We just got ourselves another Euro nuager trying to rewrite history, to define what is and isn't indigenous, and presenting us with the well-known 'share! - or else...'.
I'll try to explain what s/he says:
Yes -- there's a great "attraction"..... easy to understand when you educate yourself !
This should read: „There are thousands of Euros attracted to ndn ways as we define them – and if you just did a bit of thinking and reading *our* definitions, you'd easily see why this is so, and why it is okay for us. So shut your stupid ndn faces, willya.“
former "Europe" must be seen as many (unlikely) Tribes..
This should read: „Europe is a mix of many different tribes.“
(Note to Mizheekay: 'unlikely' means 'unwahrscheinlich', so no English speaking person can make heads or tails out of your comment.)
former "Germany" (as a well understood example ) must be known as 'many Tribes' {yes: unlikely}
This should read: „ 'Germany' must be seen as many tribes which again differ from each other.“
It IS PROVEN -by 'scientists'- that there were 'Sweat-Lodges' in this area (i.e.: some 14,000 years back)
This should read: „I don't know my behind from a hole in the ground re early European history, but that doesn't stop me from giving you lots of B.S. on the issue.“
14,000 years ago, there were no 'Germans' in Europe, no Indo-European peoples, so whoever may or may not have done sweatlodges here – it weren't the peoples living in Europe nowadays, and the respective traditions have been dead since thousands of years. As far as I read on early European history, no remains of paleolithic sweatlodges have been found.
Perhaps we should take due note that Mizheekay writes 'scientists', not scientists. Our friend M is simply creating fake history, like others have done before.
it IS PROVEN that our 'Ancestors' were intimate to smoke Pipes // used burned herbs for 'spiritual / ceremonial' benefit or healing - it IS PROVEN that the CIRCLE.. even the ( a ) circle of STONES.. was used and understood LONG before one could spell 'Germany'... long before one could spell Dakota, Crow, etc. !!
This should read: „*We* did all your sacred ceremonies long before you did, so we're perfectly entitled to do it today, and you should just shut your ndn faces. Better get it: me boss – you dirtrag. Oh, and when I say „it's proven“, of course this is enough, no need to give any citations.“
We should also notice the implication of what s/he says: if sweats, pipes, medicine circles etc were in use in Europe 14,000 years ago, then this was at a point of time before ndns allegedly walked across Bering Strait, so that these become Euro traditions in the first place in hir mind.
you may understand... that -northern- Europe "communicate" with northern 'America' (Earth-wise)... you may get an image of *similar* --so called-- Life-Conditions.... don't you ? Again: educate yourself !!
This should read: „I now give you some nuage garbage – living conditions in Northern Europe and Northern America were very similar, so of course peoples developed the same ways of life, from A to Z. You stupid lot just need to read real books, that is, what I define as real books, so that you can see what is right for you.“
You may (( I only guess ! )) have an idea about CREATOR's "schedule" for *humans* ?? So please.... don't make yourself an idiot ! True wisdom appear BEHIND -selfcreated- walls.... wether they are physical -- or mind guided ! Your choice - huh
This should read: „You insolent lot mean to tell me you know what creator had in mind for you?! This is my job as a white Euro to tell you.“
This shared.... I encourage you...to allow "strangers".... to allow "me" ( ! ) to become 'accepted' – within your own choosen abilities..
This should read: „That being said – now you're expected to allow us – and me in particular – to take your spirituality and do with it as we please. You may be too daft to see I'm right, but then again you chose to be daft. Simply shut your ndn faces.“
our 'favorite' fraud / fake **Firecracker** (William Jervis, aka....) IS NOT German...
while nobody know if he's real at all... but probably of IRISH // whatever [claimed: Cherokee] descent.
@Mizheekay, nobody here ever thought for one second that Jervis was German. I don't know where you got this idea from. Perhaps you got this mixed up with the German forum you're frequenting where one person tirelessly argues Jervis was a) enrolled, b) a legit medicine man, c) well-respected in ndn country.
Therefore again: educate yourself....and make SURE... that you post // share in an APPROPRIATE way !!!
Should'nt be THAT difficult ??
This should read: „Once again: you're stupid, but still you should post in accordance with my view of the world. If you refuse, I'll be miffed. As I said before: me boss – you dirtrag.“
@Mizheekay: most of the board members have had their share of encounters with Euro racism and white superiority, but your comments happen to be a rare gem. Perhaps this is due to your lack of fluency in English – and then again, perhaps this lack of fluency caused your being far more outspoken than in your comments in the German language forum.
It is more than insolent to join a board whose members are well educated, many of them hold university degrees, and tell them to educate themselves. Since the persons here are predominantly ndn and of ndn descent, this also happens to be an utterly racist approach. We do see people coming into this forum with a similar line of argumentation, but they are far and few between.
Stick to your own words, please: „Educate yourself, and make SURE you post in an appropriate way. Shouldn't be all that difficult.“
