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General => Member Introductions => Topic started by: RavenCrow on March 11, 2008, 01:27:56 am
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SIYO everyone. My name is Raven Crow and yes this is my birth name. I am federally recognized. I am a no BS kinda gal. I am a person who will find the truth and expose what I find after careful researching. When I get my radar up I will single that person out and search high and low and I will call all over the World to get my information.
Now there is this person here and also in my site who is from the Native American Unity. Now I do not know where this Matty person fits in but Tsisqua seems to be very questionable right now. She is a strong supporter of a Beaderman who we had been banned from our site for his shady tactics and creating drama and for accepting fake NDN Cards illegally obtained. They also did not turn these cards into the proper authorities who can actually end this problem legally. They also tried to get others involved in this. They knowingly and willingly accepted fraudulant property. This she supports. This is supporting frauds and fakes the very thing we all seem to want to end.
Now I have done an IP check on NAU and her and it goes to Dubblin Ireland. Then in her various profiles she is in different area's with different ages. It is very much like Beaderman was. He showed up in our old site and at first was a Vietnam Vet in his fifties and then a gun smith at the age of 33. I see this Tsisqua also changes age and also uses 33 and on our site the profile with the NAU is also 33. 33 seems to be a magical number. Now if she really cares about freeing all of the internet of twinkies, fakes, and frauds, why is they never told us the names of the various fraud profiles? It is our site and they came in claiming to help us and they did nothing but create drama and beaderman was able to get fake NDN cards.
I also have saved all my yahoo messages from beaderman stating in his name that he did this. We also have e-mails from our old site where he says a lot of lies and leads us to believe one thing while he is doing another. I say to you all, watch out for them and just because they hit the passionate buttons some of us REAL INDIANS have does not mean they are really out for our interests. All they and Beaderman gave us was drama.
Now what I do not know is how Matty fits into all of this because that person is over on our RNS and has a profile. This Matty acts all concerned about Beaderman and told me I could talk to this Tsisqua and she is nice to only have her attack me here because I mentioned Beaderman. Here is the link
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1576.0
and she appears to have tried to make it look like she did not mean to sound mean. I think her first response was true to her form.
I am not some child here and I have been Indian my entire life and raised as so. I have dealt with all kinds but the internet is good and bad. We can reach out to a wider audience but at the same time we cannot 100% prove who someone claims to be.
I am very concerned about this person misleading people here and else where. Anyone who supports obtaining and keeping fake NDN Cards leaves a bad taste in my mouth and no trust for anyone who could do this and support this.
Now I think this is a nice intro to myself. Wado for your time and reading my post.
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Now that's what I call an introduction ;) Pleased to meet you RavenCrow.
BrownNosed
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Welcome, just keep it in somewhat close to control.
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Well I did say I was a no BS kinda gal. ;D
Nice to meet you two.
Fredrica I understand what you said and I did not post my 1st one to create drama. Beaderman is from OHIO and I posted there because I know he claimed to want to rid OHIO of fakes. I was giving a heads up. I do feel she acted in haste and if she did not like or believe what I said, she could of asked why I said that. There was no need for her hostility.
I guess I came in with a bang?
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And no hostility was meant....seems you misunderstand me somewhat....and have turned this into a witch hunt....of which there was no need.
With respect,
Tsisqua
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Well you first response was harsh and you did attack my site so how else could I take your first comment? Now as for the witch hunt I have no time for that. Also I do not believe in witches so it really would be a waste of my time.
Your friend seems to like it in RNS the one you call twinkie city. Why not come over and see how wrong you were?
I do like this site and I found it while looking for information. I liked it so much and what I read, I posted in RNS so people can join here too. There are quite a bit of us federally recognized people tired of the all this fraud and scams. We also allow all races no matter what. All we ask for is they respect our Culture and us as humans. Do you not want the same?
Come over, I will give you the link. Anyone else who wants to come over come to
www.rednationsociety.com
Wado all
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Hi and welcome
I don't have no ideal who you are talking about??
Are you from eastern band cherokee?
Anyway I looked over your site and gallery.
Not my cup of tea
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Dago Te
Just call me Mike or anything, and I will answer. I'm born and raised N'dee of the old Carrizo Band in the White Mountains so many years ago now it seems in another life time. Nice to meet you. It seems your on a mission, and I really don't know the person your talking about. Then again I stopped chasing shadows at least thirty years ago.
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Yes I am Eastern. Wado for all your welcome comments. RNS is not for everyone but it is a nice place.
We do not discriminate on race, color, creed, ethnic, or religion. Well, maybe we ahte New Agers. We will allow anyone to come in but once they get out of line or prove they are a fraud, we will get rid of them. We also will not allow anyone to verbally abuse anyone. We allow opinions of any kind and it is not strictly NDN. We are too aware of Non Indians marrying Indians and mixed breeds and half breeds like me and then there are people who really do want to learn our ways and respect us. Then there are NDN's who live or lived in both Worlds as I did and Chelle. We want to bridge the 2 Worlds.
Now just because you are a full NDN does not entitle you on our site to be rude and yes we will ban a Full NDN if they too violate our rules. All are treated equally.
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My children have brothers and sister enrolled at Eastern Band Cherokee.
I am Lakota and Dakota.
I visited there last fall what a beautiful place.
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Raven crow,
You are mentioning many names but nobody here knows who these people are.
Who is Beaderman? Who is the Matty you mentioned in another thread ( this didn't appear to have anything to do with the topic of the thread so I am asking here instead of there )?
Who's fake Indian cards did Beaderman allegedly accept and how did Beaderman accept these ? In real life? In an online relationship? What did they accept them for? Are there on line links to this information, or is it something you witnessed in real life? Who are you saying supports someone getting fake Indian cards and how exactly are they supporting this ?
From what I can see on line it doesn't look like Beaderman is supporting frauds? You mentioned you feel they stole this information from one of your webpages ? Could you show us links to where you have this posted? Whether they are Indian or not it doesn't look like they support frauds, and spreading the information warning people about frauds doesn't seem to be a bad thing to do. What is it that you find objectionable?
Beaderman's blog seems to be down now but the cached page still works. I see nothing that looks like exploitation there.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:mzgwLPjde6UJ:beadermansdealings.blogspot.com/2007
/01/urb-is-desperate.html+Beaderman+URB&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ca (http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:mzgwLPjde6UJ:beadermansdealings.blogspot.com/2007
/01/urb-is-desperate.html+Beaderman+URB&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ca)
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:PFcTqcJrpu0J:beadermansdealings.blogspot.com/2007/01/
review-project-native-and-outreach.html+Beaderman+white+sheets&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ca (http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:PFcTqcJrpu0J:beadermansdealings.blogspot.com/2007/01/
review-project-native-and-outreach.html+Beaderman+white+sheets&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ca)
I understand that people can hurt each others feelings in on line relationships and over time you notice stuff like who supports who and who and these things can make you suspisious.
If you have a concern that is serious enough to bring up here why not start a thread and go over what happened point by point. As you seem to be refering to on line relationships , if you can provide brief quotes of the parts of what was said that bothered you along with with links to this so people can verify this, and see the context it would help people understand what your concerns are.
Otherwise it just seems like confusing cyberdrama from other boards.
I see on the web page you linked to in your introduction someone is auctioning so called Prayer kits. Is that a Cherokee tradition ?
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Our site is not only Cherokee. We also allow all races. As for the Prayer Kits the wannabes in there are willing to buy it so why not sell it?
Tsis knows who I am talking about and she uses his information at her site called Native American Unity.
I have gotten all I needed on Beaderman from people who knows of him. Like I said, our site is not for everyone.
You also might know Beaderman as TheRebel?
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As for the Prayer Kits the wannabes in there are willing to buy it so why not sell it?
Please tell me that was a joke.
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Yes it was. It was my humor as dry as it was. Sorry if I offended anyone.
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As for the Prayer Kits the wannabes in there are willing to buy it so why not sell it?
For the long answer, in case you don't know "why not sell it ", you could read through these two links;
Sale of sweetgrass and sage
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=580.0;all (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=580.0;all)
Who owns Native culture.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=412.0;all (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=412.0;all)
It was my humor as dry as it was.
How can it be "just a joke" when this website is actually selling prayer kits?
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Wado for your links I will look at them another time. I believe I apologized for my joke and I do have a dry sense of humor. As for what is being sold by others I suppose you can argue with the one who is selling it?
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Moma_porcupine what Nation/Tribe are you from? You seem to know a lot so I am just curious.
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Allowing the sell of such item on your site
It is the responablity of the owner of the site
as to what is happening there.
Why allow wannabe on the site?
I understand allow all people but there are those.....
that should not be allowed at native sites at all.
They cause our people more problem with their
strange ideals.
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I don't know what you and Mama porcupine are all upset for. One that wannabe joke was a joke and as for the selling of the smudge kits she is a Pomo Card Holder so like I said you can complain to her. Don't you know these kits are sold everywhere? Time to lighten up here.
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Wonders how to "lighten up" here when we are told that our people are selling traditions and it's "OK"??? I did belong to RNS, I have to say that I was more alarmed than anything else at all the so called Cherokee, that slammed onto my page within the first 48 hours, and me reading what they had to say knowing..........KNOWING, for a fact that they were fake and wannabe. I am Tsalagi Ani Waya, Born and Bred, OFF THE REZ, so there are some of your "Dry Humor" remarks that even I, take offense too.
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Don't you know these kits are sold everywhere? Time to lighten up here.
hummm, that's what this forum is about, the selling of traditions, ceremonies, and the like by fakes, wantabes, and even Ndns.
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Well honestly this original topic was not meant for that but it turned that way. Now as for the prayer items for sale it is her right to sell it. It is not like she is selling private prayers or the sacred pipe. Now there are lots who buy these items at POWWOW's and everywhere you look. Yes we use them in our prayers but it is not like it is a sacred item since other Religions use them like pagans, Wicca, and so on. Honestly I think a few are making more out of it then there really should be.
Now what I find troublesome is, I came here to find some truths and to see and confirm my own findings on fake Chiefs, and what not. Now I know who I am and I see some would rather question me instead of working together to the same cause I thought we are all after.
Now attacking an NDN I did not know was part of this. But okay this is your way I suppose. As for Beaderman some act like I was the first one to even mention his name and I have found you all know very well who I am talking about and have been talking about him for quite sometime before I came into the picture. I have even seen where loads of you questioned Tsissy. Now I am new here and I do not know any of you but in time I will be able to sort who is who.
I will say I have been nothing but honest from the beginning regardless of whom likes it or not. If all some can do is dwell then fine because I am on a mission to get information on various people and organizations and really do not care to play games.
Barnaby asked me if I was joking and I said yes. It is my dry humor. It is boring having some harp on my dry humor and it really is their issue and not mine.
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This is what bothered me the most!!!!!!!
"Our site is not only Cherokee. We also allow all races. As for the Prayer Kits the wannabes in there are willing to buy it so why not sell it?"
BECAUSE YOU DON'T SELL TO WANNABE'S FER FRUCKS SAKE!
It's supposed to be sacred and it's for YOUR People if you are who and what you say you are, which I am seriously beginning to doubt!! :o
If you were all you said you were, YOU WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM SELLING YOUR TRADITIONS TO TWINKIES!!!!!!!!! >:(
So you lighten up.........and don't sit there and tell us......."Well if they are gonna buy it....why not sell it??" >:(
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Like I told Barnaby it was a joke and a dry joke and I did apologize if I offended anyone. What part does no one see?
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I don't see how you can come to this forum and say that you want to help expose the fakes and yadda yadda yadda, and then you contradict yourself by saying
"Well if the wannabes are buying it why not sell it to them."
You are basically aiding and abetting what we are here to fight against, and that is WHITE people or any other race besides , NdN, Native American, or whatever you call yourself, taking our traditions and ceremonies and using them for beneficial gains. I don't give a rat's patootie about the joke, but I do care about you saying it is ok to give away all that we have left just because these people have money to buy it........none of it......and I mean NONE......should have a price tag or be up for sale, and you are betraying your people if you think that it is ok.......
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I came here to find some truths and to see and confirm my own findings on fake Chiefs, and what not. Now I know who I am and I see some would rather question me instead of working together to the same cause I thought we are all after.
Which is exactly what you did to Matty and I yet now the shoe is on the other foot.....its a different matter.
Now attacking an NDN I did not know was part of this. But okay this is your way I suppose.
As is your way my dear, since you attacked Matty for being a staff member of NAU a site that supports Beadermans findings...and you also attacked me, making slanderous remarks in your past post....yet again...when the shoe is on the other foot...tsk tsk tsk
I will say I have been nothing but honest from the beginning regardless of whom likes it or not. If all some can do is dwell then fine because I am on a mission to get information on various people and organizations and really do not care to play games.
Yet you makes accusations about other people, other sites, without proof or evidence, you refuse to answer questions when they are asked of you regarding your claims....and you speak to members here in a tone that is nothing short of disrespectful? NAFPS is a respectful group, full of highly respectful and friendly people who are very welcoming...yet you speak to us here as though we are here soley for your purpose?
Who sells prayer kits to twinkies and then claims to be seeking out frauds?? Contradiction of terms perhaps? Im just trying to fathom what the heck is going on here...
With respect,
Tsissy
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I thought I saw an apology here somewhere..I also thought this was a group of adults..perhaps I was mistaken :-[
Isn't there a PM here to use instead of a public area to hash out what appears to be a personal problem?
And just for the record, I am enrolled and when I go to the pow wows at home in Canada, sage, cedar and sweet grass are always for sale. So I throw my hands up in this argument..
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She or He apologized for the joke.....that's not the dispute, and there is nothing childish about the conversation....
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RavenCrow
Now as for the prayer items for sale it is her right to sell it. It is not like she is selling private prayers or the sacred pipe. Now there are lots who buy these items at POWWOW's and everywhere you look. Yes we use them in our prayers but it is not like it is a sacred item since other Religions use them like pagans, Wicca, and so on. Honestly I think a few are making more out of it then there really should be.
This statement fits with what you said about if wannabe's wanna buy why not sell it to them. So it wasn't a joke.
I know in some areas some people think it is OK to sell everything and anything. If you read through the links I posted, you will see the problem is that there is always a situation where a few people say it's OK to sell something which other people in the group feel is Sacred, and shouldn't be sold. It's a problem, because if the decision is left to those who feel it is Ok , and those who don't feel it is OK can be ignored, the result will be that absolutely every aspect of Native traditions will be commercialized, because every tribe has a few members who would sell anything. It is a divisive issue and I know which side of it I support.
What bothers me is I don't feel you are being straight with us. You came here with concerns about some of the people who post here, but you haven't explained anything that makes sense. Then you say you think it's OK to sell Medicine to twinkies , and when you get questioned about your attitude you try and say it's a joke and then repeat the same opinion in different words.
I really put a strong value on honesty and I don't see it here.
As for myself, I post here anonymously. As that is the case nobody could confirm anything I say about myself, so I don't see the point in making any claims. I am familiar with the territory on both sides of the fence, and I see people getting hurt on both sides. I like to think communication can help.
Which is why I participate here.
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Well said Mama, WELL said!
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To me it seem like personal stuff being brought to this site.
If you can't post facts then post in the research section.
Welcome but remember that what ever personal problem you
have on the your site don't bring them here.
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Well I doubt it will be an issue any longer considering Raven has 'left the building'.....she has copied and pasted all she needs for her own little group of fake finders, made false claims without evidence....tried to close NAU down with her false claims to Freeweb...but to no avail...she has also made some terrible claims regarding NAFPS and their apparent connection with NAU and Beaderman...I guess she was on a mission...a BS mission by all accounts....pity she is one of the biggest fakes in RNS eh.
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Well, let's give it a rest then.
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Well I doubt it will be an issue any longer considering Raven has 'left the building'.....she has copied and pasted all she needs for her own little group of fake finders, made false claims without evidence....tried to close NAU down with her false claims to Freeweb...but to no avail...she has also made some terrible claims regarding NAFPS and their apparent connection with NAU and Beaderman...I guess she was on a mission...a BS mission by all accounts....pity she is one of the biggest fakes in RNS eh.
How could anyone close a site? Are you sure you are correct? I don't see anything over there where she is trashing anyone but I saw you are in yahoo and here. She raised alot of good questions that is causing some of us to rethink people we thought were okay. You pride yourself on getting facts before accusing and here you are accusing without all the facts. What proof do you have if any? I think maybe you need to calm down and they always say the guilty accuses first and you have done nothing but accuse her from the beginning.
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With all due respect, NAU has just had 20 of its pages blocked and shut down due to the false claims of this woman...this is a site we work very hard on..making sure information is put out there for native people...there is nothing 'bad' or 'wrong' with any of the following pages which have been blocked...
Native Unity, NAUIS, Political Prisoner, Take Action, Page of Shame, Native Links, Native History, Native News, Native Pride, Native Hip Hop, Native Comedians, Native Actors, Animal Rights, Questions, Various Pictures, Pow Wow dates, Native Musicians, Native Writers, Native Artists and the Guestbook!
These pages have been shut down due to fake claims that have NOT been proven (Namely one claim....that we post SS #'s on our site...I did not realize Animals had SS #'s yet our animal rights page is gone!!)...these claims are false! All these pages shut down have none of the information on them that she claims...(But just like all her claims here...when asked...she would not grace NAFPS with a reply)..all this is because we have a link on our site to Beadermans Blog....a person she dislikes as he exposed her as a fake? One moment she was enrolled with the Oklahoma Cherokee Nation...until Beaderman checked....they had never heard of her..then she claims to be enrolled in the Eastern Band of Cherokee...this has yet to be proven...he also exposed her on many other things...this woman is a fraud!
She came here under false pretenses...caused as much trouble as possible....sells prayer kits to non natives 'openly'...endorses fake natives on RNS...and it's to be dropped?
I thought this was a place to expose fakes and frauds for what they are, and not a place to sit back and watch while they do as much damage as possible and get away with all they do? As long as fake ndn's and frauds are ignored....they will continue! Perhaps I am highly mistaken....and if so...you have my apologies...
With respect,
Tsissy (NAU ~ Native American Unity)
BrownNosed: If you care to read RavenCrows first posting here, you will see it was SHE who came here making false claims she could not back up with evidence, and when we called her into question, she refused to give evidence or comment! Now if that makes people question me...so be it! I have never come here claiming to be anything I am not!
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I saw her first post and yeah I was shocked that someone else knew beaderman and then when I saw her intro I knew it was not beaderman posing again but someone new. I admit she came out hard but her claims are correct about beaderman and you all know him by TheRebel. He has over 20 different names. Now your first response to her was mean and I don't know why you softened it but you tried. From what I saw that she wrote from the start she was not after anyone but beaderman and it was your response that got her guard up about you. You can't deny that.
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Then where was her proof? When asked for proof she changed the subject! You cannot make false claims about a person without evidence....Freewebs have enclosed Sonja Lloyds (aka Raven Crow aka KnightCrowWatching) complaints...I know where the fake complaints came from...I also know why she has made these fake claims from her abusive messages to Matty in RNS....as I have it in her own words....but where was her proof about Beaderman...and where is yours?
If my words were 'mean' I apologised for that...I was merely pointing out the fact that you just cant make claims about a person without evidence...and instead of giving evidence...she then claimed I personally worked with Beaderman...of which I do not...we have a link to Beadermans blog on our site as he does alot of good work....she also claimed I am personally involved with him? I do not, and never have, nor ever would have anything to do with fake ID cards....and I take great offense I was brought into such a false accusation....we treat all people with respect...we work damned hard at what we do....and if you want to support someone who goes off on a rant and a witch hunt just because she cant have her own way...more fool you...I have nothing more to say!
With respect,
Tsissy
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You see, you post things and you are not 100% sure if you have all the right information. Okay I spoke to her myself and she is right about beaderman. When we talked in all honesty she barely spoke of you or anyone ehere. Her whole focus is beaderman. Yes you raised her concerns when you approached like you did. You have not been nice to her since from what I see here. I also doubt very much anyone can close a site down just because of a complaint. Look at yahoo they aren't shut down and I know they get a lot of complaints. You asked if she was on a witch hunt and all I see is you are. I mean why do you have to attack someone who really is a card holder? Forget the prayer kit because she is not selling it and I know those things can be bought anywhere and that auction seems to be closed to members only. Its not EBAY. I find it very sad to see people who are supposed to be Native Americans attacking another Native American. I saw her profile on RNS and she really has a nice layout and filled with her life. You didn't give her a chance here. You from the beginning attacked her. You are defending someone we all were talking about and he is not Native American at all. Go ask his parents. You might have his blogs but do you really know where he got it? He has been taking a lot of peoples work and saying it is his. We call him the cut and paste king. Her whole goal was beaderman and still you cover him and attack her. Why is that?
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Another thing, let's say you are right about her shutting down your site, are you trying to shut down this site by posting personal information here? Also, that is assuming your information is correct. I think the only way a site would be shut down is because there was something the site owners saw wrong and possibly illegal. Now we all know your sites IP is in Ireland and maybe your rules are different then those in the USA. Did you ever consider that?
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If you want to fight take it off-line. Trying to deal with internet groups is difficult. Some of it is real, some of it is pure fantasy. Like video games you just hope the people that start them use good judgement. Would you please give it a rest.
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Or , if you want to fight why not get to your real interest, in the appropriate thread..
I see Beadermans blog is no longer available.
I also see the information that used to be posted on the rednationsciety websit is gone;
http://www.rednationsociety.com/BeaderMan/view_blog/8850/ (http://www.rednationsociety.com/BeaderMan/view_blog/8850/)
One of the cached pages is still here;
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:mS__ErQJtVEJ:www.rednationsociety.com/BeaderMan/view_
blog/8850/+beaderman+URB&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=ca (http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:mS__ErQJtVEJ:www.rednationsociety.com/BeaderMan/view_
blog/8850/+beaderman+URB&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=ca)
This evidence does fit with the claims that websites carrying information some people don't like being made public are being shut down.
The cached pages of beadermans blog is still there;
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:PFcTqcJrpu0J:beadermansdealings.blogspot.com/2007/01/%3Cbr%20/%3
Ereview-project-native-and-outreach.html+Beaderman+white+sheets&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ca (http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:PFcTqcJrpu0J:beadermansdealings.blogspot.com/2007/01/%3Cbr%20/%3
Ereview-project-native-and-outreach.html+Beaderman+white+sheets&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ca)
So are these pictures of kids dressed in white sheets and cardboard head dresses faked? If they are real, you don't think misrepresenting Native traditions like this is a problem?
Brownnosed, if you are here to defend the URB , why not go to the thread we have on them and do so.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1347.msg9761#msg9761 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1347.msg9761#msg9761)
Attacking the messenger just seems like you are trying to distract from the real concerns.
I have to wonder about your choice of username. It seems that is how you feel about participating here.
You are obviously here with an agenda, Why not get to it in a direct way? Attacking the messengers just makes me think you know your true interests are indefensible.
Brownosed
I find it very sad to see people who are supposed to be Native Americans attacking another Native American.
This is an idiotic statement. You think any People of any Nation all agree with each other on everything? Why do you think the processes of protest and discussion which resolve these disputes are Indians attacking Indians ? This guilt provoking claim is a tactic often used by those who are supporting colonial interests, who want to shut up the Native people who object to being colonized.
People who support colonial interests often point to a few Indians who have been bought off and aren't objecting , and then the colonizers try and confuse the issue by saying these people who are objecting are "attacking" their own people.
It is obvious where your own interests lie.
Brownosed
are you trying to shut down this site by posting personal information here?
Is that a veiled threat?
The information linking all these names is all on line for anyone who knows how to do a Google search, and it was put there by Ravencrow. Nobody has to keep information private that people put on line about themselves. Cut the crap and get to the real reason you are here.
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you hit the nail on the head Moma
This kind of stuff takes away from the site.
personal stuff should be done on their personnal messages
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Yep, makes no sense either, except maybe meant to be disruptive.
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I also doubt very much anyone can close a site down just because of a complaint.
This site was forced offline for a while last summer by an outraged fraud-promoter making bizarre complaints to our former hosting company. Most hosting companies care either about customer service or money; the former often require a court order before removing material, the latter often cave in at the first whining sound.
As for all this he said/she said/he's Native/she's not malarkey, I'm tired of it. Frederica warned you enough times to take this to private messages. I'm locking this thread and will not tolerate any further trolling.