert-Schweitzer-Haus Bonn-Bad Godesberg.
May 2, 2013: Seminar with Galsan Tschinag „West-Eastern Healing Ways“. He teaches shamanic and western techniques for treatment in personal usage. Place: Chiron School of Mysteries.
May 11, 2013: Workshop „Salvation, Healing, Hope“.
May 12, 2013: Workshop „Salvation, Healing, Hope“.
May 17-19, 2013: Congress „School of Spiritual Healing“, panel discussion and lecture with Galsan Tschinag.
May 25 and May 26, 2013: two workshops with Galsan Tschinag in Frankfort, no titles mentioned.
The website is maintained by „Förderverein Mongolei“ [Supporting Association Mongolia], closely cooperating with Tschinag's own foundation; they are a Germany-based association, so they are perfectly aware of where they sign up Tschinag. What's more, Tschinag is fluent in German, even writing books in German language, so he will not be mistakenly sent to events he does not mean to attend. All of the above organisers and institutions can be identified as esoteric, either from their name or their websites.
We already have several threads in which Carlos Mena Toto aka Hunbatz Men is mentioned, e.g. this one:
Hunbatz Men
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1035
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Although Karin Tag's concoction of alleged ndn spirituality and Newage garbage is weird and daft, she does in fact manage to attract students to her courses from all German-language areas. Her students come from Germany, Austria, and Switzerland.
All of her students are Newagers, combining this garbage with other Newage practices and/or pseudo-medical treatments and pseudo-scientific devices. Some of them have become resellers of Tag's inventions, offering the same courses as Tag does, apparently under an „authorisation“ at fixed prices, i.e. the same prices as asked by Tag.
GERMANY
Christina Kurth, 51491 Overath
http://lichtzentrum-kristall-quelle.com/
She is a „Bio-Energy Therapist“, a Crystal Skull Guardian Grade 3, and a salesperson for Provitec Water Filters and for Messrs Crystal Essence. She did her first seminar with Tag in 2010. Her list of Tag seminars reads:
2010
Crystal Skull Guardian Grade 1,
Crystal Skull Guardian Grade 2,
Initiation with the Atlantean Crystal Heart
Workshop Activation of the Atlantean Crystal Table and initiation into the Atlantean Priesthood
2011
Crystal Skull Guardian Grade 3
Workshop „Serpent of Light“ with the Atlantean Crystal Dragon and Initiation into the Mystery of the Inner Worlds of Earth
Atlantean Crystal Library, Intensive with crystal skull Corazon de Luz
Atlantean Crystal Library, Workshop Moon Table
Herbal Seminar
Heart and Soul Opening at the Atlantean Crystal Library
2012
Atlantean Crystal Library, Workshop Crystalline Man
Final course Crystal Skull Guardian Grade 3
Avalonic Crystal Guardian
Atlantean Crystal Library, Activating the Nasca Table and Opening of Nasca Oracle at the winter solstice 2012
Avalon's Light – journey to the stone circles of Avebury and Stonehenge and initiation of my Avalonic abilities
2013
Wirak Wayra – The white wind – ex as a shaman guardian of the earth
MasterCode of Universe – CodeMaster healing
She is a reseller of Tag's courses, in particular Crystal Skull Guardian Grade 1 and Grade 2. The Grade 1 will cost € 380 for 2 days, Grade 2 is priced at € 870 for 3 days.
Her further services are:
Crystal Skull Activations for humans, animals, and plants – one-on-one session € 100, remote session € 50.
Energetisizing of Rooms with my Crystal Skull Kandrur
Building of places/rooms of power with the help of the Serpent of Light, one-on-one session € 50
Since Tag shows some affinity to persons promoting right-wing conspiracy theories etc, her student Kurth links to sites promoting „New Free Energy“, and to Alpenparlament. This is a Swiss internet TV project which means to offer a platform for new and alternative healing methods. They also promote the issues of AIDS denial, anti-vax issues, various pseudo-scientific products. They have also done interviews and articles on pseudo-historic issues (300 fake additional years in the Middle Ages, Atlantis and Spaceships), on chemtrails etc. Kurth also links an interview with Michael König, who worked for Alpenparlament as an anchor, has considerable contacts to the extreme right and is involved with extremist right projects.
Beate Martina Klug, Sünzhausen
http://lichtzentrum-kristall-quelle.com/
Another reseller of Grade 1 and 2 courses.
Klug is also an alternative practician selling several pseudo-medical methods and also applies methods of „mental healing“ like readings of the Akasha chronicle, angel therapy, shamanism, Sai Shakti Healing, and Russian healing methods. She is further selling seminars on Merkaba, Reiki, and a Metamorphic method.
According to her CV, Klug was born 1957, first studied nutrition technology and held several jobs in this field. She became an alternative practitioner in 1994.
Her „qualifications“ to teach the Grade 1 and 2 seminars is her training as a Crystal Skull Guardian Grad 1, 2, and 3.
Ellen Piai
http://www.kinich-ahau.de/ellenpiai.html
Apart from being part of a Maya scam, Piai also did seminars with Tag. She was born 1970 and did several trainings in the field of pseudo-medicine, then became a Sun Priestess in the Maya Sun tradition of Venerable Mother Nah Kin with an initiation into the four elemants fire, water, air, and earth, and a shaman and mother of the New Era.
With Tag, she became a „Master Crystal Skull Guardian“, ordained at the Khufu pyramid and at Stonehenge as a mouthpiece for mother earth. She further claims to have been ordained into the Atlantean Crystal Library and to have been made a Mediator Grade 1 and Grade 2 by Tag to be a mediator between cosmos and earth.
Piai is also reselling the Crystal Skull Guardian seminars and does activations of places of power, sessions with a mediation crystal and a mediation amulet.
Ilka Mara'Rian aka Ilka Schneider, Herdecke
http://www.angelslight.de/17.html
Schneider seems to have done a multitude of „trainings“, among them meditation, astrology, channeling, Reiki, core-shamanism with Paul Uccusic, „Flower of Life“ and Merkaba with Drunvalo Melchizedek, Kryon School, a „Christus Avatar Schooling“, was ordained as an embassador of Altair, had a coming out as a Lightworker, and then did the Crystal Skull Guardian School.
Gudrun Hiegel aka Gudrun Ana Hiegel, Sinzheim
http://www.gudrunhiegel.de/home/zu-meiner-person.html
Hiegel is an alternative practician offering a range of pseudo-medical resp pseudo-psychological treatments like e.g. kinesiology, psycho-kinesiology, Hellinger's family constellations, Matrix transformation; she cleanses houses, bureaus etc, does hypnosis, is a trained energy healer, and a Crystal Skull Guardian.
Jan Denker of „Gesundheitshof“ (~ Health Farm)
http://www.gesundheitshofdenker.de/heilung/werdegang.html
On the premises Denker runs with his wife, they are selling various pseudo-medical treatments and operate a bed&breakfast.
According to his CV, Denker initially became a mechanic for farm machines, then obtained an engineer's title in Economics. Apart from Taekwon-Do, he did Reiki, energy healing methods, he did a training to become an alternative healer without taking the exam, opened a Taekwon-Do school, then went into Magnified Healing, sold Spiritual Management Coaching, had contacts to the beyond with Gordon Smith, and did Feng Shui and Geomancy. His latest fad seems to be inedia, as he did a seminar on Light Nourishment in 2013.
He further did a Shamanic Workshop with „Hopi Indian Ruben Saufki“, was trained by Karin Tag and Crystal Skull Corazon de Luz in 2010, and did „Awakening the Illuminated Hearth“ with Drunvalo Melchizedek in 2012. (Saufkie was a member of Tag's CoWE, while Melchizedek is on the CoWE Board of Advisors.)
Nicole Denker says she has been a holistic spiritual healer since 1996 and mentions Prana Healing, Magnified Healing, Prana Feng Shui, crystalwork, angel energies, working with ascended masters, dissolving of alien energies, channeling, clairvoyance, Feng Shui and Geomancy.
Judith Braun, Obertshausen
http://www.ganzheitliches-heilungscoaching.de/page14.php
According to her CV, Braun was born in 1961 and first worked as a Medical-Technical Assistant, but in 1995 became an alternative healer and opened up shop in 1996.
Among the trainings she mentions are homoeopathy, Kirlian diagnostics, Shiatsu, Spine Therapy according to Dorn, authorised as a seminar leader for autogenous training, Systemic-phenomenologic constellations, NLP practitioner, NLP master practitioner, Multidimensional Coach, hypnotherapy, Matrix Energetics, and last not least a Mediator of the Atlantean Crystal Library with Karin Tag.
Yi-Jiun Lin, Lahnstein and Berlin
http://www.lebensenergie-lahnstein-berlin.de/
According to her CV, Lin worked with „her spiritual teacher Gurdijeff“ in her homeland Taiwan, then moved to Germany at the age of 24 and did various trainings in Western spiritual knowledge. For a living, she seems to have worked with handicapped persons with whom she did sound massage, aquatic work and musical therapies. At the same time, she went into retrieval and channeling, and later did Merkaba meditation and learned shamanic healing methods.
Following her course of studies (apparently she studied to become a teacher for children with handicaps...), she did a training as a Waldorf teacher and taught Chinese. Later on, she did a training as a spiritual healer with Dr Brenda Davies and as a Crystal Skull Guardian with Karin Tag. Lin is also into Quantum Healing, Lightgrids, Hawaiian massage.
Elke Solve Maurer, Babenhausen
http://www.kryonschule-babenhausen.de/trainer.html
Maurer runs a Kryon School. Among the qualifications she is listing are: Crystal Skull Guardian Grade 1, 2, and 3, presently training to become an Avalonic Crystal Guardian and in herbal lore.
Further qualifications: Priestess of the golden priesthood, pioneer of the golden-blue frequency, master of bio-energy, bio-energy therapist, trainer of Kryon school, Raftan trainer, Magician of the New Era, Earth Healer of the New Era, healer of the synchronic frequency, grandmaster Reiki etc.
She claims she is doing seminars with Tag since 2010.
Irene Selina Simon, Deggendorf
http://www.heilkreis-deggendorf.de/18.html
In her CV, Simon states she was a student of Metatron School and is a Healer of the New Era, she is a Bio-Energy therapist and claims to have studied shamanic healing techniques.
She furthermore says she is an „Earth Healer according to Little Grandmother Keisha Crowther“! Simon also does Holistic Pulsing, Matrix Healing, Quantum Healing, Ho'oponopono, Animal Communication.
With Karin Tag, she became a Crystal Skull Guardian and a Mediator of the Lightworld.
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Edith Fuhrer-Huber, Auslikon
http://www.living-spirit.ch/about/
Fuhrer claims to do coaching, light therapies, mental training, mental healing, and Reiki which she sells at CHF 90 per hour. She also does crystal skull energy transmissions at CHF 30 per hour excluding and CHF 90 including a talk.
She claims:
Through the training and initiation as a teacher for Crystal Skull Guardians at the School of Crystal Skull Guardians of the Seraphim Institute of Karin Tag, I am authorised to train and initiate future Crystal Skull Guardians Grade 1 and 2 with my crystal skull Anamnur.
Rita Cortesi
http://ritacortesi.ch/Rita_Cortesi/Deutsch.html
According to her CV, Cortesi was born 1956 and first worked as a switchboard operator and shop assistant. She did various medial trainings, so e.g. with a Medial Centre Zurich, with PSI Centre Basel, with Energetic Mental Healer Graziella Schmidt etc, and seems to have started in 2005.
With Karin Tag, Cortesi did „Shamanic Rituals with Crystal Skull Corazon de Luz“ in 2009 and also visited „several places of power in Yucatan“ the same year. In 2010, she did Crystal Skull Guardian Grade 1, in 2011 „Atlantean Crystal Library“, in 2012 „Opening of Portals of the Moon Table with Karin Tag“.
Karin Bosshard, Ramsen
http://www.naturmagie.ch/meine-fussstapfen/
Bosshard has been an alternative practician since 2003, offering several pseudo-medical treatments, e.g. kinesiology, Biological Medicine, Holistic Healing according to Mauro Ambat, and she did seminars at the Arthur Findley College.
From 2012, Bosshard became a mediator at Seraphim Institute, an Avalonic Crystal Guardian of Earth, and did a seminar titled „Wirak Wayrak – The White Wind“ in 2013, which she specifies as a „Shaman seminar“. Bosshard presently is in training to become a Medicine Wheel Healer with Tag.
Her online shop is hilarious – Bosshard sells energy stones, colloidal silver, and „Water of the new energies“ --- a tiny bottle of 200 ml (about a glass) at CHF 30 (= USD 33), and an even tinier bottle of "crop circle essence with 15 ml at CHF 25 (= USD 27).
And this is rich. And disgusting:
Maria Elisabeth Meyer, Chur
http://www.lernberatung-chur.ch/lernberatung.html
Meyer runs a company offering „learning guidance“ for children, youths, and adults.... She is a teacher by profession and a Learning Facilitator with a diploma (or so she says), and is recognised by Swiss authorities to treat dyslexia as well as dyscalculia, ADHS, school refusal, exam stress, she gives educational guidance and guidance for parents.
At the same time, Meyer boasts her trainings with Karin Tag's Seraphim Institute and being authorised to train Crystal SkullGuardians Grade 1 and 2; she also owns a crystal skull going by the name of Man Lar Sum which she translates as „Gate to One-Being“.
In her ad for the Grade 1 training, Meyer states:
In order to work for world peace and the healing of earth, you will connect to the morphogenetic field of Earth.
You will learn to practice a sacred, traditional crystal skull ritual.
Meyer also advertises she is selling Aura-Soma products, Fostac products [a pseudo-scientific water cleansing system], aroma therapy products; she is also a salesperson for Crystal Water. She further sells crystal skulls at CHF 1 per gramme, generator crystals, and does energetising and programming of crystals.
According to her site, Meyer was a Primary School teacher and learned to apply NLP in school. Her latest addition to her professional qualifications is the „Mediator“, and this most probably does not have its usual meaning but refers to the fake mediator title handed out by Tag's Seraphim Institute.
Meyer also claims further trainings in aroma knowledge, anatomy/physiology, Aura-Soma Level 2+, work with crystals, meditation, Crystal Skull Guardian Grade 1, 2, and 3, Mediator Grade 1, 2, and 3 by „Seraphim Institute, Frankfurt, Karin Tag“, and Avalonic Training with the same institute.
Philipp Kupferschmid
http://www.shamanic-dream.ch/animal_whisper.html
Kupferschmid does „shamanic healing work“ with humans and animals. He seems to have started out as a mere dog trainer, though.
In his CV, he mentions he is presently in a training to become a shaman with Healing the Light Body School of Dr Alberto Villoldo.
For 2012, he lists eight trainings ranging from „The White Path – Ceremonies for Peace, journey to the pyramids of Yucatan“ to a day seminar with Master Shaman Shairy Quimbo „The Flight of the Condor“, „Colours in Shamanism“, and Aura-Soma.
For 2011, there are 5 seminars, among them Munay Ki Initiation and Initiation into the Line of Laika Shamans, a journey with Villoldo, another seminar with Angaangaq (we've got a thread on him, he is a plastic shaman, legal name Jens Lyberth, from Greenland).
For 2010, there are further 14 seminars, e.g. Ho'Opoponopono, shamanic soul singing, Aura-Soma, Family constellation, drum making. However, he also did five seminars with Karin Tag: Druidic Initiation in Stonehenge, Crystal Skull Guardian Grade 1, „Corazon de Luz and Maya priests from Mexico“, and „Ceremony for the peaceful activation of Europe, with Karin Tag & Hunbatz Men at Seraphim Institute“.
There are further trainings listed for 2009, 2007, and 2006, while in 2008, Kupferschmid claims to have done a nine-months-trip to Australia and New Zealand to *discover* the cultures of the „Aboriginis“[sic] and Maoris.
The only non-Newage seminars are listed for 2004, when he did 4 seminars on dog training (agility, companion dog, puppy school, school for young dogs).
Anja Kottenrodt-Grüter, Olten
http://www.liechtpunkt.ch/index.php?nav=portrait
Kottenrodt seems to be running a massage therapy practice she named „Joy“. She claims to have passed Secondary Grammar school and then did a course in Esalen massage and started a professional training as an Esalen massager in 1997. According to her CV, she started doing seminars with Karin Tag in 2012, in particular Mediator 1-3. In 2013, she finished a two-year-course in Trance Healing a the Aura-Mystica-School and now is in a position to offer Lomi-Lomi.
Zita Gfeller, Wil
http://www.hkbioenergetik.ch/bio/
Gfeller claims to be a Health Kinesiologist and did several additional trainings, e.g. in Quantum Entrainment, and as an Energetic Mediator with Karin Tag.
Nima Nicole-Maria Torri-Fricker, Mümliswil (Solothurn)
http://www.seelenwege.ch/nicole-maria_torri.html
Torri-Fricker does counseling. According to her CV, she started with Reiki in 1996, then did NLP Coaching (2002/2003), Hypno-Coaching (2003/4), Systemic Constellations (2003-5), Mental Healing (2005/6), Shamanism (Ayahuasca rituals in France) from 2005, Shamanic-Ayurvedic Massage 2006, autodidactic learning of drumming and soul singing from 2006, Energy Healing in 2007. In 2010, she did the Crystal Skull Guardian Grade 1 and 2, and from 2010 on, she is a student of the Healing the light body school of Villoldo.
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Manuela Müller, Hof/Salzburg
http://www.amelia.at/IchUeberMich.htm
According to her CV, Müller was born 1961 in Switzerland. She claims trainings in Reiki, Prana Healing, and Remote Healing. She has been working with healing stones since 2006.
Müller claims a training as a Crystal Skull Guardian with Karin Tag for Crystal Skull Energy Transmissions.
She is furthermore trained in Starcon Method, in Maya astrology, dowsing, and reading cards.
Michael Rupprich, Vienna
http://sterngeboren.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/quanten-alchemie/
Rupprich, born 1964, claims various trainings: e.g. Reiki 1, 2, 3, Aura-Soma, EMF Balancing Technique, Channeling, he is a Magenta Healer, did Starseed Workshops, is a Regression Coach, did Matrix Energetics Level 1 and Matrix Harmonics Level 1-3. He is also a Crystal Skull Guardian Grade 1 and 2.