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General => Research Needed => Topic started by: Cetan on October 04, 2009, 09:46:16 pm
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Does anyone know anything about a man in the Indianapolis area calling himself Chief John Crow Dog? Claims to be an adopted brother of Leonard Crow Dog, a yuwipi man and a leader in the Native American Church.
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He's briefly mentioned here and in a thread on Indianz as someone disputing the McCullough unauthorized Sundance in Indiana.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1245.0
His myspace is here, but he looks awfully young to be a chief.
http://www.myspace.com/43356179
He filed a case against the city of Indianapolis for discrimination. It mentions his old name, John W Crazyhorse..
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http://www.narf.org/nill/bulletins/dct/unreported/crowdog.html
(Cite as: 2005 WL 643363 (S.D.Ind.))
United States District Court,
S.D. Indiana, Indianapolis Division.
Chief John CROW DOG, Plaintiff,
v.
THE CITY OF INDIANAPOLIS, Mona Salem, Maureen Stapleton, Vaneeta Kumar,
Defendants.
No. 1:03-CV-0849-SEB-VSS.
March 18, 2005.
D. Robert Webster, Bamberger & Feibleman, Indianapolis, IN, for Plaintiff.
Robin M. Lybolt and Allison Wells Gritton, Indianapolis, IN, for Defendants.
ENTRY GRANTING DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT and DENYING PLAINTIFF'S
MOTION TO STRIKE
BARKER, J.
*1 This matter comes before us on Defendant's Motion for Summary Judgment on Plaintiff's employment discrimination claims brought pursuant to Title VI and Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1965, 42. U.S.C. § 2000 et seq. The plaintiff, Chief John Crow Dog ("Chief Crow Dog"), alleges that his employer, the City of Indianapolis ("the City"), pays him less and has disciplined him unfairly on the impermissible basis of his national origin and religion. The Complaint also alleges the City discriminated against him when it cited him for zoning violations in 1994 and denied him improved working conditions. Plaintiff also asks us to strike a portion of the defendant's evidence in support of the summary judgment motion. For the reasons that follow, we GRANT Defendant's motion as to all claims and DENY Plaintiff's Motion to Strike.
I. Factual Background
The following facts are either uncontested or stated in a light most favorable to the plaintiff. All are supported by admissible evidence in the record.
Chief Crow Dog--formerly John W. Crazyhorse [FN1]--is a Native American by national origin as well as religion. He holds the positions of "Indian priest," "traditional Tribal Chief," "Yuwipi Medicine Man," and is a delegate to the Human Rights Commission of the United Nations. Compl. ¶ 14. The Chief is a long time employee in the economic housing division of the Department of Metropolitan Development ("DMD"), where he was hired in April 1991 as a rehabilitation specialist....
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A university's collection on AIM has material on him.
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http://rmoa.unm.edu/docviewer.php?docId=nmu1mss659bc.xml
Carol Sullivan's Wounded Knee papers contain typed and handwritten essays/personal narratives, interviews, press releases, correspondence, news-clippings, publications, ephemera, and audio recordings pertaining to her research on, and association with the American Indian Movement, the 1973 occupation of Wounded Knee, and Native American nationalist movements. Russell Means, Leonard Crow Dog, John Crow Dog, and Leonard Peltier are among the prominent American Indian Movement figures represented in this collection.
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The DLN Coalition site discusses his statement at the opening of their organization.
http://www.dlncoalition.org/dln_coalition/dln_coalition.htm
Following is a shortened, representational transcript of the meeting seminal to the formation of the Dakota-Lakota-Nakota Human Rights Advocacy Coalition. Addressed in it are a number of the issues which are central concerns of the DLN: ethnic cleansing, the violations of treaties, the conflict between the U.S. imposed government structure and traditional ways.
First DLN Meeting
August 3, 1999
Crow Dog's Paradise
Rosebud, S.D.
7:00 P.M.
A meeting was convened for the purpose of discussing treaty rights as well as human rights of all nations.
Chosen to chair the meeting was Alfred Bone Shirt, a community member from Rosebud who thanked Chief Leonard Crow Dog for allowing this meeting to be held here at the Sacred Sun Dance Grounds at Crow Dog's Paradise....
JOHN CROW DOG -- Talked about First Amendment rights and why they don't stand for all of us. We are all free according to the constitution but it does not pertain to our people. We need to forget that we are from separate tribes. We are one nation of this land and with united effort we can fight and win. Prayers are the same in heart. All men pray to the real spirit and we all feel the same thing in our heart. Prayer should be in everything. We need to stand together and say this is enough. There are lots of questions and no ready answers. We need to make it happen. We need to listen to the elders and stand together....
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This site has contact information on him as part of the NAC @ halfway down.
http://www.edison.cc.oh.us/Religion/Links.htm
He's also listed as an artist in an MLK Day presentation.
http://www.in.gov/icrc/files/2005finalprogram.pdf
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the court needs to know that this guy changes names like hats
his real name is John Wexler
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The name John Crazy Horse does show up in this book by Mary Grimes AKA Mary Thunder.
http://www.amazon.com/Thunders-Grace-Walking-Visions-Grandmother/dp/0882681664
If you use the search function to look inside the book, it says JCH prayed with Grimes frequently, visited her in the hospital frequently, helped out with her kids, gave her a ride to Texas, and that he brought her an eagle wing from Leonard Crow Dog. If so, that last one would be illegal for both Crow Dog's to do, since Grimes isn't NDN, only claims to be adopted in. Grimes sometimes refers to JCH as her son, though probably means it figuratively.
His photo shows up under that name in this myspace page, 2nd photo at top.
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=273267794&page=3
There must be a dozen people in online profiles calling themselves John Crazyhorse, but none appear to be JCD.
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He's briefly mentioned here and in a thread on Indianz as someone disputing the McCullough unauthorized Sundance in Indiana.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1245.0
His myspace is here, but he looks awfully young to be a chief.
http://www.myspace.com/43356179
He filed a case against the city of Indianapolis for discrimination. It mentions his old name, John W Crazyhorse..
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http://www.narf.org/nill/bulletins/dct/unreported/crowdog.html
(Cite as: 2005 WL 643363 (S.D.Ind.))
United States District Court,
S.D. Indiana, Indianapolis Division.
Chief John CROW DOG, Plaintiff,
v.
THE CITY OF INDIANAPOLIS, Mona Salem, Maureen Stapleton, Vaneeta Kumar,
Defendants.
No. 1:03-CV-0849-SEB-VSS.
March 18, 2005.
D. Robert Webster, Bamberger & Feibleman, Indianapolis, IN, for Plaintiff.
Robin M. Lybolt and Allison Wells Gritton, Indianapolis, IN, for Defendants.
ENTRY GRANTING DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT and DENYING PLAINTIFF'S
MOTION TO STRIKE
BARKER, J.
*1 This matter comes before us on Defendant's Motion for Summary Judgment on Plaintiff's employment discrimination claims brought pursuant to Title VI and Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1965, 42. U.S.C. § 2000 et seq. The plaintiff, Chief John Crow Dog ("Chief Crow Dog"), alleges that his employer, the City of Indianapolis ("the City"), pays him less and has disciplined him unfairly on the impermissible basis of his national origin and religion. The Complaint also alleges the City discriminated against him when it cited him for zoning violations in 1994 and denied him improved working conditions. Plaintiff also asks us to strike a portion of the defendant's evidence in support of the summary judgment motion. For the reasons that follow, we GRANT Defendant's motion as to all claims and DENY Plaintiff's Motion to Strike.
I. Factual Background
The following facts are either uncontested or stated in a light most favorable to the plaintiff. All are supported by admissible evidence in the record.
Chief Crow Dog--formerly John W. Crazyhorse [FN1]--is a Native American by national origin as well as religion. He holds the positions of "Indian priest," "traditional Tribal Chief," "Yuwipi Medicine Man," and is a delegate to the Human Rights Commission of the United Nations. Compl. ¶ 14. The Chief is a long time employee in the economic housing division of the Department of Metropolitan Development ("DMD"), where he was hired in April 1991 as a rehabilitation specialist....
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A university's collection on AIM has material on him.
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http://rmoa.unm.edu/docviewer.php?docId=nmu1mss659bc.xml
Carol Sullivan's Wounded Knee papers contain typed and handwritten essays/personal narratives, interviews, press releases, correspondence, news-clippings, publications, ephemera, and audio recordings pertaining to her research on, and association with the American Indian Movement, the 1973 occupation of Wounded Knee, and Native American nationalist movements. Russell Means, Leonard Crow Dog, John Crow Dog, and Leonard Peltier are among the prominent American Indian Movement figures represented in this collection.
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The DLN Coalition site discusses his statement at the opening of their organization.
http://www.dlncoalition.org/dln_coalition/dln_coalition.htm
Following is a shortened, representational transcript of the meeting seminal to the formation of the Dakota-Lakota-Nakota Human Rights Advocacy Coalition. Addressed in it are a number of the issues which are central concerns of the DLN: ethnic cleansing, the violations of treaties, the conflict between the U.S. imposed government structure and traditional ways.
First DLN Meeting
August 3, 1999
Crow Dog's Paradise
Rosebud, S.D.
7:00 P.M.
A meeting was convened for the purpose of discussing treaty rights as well as human rights of all nations.
Chosen to chair the meeting was Alfred Bone Shirt, a community member from Rosebud who thanked Chief Leonard Crow Dog for allowing this meeting to be held here at the Sacred Sun Dance Grounds at Crow Dog's Paradise....
JOHN CROW DOG -- Talked about First Amendment rights and why they don't stand for all of us. We are all free according to the constitution but it does not pertain to our people. We need to forget that we are from separate tribes. We are one nation of this land and with united effort we can fight and win. Prayers are the same in heart. All men pray to the real spirit and we all feel the same thing in our heart. Prayer should be in everything. We need to stand together and say this is enough. There are lots of questions and no ready answers. We need to make it happen. We need to listen to the elders and stand together....
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This site has contact information on him as part of the NAC @ halfway down.
http://www.edison.cc.oh.us/Religion/Links.htm
He's also listed as an artist in an MLK Day presentation.
http://www.in.gov/icrc/files/2005finalprogram.pdf
The Myspace page says he's 20. The Lawsuit says he was hired in 1991.
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The MySpace page is his son, whom "chief Crow Dog" also claims is a yuwipi man.
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I know the John Crowdog family for about a year now and at first everything was going good but now people are showing their true colors. I found out that John Wexler changed his name to CrazyHorse and the Oglala Sioux tribe went nuts and threaten to kill John unless he changed his name. Before you knew it he became John Crowdog. The sweats are starting to become a joke place for people to say what ever they want. They throw butts into the fire were the Grandfathers are. I want everbody to know just what they are about.
Mshiwes nin se
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I know about this guy too. He's a sleaze. The myspace is of his son (actually step son) John jr. He does conduct yuwipi ceremonies and is now doing peyote meetings. John rules his group with an iron hand and makes a nice easy profit from them I might add. Not only is his "son" a chief now his grandson is. John has been meeting with Mc Cullough. They both are paying Leonard to be their pawn for these titles and adoptions etc.
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I believe John is the son of Pedros Crow Dog who is said to have been adopted by Leanord Crow Dog, I also believ and have heard through the moccasin line that he goes around and says he is the real son of Crow Dog and that gives him the right to do all he does, he is hispanic. here are some links.
http://www.facebook.com/search/?init=srp&sfxp=&q =crow+dog#/truelynative1?ref=sgm
http://www.facebook.com/search/?init=srp &sfxp=&q=crow+dog#/profile.php?ref=sgm&id=1277933327< /HTML>
This is John but look what is written under his Picture
http://www.facebook.com/search/?init=srp&sfxp=&o=69&q= John+Crow+Dog#/profile.php?id=1426615707&ref=search&sid=1331314725.4 245622662..1
I have friends who know Padro and he is a very arrogant person and feels he has the rights to do any ceremonies of the Lakota since he is adopted, however we know that is not true, he is not od NDN decent at all.
Sorry the links do not work but type in search on facebook for John Crow dog and under his pics will be Pedro Crow dog. I guess I need to learn how to insert links. Sorry.
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The John Crow Dog on facebook is the son oe stepson of the John Crow Dog who used to call himself John Crazy Horse. I dont know if the younger one is actually the son of Pedro but Pedro Crow Dog's mother is from Rosebud, Mary (I think her last name was Brave Bird) who gave birth to Pedro at WK2 and married Leonard.
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http://en.wik ipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Brave_Bird#Background
Thanks for correcting my info. Will need to check with some of my Native family about John, even though I am Cherokee/Choctaw I do have many Lakota friends and family. :)
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I believe John is the son of Pedros Crow Dog who is said to have been adopted by Leanord Crow Dog, I also believ and have heard through the moccasin line that he goes around and says he is the real son of Crow Dog and that gives him the right to do all he does, he is hispanic. here are some links.
http://www.facebook.com/search/?init=srp&sfxp=&q =crow+dog#/truelynative1?ref=sgm
http://www.facebook.com/search/?init=srp &sfxp=&q=crow+dog#/profile.php?ref=sgm&id=1277933327< /HTML>
This is John but look what is written under his Picture
http://www.facebook.com/search/?init=srp&sfxp=&o=69&q= John+Crow+Dog#/profile.php?id=1426615707&ref=search&sid=1331314725.4 245622662..1
I have friends who know Padro and he is a very arrogant person and feels he has the rights to do any ceremonies of the Lakota since he is adopted, however we know that is not true, he is not od NDN decent at all.
Sorry the links do not work but type in search on facebook for John Crow dog and under his pics will be Pedro Crow dog. I guess I need to learn how to insert links. Sorry.
lol..this is too funny!! seriously? Pedro was born at Wounded Knee in '73. His mother is Mary Brave Bird a LAKOTA! he IS NOT HISPANIC. He is Native! this shows how ignorant people are and how people talk of what they do not know! Know your facts before you go bashing people online for all others to see. Ill pray for you!
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lol..this is too funny!! seriously? Pedro was born at Wounded Knee in '73. His mother is Mary Brave Bird a LAKOTA! he IS NOT HISPANIC. He is Native! this shows how ignorant people are and how people talk of what they do not know! Know your facts before you go bashing people online for all others to see. Ill pray for you!
Hello. Hopefully you will introduce yourself rather than just coming in here, sneering, and leaving. That wouldn't help you if you want people to believe you. How do you know all of this? And do you have anything to say on the subject, JCD, rather than Pedro?
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Folks, Just received a message on this board from capunka asking about John Crow Dog. I asked for his name and to email me directly.
I live just down the street from him. As for my bonafides, some of you know me, but I am an enrolled member of the Citizen Potawatomi and live in Indianapolis. I teach at Indiana University and work also as the Director of American Indian Programs for the Indianapolis campus.
Some years ago when I moved into Indianapolis I happened on John Crow Dog and met with him at his house. According to what I was able to gather, he started dancing at Crow Dog's place in the mid 1980's. He is in his late fifties or early sixties and has a son and daughter. The son may be 17-18 now, and claims to be a mnijonjou chief as does the older John Crow Dog. He has several bonnets in his house and so on. He is not an enrolled member of any tribe although he has been able to snow the city of Indianapolis that he is. He is incorporated as a "priest" of his own church.
Several years ago, I happened by his house and saw they were getting ready to sweat, so I stayed. I have only been there once and it was that night. Participants had to sign a medical release and were encouraged to donate a minimum of 20 dollars for expenses. The night I was there about thirty people attended, some appeared to be regulars, and about half of the thirty were Indians or looked Indian for whatever that statement is worth. Some I knew, others I have since run into.
I am going to post this and add some more, the comuter is telling me tha I am running out of room.
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time to upgrade from that old Comadore 64
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Sorry, to add. That one night I witnessed what I would say is a lot of white folks and some Indians sweating with John Crow Dog who claims to be a blood son of Mary and Henry Crow Dog. But he is not. No one is too much the wiser here in a state named for Indians. There was a procession with the pipe by three white men and more "sacred" blather than I care to mention. Like Boy Scouts, but that is my opinion. While I was in Wounded in Knee in 1973, I would not know Pedro if I passed him on the street. I can only say what I saw that night and heard subsequently. Around here a lot of white folks and Indians also call John Wexler "Chief John Crow Dog" or just Chief Crow Dog. I have only been to his house once and in his sweat once and do not care to go back. That night he invited me to a yuwipi but I had seen enough to form an opinion. He keeps a pretty low profile but has enough support from the Crow Dogs and other Rosebud families that no one will be able to root him out. I heard that he and another guy Steve McCullough had a falling out but I have seen them together since and if they are at odds they are hiding it. Another Lakota here, Evan White Face, also is said to run sweats and support Wexler but I have not seen it with my own eyes.
In my opinion, as long as this guy has the support of the Lakota families he runs with, as long as Indians attend his "ceremonies" you are simply blowing smoke at him with little or no effect. And these posts are exactly what I would pass on to anyone who asks me about it privately. I am not Lakota. If he claimed to be Potawatomi, I would raise hell to the highest officials, but he does not claim it. Thanks to the goddess, Potawatomi is too hard to pronounce and spell.
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Thank you Johnnie for posting and pretty much confirming what I knew. He used to call himself John Crazy Horse but that didnt go over too well with some of the members of the OST who threatened to sue him or more if he didnt stop using the name Crazy Horse so suddenly he became John Crow Dog. Leonard has been known to make plenty of Nons "chief" for the right donation. When he was calling himself John Crazy Horse his nickname among some was "John Silly Pony"
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John and Mc Cullough are supporting each other these days. While they each maintain their own groups of followers and keep their own money separate from each others groups, they do try to get in and be a part of things to show a united front. That and the added fact they can both try to get the indiana following of the native community. So the following quote is way off base. Since neither is lakota they want very much to win as many over as they can.
Another Lakota here, Evan White Face, also is said to run sweats and support Wexler but I have not seen it with my own eyes.
Little John is not Pedro's son. Pedro is mixed. His mom is sicangu and mexican. His dad is unknown but Leonard claimed him as his.
I did not know if it is appropriate to post pics of John and his nuttiness but I have some photos that show him in a priests garb. His young grandson in his chiefs bonnet out in front of the public eye. things like that.
John Wexler is a fake and a fraud. His ceremonies are phoney. He does make money off of others in the name of using the Lakota traditions. Myself I blame Leonard Crowdog for allowing him to do so and giving his support for $$$$$.
I'll end it here. Pardon me if I overstepped any site rules or have spoken too much. I am against this white man and what he represents to the native community. You watch, this is not the end of John's story. If he is not stopped there will be big problems in the future out of this one.
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Walks Proud,
Not sure what you mean by the statement that my quote about Evan is off base. I have seen with my own eyes his support of both Wexler and McCullough. I heard White Face recently had a falling out with McCullough and started his own sundance. McCullough is not federally recognized and claims Remnant Band Shawnee which is also fake, run by Hawk Pope over in Ohio. A few years ago a bunch of raised hell with the local PBS station for running a documentary on the Wabash River which featured McCullough. When the northern leg of the Longest Walk came through her a couple of years ago, Wexler, McCullough and White Face were featured in publicity photos all standing together holding hands and wearing bonnets. Wexler and McCullough have gotten real careful about wearing their eagle feather bonnets since I let it out that if I saw them I would turn them into Fish and Game. If they cannot produce the documentation of enrollment, they should be busted big time.
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What I meant by being off base is you had your facts wrong. Now I will change it to being an outright lie. Evans NOT "Evan" never "held hands" in public with Mc Cullough and Wexler when the walkers came through. I was there and know this for a fact. Evans is not in support of either of them. For you to say so is a joke. Not causing a conflict. Not creating a public scene is not supporting someone. If you have these publicity photos post em! I would love to see them. I in turn could post where the local news interviewed who? Wexler and little John NOT Evans.
I know Jerry Pope from way back and yes, he is a fraud. but this is not about him.
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Walks proud, I was there that day at the Eiteljorg. Did you or did you not see him (Evan) standing in a line with those two all wearing eagle feather bonnets? I had a student videotape the whole thing. Calling me a liar from your anonymous perch is a pretty bold thing. If you live here in Indianpolis I would be happy to show you the videotape. I know what I saw that day with my own eyes and have the videotape to prove it.
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Since we are continuing this conversation in private e mails I would appreciate your deleting your last post about charging for sweats. Not unless you are going to put the peoples names saying these things in this conversation. thank you.
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Sorry, if Evans has changed, you can have him contact me and we can work out the details I sent you by email. Otherwise it stands. Two things about all this, you know who I am, but I have no idea who you are. An anonymous poster demanding a retraction of something I know to be true without evidence it is not, is a request from a ghost. You have my email address, you can look me up through the university. Or better yet, have evans contact me.
A demand from no one is no demand at all.
Johnnie
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Folks, I edited a post above about Evan White Face. Here is the deal. I was asked to do so by someone who claims to know him and it is not so important an issue as to cause concern. One thing I do know, John Crow Dog aka John Wexler, and Steve McCullough, would not be doing their business were it not for the support of native people. I know a lot of people who attend their "ceremonies" and it irks me to no end.
For two reasons.
Both have never approached the local tribes, Potawatomi and Miami, about this business. I am nearly sixty years old, have been going to Indian doings all my life and yet still ask permission to do things of my family in Oklahoma and the Miami and Potawatomi of Indiana. I do that because that is how I was taught.
Second, what they are selling is just wrong and is based on the belief that by attending something a few times, they suddenly become an expert.
As a scholar of religions, I am fascinated by how native traditions have percolated into the non-Indian community. And that is my last comment on this.
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leonard has twenty biological children and many adopted (hunka).
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yuipi and the native american church are two different things. There are people who do both but not together.
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to verify this you can call the rosebud sioux tribe in south dakota. This is where leonard is enrolled and some of his children. You would have to contact somone in the native american church in allen, south dakota. If i remember correctly, this is where a charter was filed with the state of south dakota, for the native american church.
As far as adoption, hunka, it does not matter what color you are on the outside to be adopted lakota/dakota/nakota way. But, the person adopting had to take the responsibility of teaching protocals to the adoptee.
Always, check your sources.
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Not sure what you were meaning posting all that johanna. Mind explaining?
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From what I have heard about this John Crow Dog dude, he requires the people around him to call him "Chief"! And he has a handful of white women who are at his beckon call. Everything I have heard about this dude leads me to believe his is a total fraud. Peace out.