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General => Frauds => Topic started by: educatedindian on May 31, 2013, 04:00:52 pm
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Got a request about him. Says he's Mohawk, operates in Sedona.
http://sedonaquestadventures.com/about-us.html
http://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/profile/JosephCosgrove
http://elephanttribe.org/blog/?p=657
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.w.wolf
http://www.bringingheaventoearth.com/weddings.html
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File ID 495747
Description Trade Name
Status Active
Name JOSEPH WHITE WOLF SHAMAN
Address 1 PO BOX 3652
City SEDONA
State AZ
ZIP 86340-
Business Type COUNCELING
Domestic Begin Date 7/1/2010
Registered Date 7/19/2010
Owner JANIS DANIEL DEES PO BOX 3652 SEDONA AZ
http://www.azsos.gov/scripts/TNT_Search_engine.dll/ZoomTNT?NME_ID=495747&NME_CODE=NME (http://www.azsos.gov/scripts/TNT_Search_engine.dll/ZoomTNT?NME_ID=495747&NME_CODE=NME)
Agent ID 1012463
Lastname DEES
Firstname JANIS
Middle DANIEL
Address 1 PO BOX 3652
City SEDONA
State AZ
ZIP 86340-
Agent/Owner References File ID Type Status Name Code Begin End
495747 Trade Name Active JOSEPH WHITE WOLF SHAMAN OWNER 7/1/2010
539975 Trade Name Active BEST HEALTH 4 PAWS OWNER 2/4/2012
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North Ontario Canadian Native (Mohawk family)
His father was a great wilderness teacher and fur trapper.
http://sedonaquestadventures.com/about-us.html (http://sedonaquestadventures.com/about-us.html)
He's the only person that uses "North Ontario Canadian Native" online.
If he lives at the address that Best Health 4 Paws in Sedona is listed at, he may be Joseph Daniel.
http://www.besthealthfourpaws.com/cgi-bin/showcase.pl?action=home2&venue=v0&p1=&p2= (http://www.besthealthfourpaws.com/cgi-bin/showcase.pl?action=home2&venue=v0&p1=&p2=)
Best Health 4 Paws corporation is owned by Janis Daniel Dees, who looks to also go by Sophia JanTara. http://www.sophiajantara.com/cgi-bin/showcase.pl?action=home2&venue=v0&p1=&p2= (http://www.sophiajantara.com/cgi-bin/showcase.pl?action=home2&venue=v0&p1=&p2=)
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The link that Al posted above for Ashtar Command says Joseph Cosgrove, so could that possibly be his given name?
He is also listed on this site, but the link does not work. Just look at the company he keeps: http://corporateshamanway.com/pages/resources.html
How can he be both a Canadian and a "Native American Shaman"?
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Janis Daniel Dees is a nutritional consultant in the field of veterinary medicine.
http://web.archive.org/web/20050211050816/http://home.earthlink.net/~janiscares/index.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20050211050816/http://home.earthlink.net/~janiscares/index.html)
I think you are right Autumn on his name, he used it here too:
http://www.worldviewzmedia.net/profile/JosephCosgrove (http://www.worldviewzmedia.net/profile/JosephCosgrove)
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His daughter's surname is Cosgrove. Info via his Facebook page.
Daughter and other Cosgroves on his FB are in North Bay Ontario area.
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Join like-minded travelers in experiencing the incredible peace and beauty Sedona, Arizona has to offer. We will be guided by Joseph White Wolf; a Native American Shaman and teacher.
His guidance and insight offer profound contemplations and inspiration in growth of spirit. His sharing of love through the beauty of the sacred land with which he is wholly connected raises ones consciousness in expansive ways. You will find that even though in a group setting, through the gift of his true heart and engaging stories of nature and spirit, your own personal spiritual message will reverberate.
He will guide you through Sedona’s amazing natural sights which include stunning vistas, sacred places, vortex locations and short hikes through peaceful canyons.
You will also experience first-hand personal insights in the medicine wheel ceremony Joseph performs individually. Through his knowledge of sacred Native American ways he offers his teachings and intuition in assisting you in recognizing your life’s direction and flow.
Through walks in the astounding, healing vortexes of the canyons and mesas of Sedona, Joseph gently shares, guides and directs spirit through the subtle energies of the natural beauty in which you are immersed.
(emphasis mine)
http://www.wintermathematics.info/sedona-enlightenment-retreats/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRiWuT5Wkjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRiWuT5Wkjo)
Meditation, "breath work", "dolphin medicine", totem.
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He's on the "team" of this Elephant Tribe http://elephanttribe.org/ourteam.html (http://elephanttribe.org/ourteam.html)
Jan 2013:
Shaman Walk and Medicine Wheel with Joseph White Wolf, a Native American Shaman. Approximately a 2 hour walk. Meeting Time and Place: 1 PM at Annenberg Community Beach House located at 415 Pacific Coast Hwy, Santa Monica, CA
http://elephanttribe.org/events.html (http://elephanttribe.org/events.html)
Domain Name:ELEPHANTTRIBE.ORG
Registrant Name:Henrik Vesterman
The trailer for their film Moon of the Changing Seasons http://elephanttribe.org/blog/?p=748 (http://elephanttribe.org/blog/?p=748)
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He's on the "team" of this Elephant Tribe http://elephanttribe.org/ourteam.html (http://elephanttribe.org/ourteam.html)
Jan 2013:
Shaman Walk and Medicine Wheel with Joseph White Wolf, a Native American Shaman. Approximately a 2 hour walk. Meeting Time and Place: 1 PM at Annenberg Community Beach House located at 415 Pacific Coast Hwy, Santa Monica, CA
http://elephanttribe.org/events.html (http://elephanttribe.org/events.html)
Domain Name:ELEPHANTTRIBE.ORG
Registrant Name:Henrik Vesterman
The trailer for their film Moon of the Changing Seasons http://elephanttribe.org/blog/?p=748 (http://elephanttribe.org/blog/?p=748)
I looked at that elephant tribe too, and found it was full of frauds including our friend William two feathers. His interview with some European is on there, the one where he claims special forces w/the Marines and a kung fu expert. Hmmm....seems like this Joseph white wolf is in good company.
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And he is teaching others to "follow in his footsteps". ;D ;D ;D
Theresa Fernandes "The Charmed One"
Intuitive and empathic since a child, Theresa has spent 20+ years researching and experimenting with various modalities and practices including Shamanism, apprenticing under Native American Shaman Joseph White Wolf, (North Ontario Canadian Mohawk) and gifted healer and teacher Sylvia Golbin, embracing the teachings of The Munay-ki and the Four Winds Society.
Theresa uses her Charm Bag, Tarot and various other Oracle cards to guide you on your way to a better understanding of yourself and what you can be. Theresa counsels, mentors, and empowers people to get to their "core" to make life changes; "a catalyst for change."
(Emphasis Mine)
http://www.corewellnessct.com/about-2/
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I received an account saying the following about Cosgrove's family:
Thomas and Curtis Cosgrove are his sons. Sarah Cosgrove is his daughter. Larry Cosgrove is his Father. JWW claims his NDN ancestry comes from his paternal great grandmother.
JWW's name that he used until a few years ago was Daniel or Danny. Full legal name is Joseph Daniel Rirt Cosgrove. Until ten years ago, a locksmith in Ontario.
This ceremony selling notice is on elephantribe.org. Moved to Frauds.
There are other allegations of outright criminal wrongdoing that I won't post unless or until there's proof.
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Joseph White Wolf - Chicago Special Event
Come journey in the magical mystery of life!
Joseph White Wolf will be in Chicago from July 3 - July 8, 2013 and will be available for one-on-one or group sessions within the city.
Transition from what seems an ordinary world, and perhaps life, to jumping off a cliff and free-falling into the endless opportunities that mother nature constantly shines upon you. The experience of life occurs every day. Your interpretation of and how you act upon these precious moments and events plays a big part in the direction you take how your life unfolds. Using the tools of the Medicine Wheel, Dream interpretation, Animal Totems, Letting-Go-Ceremony and other positive enriching tools, together we will unleash your inner-adventure of becoming a fully satisfied you living to your full potential of being in the a limitless and symbolic world of dreams and possibilities.
Open the door to an experience -- You can set up a time by joining via Facebook, calling (928)254-1470, or emailing Joseph at josephwhitewolf@hotmail.com
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Day III
Sweat lodge: With Joseph White Wolf. This is a day we open up to spirit in profound ways for healing, path-finding, soul searching and re-awakening.
Part of a 3 day package, entire package cost: $1,495/person
http://sedonaquestadventures.com/package-plans.html (http://sedonaquestadventures.com/package-plans.html)
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I received an account saying the following about Cosgrove's family:
Thomas and Curtis Cosgrove are his sons. Sarah Cosgrove is his daughter. Larry Cosgrove is his Father.
JWW's name that he used until a few years ago was Daniel or Danny.
Social media and public records do confirm all this. His children's names and his father.
His father Larry Cosgrove performs country music as "The Singing Trapper", and identifies as "trapper ... music" on his Linkedin profile, so that fits JWW's description of his father as a trapper.
At the time of JWW's mother's passing, he was listed in the obit as "Dan Cosgrove".
http://www.mcguintyfuneralhome.com/obits/obituary.php?id=238593 (http://www.mcguintyfuneralhome.com/obits/obituary.php?id=238593). Her name Carol Ann Cosgrove, born Carol Ann Mary Henrietta Smith.
Found his parent's marriage certificate.
Oddly enough, he looks to be the only person in his family who identifies as Mohawk.
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I received an account saying the following about Cosgrove's family:
JWW claims his NDN ancestry comes from his paternal great grandmother.
One of his paternal great grandmothers is Pearl Etta Louise Delorie, wife of Isaac Doucette. That family can be followed back through the Drouin Collection records. The other is believed to be (unsourced family trees state this) Sophia Vaillancourt, wife of Thomas Cosgrove.
I've not found any First Nation heritage listed in public records for these women or their respective parents.
Only see this:
Racial or Tribal Origin: French
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Roman Catholic
Only variation on that theme I've found so far is Thomas Cosgrove, he was born Canada, in 1911 Ontario census he is listed as Tribal: Irish. Thomas Cosgrove's grandparents were both from Ireland.
JWW might have more distant heritage, or the records might not accurately reflect his heritage.
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Finally in January 2010 (by which time my cancer—which all my doctors say that is the most aggressive breast cancer they have ever seen—had metastasized all over the place) I found a clever and powerful shaman called Joseph White Wolf who could help me permanently. He said that Guy worked with coyote (trickster) energy so can disguise what he does. The breakthrough occurred when Joseph looked very carefully until he discovered a beehive-structure that Guy had installed in me. It looked beneficial at first perusal, which is why my healers before missed it. But it turns that buried in it was a festering curse that was feeding my sickness. After this was carefully and incrementally removed, my shaman changed my “spiritual address” so that Guy could no longer attack me.
I definitely feel better since then spiritually. But it is not clear if my cancer—which has snowballed into an uncontrolled state—will be able to stop in time.
http://fraudthetahealing.com/whyviannasmear.html (http://fraudthetahealing.com/whyviannasmear.html)
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Finally in January 2010 (by which time my cancer—which all my doctors say that is the most aggressive breast cancer they have ever seen—had metastasized all over the place) I found a clever and powerful shaman called Joseph White Wolf who could help me permanently. He said that Guy worked with coyote (trickster) energy so can disguise what he does. The breakthrough occurred when Joseph looked very carefully until he discovered a beehive-structure that Guy had installed in me. It looked beneficial at first perusal, which is why my healers before missed it. But it turns that buried in it was a festering curse that was feeding my sickness. After this was carefully and incrementally removed, my shaman changed my “spiritual address” so that Guy could no longer attack me.
I definitely feel better since then spiritually. But it is not clear if my cancer—which has snowballed into an uncontrolled state—will be able to stop in time.
http://fraudthetahealing.com/whyviannasmear.html (http://fraudthetahealing.com/whyviannasmear.html)
Sadly, Joseph White Wolf did not help her. She passed in January 2012. Her husband was Dr. Dean Howell, which she referenced on her website: http://fraudthetahealing.com/resources.html
HOWELL, TRISHA (FIKE) Feb. 6, 1962 to Jan. 2, 2012 Born Patricia Bennett Fike in Anchorage, Alaska. She moved to San Diego in 1973, graduated from San Diego High School 1980. Trisha is survived by her husband Dr. Dean Howell and her mother Frances Thomas Fike. Her father William Jewell Fike died in 1979. Memorial at Clairemont Mortuary, 2 p.m. Saturday, February 4, 2012.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/utsandiego/obituary.aspx?pid=155670078#fbLoggedOut
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I met this man Joseph White Wolf in Sedona and was quite impressed with him. Then I searched his name and found this site. I was very upset to think that I had been decived. So the next time I saw Joseph, I confronted him about it and he showed me his identity card. It was issued by the League of Indian Nations of North America, North Bay Ontario chapter. I did some research on the Internet and called their chapter office. They confirmed that he IS who he says is. To get this ID card requires your complete family history and a long form birth certificate.
Their website is http://www.linna.org and their phone number is 705-472-0777. You can confirm it for yourself if you’re REALLY interested in the truth. The office is only open 2 days a week in the summer, so you’ll have to be patient about getting through.
It’s good to expose fraud, but those who choose to make it their mission in life have a serious obligation to be sure of the truth BEFORE they speak. So now I’m upset with NAFPS. I think you are doing a hatchet job on Joseph White Wolf with statements like, “There are other allegations of outright criminal wrongdoing that I won't post unless or until there's proof.” To make a statement like that and leave it there IS making an allegation already!
To call someone a fraud means that they are deceptive and dishonest. Just because someone believes differently than you doesn’t mean they’re a fraud. I ended up speaking with Joseph for several hours that day. My sense of him is that he’s far too gentle and kind-hearted to speak out against anyone, so I doubt he will ever post a response on this site. It’s just not his way. When I asked him what he was going to do about the allegations he said, “I tried to contact them to talk but they refused, so now there’s nothing else that needs to be done. I think they must be really angry people. I do what I do because I’m guided by Creator to do it, and I don’t have time to waste on that”.
In person he’s very clear about who he is: part Irish, part Mohawk and Algonquin. He also seems very at peace with that. He doesn’t identify exclusively with any one race or culture. I think he’s like many other people of mixed heritage in that he’s been forced to find his own path in life, and he’s chosen to spend it helping others. He confirmed that at one time he was a locksmith, but so what? He also confirmed that his father had been a trapper and is now an entertainer known as The Singing Trapper. So what?
In person Joseph is very humble and didn’t claim to be a “shaman”. He identifies himself as a spiritual teacher. He said people on the Internet had placed all kinds of labels on him, such as shaman and fraud. Perhaps the problem here is that he’s out trying to help others and he’s not a publicist. My opinion is that people need to stop exploiting him. If you are really interested in the truth you will remove him from your site and do the research. Of course, if you are more interested in the money your .org can get from donors than you are the truth, you'll probably leave his name on your site and never make that call.
I’ve given my testimony and that’s all I have to say in this forum -- because I don’t have time to waste either.
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1. I met this man Joseph White Wolf in Sedona and was quite impressed with him.
2. I confronted him about it and he showed me his identity card. It was issued by the League of Indian Nations of North America, North Bay Ontario chapter. I did some research on the Internet and called their chapter office. They confirmed that he IS who he says is. To get this ID card requires your complete family history and a long form birth certificate.
3. Their website is http://www.linna.org
4. I think you are doing a hatchet job on Joseph White Wolf with statements like, “There are other allegations of outright criminal wrongdoing that I won't post unless or until there's proof.” To make a statement like that and leave it there IS making an allegation already!
5. To call someone a fraud means that they are deceptive and dishonest. Just because someone believes differently than you doesn’t mean they’re a fraud.
6. When I asked him what he was going to do about the allegations he said, “I tried to contact them to talk but they refused, so now there’s nothing else that needs to be done. I think they must be really angry people. I do what I do because I’m guided by Creator to do it, and I don’t have time to waste on that”.
7. My opinion is that people need to stop exploiting him.
8. If you are really interested in the truth you will remove him from your site and do the research.
9. Of course, if you are more interested in the money your .org can get from donors than you are the truth, you'll probably leave his name on your site and never make that call.
10. I’ve given my testimony and that’s all I have to say in this forum -- because I don’t have time to waste either.
1. You didn't say why you were impressed. Since you sought him out in Sedona, my guess is, like many others, he told you what you wanted to hear, lots of fluff.
2.Actually the LINA website does not say one has to be enrolled. Someone who is a descendant, as we ourselves said before, can get a card.
So ironically you just confirmed what we already said in our research.
3. Actually it's www.linna.ca. ironically you weren't careful with the facts.
4.Just the opposite, it's being careful NOT to make a false allegation. And it's also calling for further investigation.
5. The problem is Cosgrove is selling non-Native beliefs as Native. That is fraud, and deception, and it's done for money.
Were he to relabel himself accurately as someone of distant Native ancestry with no understanding of Native traditions selling Nuage beliefs, then he would not be a fraud.
6.Cosgrove has made absolutely NO effort to contact anyone here.
If you'd bothered to check, you know, actually do some research and know your facts, you'd see that frauds come here all the time to try and defend themselves. We welcome them. Often they can clear up unclear facts.
At other times, their own words are used to hang them, as Cosgrove has done by being exposed now as a liar.
And of course Cosgrove goes into the usual Nuage fluffy line, that somehow anger is a bad thing.
Come on, do you really expect Natives will never get mad given all the abuse done?
And clearly you're far angrier in your defense of Cosgrove than anything we've said. It's got you so angry you're almost sputtering. That's why you keep making these obvious mistakes.
7. Our opinion is that he needs to quit exploiting his distant Native ancestry and come clear about being purely a fluffy Nuage practitioner who gets people killed because he doesn't know how to actually heal.
8. Why would we? All the evidence you provided confirms our research.
If you were truly interested in the truth you'd quit defending an incompetent fraud posing as a Native healer, and you'd actually do the research you falsely accuse others of not doing.
9 . ::) What money would that be? If anything, we LOSE money, all of us. We are all volunteers. No one is paid anything. And the website is given to use for free by others who believe in what we do. Before that, we paid for the site ourselves every year for many years.
But you would know that...if you had bothered to do your research and were truly interested in the truth.
10. IOW, like Mr Cosgrove, you're going to stomp your feet like a kid on the playground and stick your fingers in your ears while going "La la la, can't hear you." Very immature, and it does not help Cosgrove one bit.
Let us know if you grow up, and then we'd be glad to talk.
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In person Joseph is very humble and didn’t claim to be a “shaman”. He identifies himself as a spiritual teacher. He said people on the Internet had placed all kinds of labels on him, such as shaman and fraud.
Not only does he claim to be a shaman, it is a registered name:
Registered Name
General Information File ID 495747
Description Trade Name
Status Active
Name JOSEPH WHITE WOLF SHAMAN
Address 1 PO BOX 3652
City SEDONA
State AZ
ZIP 86340-
Business Type COUNCELING
Domestic Begin Date 7/1/2010
Registered Date 7/19/2010
http://www.azsos.gov/scripts/TNT_Search_engine.dll/ZoomTNT?NME_ID=495747&NME_CODE=NME (http://www.azsos.gov/scripts/TNT_Search_engine.dll/ZoomTNT?NME_ID=495747&NME_CODE=NME)
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Called to follow the Shaman's path, Joseph's gift of healing and teaching manifests itself through his ability to work in Dream-time. His wisdom has been a great inspiration to many people.
Joseph will be your guide during Sweat Lodge, medicine wheel, and other ceremonies.There are those who come to Sedona to experience indigenous teachings, and Joseph is one you can count on to be authentic, he is a true healer and Shaman.
http://sedonaquestadventures.com/about-us.html (http://sedonaquestadventures.com/about-us.html)
This is from the About Us page of SedonaQuest Adventures, listing only two people - Joseph White Wolf and Jim Law. Good bet that Joseph had something to do with this description.
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And just once more with the "shaman", in this video he is introduced as a "Native American Shaman" by the woman interviewer he is shoulder to shoulder with. http://theskinnytips.com/154/ (http://theskinnytips.com/154/) He does not object, clarify, or change her description of him.
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Dear Mr. Carroll,
I took your response to heart and did my research on you and your organization. I had a lot of reading to do, so it’s taken me some time. Here is what I have to say to you and all others reading this site. Know this [lots of cloying irrelevance and condescending racism deleted]
You asked me why I was so impressed with Joseph White Wolf. [rambling deleted] I first met Joseph sitting beside a trail in Sedona at sunrise [irrelevant fluff delete] I started seeing Joseph by the trail two years ago… always in the same place, always alone, and always in prayer and meditation. [rambling sanctimony removed] but it impressed me. We eventually spoke to each other and became acquaintances. I never paid him a single penny and he never offered to perform any Native American “ceremonies” for me.
Perhaps you’re thinking that I have some burning desire to participate in Native American ceremonies or discover some secret knowledge that only Native American people possess? If so, you’re very sadly mistaken. The vision quest, the sweat lodge, the sun dance and the peyote church have no allure for me...[more rambling]
[yet more rambling and more than a few lies]
I’ve found no anger at all in Joseph’s heart. Nor in the Navajo half of my son-in-law’s heart. Nor in the hearts of most other Native Americans I’ve had the pleasure to know over the years. But I’ve also been to Pine Ridge and San Carlos and I definitely saw it there. In my experience anger over the past isn’t a universal trait among Native Americans, it’s specific to some individuals and tribes… and the suffering on those reservations where it is strongest is truly heartbreaking.
Did Joseph tell me what I wanted to hear? I’ll leave that up to you to decide Mr. Carroll. What Joseph told me was that the day is coming when all the people of the world would sit down together at one table in prayer and ceremony and true brotherhood with each other. He said that this day would come because the Creator wants it to be so. In saying that he allowed me to believe that Native American culture had something beautiful to offer the global community… something far more profound than anger, casinos, tax free cigarettes and trading post trinkets. Do you think he was he lying to me?
[yet more rambling]
You accuse him of not being true to the fundamentalist teachings of Native America. I find that funny, because someone from the Westboro Baptist Church recently told me I wasn’t a true Christian. It happened when they came to Prescott to protest homosexuality at the memorial service for 19 fallen firefighters, none of whom were homosexual. The good and righteous people from Westboro Baptist really just wanted to use the memorial service to get attention from the media.
You speak of using people’s words to hang them. Is that what you really want to do? Hang people? How will you hang me Mr. Carroll… now that you have heard a tiny bit of my story? I’m sure a man a clever and witty as you will find a way. Have it your way, but keep in mind that when you set yourself up as the judge, jury and executioner it’s not justice, it’s a lynching. Perhaps in my case you will recount all the abuses of Christianity. I’m well aware of them. It was inevitable that Native American people and the rest of the world would meet. If you truly love Native culture then you should be grateful that it was the Christians who came first and not the Wahhabe fundamentalists, for they believe in conversion by the sword. If they had come first there wouldn’t be a Native ceremony happening anywhere in the New World today.
[yet more rambling and sanctimonious condescending racism]
I see you’re a history teacher and that you claim to be part Mescalero Apache. Then you should know that the Mescalero part of your blood line is guilty too. As I understand it the Apaches were a peaceful gathering and hunting culture when they lived in the North, but once they arrived in the Southwest they soon became a warrior culture focused on raiding and the taking of slaves.
It’s my understanding that this warrior culture reached a point where it was considered unmanly for an Apache male to work for a living because honor lay in taking what you wanted from your enemy -- and the enemy was anyone who wasn’t a relative. Mr. Carroll, you should know that it was the Apaches who attacked and destroyed the peaceful Zuni village of Hawikuh in 1672, killing hundreds and enslaving ALL of the survivors. Would you say that was an Indian-on-Indian attempt at genocide? Sure sounds like it to me. What the Apaches had to learn the hard way is that it’s just no fun being a warrior if you can’t keep up with technology and it’s your people being massacred.
As a history teacher you should know it’s a myth that Cortez and his men conquered the Aztecs alone. In reality they had tens thousands of willing Native allies -- people who were eager to help because they had been brutally abused by the Aztecs and wished to be free of them. I agree with history’s assessment of Cortez as an evil man only interested in gold, but it was actually the genocide that the Aztecs were perpetrating on other tribes that ultimately allowed the Spanish to prevail in that instance. When the human sacrifices finally stopped, the sun didn’t change its behavior.
I see that you are also part Mexican. As I understand it the Mexicans and Apaches absolutely hated each other. So perhaps there’s a war of self-hatred going on inside of you Mr Conner. If Arvol Looking Horse has been unable to heal this for you, maybe it’s because deep down inside he really does believe in racial purity. I don’t know him so I can’t say. I suggest you talk to Joseph White Wolf, for he shares your genetic imperfection and has managed to overcome it. Better yet talk to God, for all things can be healed through him.
Do I mind that Joseph White Wolf gets paid for the spiritual teaching he does with others? Absolutely not. In fact, I wish there were a lot more people like him. You’re a teacher Mr. Carroll, and you DO get paid, don’t you? If you feel that strongly about not charging money for teaching, perhaps you should set an example and offer your own classes on a donation basis. It’s my belief that the world needs forward looking spiritual teachers at this moment far more than it needs another backward looking history teacher trying to twist the story to suit themselves, which most them do in my experience. I see that Arvol Looking Horse has some books and DVD’s for sale as well, but it’s not place to judge him. In fact, my religion forbids me to judge on God’s behalf.
The only thing I agree with you about is that some people are being lied to by other people who claim to be spiritual. It’s part of their journey together and their learning process. It’s not my place to interfere with anyone’s learning process.
[more rambling]
So perhaps the greatest fraud of all is that which is being perpetrated on Native American children who live on those reservations where anger over the colonial past is still rampant -- and the suffering from alcoholism, poverty, domestic violence, obesity and diabetes is absolutely astounding. If the “genuine” full-blooded healers you claim to be protecting really had special powers, the rate of alcohol abuse wouldn’t be the highest, and the average life expectancy wouldn’t be the lowest of any group in the U.S. Perhaps what’s really going on here is similar to what’s happening with Muslim clerics -- they’re afraid of losing influence and control over their people.
If your website is any indication, each new generation on the Pine Ridge Reservation is inheriting the anger of their parents by being told that their victimization is somehow special and they must never join in prayer and ceremony with the larger world community. They’re being told their ceremonies are the one true religion. Interesting… because the Wahhabi fundamentalists of Al Qaeda have been taught the same thing. Fundamentalist Christians believe it too, but please don’t count me among that group. Perhaps the modern world and the technological experiment that started with agriculture will collapse one day as fundamentalists everywhere seem to want, but if so I suspect we’ll all go together, so maybe it’s best not to hope for that.
At the end of the day, after all your heat and noise Mr. Carroll, have any of the people you label as frauds on your site ever been arrested or gone out of business? Or have you only made them more famous? In all my searching I couldn’t find any evidence that you’ve actually accomplished anything of importance.
[yet more rambling and Nuage fluff]
It’s my prayer that what we’re seeing in Al Qaeda, the Westboro Baptist Church, at Pine Ridge, and on your site is the last dying gasp of fundamentalism. The only race I choose to belong to is the human race, because that’s the only way forward into the future.
[bizarre mix of childish insults, condescending racism, and Nuage fluff]
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WTF is this person named Al Conner?
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WTF is this person named Al Conner?
She obviously did not do the "research" she said she did. Bless you, Yukotak, and good luck.
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I couldn't read the whole thing. My head hurts. But I would suggest that if you are going to "educate" someone, at least get btheir name right!
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I cant believe this woman wrote this racist piece like she was not talking to
Native People, She dont even claim her Japanese blood she is an american
what a shame, My people are still very much alive and we do not claim to have special powers
what is wrong with this woman all she is doing is spread sterotypes
So perhaps the greatest fraud of all is that which is being perpetrated on Native American children who live on those reservations where anger over the colonial past is still rampant -- and the suffering from alcoholism, poverty, domestic violence, obesity and diabetes is absolutely astounding. If the “genuine” full-blooded healers you claim to be protecting really had special powers, the rate of alcohol abuse wouldn’t be the highest, and the average life expectancy wouldn’t be the lowest of any group in the U.S. Perhaps what’s really going on here is similar to what’s happening with Muslim clerics -- they’re afraid of losing influence and control over their people.
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I can believe she is really that racist. The church that she grew up taught her all kinds of bigotry about who is and is not "civilized" and that's the filter through which she sees the world, in spite of her own ethnicity.
It's been a long time since I've seen someone so tangled up in knots, filled with racist hatred that she fails to mask with fluffy sentiments.
I removed a lot of the fluffy gibberish. It was pretty revealing that she refuses to call Cosgrove by his actual name, and that she felt the need to try and spam by starting a new thread
Of course, since she was utterly unable and unwilling to deal with several basic facts:
Cosgrove is exactly what we said he is, and she confirmed that fact, but is stuck in denial.
He's a failure as a healer in addition to being a ceremony seller.
And his very limited success is due to precisely telling fluffy minded people what they would like to be true.
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I read Yukotak's entire "manuscript" yesterday, apparently influenced by Joseph Cosgrove -- and, as sometimes things have a way of doing, something about it kept in my mind as not adding up. I came back today hoping that I would be able to pinpoint the area, but unfortunately it was part of the "fluff" that Al deleted.
Maybe someone here can help me in filling in what I am trying to recall. She said she had not seen Joseph Cosgrove in a while, but I cannot recall whether that was months or longer. This thread was started in late May 2013 and she first posted in early September 2013. She said she had read our posts, confronted him about the charges, then checked out his identity card, and then posted here in his defense. She also said he told her he had tried to contact us. This all happened in a relatively short period of time, a period of three months.
I also found this interesting. He has changed his story online, which is what Yukotak said he told her:
Today I offer myself not as a Native American, Irish, French or any other race/religion or culture but as a loving friend and teacher of what I have learned along my spiritual path of life... My teachings of love don't represent any certain tribe or race but have come to me by way of spirit in watching and listening to my plant and animal friends as well as great spirit... People have chosen to call me many things but I choose to be known simply as "a spiritual teacher."
http://sedonaquestadventures.com/about-us.html
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I read Yukotak's entire "manuscript" yesterday, apparently influenced by Joseph Cosgrove -- and, as sometimes things have a way of doing, something about it kept in my mind as not adding up. I came back today hoping that I would be able to pinpoint the area, but unfortunately it was part of the "fluff" that Al deleted.
Maybe someone here can help me in filling in what I am trying to recall. She said she had not seen Joseph Cosgrove in a while, but I cannot recall whether that was months or longer. This thread was started in late May 2013 and she first posted in early September 2013. She said she had read our posts, confronted him about the charges, then checked out his identity card, and then posted here in his defense. She also said he told her he had tried to contact us. This all happened in a relatively short period of time, a period of three months.
I also found this interesting. He has changed his story online, which is what Yukotak said he told her:
Today I offer myself not as a Native American, Irish, French or any other race/religion or culture but as a loving friend and teacher of what I have learned along my spiritual path of life... My teachings of love don't represent any certain tribe or race but have come to me by way of spirit in watching and listening to my plant and animal friends as well as great spirit... People have chosen to call me many things but I choose to be known simply as "a spiritual teacher."
http://sedonaquestadventures.com/about-us.html
It does seem like Yukotak is in much closer contact with Cosgrove than she claimed. Either she or another follower keeps him closely informed of everything we do and say about him, or Cosgove does so himself.
I certainly take Cosgrove no longer presenting himself as a Native healer as a very helpful and hopeful sign.
And it certainly shows Yukotak's claim we have no effect to be false. There are plenty of other signs obviously...
Let me make this offer to Cosgrove, publicly, and either he or the followers of his who keep him informed can tell him...
Mr. Cosgrove, I think if you no longer sell any ceremony claiming to be Native, then you are no concern of ours.
When someone does the right thing ethically, we move the thread to Archives and mark it NO LONGER A MATTER OF CONCERN.
Let me ask the forum as a whole, this latest action of Cosgrove's plus what else could get him moved out of Frauds?
I'm a bit concerned that much of the rest of his page still gives the impression he's selling Native healing. If it were to reflect that he now simply says he's selling his own ceremonies, or specifically New Age and not Native ones, then he could be moved out of Frauds.
I had planned to respond to Yukotak's looooong rambling attacks today, especially since she has some truly bizarre racism that needed to be taken apart point by point. But I don't want anything to distract from that, so I'll wait a while to see if Cosgrove responds and is willing to change more.
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I read Yukotak's entire "manuscript" yesterday, apparently influenced by Joseph Cosgrove -- and, as sometimes things have a way of doing, something about it kept in my mind as not adding up. I came back today hoping that I would be able to pinpoint the area, but unfortunately it was part of the "fluff" that Al deleted.
Maybe someone here can help me in filling in what I am trying to recall. She said she had not seen Joseph Cosgrove in a while, but I cannot recall whether that was months or longer. This thread was started in late May 2013 and she first posted in early September 2013. She said she had read our posts, confronted him about the charges, then checked out his identity card, and then posted here in his defense. She also said he told her he had tried to contact us. This all happened in a relatively short period of time, a period of three months.
I also found this interesting. He has changed his story online, which is what Yukotak said he told her:
Today I offer myself not as a Native American, Irish, French or any other race/religion or culture but as a loving friend and teacher of what I have learned along my spiritual path of life... My teachings of love don't represent any certain tribe or race but have come to me by way of spirit in watching and listening to my plant and animal friends as well as great spirit... People have chosen to call me many things but I choose to be known simply as "a spiritual teacher."
http://sedonaquestadventures.com/about-us.html
Hi Al, I agree with Autumn. I read yukotak's racist rant before you edited it. Of course it was vulgar and disgusting, but I think you should let it stand by it's self and let everyone know the type of company or friends this phony Wolf/Cosgrove person keeps. Please reconsider and re-post the original racist letter. It's people like yukotat/wolf/cosgrove and thier racist attacks and phony claims of Indian heritage that actually help make our position.
Lim lemtsh,
Diana
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I just read the infamous Yukotat racist screed (already edited) today. I'm surprised my head didn't explode.
To Yukotat: So a mixed race person is "genetically imperfect"? Do you feel that way about yourself or your Navajo son-in-law or your kids and future grandchildren? What would your friends and family think of you if they saw the way you describe people who live on reservations or who are multiracial or who are members of other groups you disparaged in your post?
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It seems that we have people who can claim to be who they are not, >:( that charm people into believe that they are something that they are not >:( then we have people who have trouble in their own life who come to these people for help then claim these people are special, because they told them what they wanted to hear at their time they need to hear it >:(.
Then they make decisions about who we are (Native People) as a people because we dont accept the frauds.
How can these people make racist comment about a people they dont know and because they have a relative who is native,
This person is a fraud who just like HIlter who charmed people into believiin what he said was true. A fraud is a fraud
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This was passed on to me. Cosgrove's girlfriend Monica Zaffarano helps him sell ceremonies online through Facebook's Elephant Tribe site. As of late June Cosgrove was still promoting himself as not just a healer but a medicine man, and Algonquin as well as Mohawk.
If Cosgrove has truly changed, let's see it.
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Monica Zaffarano 5:42pm Jun 28
To my friends, this isn't an "event" it is Joseph taking sessions one on one with folks interested...
He is a Mohawk/Algonquin medicine man. Originally from northern ontario but currently residing in Sedona.
Recently he has begun traveling....with his drum, medicine bag and a whole lot of love to offer all who might be interested and curious in seeking deeper meaning to Life.
People travel from all points in the world to have sessions with him, many returning often.
Joseph does sessions of many types from medicine wheel ceremony, soul mate retrieval ceremony to letting go ceremonies. He also is licensed to marry people and has done several vow renewal ceremonies.
Feel free to contact him directly if you are interested in setting up a one on one...he's in Chicago until the end of next week. He will be back soon after touring two other cities!
If not this trip, I've no doubt he will be able to set you up for his next trip to Chicago!
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No, he hasn't really changed. Cosgrove is still calling himself a shaman, and still selling ceremony for big money in Sedona.
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Monica Zaffarano runs a production company "specializing in Commercial Advertising, Photography, and Film Production".
http://www.azaffaranoproduction.com/#a=0&at=0&mi=1&pt=0&pi=2&s=18&p=-1 (http://www.azaffaranoproduction.com/#a=0&at=0&mi=1&pt=0&pi=2&s=18&p=-1)
So she knows how to put a spin on things, including Joseph's supposed biography and activities.
Joseph's father Larry Cosgrove is The Singing Trapper, from North Bay, Ontario. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPvF-Kqopvg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPvF-Kqopvg) Monica on her youtube account titles him "Larry - The Singing Trapper - Running Wolf Cosgrove" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xqBfFR2LQA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xqBfFR2LQA) but she is the only person who uses that "Running Wolf Cosgrove". I think that is just marketing, but even if Larry now does use that stage or nick name, it doesn't tell us anything about the actual family ancestry.
I wonder where Joseph claims Algonquin from. He's claimed NDN ancestry through a paternal great grandmother, haven't found any evidence of that in records. Even if he has the ancestry he claims, he needs to stop with the ceremony selling.
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;D https://www.facebook.com/WalkInBalanceCenter............"lol"
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The White Wolf turned into a Grey Wolf!!!! :o These people anything for the almighty bux!!! ::)
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His latest ceremony selling was a few weeks ago, and he'll keep doing it in the coming months.
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Joseph White Wolf
Independent Public Relations and Communications Professional
Flagstaff, Arizona Area
Public Relations and Communications
Blessings dear friends...
I am a spiritual teacher/ inspirational speaker / story teller / dream whisperer /
Born Native American / Irish
My teaching come to me by was of living off the land and learning from my father being a fur trapper as well developing within me a great love for animals / plants and spirit molding me into my work that I share today...
I speak in group settings of spiritual retreats as well do one on one sessions in development and healing of ones self... My office is the land where together with clients we walk into the beauty of creation learning from all forms of creation surrounding us as well passing our path during our journey... My teaching are my own that have come to me through spirit being easy as well tender to apply during out time spent together... We all vision in learning many different ways that work for us within our own understandings and I am here to help you guide yourself into walking in the absolute perfection of your spirit...
Life is a beautiful gift that we get to unwrap each and every day...
Resting in that gift is love and once accepted it becomes our gift that we then are blessed to share with others...
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-white-wolf/1a/3a5/391 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-white-wolf/1a/3a5/391)
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Blessings dear friends...
I am a spiritual teacher/ inspirational speaker / story teller / dream whisperer /
Born Native American / Irish
My teaching come to me by was of living off the land and learning from my father being a fur trapper as well developing within me a great love for animals / plants and spirit molding me into my work that I share today...
I speak in group settings of spiritual retreats as well do one on one sessions in development and healing of ones self... My office is the land where together with clients we walk into the beauty of creation learning from all forms of creation surrounding us as well passing our path during our journey... My teaching are my own that have come to me through spirit being easy as well tender to apply during out time spent together... We all vision in learning many different ways that work for us within our own understandings and I am here to help you guide yourself into walking in the absolute perfection of your spirit...
Life is a beautiful gift that we get to unwrap each and every day...
Resting in that gift is love and once accepted it becomes our gift that we then are blessed to share with others...
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-white-wolf/1a/3a5/391 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-white-wolf/1a/3a5/391)
Yikes! Communications Professional? Someone get him a spell checker or teach him how to write a coherent sentence!!
And: fur trapper / great love for animals - there is somewhat of a disconnect there, IMHO. ??? ??? ???
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Cosgrove abandoned any pretense about caring about ethics. He has his own ceremony selling site. High priced, and even having the nerve to charge for pricey sessions by phone or while you are dreaming.
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He calls himself a shaman on his business card, but I don't think it's part of his name as some seem to indicate on the posts. I actually met him on a trip to Sedona unexpectedly. I was just there for a weekend and the concierge booked a tour with him. I didn't know who he was. For me the jury is still out because I don't know enough about him yet. It did come up he is Mohawk and from Canada when we were speaking to a lady we met after coming off the hiking trail. His accent did seem to be Canadian and he looked he could be of mixed heritage. I can say he didn't try to take advantage of me or get more money out of me. On FB he just publishes his thought for the day which are positive musings on various topics. So far he has not spammed me with ads or asked for anything unlike some other New Agers I could name.
I came across Eliza White Buffalo, and Irish lady who refers to him as a brother, when I was searching on Joseph to find out more about him as he claimed a friend in Sedona was treating cancer and had about a 85% success rate. I was rather curious to see if there was anything about this on the Internet. I came across a video on the "DNA" medicine wheel he took me to that belongs to the friend working on cancer clients, but the video is no longer on YouTube. I believe Joseph does retreats now so I don't think the websites up are currently accurate and it sounds as if he has his own place in Sedona with his son so he must be fairly successful business wise. As for Eliza White Buffalo she has put out some channeled books and claims to be a medium. I have never met her so I can't say if she is legit or not. She recently posted on FB her book(s) might be made into a movie. Still waiting to see if this happens or not as even if true there is a project in the works Hollywood is notorious for taking years to get things made or deals going bad.
I ran across a lady in one of the groups I participate in via the Internet who had heard of them and said some of the other Native Americans didn't agree with what they were doing. When I asked what that was she didn't answer so I am sure if they have a project/agenda tied to the Native Americans outside of Eliza White Buffalo's teachings in her books she said she channeled from Black Elk and others.
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Cosgrove is ceremony selling in Sedona in the next few months, and is charging much more.
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This was forwarded to me. Cosgrove's partner sent some pretty hostile threats to a critic of his. So much for the sooper spirchul front.
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Wow...you sure have a lot of hatred within you. Your words are a reflection of your feelings towards yourself, as well as your hatred towards yourself. I feel sorry for you. Your transparent rant is embarrassing to you. Do you not think that the police have been able to track your IP address and identify who and where you are? There is enough documentation of e-mails that you have sent people for a slander case. Joseph remembers you and does not want to do this. Are you intelligent enough to comprehend what you have documented and how it could hurt you?
We shall all continue to thrive here in Sedona and continue to wish you well. I do know that Joseph's business has been thriving more and more with your negative postings....so thank you! Yourself and one website has been such a blessing! The saying of any publicity is good publicity is certainly true in this case!
Thank you for all that you have done and Merry Christmas
Joanne
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This was forwarded to me. Cosgrove's partner sent some pretty hostile threats to a critic of his. So much for the sooper spirchul front.
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Wow...you sure have a lot of hatred within you. Your words are a reflection of your feelings towards yourself, as well as your hatred towards yourself. I feel sorry for you. Your transparent rant is embarrassing to you. Do you not think that the police have been able to track your IP address and identify who and where you are? There is enough documentation of e-mails that you have sent people for a slander case. Joseph remembers you and does not want to do this. Are you intelligent enough to comprehend what you have documented and how it could hurt you?
We shall all continue to thrive here in Sedona and continue to wish you well. I do know that Joseph's business has been thriving more and more with your negative postings....so thank you! Yourself and one website has been such a blessing! The saying of any publicity is good publicity is certainly true in this case!
Thank you for all that you have done and Merry Christmas
Joanne
(My Bolding)
Wow! That says it all, doesn't it? It is all about the money. We are such a "blessing" to them. :) :)
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I think we got another entry for the dictionary Nuage - Plain English...:
Nuage:
Business has been thriving more and more with your negative postings
Plain English:
F---, they're hitting me in the wallet. Seems pleasant life is over and done with... for the time being, until things die down a bit and I find new customers to fleece.
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Cosgrove doing more ceremony selling. What's also notable is that he's dropped his claim of selling Native ceremony or being Native, both in this ad and the bio on his website.
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Letting Go Intensive with Joseph White Wolf @ SpiritUS Reiki Center
spiritus reiki center
Begins: Tuesday, 2015-06-16 18:00
Ends: Tuesday, 2015-06-16 21:00
Event info:
SpiritUS Reiki Center is pleased to welcome a very special guest shaman from Sedona, Arizona - Joseph White Wolf!
Thoughts and beliefs that do not serve us often take hold deep within us. Childhood pain, unhealthy past relationships and family issues are just a few examples of memories that affect our lives now. Some people have just a sense that they are holding onto something but they do not know what it is. How would your life be if you were no longer running a negative thought or memory pattern? In this 3-hour letting go intensive, Joseph will work with the layers of consciousness and spirit to loosen the grip on what you need to let go of. Through spirit and ceremony, a release will occur and a new thought pattern will be implanted where the old one once was.
Joseph “White Wolf” Cosgrove was born in northern Canada spending most of his early years deep in the wilderness alongside his father who was a fur trapper. Rooted with a deep love, respect, and communion with the earth, Joseph brings his gift of visions and storytelling to assist people in healing both emotional and physical traumas. As a Spiritual Teacher and Minister he works with people from around the world, both locally and by traveling, to do land clearings, wedding services, customized tours and Spiritual Intensive Workshops.
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