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John Allen Hill / John Two Hawks / John Twohawks
educatedindian:
Got a request about him. Opinions? He's a musician most of the time. For me the problem is with his Medicine conference and retreats.
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This is the latest "news letter" from John Two-Hawks. When you have found the time to "check him out" I will be very interested to
know your opinion. :-)
He has two websites:
http://www.nativecircle.com
http://www.johntwohawks.com
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May/June 2005 Edition
Hau kola na tiyospaye (Hello friends & extended family),
Welcome to all new Circle members! Each section of the Circle of Nations newsletter is written 'facing' one of the four sacred winds, beginning with the east, then the south, west and finally the north. This is to honor the old ways. It is to teach and to help us to focus and find the center. I have designed the Native Circle website in the same spirit. I welcome you all to the Circle....
EAST - Wiyohinyanpata - Yellow (Four Winds)
“Into The West???, the 60 million dollar Steven Spielberg TNT 6-part Series, begins this weekend. I am very much looking forward to it, even if with a bit of cautious optimism. I was on the set during the filming with my friend Joseph Marshall, who was the Native American technical advisor for the majority of the filming. He also plays the lead character in the last episode and narrates throughout the Series. He is also the author of our new Children’s Book, by the way! Anyway.... I chatted with Tatanka Means (Russell Means’ son) on set a bit, and talked with Joe (Marshall) a lot about how the ‘telling’ of our side of the history was being handled, and from all I saw and heard it appeared that every effort was being made to portray the First Nations’ people, culture and history in a truthful manner. I completely trust the expertise and input of Joseph Marshall and the other Indian people I know and spoke with who are involved with the series, it is Hollywood I have a little trouble trusting. I may be, as I said, a wee bit cautious in my optimistic expectations, but do I have a hunch that this thing is gonna be really great. I mean really, really great. Anyhow....
SOUTH - Itokagata - Red (Red Earth)
A word about the Mending Medicine Conference. You can still register and save $50.00, if you register during the month of June. The price of the Conference is $175 but if you reserve your space now you can attend for $125, to read about the Conference....
http://www.nativecircle.com/Conference.html
We also have vendor space available for the Conference. An incredible bargain of $60 for the entire conference.
The Mending Medicine Retreat date has been changed to one week later, Oct 27th, because John will be in Finland performing with Nightwish on Oct 21st. The retreat is filling up fast, so make sure you get your registration forms into Circle Studios soon.
WEST - Wiyohpeyata - Black or Blue (We are STILL Here!)
NORTH - Waziyata - White (Words of Wisdom)
Your Oglala Lakota friend and brother,
John Two-Hawks
educatedindian:
Notice who is presenting at the conference.
"O-si-yo. ? My name is Elizabeth Anne Wilson Schaef, Unega Uwohali Adanv Ageya. ? I am born of the Cherokee (Cha-la-gi) and Irish nations with a little bit of British blood thrown in for spice. ? My clan is the bird clan. ? My roots are in the Ozark hills... My early education was in these hills, fields and streams with my great grandmother, the spirit of my grandmothers and my mother, who are of a women’s medicine line....
My Lakota name is Wian Wamblishka Wakan and my Blackfoot name is Natoiwapaki having been adopted into both tribes. ? I have the responsibility of carrying two pipes: one given to me by an Overhill Cherokee medicine woman and spiritual leader, Lee Piper, and the other given to me by Eagle Bear (Frank Fools Crow) whose wife, Kate, asked me to keep and protect her ceremonial dress....
In spite of initially considering myself a non-writer, the creator has asked me to write books. ? I have published 13 books which have become bestsellers and been translated into many languages. ? Beyond Therapy, Beyond Science and Living in Process describe the healing work I teach throughout the world. ? When Society Becomes an Addict was a New York Times bestseller and nominated for best political book of the year. ? Meditations for Women Who Do Too Much has sold over two million copies. ? My favorite of all my books is Native Wisdom for White Minds. ? I take no credit for any of these books."
But read this.
http://www.consumeralertannewilsons.homestead.com/
This site has been developed to provide education and accurate information about this woman. ? Many people are mislead into believing that she is a credible, professionally recognized, psychologist or psychotherapist. ? They pay her, or her "trainees" ? money to attend ? "Intensives" ? without realizing that she is not a legitimate professional with appropriate experience and training to be able to assist them with very personal issues and concerns. Instead she is reported to use the techniques and practices of mind control and thought reform. These ? techniques and practices are commonly used by cult leaders. ? She has no credibility among feminist therapists, and would not be eligible for membership in the American Psychological Association, or eligible for a license or certification as a psychologist or psychotherapist in a significant number of States in the US. People report traumatic experiences as the result of their association with her."
Also a series of articles there questioning her credentials. I'll ask around cult watch groups about her. ?
And Overhill Cherokees? I asked Vance about them on his group. Those towns were destroyed before the 1750s. It's something used by lots of people making dubious claims, like Chicamauga only even older.
Most of the rest of his conference people are altmedicine types.
Dave:
Two Hawks is on our beware list of individuals who
misrepresent themselves. Yes he does know Joe
Marshall. Marshall has told me that, although he
knows of Two Hawks upbringing, he doesn’t know if Two Hawks is Indian or not.
Two Hawks might have some NDN heritage somewhere in his background, but he not enrolled as a Lakota, either Oglala or Sicangu. The disturbing thing about this is that he uses the Lakota ploy as part of his money making endeavors. I believe that his wife,
Peggy, is from Canada - I don’t know if she has any
Native heritage or not.
At one point in time it was claimed that Two Hawks was taught by Dennis Eagle Horse and Joe Marshall. Dennis Eagle Horse flatly states that he is not a Lakota spiritual teacher, and that the only time he met Two Hawks was when he sold Two Hawks a shirt. Eagle Horse’s daughter, Jennifer/ Mountain Doe, told us “My father is very upset to hear what John is doing and will be contacting him by phone to discuss it. Please do not spend money doing this and tell others you may know that wish to do it that it is a scam. Lakota spirituality is handed down through the tribe...not taught like this.???
Joe Marshall also has denied being a spiritual
teacher for Two Hawks. “… he is not the only person who has labeled me his or her "spiritual teacher. I gave a talk to a non-Indian group and several of them later told others that they had been spiritually enlightened by "their spiritual guide," which, of course, was me in their perception. So what do we do? Make disclaimers before we open our mouths each time????
I think that Two Hawks has stopped using the names of the two individuals, and now merely says “spiritual teachers???. It not as hard to get caught in a lie this way.
In any case, I would caution anyone not to pay the bigbucks that Two Hawks charges for his “spiritual
retreats??? and to listen with caution to anything he
might say or write. He is also involved with
“Manataka??? to some extent.
kosowith:
Today I was driving home from my daughter's place in Jefferson City, Montana and had to drive by the Boulder Hot Springs - a very old, beautiful, turn-of-the-century spa - now owned and run by Anne Wilson-Schaef - thinking about her reminded me of where I first met her - it was at a AISES (American Indian Science and Engineering Society) conference - she was an invited speaker and on the "A" dinner list. In fact it was Norb Hill who introduced me to her. She was there having dinner with Norb, and other AISES elders - (the list includes Vine, Henri, etc) actually I've been told that she does lots of work for them - ?? go figure !!
Delynn Darling:
It is sad to see people who obviously do not know John Two-Hawks hurling insults and accusations at him that are innacurate and false. I know him very well, and I can tell you that nothing written here is even remotely close to the truth. It is always a good bet to avoid passing judgement on people you do not know personally, because without knowing them, how can you really "judge" the content of their character??
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