Author Topic: Richard Kincaid-Lake King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis  (Read 68956 times)

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Anyone heard of this guy?
Chief Richard of the Antinanco Metis Nation
King of the Oyatemakoce Sioux

Recieved this email today::

my Grandmother, who was a Yankton/Lakota Sioux Native, claimed to be the Great-Great-Great Granddaughter of Sitting Bull (the famous Hunkpapa Chief/Medicine Man), making me his Great-Great-Great-Great-Great Grandson. In our family tree, all of the dates make perfect sense, and it seems feasible. It is claimed that he had a daughter named, Ziziwin, who later went on to take the name Susan (sometimes referred to as Ziziwin Susan). Does the name Ziziwin appear in the Sitting Bull family list? It would just help to finally solve my family history crisis! 
 
     I myself, and the Chief of the Antinanco Metis Nation, and King of the Oyatemakoce Sioux. I find it very important to honor mine and my peoples' ancestry. Of which, I can do by completing my family history. Any information you provide will be helpful. All you have to do, without consenting that I am a Sitting Bull descendant, is just say yes or no that one of his daughters' names was Zizwin. God I hope so. Thank you for everything! We are all children of Grandmother Earth and have the right to know where we come from.
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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2008, 06:27:12 pm »
http://www.antinanco.org/rich_text.html      That guy is only a King, at least he chose  not to be an  Emperor.             

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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2008, 12:04:23 am »
"The Antinanco Metis Nation was founded on February 18th, 2006 by four Metis people in Oregon, USA.....Antinanco has become an International Recognized, fully-functioning, governmental, indigenous people"

And from their blog:

"Chief Returns Government and Constitution
June 17, 2008His Royal Highness, Paramount Chief Richard II has announced that the government will be back in operation starting June 18th, 2008, after three days of suspension."

"New Titles of Nobility to be GRANTED to worthy Citizens and Friends
June 12, 2008Paramount Chief Richard II has offricially enacted a new statute which will enable him to grant two different titles of Nobility of the tribe, of equal existence. His Royal Highness has enabled the use of the noble titles of Baron and Baroness, with the style of The Honorable."

"Reigning Paramount Chief Renounces Sacred Eagle Throne
April 20, 2008Paramount Chief Richard I has officially abdicated his throne and position and has passed the rights as Paramount Chief to his son and only heir, Chaske Richard, who is now formally known as Paramount Chief Richard II."

Old Paramount is looking for a Paramountess.

www.wireclub.com/Chat/United+States/Eugene?Page=6 
"Free Eugene Web Chat
I am the Paramount Chief of the Antinanco Metis Nation of the United States of America, and am looking for a beautiful woman."

He's got his own blog.

http://thechaske.blogspot.com/
"Hello and Welcome! My name is Richard Kincaid-Lake, but my stage name as an Opera/Pop singer is The Chaske, which is my native title as the son of the Paramount Chief of the Antinanco Metis Nation. Chaske loosly translates as Crown Prince. i love to sing Opera"

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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2008, 01:26:30 am »
OH MY!!!!

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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2008, 03:15:21 am »
Please tell me this is some sort of sick joke....

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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2008, 03:20:46 am »
Have we ever moved a thread from Research Needed to the Comedy Channel?

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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2008, 07:54:23 pm »
This one doesn't even make sense. Really one of the crazier ones  They went out of their way to make it up.

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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2008, 08:39:52 pm »
Ok...hold onto your hats.  Did a google search on Richard Kincaid-Lake.  There's some CRAZY stuff.  Now bear in mind that according to the antinanco site there are two Richards (father and son) so some of these posts might be about one or the other.  Only one of them for sure is the father.

So here we go.

1. First one is from Tribe.net.  Nothing big..the site encourages you to make tribes, but the makeup of the tribe seemed to be the setup for the antinanco and other tribes Richard has made up.

http://tribes.tribe.net/09efde9c-d00e-46ea-ae90-b0f4e6cd5166

2. Here's a forum discussing an article about blood quantum.  You'll find a few posts from the father claiming some crazy things.  Admitting about his son creating a tribe and other crazy things.  His name here is Richard Running Bear Kincaid-Lake and he claims to be full Black Bear Sioux.

http://www.afrigeneas.com/forumearchive/index.cgi?noframes;read=21317

3. Fraudulent entry into Wikipedia making himself king of a made up African tribe and the subsequent posts about its discovery and impending removal.

http://wiki-trust.cse.ucsc.edu/index.php/Paramount_Chief

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hereditary_Prince_Richard_Kincaid-Lake

4. A petition signed by Richard to get the BIA to get rid of blood quantum.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/790929976


Truly someone "out there".  Seems and his son have histories of experimenting to create tribes and governments.  I got one more.  Can't necessarily pin this on the same guys, but it's too similar to believe otherwise. 

This is from allexperts.com and it's a discussion on royalty (Great Britain, et al) and if it's illegal or not to claim royal titles in the US even if you can't necessarily prove it.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Royalty-2983/Branch-Royal-House.htm



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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2008, 08:48:37 pm »
And some more...

Black Bear Lakota Sioux (fraudulent) Tribe

http://bblsip.blogspot.com/2007/09/welcome.html


Profile from Helium.com.  Claiming to chief of BBLS and ANOTHER made up tribe

http://www.helium.com/users/290467


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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2008, 09:16:03 pm »
Wow. OK, I looked up the deleted article he wrote about himself on WP. As he started it as his user page, I think it's fair to assume it's a (fictional) autobio. Here's the deleted article:

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His Serene Highness, Hereditary Prince Richard Kincaid-Lake(born 28 January 1990) is a Scottish/Irish and Métis Prince, the son of Chief Richard Sitting Eagle Lake of the Black Bear Métis Nation and Princess Lucretia I of UFeighmsaa (a scottish/irish noble house). He is a sportsman and model who occasionally appears on the stage for comedy, acting, and his specialty, Opera.

Hereditary Prince Richard
Hereditary Prince of the Noble House of UFeighmsaa (more...)
Reign    January 28, 1990 to present (17 years)
Predecessor    Lucretia I
Heir Apparent    Princess Nancy, Countess of Bellington
Full name
Richard Kincaid-Lake
Detail
Titles and styles
HSH The Hereditary Prince
HSH Prince Richard, Marquis of Huntington
TRH The Marquis of Huntington
HH Hereditary Chief of the Black Bear Métis Nation
Royal house    House of UFeighmsaa
Father    Duke of Huntington
Mother    Princess Lucretia I, Duchess of Huntington
Born    January 28, 1990 (1990-01-28) (age 18)
Oregon , USA
Baptised    December 31, 1999
Oregon, USA[1]

Hereditary Prince Richard Kincaid-Lake
House of UFeighmsaa
Born: 8 March 1925 Died: 21 August 2005
Preceded by
Princess Lucretia I    Hereditary Prince of UFeighmsaa
1990-Actual    Incumbent
Designated heir:
Princess Nancy

He even made infoboxes to make it look like pages of legit royalty, with nav buttons for former and successive "rulers". Wow.

Some of his other attempts at contributing to WP: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Special:Contributions/Royalty90

(Note, his "work" on deleted pages is not shown, only attempts to change existing pages.)

User talk page, which is pretty funny as he was warned about creating hoaxes: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User_talk:Royalty90

He wasn't persistent enough to get himself blocked from the site. Though if he tries that sort of thing again... 

The mind boggles.
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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2008, 12:17:03 pm »
King of the Oyatemakoce Sioux, huh? He may as well be queen of the wannabe tribe too. A person thinks they've seen it all until something like this pops up. Hail! King of the Sioux! LOL

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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2008, 11:12:25 pm »
hmmm wanna be tribe and spoofing SCA??? 

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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2008, 11:59:31 pm »
hmmm wanna be tribe and spoofing SCA??? 

It is true he reminds me of some of the ignorant, arrogant crazies we've had turn up in Gaelic online fora, confusing their SCA activities with actual history and living communities. What's creepy is when they seem to believe it, when they seem to really believe they are Kings and whatnot (and even more bizarre, demand that others recognize them as such). It's funny from a distance, but some of them are really warped, and not so much fun for people with the ill-fortune to know them in person.


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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2008, 12:48:46 am »
He want the tribe to say he was a direct descendant of Sitting Bull
He say that he is Sioux from a woman named ziziwin. I wrote back
and told he was not. He told me that we did not know Sitting Bull history
I told we did and had a complete history of Sitting Bull, we are Sitting Bull people.
He said he was told that Sitting Bull had many wives he left all over.
What??
Anyway I informed he is not from my nation and can't not claim to be
a descendnat of Sitting Bull
This guy is crazy and he believe himself.
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Re: Richard Kincaid King of the Sioux, Una Tribe, Antinanco Metis
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2008, 03:15:31 am »
Tansi;

While I am fairly certain that the Sioux did not have any "King", I am absolutely certain that we Metis do not have "Chiefs."

I don't think that this one is in need of further research! 

Ric