Author Topic: Native American Association — Inter-Tribal Nation/ Chester & Nancy Rice  (Read 8431 times)

Offline Sparks

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1. http://www.nativeamericanassociation.org/index.html
2. https://www.facebook.com/NativeAmericanAssociation

Can anyone tell me what this is all about? A woman on a genealogy group has sent in a test and now these people tell her she is of Aztec Ancestry and qualified to receive a CNBT registration and also be registered in the Inter-Tribal Roll. If she pays them, of course, preferredly on a regular basis.

CNBT is mentioned here, but they never explain what the acronym stands for:

http://www.nativeamericanassociation.org/information.html

And what is the Inter-Tribal Roll, except some kind oof membership in a private, commercial LLC company?

(The woman seems very excited about it, while I think she is being conned. Am I right or wrong?)

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« Last Edit: March 19, 2013, 06:08:40 am by Sparks »

Offline Superdog

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Re: The Native American Association — Inter-Tribal Nation
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2013, 12:01:35 pm »
This is a con.  Tell your friend to stay away. 

While I haven't found the exact description yet....I have an educated guess (from reading through the website and fb page) that it goes along the line of Certified Native Blood Trait.....

They are making a whole lot of promises and claims, but the most disturbing is a fb post where they say even if you aren't Native join them and then you can say you are Native.  They talk a lot about building crafts and make the claim that with them you will earn 5x as much for your crafts than doing it on your own.

The costs are not small either.  Membership is $75 a year (although they also say the CNBT is for life)....

While they don't explicitly say it...the vibe is "if you join our site, you can now claim you are Native and sell crafts as such". 

Gonna keep searching.  The fb page began in February so this is looks like a new site.  All I see is sell sell sell....the links to members pages show quite a bit of hobbyism going on as well.

Superdog
« Last Edit: March 18, 2013, 12:06:14 pm by Superdog »

Offline Superdog

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Re: The Native American Association — Inter-Tribal Nation
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2013, 12:49:26 pm »
This site is run by a couple.  Nancy Rice and her husband Chester Rice (screen name Roaming Wolf).  Part of the "Northern Cherokee Nation" (a heritage group in Missouri).  Here's their registration info:
http://www.bizapedia.com/mo/NATIVE-AMERICAN-ASSOCIATION-LLC.html
Company Name:    NATIVE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION LLC.
Status:    Active    Filing Date:    08/20/2012
Entity Type:    Domestic Limited-Liability Company    File Number:    LC1250251
Filing State:    Missouri (MO)       
Company Age:    7 Months       
Registered Agent:    
Rice, Chester
*address removed*
Flemington, MO"

I removed his address....in case it's a personal address.  However, the address is posted on the link.

They've been advertising on other sites.  This one falsely claims that if you join them you will get a card that will recognize you as being Native American. 

http://www.manta.com/c/mx2k27y/native-american-association-llc
"About native american association LLC

registration of native american who can't prove thier genealogy

Are you Native American and cant prove it through your genealogy or dont know where to begin. We can help we are offering a program where you can get a card that will recognize you as being Native American. For more infomation call us a visit us on line at www.nativeamericanassociation.org"



The misspellings occur throughout their web page, fb page as well as any advertisements I've seen on the net.  Not a very professional company.  They are also verrrrrry misleading.

Superdog


Offline educatedindian

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Re: Native American Association -Inter-Tribal Nation/Chester & Nancy Rice
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2013, 01:08:43 pm »
Yeah, they are outright lying. DNA testing can prove Native ancestry, but not by tribe. No tribe accepts it as proof, and they give the false impression it does.

They also run a Church of Naturalizam. They sell memberships in their "nation" too, 30 bucks for 3 months, saying they give 10% to unnamed projects to help animals.
http://www.nativeamericanassociation.org/nature.html

His twitter account is mostly posting astrology.

Offline ShadowDancer

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Re: Native American Association Inter-Tribal Nation/Chester & Nancy Rice
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2013, 04:54:53 pm »
If your friend is looking to join due to the crafts/hobby angle, they need to be aware of the Indian Arts and Crafts Act

http://www.iacb.doi.gov/act.html

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The Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 1990 (P.L. 101-644) is a truth-in-advertising law that prohibits misrepresentation in marketing of Indian arts and crafts products within the United States. It is illegal to offer or display for sale, or sell any art or craft product in a manner that falsely suggests it is Indian produced, an Indian product, or the product of a particular Indian or Indian Tribe or Indian arts and crafts organization, resident within the United States. For a first time violation of the Act, an individual can face civil or criminal penalties up to a $250,000 fine or a 5-year prison term, or both. If a business violates the Act, it can face civil penalties or can be prosecuted and fined up to $1,000,000.

Under the Act, an Indian is defined as a member of any federally or State recognized Indian Tribe, or an individual certified as an Indian artisan by an Indian Tribe.

The law covers all Indian and Indian-style traditional and contemporary arts and crafts produced after 1935. The Act broadly applies to the marketing of arts and crafts by any person in the United States. Some traditional items frequently copied by non-Indians include Indian-style jewelry, pottery, baskets, carved stone fetishes, woven rugs, kachina dolls, and clothing.

All products must be marketed truthfully regarding the Indian heritage and tribal affiliation of the producers, so as not to mislead the consumer. It is illegal to market an art or craft item using the name of a tribe if a member, or certified Indian artisan, of that tribe did not actually create the art or craft item.

For example, products sold using a sign claiming "Indian Jewelry" would be a violation of the Indian Arts and Crafts Act if the jewelry was produced by someone other than a member, or certified Indian artisan, of an Indian tribe. Products advertised as "Hopi Jewelry" would be in violation of the Act if they were produced by someone who is not a member, or certified Indian artisan, of the Hopi tribe.

If you purchase an art or craft product represented to you as Indian-made, and you learn that it is not, first contact the dealer to request a refund. If the dealer does not respond to your request, you can also contact your local Better Business Bureau, Chamber of Commerce, and the local District Attorney's office, as you would with any consumer fraud complaint. Second, contact the Indian Arts and Crafts Board with your written complaint regarding violations of the Act.

Before buying Indian arts or crafts at powwows, annual fairs, juried competitions, and other events, check the event requirements on the authenticity of products being offered for sale. Many events list the requirements in newspaper advertisements, promotional flyers, and printed programs. If the event organizers make no statements on compliance with the Act or on the authenticity of Indian arts and crafts offered by participating vendors, you should obtain written certification from the individual vendors that their Indian arts or craftwork were produced by tribal members or by certified Indian artisans.

Indian Arts and Crafts Board
U.S. Department of Interior
1849 C. Street, N.W.
MS 2528-MIB
Washington, DC 20240   

Telephone: (202) 208-3773
Toll Free: (888) ART-FAKE
Fax: (202) 208-5196
E-mail: iacb@ios.doi.gov
Director: Meridith Z. Stanton

Offline dek39

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I tested my mother with FTDNA, and she had a 5th cousin match whom I contacted with the email she provided:     naamainoffice@gmail.com

I never heard from the match, and now I've been getting twitter inviations from "Roaming Wolf" and other junk from his office. In other word, the match has no control over her DNA or FTDNA account, but the NAA office does.

I've notified FTDNA and the Attorney General in Missouri.

Note that they ask for Social Security numbers.

http://www.nativeamericanassociation.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/099form.pdf

Epiphany

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They charge a $348 fee for "processing" and "Family finder D.N.A.". http://www.nativeamericanassociation.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/099form.pdf

But Family Tree DNA tests are $99 - $199 http://www.familytreedna.com/landing/native-american-ancestry.aspx So Rice's group is collecting a hefty "processing" fee.

dek39 - glad you've contacted FTDNA and the Attorney General.

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We have opened enrollment for this year. Members receive a T-Shirt,hat and members certificate,photo ID,and Great oppertunity to build a income up to $1359.00 made in one week by one of our staff. Learn more. Start now. Be a member of The Native American Assoc. *Membership fees and other terms apply. The Native American Assoc. Has history dates back to 1837 join now and see what we can do together as native americans. CAN`T AFFORD MEMBERS FEE! No PROBLEM contact us for more details.

http://nativeamericanassociation.blogspot.com/

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I am chester Rice members dept. Manager and spiritwalker for the NAA. James timberwolf princable chief,nancy rice handcraft native sales and council member,silverhawk authenicator dept.

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Interests    Joining of all tribes to help each other build a future and to protect the value of our calture.

Are you native american? Do your make handmade items? Do you have CDIB card? Are you a member of native american association? If yes to any of the question is yes E-mail us A.S.A.P.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/16282722104405663888

Offline Diana

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I tested my mother with FTDNA, and she had a 5th cousin match whom I contacted with the email she provided:     naamainoffice@gmail.com

I never heard from the match, and now I've been getting twitter inviations from "Roaming Wolf" and other junk from his office. In other word, the match has no control over her DNA or FTDNA account, but the NAA office does.

I've notified FTDNA and the Attorney General in Missouri.

Note that they ask for Social Security numbers.

http://www.nativeamericanassociation.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/099form.pdf


I googled the phone # on the blog site and found "roaming wolf" on you tube with his picture. Looks a little sketchy to me. http://www.youtube.com/user/wolfroaming?feature=watch
Dek39, maybe you should post on his you tube page to stop harassing you???
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