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General => Research Needed => Topic started by: TheRebel on March 04, 2008, 04:59:45 am
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Alleghenny Lenape:
Redhawk45 (Eric Macuski)
In his statement of his membership at his group @ RNS http://www.rednationsociety.com/groups/?id=46&link=view_topic&topic_id=1663&group_id=46
Alleghenny Lenape
Category: American Tribes
Type: Public
Created: Oct 23, 2007
Members: 3
Views: 29
Location: Massillon, United States
Definition of this group or his Tribe as he puts it so well:
"This group is an online way of getting out to the thousands of Native Americans, no matter what tribe they are of. We definately accept those who are trying to find their geneology and are rejected from the Federal Recognized tribes. We are fighting to be Federally recognized, but we will NOT have such strict rules as other tribes do when that time comes.
Again, everyone is welcome...even if you are of another F. R. Tribe.
Some Rules: NO ONE harms another - meaning do not put someone down regardless of who they are. Two, Have fun! Those are the two main rules. I will post a comprehensive one as well.
Eric Red Hawk"
Further more membership is explained
POSTED BY: redhawk45 on Oct 25, 2007 [ QUOTE ]
Membership
Ok...Alleghenny Lenape isn't just a group, it is a fully functional state recognized tribe here in NE Ohio, with members stretching cross-country. It is majority Lenape (Delaware), but has members of other tribes within. Not adopted, but with a distinct tribal heritage that could teach all something. We are of one blood, no matter what.
There is no membership fee...we work only by the donations of members and others. There is a newsletter that goes out every season, email and postal. Whatever group activities there is are put together as a tribal unity....everyone contributes something, including if we have a powwow or gathering.
Battling to be federally recognized, it is hard when there isn't enough members to do so. A tribe only needs a church or some sort of center to be federally recognized...and as many members as possibly can with a voice.
Required is a geneological history (including photos) of your family. Be honest now. I believe some people can have a bad heart and tell lies, like so and so is related to Chief Corn Stalk...no one can REALLY trace it to a famous person in history EXCEPT a certain few...and they're already Federally Recognized.
You can email me at bearclaw45@msn.com if you are interested.
Eric Red Hawk
His official document: HR NO 155
(http://bp2.blogger.com/_sZFRmL0VHps/R8zVUvZaVxI/AAAAAAAAAFc/0vsuSgyMp4M/s320/249.jpg)
If we go to:
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/search.cfm
You will see a search That looks like this..
Search for Legislative Information
All bill searches will be for the current General Assembly session (2007-2008) unless otherwise noted.
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Find Bills by Bill Number
Bill Number:
House Senate Both
127th General Assembly (2007-2008)
126th General Assembly (2005-2006)
125th General Assembly (2003-2004)
124th General Assembly (2001-2002)
123rd General Assembly (1999-2000)
122nd General Assembly (1997-1998)
Back to Top of Page
Type in 155
Select House and select 123rd
What do you get ?
HB155
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=123_HB_155
SB155
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=123_SB_155
If you were to click the links both have nothing to do with State Recognition of a Tribe in Canton or Massillon Ohio, and guess what... no H.R. No.155
You can further the search through the house of representativess journal in pdf format.
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/JournalText127/HJ-10-04-07.pdf
And
http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/JournalText126/HJ-04-06-05.pdf
No HR 155. If this was an official binding document , it would of been listed.
Goes to show you how some groups in Ohio take a ceremonial only document and try to blow it up to some more than what it is.
Now lets take a quick little stroll over to :http://tribes.tribe.net/7thgeneration/thread/184f4e5d-3787-43a6-8df5-02ef88f96263
about the 7th Generation prophecy...topic posted Thu, October 20, 2005 - 2:18 PM by Unsubscribed
I have just read about such a prophecy just last week, and then I come onto tribe.net and find this group. Talking about a prophecy coming true.
I am the 7th generation and he 5th generation of Lenape here in Ohio. I believe in the old ways, and try to live my life as traditional as I can. I even made my own regalia...out of the traditional materials the People would have had before colonial contact.
Another reason why i believe in this is because a lot of my talents were innate. I learned to flint knap myself, learned how to bead, make weaponry, make clothing, drilling shells for beads, flute play and much more...without no one actually showing me nor from reading books about such. It was after the fact when I started reading the books available to us today which astounds me to this day. How did I know how to do all this stuff?
I have Spirit Dreams, or as some people call: visions. Many of them are just downright horrifying for the future. I cannot tell all, but I will say there will be a large war in the future between those who call themselves American Indian/Native American/etc and the Others who have no such blood. If we do not do something to help ourselves soon, we all will be wiped out!
I so much believe in the old ways that another Spirit Dream I had had told me that the sacred bundle needs to be reformed whole again. Anyone know what that means? From some research with the Shawnee, I know they have a piece of 'artifact' that they've had since who-knows-when. Those types of pieces, I believe are from the first Sacred Bundle which was passed down so, so, so long ago. I don't know if other tribes/nations has such an object to this day, since colonization and theft may have taken a lot, but could this be true? Should someone remake this sacred bundle 'from the ashes' and maybe unite the tribes/nations under one whole People with varied religions and cultures and beliefs? Could the bundle vary well be the key on helping us out?
I've rattled on enough already. All I know is that if something ain't done soon, I don't think there will be a future for the People of Turtle Island.
posted by: Eric
Re: about the 7th Generation prophecy...
Fri, October 21, 2005 - 12:06 PM
In this day and age, I've noticed more and more of the People are trying to reclaim old land rights long ago. Just recently the Eastern Shawnee of Oklahoma just filed a lawsuit against Ohio for land rights west of the Tuscarawrus River, which even includes the Shawnee Unitied Reminant Band who are State Recognized. One way I'm happy because the Shawnee URB were very rude to my mother and I, yet another is sad because the Shawnee URB worked hard to buy the property needed for their own.
As I stated, I'm a member of the Alleghenny Lenape (Delaware) tribe here in NE Ohio. They got their State Recognition back in 1999, but was a little too late to do anything about a Paleo Indian site that is now under real estate homes:(
Yes, the ancestors tries to guide us anyway they can, whether through visions/Spirit Dreams or by sending us signs or just plain out talks to us. I've had a Spirit Dream a LONG time ago...well, long time as in late 1998...lol. I was in this black void, floating. I can't remember much of it, but the area lightened up to a bright white, and supposidly I heard a male voice, with me asking him "Who are you?". He told me this (.... equals things I can't remember): "I am you, and I am not. I am First Man.........spiral is in chaos........". Then I was woke up by my alarm clock (which pissed me off because that probably was the reason why I cannot remember any more of the Spirit Dream).
I don't know if it was actually First Man, though in the Dream he told me he was. I was brought up not to lie, as is tribal custom, though even my mother back then didn't realize the significance of it until after we began diving into our heritage. Yes, even in my heritage it was the same as yours, and for good reason. It wasn't just to blend in and not be looked down on, but also so generations to come doesn't have to marry American Indian and live on reservations. Even whole tribes kinda blended in as well into the settlers society.
There is a major connection as to why we, as the 7th G, have these Dreams. I have a feeling that it is our duty, if elders will listen to us 'young people', in the future to unite the People and keep traditions, language, religion and cultures alive.
Eric Red Hawk
And Ther you have it another "group" born out of a piddley ceremonial only document from the state.
Some more ..
http://www.flickr.com/groups/native-collective/discuss/121141/
redhawk45 says:
Ngangche Macheu Meechgalenne, Untschi Alleghenny Lenape.
Translated, I am Red Hawk of the Alleghenny Lenape, Wolf Clan, here in NE Ohio. Full name of Eric Red Hawk Macuski. Being 'Native', as the one above me states, is just me. You can see me in the most newest pics with me and my wolf hide headdress.
I'm also decendant of Rev. Charlene Starwolf Eckelberry Macuski, of the Alleghenny Lenape, Wolf Clan, and Reverend of the Alleghenny United Indian Church, the first Native American Church here in NE Ohio.
I'm leader of the Wolf Nation Society, an off-branch society of the Alleghenny Lenape; Keeper of the Sacred Wolf Bundle of the People.
Basically I'm into many crafts: flint knapping, beadwork, leatherwork, carving...just about anything. I play the Native American Cedar 5 hole flute and soon will have a small band to start recording. My mother got me into photography, so I'm avid with that, whether I model for the camera or I take the pictures.
Being Native isn't just blood, it isn't just appearance...it is what you are in your spirit that counts the most.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )
For those that like to look at pictures. Heres a collection!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84814266@N00/73965718/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84814266@N00/73965716/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84814266@N00/73965715/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84814266@N00/73965713/
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This thread on another forum says he was convicted of stealing an artifact from an Ohio state forest:
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38056&page=1&pp=5
Is there anyone who can find out more about that from the Ohio state govt?
And this thread accuses him of impersonating an archaeologist:
http://msnusers.com/OhioLithics/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=63&LastModified=4675388920149862511
He graduated from high school in 1997:
http://www.massillonwhsaa.org/discus/messages/3/149.html?1093167636
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Barnaby , I'll see what I can come up with on these accusations. But knowing going from how groups in general operate, its more than likely these accusations hold some weight to them. When I get more info on this I'll post it out here.
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He was convicted for selling stolen artifacts and he does claims to be a archaeologists.
See if you can find the court documents Rebel. The conviction was in your home state (Ohio).
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Macuski looks extremely young, and I'd guess any heritage is very distant. He claims that he's technically an archaeologist since he's majoring in it. But even someone still in grad school, rather than an undergrad like him, knows to be careful about claims like that. Until you get that advanced degree and are hired, you can't make that claim.
Seems he's been accused of posting defamatory messages about an ex and making threats online to send her anthrax in the mail.
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/3339777528/fetch/23983
I'm not clear about Macuski's role in this group, Allegheny Lenape, who in some docs are a council and other a "tribe."
Nonprofit status says council.
http://www.taxexemptworld.com/organization.asp?tn=669585
ALLEGHENY-LENAPE INDIAN COUNCIL OF OHIO INC
PO BOX 7298
Canton, OH
44705-0298
Asset Amount 0
Income Amount 0
In Care Of Name
(the officer, director, etc. to whose attention any correspondence should be directed) LOIS M CROSTON
A geneology page has what is claimed to be the resolution doc discussed earlier.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosadove/DeeDovey'sPage/lenape.htm
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Looks to me like he is starting his own group. The only state recognized tribe in Ohio is the Allegheny Nation (Ohio Band). Lois Croston is a writer/genalogist of sorts from West Virginia. She has been living in Sharpe County (Canton/Massillon area for a while. I would take it that these are the same group. They did file a petition for federal recognation, but can't find if it is still on hold or denied as yet. He seems to stretch the truth or probably worse. The part about his parents having the "first" Native American Church is a stretch. I believe that was the Wyandots back in the 1800's and that closed. But not sure how he is interperting NAC. It would be interesting to know if the rest know what he is doing.
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Looks to me like he is starting his own group. The only state recognized tribe in Ohio is the Allegheny Nation (Ohio Band).
Lois Croston is a writer/genalogist of sorts from West Virginia. She has been living in Sharpe County (Canton/Massillon area for a while. I would take it that these are the same group.
They are the same group. She is rumored to be his aunt. I don't know how true this is. I just started looking into him after reading Beaderman's blog.
The Ohio and P.A. Frauds fraternalize heavily. I've been waiting on info.
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They have sent in 2 letters on intent for Petition for Federal Recognition, one in 1979 and one in 2005. Use the name Alleghenny Nation Indian Center (Ohio Band) Canton OH. No action.
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Macuski looks extremely young...
And extremely stupid! As TheRebel mentioned, he's posted photos of himself in his "regalia" on Flickr. This one's called, and I quote, "You...do not know...who you're MESSING WITH!"
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/34/73965718_80d0540885_m.jpg)
There's another one called "consulting the spirits", believe it or not.
He threatened more than one person in that forum you mentioned, Al:
I have filled the papers out. There is just so much info that it is taking a while to get a lawsuit going. But, then again, if no lawsuit happens, I'll just hire someone to do a job for me.
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/3339777528/fetch/23986
What a sad sack.
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Macuski looks extremely young...
And extremely stupid! As TheRebel mentioned, he's posted photos of himself in his "regalia" on Flickr. This one's called, and I quote, "You...do not know...who you're MESSING WITH!"
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/34/73965718_80d0540885_m.jpg)
There's another one called "consulting the spirits", believe it or not.
He threatened more than one person in that forum you mentioned, Al:
I have filled the papers out. There is just so much info that it is taking a while to get a lawsuit going. But, then again, if no lawsuit happens, I'll just hire someone to do a job for me.
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/3339777528/fetch/23986
What a sad sack.
I was looking at his Flickr pics a few weeks ago. The kid is dumb. Those threats can be considered "terroristic" and get him in a lot of trouble
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yep, but most of it is 2-5 years old, wonder what he been up to recently. aside frome starting his own tribe?
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His mother's name is Charlene "Starwolf" Eckelberry Macuski, Reverend of the Alleghenny United Indian Church not his ancestor as he says on that post but I can't find anything on the web about her or the church.
edit: A former member of one of the PA groups also told me he was busted for digging artifacts at some place called Prairie Lane in Adena grave mounds.
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Siyo everyone. I just recently found you and joined this group. I am a member at the Rednationsociety. This RedHawk45 I think was on the old rns. I am not aware of him joining the new one yet. Now I am battling a lot of fakes and have recently exposed a group called UCN of Arizona. I have a group I made just for exposing the truth. We are trying to clean up RNS and it is for the bridging of both Worlds because most of us are in both Worlds. We have struggled with both most our lives and want to educate the general public on facts. Any fraud exposed needs to be researched and backed up with facts before posting. I have been battling the New Age Cults and they are really angry with me in which I do not care. Any information anyone here has on people and groups, please let us know so we can do what we have to do?
There also is this man who claims to care about us and cleaning up the frauds but I have found he has other agenda's. He goes by the name of Beaderman or Frybreadbuns. If you know of him being here this is your heads up.
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Hmmmm I actually know Beaderman.....he's one of my close personal friends, and I find he exposes the truth very well actually, and from what I know of him, he has no secret agenda. We at NAU put alot of faith into Beaderman and his findings, and we fully support him in all he does. But, it does seem there are many 'others' out there claiming to expose truths merely to elevate their own personal status...which indeed would be a 'secret agenda' of such....not to mention a huge red flag in my humble opinion.
However I do find RNS is A Twinkie City, full of people claiming to be enrolled in one nation, and then switching to yet another as time goes on, due to being called out and checked up on. Stories seem to change to suit circumstance...as Im sure you are fully aware of.
Picking fights with other 'truth finders' sometimes is not the way. But what would I know...Im just a humble ndn woman.
Tsissy (NAU ~ Native American Unity)
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Incidently, the topic here was Alleghenny Lenape Group, Massillon, Ohio....not who Raven Crow is and what she does (this can be posted in Member Introductions) and lets all bash someone she does not like without reason, cause or evidence....but forgive me for pointing that out...I just felt it was necessary.
With respect,
Tsissy (NAU ~ Native American Unity)
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Does Matty know you are a fan of beadermans? He/she is acting like they have no clue and you have the same concerns as I do. Someone is lying and I am no ones fool. Got it?! Beaderman took my work and posted it as his own and I think there is a name for that? PLAGIARISM.
Well you are very wrong about RNS and as for fakes I have to question your authenticity and claims of this being an ALL INDIAN GROUP. I know beaderman to be no Indian at all and I have it all in his own words. If you are his close friend then why are you all taking fake NDN CARDS and not reporting it to the right authorities?
I e-mailed you before I saw this and please do not respond to my e-mails. I will also delete myself from this group because I do not believe in frauds and fakes. You claim to have 16,000 real Indians here and beaderman alone not being tells me that probably all of you are not. If there are any they are fooled and it is easy to fool via the internet huh.
Also, I want nothing to do with you or your other site because you post SSI numbers which is illegal and yes I will be reporting it. You can delete it now because we have a screen shots. Have a nice fake life and please stop playing Indian okay?
Tell Beaderman if I catch him on RNS i will report him to the police. Are you his girlfriend Jennifer Morfew? Never mind.
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Both need to take this off-line.
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I merely stated: The topic here was Alleghenny Lenape Group, Massillon, Ohio....not who Raven Crow is and what she does (this can be posted in Member Introductions) and lets all bash someone she does not like without reason, cause or evidence....but forgive me for pointing that out...I just felt it was necessary.
I meant no disrespect in my words and I am sorry you saw it that way.
With respect,
Tsissy NAU (Native American Unity)
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Just don't need a cat fight.
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Just a few things I came across while browsing this morning...
http://www.flickr.com/groups/native-collective/discuss/121141/
redhawk45 Eric Macuski says:
Ngangche Macheu Meechgalenne, Untschi Alleghenny Lenape.
Translated, I am Red Hawk of the Alleghenny Lenape, Wolf Clan, here in NE Ohio. Full name of Eric Red Hawk Macuski. Being 'Native', as the one above me states, is just me. You can see me in the most newest pics with me and my wolf hide headdress.
I'm also decendant of Rev. Charlene Starwolf Eckelberry Macuski, of the Alleghenny Lenape, Wolf Clan, and Reverend of the Alleghenny United Indian Church, the first Native American Church here in NE Ohio.
I'm leader of the Wolf Nation Society, an off-branch society of the Alleghenny Lenape; Keeper of the Sacred Wolf Bundle of the People.
Basically I'm into many crafts: flint knapping, beadwork, leatherwork, carving...just about anything. I play the Native American Cedar 5 hole flute and soon will have a small band to start recording. My mother got me into photography, so I'm avid with that, whether I model for the camera or I take the pictures.
Being Native isn't just blood, it isn't just appearance...it is what you are in your spirit that counts the most.
http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?AID=378146&T=1
Hey, I'm Eric Red Hawk Macuski, of the Alleghenny Lenope Tribe here in NE Ohio. I've began practicing with making mixes and such about 5 years ago, on an old Sonic Foundry SDML. I do have a Native American band here where I live, but we are very small and not well heard of right now.
Group Members
So far, it's just me. I have been trying to get a few extra members. A temporary member is Rhio Ginther of Wooster, Ohio, and her husband Adam. They are a part of my band...well, Rhio is, but other than that my mother, Charlene Starwolf, helps.
Hmmmmmmm!! Doesn't 'group' mean more than ONE??! lol
http://msnusers.com/OhioLithics/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=63&LastModified=4675388920149862511
Eric Macuski is claiming to be an Archaeologist and an Authenticator. He posted these and other fabrications on the PROS board. A partial list of his lies includes (1) that he holds a BS Degree in Archaeology (more on that later) (2) he is certified as an authenticator by Dr. Seeman and Mr. Harkness of Kent State University. He fabricated a fake letter and forged Mr. Harkness name to it. A copy of that post from PROS board is attached here as a word document. In addition, I can forward a jpeg of the letter in question where Eric Macuski forged Mr. Harkness signature (and misidentified him as "DR." Harkness, when in fact, Mr. Harkness holds a Master Degree not a Phd.
Also, I will point out that this is NOT a case of carrying over a quarrel from another forum. Eric Macuski advertised his 'services' as a commerical authenticator here on THIS board. In the first post of the message thread titled: Searching for any Ohio artifacts...4/17/2002, Eric Macuski had this to say:
"I'm a very reliable guy, with many references. I even do COA's, and that is good coming from an archaeologist like me for $11.00 per artifact."
So, you see, Eric Macuski is claiming here on this board as well that he is an archaeologist. Yet in a recent post to Osceola, he says he is attending Kent State Univeristy Stark Campus. The Stark Campus does not offer graduate degrees. In other words, if Eric Macuski already has a BS, then he could not be continuing his education at the Stark Campus. If you read the message thread titled "Note to Ohio Collectors", you will see where Osceola asked him several times to tell the truth in plain words about his claims, including his claim to have a BS degree. However, Eric Macuski refuses to answer.
At any rate, I have decided to do whatever I can to make sure no one is ripped off by this guy claiming to be an authenticator and an archaeologist. Anybody wanting additional information, please email me at chipolaman@yahoo.com
Charles Ray
http://forum.lenapeindians.com/_disc1/0000008b.htm
Eric Macuski: "I'm a member of the Alleghenny Lenope Nation in Canton, Ohio"
Hey Eric! I thought you said you were a member of the Blue Wolf Band of SHAWNEE Indians! Now you're a member of the Alleghenny Lenope Nation. What are you really? Like a member of the Heinz 57 Wannabe Tribe of Fantasyville in the State of Denial?
HAR HAR HAR!!!!! Your old Buddy Charles Ray
http://www.flickr.com/people/84814266@N00/
Eric Macuski. male, kissing, cows, licking, american, nude, farm, duck, native, mallard. View friends. View friends of. Similar users. Comment wall ...
I'm a Native American artist who is into a wide variety of arts. I'm open-minded and see almost anything as art. I'm a photographer and a model, so you may see some of my photos with me in it. Also, sorry if I offend anyone, but I do have artistic nudes. I set these to friends only to view them, while other photos are public. If you'd like to see the artistic nudes, please let me know.
I'm Male and Single.
Massillon, USA /
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84814266@N00/
http://groups.msn.com/rocksmineralscollectingtrading/rockhoundguestbook.msnw
Redhawk45 Eric Macuski Massillon, OH Archaeology, Paleontology, Gemology, Geology bearclaw45@msn.com
I'm just a good ole collector living up here in NE Ohio area. I run a business with my mother, who is really into gemstones and sells them. I also run my own groups page: http://groups.msn.com/WorldofArtifacts . Please visit both and let me know what you think. I collect fossils, artifacts, and all types of display and rough gems and minerals.http://motherearthsgems.excitewebpages.com
ERIC MACUSKI: Caution if dealing with this guy!
Guys, be very, very careful if dealing with Eric Macuski of Massilon (or wherever he is currently residing) Ohio. Eric Macuski is a CONVICTED ARTIFACT THIEF! Yep, he was convicted by the State of Ohio for stealing an artifact from a State Forrest and -get this- POSTING ABOUT IT AND BRAGGING ABOUT IT ON THE INTERNET!
He also offered to sell the artifact on the internet. If he had actually succeeded in selling it and shipping to someone from another state, he would have had a FEDERAL violation on his record. As it was, he got off with only a Misdemeanor.
About 18 months ago, Eric Macuski started posting on an artifact collecting board that he was (1) An Archaeologist (2) a Certified Artifact Authenticator with (3) a letter from a Professional Archaeologist he incorrectly identifed as "Dr. Harkness".
The point is that Eric will LIE and fabricate credentials. Plus, he does not listen to reason and experience when warned that what he was doing was illegal. If he'll stubbornly refuse to heed good advice in one area (artifacts), I doubt he'll show much better judgement in others, such as reptile collecting/keeping. In other words, be VERY CAREFUL if you consider entering into any transactions with this guy or you might find yourself a material witness in some sort of legal case due to Eric Macuski's rank disregard for the law and lack of common sense.
Charles Ray
The above can be found:
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38056
My apologies if I have repeated anything already posted...
With respect,
Tsissy
Ooooopps I screwed up on the quoting thing :( I hope it's readable! Sorry
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I see many 'Natives' on this site loves to talk behind someone's back, not even finding me, messaging me up, so I can tell the other side of this messed up story.
I am no fraud, as "The Rebel" a.k.a. Charles Ray from Alabama, had brought up. He has stretched the truth beyond normal comprehension, has been a hacker of many websites, including Arrowheadforums.com, and has a vendetta against me because I showed him up on another artifact board and had him investigated of his computer hacking (unfortunately, due to Alabama laws, he couldn't get convicted of stealing artifacts from sacred mounds).
I was NEVER convicted of anything, except returning an artifact that I had found in the local garden of the Ohio Civilian Conservation Corps. The Manager 11 years ago, when I worked there, told me I could have it. Charles Ray, stretching lies and truth, told the Ohio Forest Service and they requested the point back. I never stole from any mound - mounds are sacred and everything found in them should be put back. I was never put in jail, never had any fine, period.
Proof of Charles Ray "The Rebel" hacking is seen on Ashes to Ashes, Rhio Porter (now Ginther)'s site she doesn't go to anymore. She had banned him once, and he came back. She actually had a website shut down because of this man.
As to the Alleghenny Lenape/Alleghenny Indian Center, my mother (not aunt, but I am a decendant from her) and I was battling to get the tribe to stay together, even if it meant restarting it. Apparently, it needs to be restarted, since 5 websites out of 6 had nothing about the Alleghenny Lenape. Mr. Meier, Jr., will be contacted, seeing his signature was on that paper, so we can find out what to do to reinstate the Alleghenny Lenape. Samuel Kennedy, former 'chief' disappeared, taking many people's cash and ran. Once adopted, always adopted, we believe...unless another tribe wants to adopt us, then we'll give it up due to tribes laws.
Do not call me a wannabe. I have 1/16th in me, the last to have any Native Blood before it gets washed out. How many of you have done a DNA test? hmmm??? Paid out $225 bucks? My mother did. True, we don't have Lenape at all within us, but we were adopted. We do have Alaskan Athabaskan, Shawnee and Cree, with my mother having 1/8th within her. We may NEVER get to be Federally Recognized due to blood quantum that these tribes still do when the Federal government discarded that blood quantum, but we can at least become State Recognized.
I am not as young as you all think I am...I am going to be 29 this month (July), been through hell and back due to the incompetent people who wants to accuse me of this and that, slander my name into mud, and put my mother down. A true Native American would NEVER put an elder down. She's 63 years old, IS recognized as a reverend and can marry within the state of Ohio. The church is disenfranchised as of right now due to the illegal loss of land, but the Alleghenny United Indian Church is still around, is still real...and it is the ONLY Native American Church in NE Ohio (look it up and search). We don't have the cash to make a website on the subject...why should we? Churches are mainly for local people. Would you belong to a church several states over? My mother's church mixes Christianity with traditional beliefs of all tribes - it doesn't discriminate one bit.
My mother and I are not fakes or frauds. As a man I knew once told me, you all should take into effect "Get it from the Horse's Mouth".
As to this thread, I ask it to be removed, since "The Rebel" isn't here no more - typical of Charles Ray to post and run. I have spoken the truth, and if you have ANY questions, or even have any ideas how to get the Alleghenny Lenape reinstated (the process to put it back as State Recogized), you can email me: bearclaw45@msn.com.
Eric 'Red Hawk' Macuski
PS: Though, I did think it funny about my mother suppose to be my aunt and somehow a request to return a point turned out like a game of telephone to be stretched into like I robbed a sacred mound!
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Mr. Macuski, you'll have to do better than that. You are very young (more so in attitude than chronological age), so we will make allowances for that, but you need to learn better manners and ways of doing things than simply making demands.
We don't remove threads simply because someone is uncomfortable having their claims put to the test. Both you and Rebel's words will stay here and people reading this thread can decide for themselves who is telling the truth.
Your claims of an Anti Macuski Conspiracy are pretty silly. Rebel was far from the only one to post information about you.
Incidentally we have a thread in here on DNA testing you should look at. The tests vary greatly in their quality and what they are able to prove.
You probably should also take a look at threads in here on state recognized "tribes." State recog is often worthless since states usually have no standards or legal grounds to recognize tribes (only the feds have that) and officials often issue "recognition" to pander for votes or get tourist dollars.
It was good of you to admit you are not Lenape except by alleged adoption, which in actual tribes would not mean much beyond you being expected to uphold a high standard of behavior. And your history of threats against seemingly everyone you meet does not say much about the standards that alleged tribe seems to hold.
Could you clear up for us just what your role is in this alleged tribe/group?
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To my knowledge Charles Ray and "The Rebel" are not the same person.
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My threats, as you say they are, are only towards Charles Ray and his band of misfits who frequent an artifact board called Arrowpack, but who are banned from so many other artifact forums because of his misconduct and not letting an issue drop. True, 5 years ago or so I was VERY pissed off at him, always following me everywhere I go. I even had an MSN group hacked into and inevitably I had to take down because of him.
And I was not making any demands upon here, just asking for it to be taken down. I have consulted lawyers about Charles Ray and his slander, and every single forum he posts at is just another strike against him. He was quiet for the longest time, and now he apparently got bored and decided to pick up where he left off.
My 'role' as you point out, to the Alleghenny Lenape, would just be an artist, nothing more. If my mother and I could get it back up to State Recognition, we would request over and over for the Federal Government to make it Federally Recognized, since Sammy Kennedy and Lois Croston was so lazy in their efforts. If a tribe wants to become Federally Recognized, they must fullfill the requirements and have the enthusiasm needed to push this fully. The Shawnee URB clearly doesn't have much enthusiasm except for wanting to buy State and Federal Land (like Serpent Mound), thinking that would help them become Federally Recognized, which it wouldn't. Land size has nothing to do with getting Federally Recognized. When we were adopted to the Alleghenny Lenape, my mother had requested information from the government about how to get Federally Recognized, so we know the steps needed to do so. As to leadership, it would be based upon a council of elders, most likely women (being traditional as it can be), not just one man scamming everyone and taking their cash and running. I ask that if anyone knows this Samuel Kennedy's whereabouts, to let me know. He not only stole money, but stole tribal rolls that was for everyone to know.
Oh, I understand about State Recognition...but from our knowledge it's a part of the steps you need to take to become federally recognized.
As to DNA...I know what you're talking about. But the lab was a professional lab - apparently the only one in the U.S., who had many cultural DNA's on file, was able to figure it down to a certain tribal group. They outright said in email that my mother was 1/8th Native American, with the rest being of European decent, which makes me 1/16th. True, I am thinking of getting myself tested as well - especially since I never knew my father and it would at least tell me something about him. Overall, with that test and email in hand - their lab would outright be in jeopardy if they lied, and could easily be shut down due to their hardcore persistance that it is the absolute truth. My mother got it done through DNAtribes.com.
To Frederica: The Rebel is the same as Charles Ray mainly because he used a similar email address in the past with the same title.
Eric
Mr. Macuski, you'll have to do better than that. You are very young (more so in attitude than chronological age), so we will make allowances for that, but you need to learn better manners and ways of doing things than simply making demands.
We don't remove threads simply because someone is uncomfortable having their claims put to the test. Both you and Rebel's words will stay here and people reading this thread can decide for themselves who is telling the truth.
Your claims of an Anti Macuski Conspiracy are pretty silly. Rebel was far from the only one to post information about you.
Incidentally we have a thread in here on DNA testing you should look at. The tests vary greatly in their quality and what they are able to prove.
You probably should also take a look at threads in here on state recognized "tribes." State recog is often worthless since states usually have no standards or legal grounds to recognize tribes (only the feds have that) and officials often issue "recognition" to pander for votes or get tourist dollars.
It was good of you to admit you are not Lenape except by alleged adoption, which in actual tribes would not mean much beyond you being expected to uphold a high standard of behavior. And your history of threats against seemingly everyone you meet does not say much about the standards that alleged tribe seems to hold.
Could you clear up for us just what your role is in this alleged tribe/group?
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"To Frederica: The Rebel is the same as Charles Ray mainly because he used a similar email address in the past with the same title."
No the Rebel wasn't this Charles Ray, I know this for a fact. If you hired lawyers to fight slander against someone who never did it..well you've got more problems than you think!
In fact you might want to look real close right in your own neighborhood, you'll figure out the answer. Maybe.
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If you know this as a fact, why are you so elusive on giving a name to this "The Rebel"? And the slander wasn't on this forum...others and more.
And you're not scaring me any...there's no one in my neighborhood that's evil like that. As the matter of fact, you REALLY don't know my neighborhood as I do. Keep your empty induendos to yourself, or bring the proof out - either here or in my face, since you think you know exactly where I live and this "The Rebel". Your turn.
Eric
"To Frederica: The Rebel is the same as Charles Ray mainly because he used a similar email address in the past with the same title."
No the Rebel wasn't this Charles Ray, I know this for a fact. If you hired lawyers to fight slander against someone who never did it..well you've got more problems than you think!
In fact you might want to look real close right in your own neighborhood, you'll figure out the answer. Maybe.
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If you know this as a fact, why are you so elusive on giving a name to this "The Rebel"? And the slander wasn't on this forum...others and more.
And you're not scaring me any...there's no one in my neighborhood that's evil like that. As the matter of fact, you REALLY don't know my neighborhood as I do. Keep your empty induendos to yourself, or bring the proof out - either here or in my face, since you think you know exactly where I live and this "The Rebel". Your turn.
Eric
Let me stop this right here, before it goes any further. Any personal feud you two have should be taken to private emails.
As I said before, Mr Macuski, Rebel is far from the only person to post information here about you and for you to dismiss everything as some big plot only makes you look paranoid.
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Actually, from me reading all the posts, most of the information came from searches people have done on their own...those still not sure who I am, what my objective is, etc. The only person who started this thread was The Rebel.
I will admit this...I even thought it strange why the H.R. 155 Resolution paper isn't on the websites. I did my own checking even before you guys did...but I dismissed that fact - until you all brought it up again. Right now, I'm battling trying to get a hold of Former State Rep. Mr. Maier Jr. to "get it from the horse's mouth", and see if he knows about this resolution paper. If he says it's legitament, then I'll be asking why it isn't on the websites. If it isn't, then I'll personally see to helping him find Samuel Kennedy and arrest that man for forgery (or at least fined).
I'm not the only one who swears he is Alleghenny Lenape. Myspace has a guy in Newark, Ohio, who says he's Alleghenny Lenape to this day, yet where IS Sammy Kennedy, the former 'chief'?
If this Tree hugger wants to email me, he can message me up here or (I think) my email will show up in my profile - should.
Eric
If you know this as a fact, why are you so elusive on giving a name to this "The Rebel"? And the slander wasn't on this forum...others and more.
And you're not scaring me any...there's no one in my neighborhood that's evil like that. As the matter of fact, you REALLY don't know my neighborhood as I do. Keep your empty induendos to yourself, or bring the proof out - either here or in my face, since you think you know exactly where I live and this "The Rebel". Your turn.
Eric
Let me stop this right here, before it goes any further. Any personal feud you two have should be taken to private emails.
As I said before, Mr Macuski, Rebel is far from the only person to post information here about you and for you to dismiss everything as some big plot only makes you look paranoid.
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Let me clarify a few things. I wasn't trying to scare you or anything of the sort Redhawk. It's just that the person you think this is, is not. Maybe my posting style doesn't fit with this board or something. I did not post to cause any problems.
I did not give the Rebel's full name because I don't believe in that. If someone has their name/claims on the internet then fine they should expect questions to come up. Unlike him I don't post personal information that isn't out there already.
I think this will be my last post on this site unless the thread about me is dredged up again.
If you want to contact me privately, that's fine. I don't mind.
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Let me clarify a few things. I wasn't trying to scare you or anything of the sort Redhawk. It's just that the person you think this is, is not. Maybe my posting style doesn't fit with this board or something. I did not post to cause any problems.
I've never had a problem with anything you've posted here, you are welcome. Please don't allow this Macuski character to bluster you into leaving.
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I am still confused about the Alleghenny Lenape'. Since Eric was adopted into this Tribe, maybe he could give us a short history. We know they just don't spring up over-night. The Communities and/or Tribes usually go back to the 1700 or 1800's and beyond. I would be sure the family that adopted you gave you some of the history of the group.
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I know of some of the history and what was written on this resolution document (which I'll be finding out on Monday by calling the Ohio House of Reps Clerk to 'request a copy'. If they find it, it's real; if they don't, then Sammy Kennedy somehow forged and faked a State document), which does have a gold embossed seal of the Ohio House of Reps. on the original.
On the document, it states that the Alleghenny Lenape have lived in the Stark County region of Ohio, their traditional hunting grounds since the 1700's (which makes sense, since the Lenape were pushed ever westward). I guess you can say that Samuel Kennedy adopted us, and I did do the research on the Kennedy family of his, coming up that they came from the extreme western PA into NE Ohio area. I even confirmed someone else's geneology to stem from Sammy's great grandparents, proving that the Sammy's family was inter-married with the Lenape. True, Sammy wouldn't exactly be full-blooded at all...possibly 1/8th like my mother.
My mother and I were adopted 5 years ago, via Sammy Kennedy, and (unfortunately due to desperation on my mother's end of wanting to belong to a tribe) paid membership fees of $30 bucks each. At the time, I figured it was a way of members to have to donate to support the food baskets and 'bake sales' they had. Throughout that time, my mother has tried 3 times to give good ideas to Sammy: 1) push the petition for Federal Recognition; 2) create a member directory for members to keep in contact with one another; and 3) to produce a church (for which my mother became a reverend and has the license to marry people within the State of Ohio) to hopefully benefit the tribe and look better to the Federal govt. (this latter we gave loads of flyers to Sammy, of whom never passed them out). Every single idea was pushed away. It was in 2006, when we paid our membership again, is when I seen his loads of medication sitting on the desk, and him pocketing the cash in his own pocket. He even told me that he didn't know how long the tribe would hold up due to losing members.
All I can think of is "Duh! Of course we're losing members! No gatherings, no ceremonies, no actual elders who might know the legends and culture. How do you expect to keep a tribe together without those elements?"
Anyhow, we went back last year to pay dues, and the Alleghenny Indian Center (as it was called in the phone book) was gone. In it's place was some biker shop selling various things. My mother had done a search on the web for Samuel Kennedy, coming up with two sources. One phone number came up with the wrong person, and another was disconnected. Samuel stole cash, stole membership rolls (with all the people's personal information), and even abandoned the tribe.
Also, during all this time, I was learning the language all by myself out of a couple English/Lenape dictionaries, doing research on the Lenape, all to possibly get the tribe to what it should actually be and present all the info to Sammy. Sammy MAY have known all this info, he may have not...we will not know at all what he knew.
This tribe is all the NDN people have in NE Ohio, in truth; it's all my mother has to feel like she belongs to a community of some sort. Though scattered, the Alleghenny Lenape members are still that, but it's trying to bring them together again, under a true council and to bring in what was lost. It's hard to do research all by myself...lol.
Eric
I am still confused about the Alleghenny Lenape'. Since Eric was adopted into this Tribe, maybe he could give us a short history. We know they just don't spring up over-night. The Communities and/or Tribes usually go back to the 1700 or 1800's and beyond. I would be sure the family that adopted you gave you some of the history of the group.
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Well, it appears you may be a person of Ndn heritage, but I don't believe your group meets the criteria of a "Tribe". It appears more of a Heritage Group, which is fine. Some of the heritage groups I have seen meet, have social occasions, learn the culture, help in the community, they may or may not have some alliance with the Recognized Nation. A lot of them function as non-profit organizations. They will never be a tribe as they do not nor have ever had the political and cultural structure need to meet the criteria. The ones that I admire the most are the ones that do not feel they are entitled to Ndn monies. These people just try to learn and are proud of their heritage. They expect nothing more.
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I am pissed off at Sammy for what he did. Yes, the Indian Center part was a non-profit organization, but the cash he got went straight to profit his own pocket and not help the members who came to him for help.
Due to his stupidity, my mother pretty much has to start from scratch with rolls, and this time form a community like it should have, even if Sammy, or whomever, petitioned to the Federal Govt. twice (most recent being in 2006). Though, if what you say is true, I completely understand why there hasn't been any progress to get the Alleghenny Lenape Federally Recognized. Sammy should have listened to my mother, but I think by the time we were adopted, he was becoming bored with being 'leader'; but even so, he should have held a meeting of elders or something to pass on leadership to someone else. 2 years before Sammy disappeared, my mother was worried that if Sammy disappeared or died, that who would take over the functions? Pretty much my mother's worries were real.
Wish my mother (and I, since I'll be doing most of the research) luck with forming this 'tribe' into a true community and gaining back members! My mother and the Alleghenny Lenape are gonna need it.
Eric
Well, it appears you may be a person of Ndn heritage, but I don't believe your group meets the criteria of a "Tribe". It appears more of a Heritage Group, which is fine. Some of the heritage groups I have seen meet, have social occasions, learn the culture, help in the community, they may or may not have some alliance with the Recognized Nation. A lot of them function as non-profit organizations. They will never be a tribe as they do not nor have ever had the political and cultural structure need to meet the criteria. The ones that I admire the most are the ones that do not feel they are entitled to Ndn monies. These people just try to learn and are proud of their heritage. They expect nothing more.
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Update:
I just called the Ohio House of Representatives Clerk today, and found out some VERY interesting things. Apparently there is such a thing as a yearly state recognition, where that same resolution H.R. 155 was just recognizing the Alleghenny Lenape for a year. Meaning, Sammy should have followed up with the local State Rep. to get a bill passed to make the Alleghenny fully State Recognized, but never did. (Apparently Sammy Kennedy was a lazy liar. Lazy because he never followed up, and lied to many members saying that the tribe was state recognized, when it was recognized for only the years of 1999 - 2000). Now I understand why Mr. Maier Jr. said there are different levels of State Recognition. That is why the resolution isn't on the computer, it's just in their own computers as storage.
The Alleghenny Lenape are not fake...and the fraud in all this was Samuel Kennedy.
Because of this information, I'll be doing my research to try to find those who were members under Sammy Kennedy and to bring them back, as a community, and so the community can be recognized by the state permanently, a step to becoming Federally Recognized. On top of that, it's prudent to save any kind of culture that is left with the Alleghenny Lenape. I know some information has been lost permanently, and I hate for the Alleghenny Lenape to adopt other Lenape customs (like some tribes out west, whom lost certain things, regain and adopt it from other tribes), but it looks like it might happen.
There's a long road ahead to make the Alleghenny Lenape into a real community again...and I ask for anyone (since even people have different search engines) to help with any information about Lenape culture, legends, and even perhaps the whereabouts of Samuel Kennedy and/or of other Alleghenny Lenape members, please PM me.
Eric
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It sounds as though that recognition is more like a certificate or a formal thank you. "The state recognizes group X for their pride in promoting their heritage or contribution to the state economy by drawing in tourists." A true recognition would be the start of a formal govt to govt relationship, which under the Constitution is solely a federal matter.
It's not a bad thing to be a heritage group, and to become a community again is work that will take generations. Keep in mind there are some Lenape groups in that region of the country that have less than ethical leaders. We've received numerous questions about them and have several threads on them.
There's also a yahoo group that might interest you, Ancient Native Heritage, led by a Lenape woman, Bee Neidlinger, who is an oldtime AIMster.
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Yea, it sounds like it. As I said, now I understand why Mr. Meier Jr. said there's different level of State Recognition, and this must have been the lowest of all the State Recognized levels:P
I believe that the Alleghenny Lenape will have it's times, especially when it's going to be our job to re-group all the members, convince them that they won't be scammed like Sammy did, create laws and rules, etc. It very well could take generations, and if I ever have a child (to one who has NDN blood), hopefully he/she would help the community out.
I'll check out that yahoo group. If she's a part of AIM, plus Lenape, plus is considerate of those with 1/8th to 1/16th blood, perhaps she'll help my mother and I out with advice and information.
Thank you for your info, though...and again, if you can do any research on the whereabouts of Samuel Kennedy, of what might have happened to him, etc., please let me know so I can tell that to my mother.
Eric
ALSO, if everyone/anyone could take a look at the new website for the Alleghenny Lenape and let me know how it looks, etc., possibly give some advice (add or take away, etc). Thanks!
www.freewebs.com/alleghennylenape
It sounds as though that recognition is more like a certificate or a formal thank you. "The state recognizes group X for their pride in promoting their heritage or contribution to the state economy by drawing in tourists." A true recognition would be the start of a formal govt to govt relationship, which under the Constitution is solely a federal matter.
It's not a bad thing to be a heritage group, and to become a community again is work that will take generations. Keep in mind there are some Lenape groups in that region of the country that have less than ethical leaders. We've received numerous questions about them and have several threads on them.
There's also a yahoo group that might interest you, Ancient Native Heritage, led by a Lenape woman, Bee Neidlinger, who is an oldtime AIMster.
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Eric
ALSO, if everyone/anyone could take a look at the new website for the Alleghenny Lenape and let me know how it looks, etc., possibly give some advice (add or take away, etc). Thanks!
www.freewebs.com/alleghennylenape
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just a quick note...checked out the website....noticed the disclaimer
-----from www.freeweb.com/alleghennylenape
Disclaimer
The Alleghenny Lenape Indian tribe is a REAL tribe, a REAL community, contrary to a certain NAFPS site (a mostly Anti-Indian Hate Group site with white supremacists) who wants to put ALL unrecognized (and some recognized) people who have NDN heritage down, calling them all non-native, due to that we don't live on reservations, don't get federal money, and because we are united for a common cause.
Do not let people like these scare you away. The Alleghenny Lenape are here to help those of NDN ancestry, taking nothing and giving all we can to the community.
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Pretty interesting description of NAFPS.
Guess you really did miss all that was said to ya. Sorry Eric. Even though you've said you seem to make sense out of my posts and not others....you really haven't gotten anything I've said.
If you really want advice....take down the website...start it over. Be real about things. A non-profit organization is not a tribe. A tribe is not a non-profit organization. Which one are they??? It's gotta be one or the other. Take a side and stand by it.
Being real would be saying "We are a non-profit organization dedicated to the acknowledgement and preservation of the community of descendents of the Alleghenny Lenape. We are not a federally recognized tribe and we will never be, but that doesn't mean we can't continue to come together as a community to celebrate our collective heritage."
Tryin' to help man....but you're still gettin' it all wrong.
Superdog
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The site's not coming up for me. Perhaps the other ALI members became upset at his using the site's diclaimer for a temper tantrum and saying such bizarre falsehoods about us. Somehow we went from being all fullbloods and all enrolled out to get the unenrolled, to being white supremacists? Hopefully they'll avoid letting him post any more nonsense, and the kid will learn how to take criticism without exploding and spouting conspiracy theories less credible than "Hitler invented flying saucers".
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sorry there's a typo in my post. Should read
www.freewebS.com/alleghenylenape
The site still works. You'll find it created and run by Eric. Apparently the staff consists of him and his mother at this time.
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again...the typos...my goodness
www.freewebs.com/alleghennylenape
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Looked at the page. Geez, can you get more cheesy and stereotypical? Objectified, come-hither Wolf maiden, and
"We run like the wind.
We are the wild Native Indians."
Pass the barf bag.
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Well, again his history is flawed, or he just uses what he wants. It's a good way NOT to present research. He leaves out very important elements. The rest of it is just talk.
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ALSO, if everyone/anyone could take a look at the new website for the Alleghenny Lenape and let me know how it looks, etc., possibly give some advice (add or take away, etc). Thanks!
www.freewebs.com/alleghennylenape
Hi Eric. I did take a look at your website. Any possible advice I might have would focus on your identity claims here http://www.freewebs.com/alleghennylenape/tradingpost.htm
Eric Red Hawk Macuski is an accomplished artist and flute player of Athabaskan/Shawnee/Cree ancestry. His artwork is of high quality, and it shows in every single piece he makes. All his work is Native American inspired. He can make almost anything, as is seen in the examples below.
and later:
Made by Eric Red Hawk. This took 1 1/2 months to bead. Can be made of any type of vest or material with a bit of weight to it. This has a distinctive Eastern Woodland Indian inspired design, true to Eric's heritage.
I don't know, but as far as I understand Athabascan is a language group, not a First Nation at all. Athabascan-speaking Peoples have traditional lands in Alberta, Saskatchewan, the Yukon and into Alaska I think. Some Southwestern Nations (Apache and Navajo to name two) speak Athabascan languages as well. I've never heard someone state that their people are Athabascan though, yet in your words you claim to be Athabascan first?. I also don't get the Eastern Woodland connection you refer to as being your heritage.......
I don't really know anything about Shawnee people, but I have spent a fair bit of time with friends and family from different Cree Nations. One thing you would most likely not hear is someone claiming they are Cree without being more specific as to Nation. So when you say Cree, who are you really talking about? Also of possible interest is the fact that both Shawnee and Cree Peoples speak Algonquian languages, and not an Athabascan language. So overall I'm just confused if you are claiming heritage from specific Nations, or from an anthropological language grouping. Perhaps you could clarify that sometime. Thanks.
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The Allegheny Nation Indian Communtiy Center (Ohio Band) was started in 1979 at which time they filed "an Intent" to petition..if you would like in the records that we are # 60 on that list.... we never got an actualy petition filed. The Allegheny Lenape group was started a few years back... we are the same people....but the Allegheny Lenape... branched off from us and started their own group...
The Allegheny Nation is still going strong... we are located in Newcomerstown, Ohio... PO Box 431...Newcomerstown, Ohio 43832.. Execurtive Director is Arthur Kennedy...if you want more information....
Looks to me like he is starting his own group. The only state recognized tribe in Ohio is the Allegheny Nation (Ohio Band). Lois Croston is a writer/genalogist of sorts from West Virginia. She has been living in Sharpe County (Canton/Massillon area for a while. I would take it that these are the same group. They did file a petition for federal recognation, but can't find if it is still on hold or denied as yet. He seems to stretch the truth or probably worse. The part about his parents having the "first" Native American Church is a stretch. I believe that was the Wyandots back in the 1800's and that closed. But not sure how he is interperting NAC. It would be interesting to know if the rest know what he is doing.
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The Allegheny Nation Indian Communtiy Center (Ohio Band) was started in 1979 at which time they filed "an Intent" to petition..if you would like in the records that we are # 60 on that list.... we never got an actualy petition filed. The Allegheny Lenape group was started a few years back... we are the same people....but the Allegheny Lenape... branched off from us and started their own group...
The Allegheny Nation is still going strong... we are located in Newcomerstown, Ohio... PO Box 431...Newcomerstown, Ohio 43832.. Execurtive Director is Arthur Kennedy...if you want more information....
The petition that was filed in 1979 was done by the "allegheny nation" also the state recognition was done by "the allegheny nation" and was sent to a representative "kirk shuring" which did nothing with it... and then later.. the Allegheny Lenape Group took the petition to this other representative...Rep Mauir I believe... and it was approved..if you check your records...also.. since we are the same group the "allegheny nation" was also recognized through the state.