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Maggie:
I found this on another site and thought this was something that needed to be passed along.

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I received a message from a woman who had sent me an email with no
response. She had the last portion of my email address entered
incorrectly, as nativehealth.com instead of nativehealth.org, so I
decided to do a search on nativehealth.com. Through google, I found
that there is a company called Native American Nutritionals that also
refers to themselves as Native Health. I browsed the site for a moment
to see if it was affiliated with any known tribal community or Urban
Indian Organization. On the last page of the site, entitled "The Native
Healer.com" I was appalled to see a link called "Becoming A Native
American Practitioner". I followed the link and was taken to another
site, for a group called Nemenhah - they state their official name as
The Nemenhah Band and Native American Traditional Organization (NAC).
The (NAC) implies, as is listed throughout their website, that they are
affiliated with the Native American Church.

At the bottom of their "Spiritual Adoption" page they offer to adopt
anyone with an open heart who is willing to pay them a $90 initiation
fee and a $5 monthly fee thereafter. When you click on the link to
start the adoption process, it states "If you wish to become a Native
American Medicine man or woman please click the payment option below."

THIS IS AN ABOMINATION TO THE SOVEREIGN NATIVE AMERICAN NATIONS AND
TRIBAL PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY!!

The Native American Nutritionals website sells products that are given
stereotypical tribal names and invites its visitors to join a pyramid
scheme by "Profit Sharing" through a referral program. This entire
organization, Nemenhah and Native American Nutritionals a.k.a. Native
Health, is founded on the principles of profiting from the
bastardization and tokening of Native American people and practices.

I am putting the word out to as many tribal communities as I can in an
attempt to bring attention to this horrible travesty and find a way to
prevent this kind of deplorable treatment of our tribal ways. OUR WAYS
ARE NOT FOR SALE!! They never have been and they never will be and
people cannot claim to understand our ways with one breath and then
offer to sell them with their next breath. Please help tribal
communities throughout the nation and the future generations of Native
Americans who need your voice - and put a stop to this kind of trickery
and deceit!!

Here are the links so you can see for yourselves:

_http://nativeamericannutritionals.com/thenativehealer.asp_
(http://nativeamericannutritionals.com/thenativehealer.asp)

_http://www.thenativehealer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id_
(http://www.thenativehealer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id)
=13&Itemid=33

_http://www.thenativehealer.com/index.php?option=com_acctexp&task=registe_
(http://www.thenativehealer.com/index.php?option=com_acctexp&task=registe)
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Respectfully,

==d'shane==

D'Shane Barnett
Special Projects Officer
Native American Health Center
(510) 747-3033

Maggie:
Here are a couple of more sites regarding Phillip Cloudpiler (Landis). I copied some of the language from them..


http://www.geocities.com/lifewaysschool/Instructors.html
 
"Weekend Seminar Instructors 
 
 Phillip R. (Cloudpiler) Landis, N.D.

    Phillip is the hereditary Medicine Chief of the Numi'Pu Tsu'Peli Chopunish healing lodge of the Nez Perce. He is trained in and teaches the Shahaptian Healing Way, also refered to as Medicine Shirt of the Seven Lodges Ceremony. He is certified Naturopath and is President of the Utah Naturopathic Medical Association. He will be leading the Sweatlodge Ceremonies on weekends beginning July 3."
 

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=96654
 
"I am preparing for the worst and I would advise ALL of you to do the same."

"I am NOT just talking about stocking up on toilet paper, water, batteries and food... If you are smart, you would have done that years ago."

"I am talking about doing something that will save your life IF worse comes to worse and this country suddenly finds itself in the grip of something WORSE than Katrina and Rita... what will YOU do to survive? Katrina taught us that we will be on our own for up to a week. Do YOU have enough to survive for a week? Do you have something to protect yourself from looters who may kill you to get your food and valuables? "

"I have also included the links to Defense. Defense is a natural antibiotic that the Native Americans have used for centuries. To the best of my knowledge, Defense is the first formula which includes it. It was formulated by Dr. Phillip Landis, who is the grandson of the Great Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce.

Dr. Landis is now known by his Native American name, Cloudpiler. If you want to know more about their organization, please click through to their forum. You will find our DocMercer and Jasmine as regular contributors. Doc Mercer is a trained chiropractor, and Jasmine has been trained in the Cherokee medicine way."
 

 





dabosijigwokush:
OK THEY ARE CALLING THEM SELVES A CHURCH BUT THEY ARE NOT LISTED ANY WHERE, AS A NON PROFIT

Oklevueha Native American Church of Sanpete
OKLEVUEHA IS SEMINOLE

Utah County prosecutors said that because Mooney wasn't a member of one of 550 federally recognized tribes, he didn't have a right to administer the drug. His 4-year-old church, the Oklevueha EarthWalks Native American Church, was seen as a guise for a drug-dealing enterprise.
Soon, that charge would bring him trouble. In 2000, Mooney was arrested on 12 felony counts for selling peyote from his home.
http://newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=253.msg1073#msg1073
OTHER POST ON SAME GUY


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20040701/ai_n11473468

REPORTED THIS OUTFIT TO THE FBI!

Maggie:
A few folks did a little checking around and did some archive checking...here is a posting from the Mormon Womens forum..

the mormom woman forums:

Quote:
In re: Dr. Wilcox’s statemnet above about cloupiler.com…be extremely careful!

Cloudpiler is a pseudonym for a Philip Landis, sentenced to 2 10-year prison terms in Montana for fraud. He has also been featured as a shaman, providing peyote to his “followers???…or he was until the Utah Supreme Court stepped in.

He latest “project??? is the Mentinah archives. After doing some independent research, my results are thus: he is bogus. He is in the same vein as Nehor.

So please be careful of anything having to do with “cloudpiler???.
 
His domain info was checked and found this guy Michael Vincent who is a recent college grad. Seems he set up the site for "Crap-piler". Heard he is lurking around myspace.com trying to recruit new followers for his "leader".


Registrant:
Michael Vincent
1474 W 1460 N
Provo, Utah 84604
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: THENATIVEHEALER.COM
Created on: 29-Nov-05
Expires on: 29-Nov-07
Last Updated on: 19-Aug-06

Administrative Contact:
Vincent, Michael http://img.domaintools.com/email.pg...f729f49d7d7ca56
1474 W 1460 N
Provo, Utah 84604
United States
(801) 367-5308

Technical Contact:
Vincent, Michael http://img.domaintools.com/email.pg...f729f49d7d7ca56
1474 W 1460 N
Provo, Utah 84604
United States
(801) 367-5308

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.WEST-DATACENTER.NET
NS2.WEST-DATACENTER.NET


Maggie:
A little quote from the Crap-piler ooops.... I mean Cloudpiler Native Healer site:

Quote:

....Phillip R. Landis (Hemene Ot To-oh-yelo Akekt), known by the Band by his nickname "Cloudpiler", is the grandson of Pawna Tawny.  It was a custom in the Dreamer Religion to "make family".  Pawna Tawny was presented to Chief Joseph (Heinmot Tooyel Akekt) just prior to his death and he accepted her and presented her as his own granddaughter in a manner customary to his religion.    Cloudpiler is also a Medicine Shirt of the Sacred Shahaptian Healing Way and the elected Principle Medicine Chief of the Nemenhah Band and Oklevueha Native American Church of Sanpete, and he is a recognized Roadman, Medicine Man and Spiritual Leader of the Oklevueha Native American Church of Utah, which received its blessing from Chief Fool Bull of the Rosebud Native American Church.

.....As a teacher of the Sacred Shahaptian Healing Way, Cloudpiler exercises his traditional and hereditary right to spiritually adopt into his Band anyone who wishes to learn the ancient Faith and Medicine of the Grandfathers.   This is according to the Seven Lodges / Seven Drums Ceremony of the Dreamer or "Long Hair" tradition of the Plateau Tribes of the Columbia River Basin.  In this tradition, any family that desired a son or daughter to become a Healer, exercised faith in the traditional beliefs by giving their child to the Medicine Chief by adoption.  The child's natural father offered to "make meat" for the child and the mother offered to provide clothing and other needs until the child reached adulthood.  Our Thank Offering derives from this ceremonial pattern.  If the child showed the appropriate aptitude, dedication, and willingness to make and keep sacred covenants, the Medicine Chief adopted the child into his Band and supervised the child's training.  This system utilized the medium of exchange of the time.  The present system utilizes the medium of exchange or our time and is appropriate.  Accordingly, Cloudpiler, as Elected Principle Medicine Chief of the Nemenhah Band, offers, in a way that is both according to ancient religious tradition and appropriate to our times and our culture, spiritual adoption to all those wishing to so dedicated themselves.
 

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