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Offline Odelle

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Re: Dennis Hawk
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2013, 05:54:58 am »
He also leads Kirtans, Hindu ceremony, and sells CDs with songs about Shiva:

This from an announcement for an April 20th event in Minneapolis this year: http://www.meetup.com/Kirtan-Gatherings/events/109223112/
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April 20 · 7:30 PM
Nokomis Yoga
We look forward to returning to this beautiful studio for our regular third-Saturday kirtan. We can't wait to sing with you all!

This time we will have a special guest for kirtan: Dennis Hawk from Wisconsin. His bio is below. He will bring some of his flutes and CDs for sale.

Blankets and chairs will be provided, as well as song sheets. A love donation is much appreciated, we suggest a similar amount that you would pay for a yoga asana class, about $10 - 15.

Dennis Hawk bio:
Dennis is a recording artist, Native American flute-maker, Yoga workshop leader, Yoga instructor, and Kirtan leader. With a degree in theology, Dennis' primary interest has always been spirituality. Combining his life-long interest in music and love of yoga, Dennis has created his own Yoga Jam (live, improvisational music for yoga). Most recently, Dennis has created recorded music for yoga practices in his collaborations with John Gibson and Mark Plopper. The first in this series, Saraswati, was released in the fall of 2012.Currently Dennis is making flutes, creating live music for yoga practices, leading Kirtan and yoga workshops, working on creating recorded music for yoga practices, completing his first Kirtan CD and writing a companion book to go with the CD which includes 108 meditations on the names of Shiva.
More info at www.dennishawk.com
Or listen to his music at
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Offline WINative

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Re: Dennis Hawk
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2013, 10:31:43 pm »
Yes he's a very dangerous guy and I'm still waiting for the moderators here to move him into the Frauds section. He is also now working with known fraud Tim Dancing Red Hawk McIntosh, in the suburbs of Milwaukee and neighboring counties.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/dennis.hawk1?fref=ts

Offline Odelle

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Re: Dennis Hawk
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2013, 10:59:27 pm »
He sounds pretty dangerous, actually. But also ridiculous. This is my favorite status on his FB page so far. It's from June 12th:

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My Affirmation: I am fast becoming a technological genius. — feeling wonderful.
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Offline WINative

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Re: Dennis Hawk
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2013, 03:58:44 pm »
The Nanaboozho Legends of the Ojibwe: What These Stories Tell us about Nature and Spirituality Today

Tuesday, September 10 from 7:00 – 8:30pm

Dennis Hawk will explore some of the ancient Ojibwe Stories showing their application in today’s world of science and nature. Drawing on great Ojibwe story-tellers such as Bazil Johnson and Edward Benton Banai, Dennis will take us from these ancient stories to their present day relevance. The world view of the ancients may have been narrow in comparison to ours today, but their knack for finding “truth” in nature was not. This workshop will aid you in your quest for understanding the spiritual through a relationship with the physical world that surrounds us. Registration is required for this program, please call: 414.352.2880 x0
FEE: Member: Adults $10 (per program)
Non-member: Adults $12 (per program)
LEVEL: Adult

Schlitz Audubon Nature Center
1111 E Brown Deer Rd, Milwaukee, WI 53217
Phone:(414) 352-2880


Offline WINative

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Re: Dennis Hawk
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2017, 03:21:33 pm »
Interesting blog in that Dennis Hawk tries to defend what was written about him in this forum and he finally identifies his teachers as: Cleveland CJ Doxtater, Oneida, WI, who was taught by Basil Braveheart, Lakota from Pine Ridge.
From what I seen they both seem.questionable as to what they know and who they will teach

http://dennishawkjourney.blogspot.com/2015_12_01_archive.html

Piff

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Re: Dennis Hawk
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2017, 11:06:47 pm »
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My mother was born Ellen Lee Marie Willis. 
Her mother was a Guthrie from Scotts-Irish Cherokee descent. 

This info helps a lot, his claim is through his mother. So far according to the records I see, she and her people are listed as white.

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There was a fairly large group of Scotts-Irish Cherokee who made their way from the Oklahoma Reservation prior to and during the Civil War. 
Some of the Southern Cherokee owned slaves and the tribe sided with the South during the  Civil War. 
In protest (and fear for their lives) my Scotts-Irish Cherokee ancestors made their way to St. Joseph, MO. 

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There's actually a street on the south-side of St. Joseph, MO called Cherokee Street.


There are streets, town, counties, etc. named Cherokee. That does not mean everyone present are actually Cherokee.

 
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The Guthrie name is still prominent on the rolls of the Southern Cherokee.


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As far as blood quantum goes who knows? 
The Scotts-Irish had been intermarrying with the Cherokee since the 1600's


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The Cherokee didn't make much of blood quantum however.


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John Ross, the principle chief and hero during the Trail of Tears when the Cherokee were force-marched from their homes in North Carolina and Georgia was only 1/8 Cherokee.  He would not have qualified for an "Indian Card" today.

Cherokee Nation membership requirements: http://www.cherokee.org/Services/TribalCitizenship/Citizenship.aspx

John Ross http://www.cherokee.org/AboutTheNation/History/Chiefs/JohnRoss.aspx

John Ross served his people as Principal Chief. Dennis Hawk, on the other hand, looks to be just serving himself.

Dennis Hawk quotes from http://dennishawkjourney.blogspot.com/2015_12_01_archive.html

Dennis' full name is Dennis Gilbert Hawk. His parents are Gilbert W Hawk http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=153460896 and Ellen Lee (Willis) Hawk http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=153460964

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Re: Dennis Hawk
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2017, 12:53:26 am »
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In protest (and fear for their lives) my Scotts-Irish Cherokee ancestors made their way to St. Joseph, MO.

His mother's people did move to St. Joseph, Missouri. They and their ancestors are always listed white in records. Many people are researching these lines, I see family trees and info on Ancestry, Family Search, and Find a Grave. Actual records are plentiful too. No one other than Dennis Gilbert Hawk is claiming Cherokee.

His maternal grandmother and her parents:

Name    Clara V Guthrie
Event Type    Census
Event Date    1910
Event Place    St Joseph Ward 1, Buchanan, Missouri, United States
Gender    Female
Age    8
Marital Status    Single
Race    White
Race (Original)    White
Relationship to Head of Household    Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated)    1902
Birthplace    Missouri
Father's Birthplace    Arkansas
Mother's Birthplace    Iowa

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2TC-2DG

Check link for her parents.

Clara's parents and family line on back can be followed starting here, with her father William Guthery / Guthrie http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=136146710 That goes back four more generations.

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Re: Dennis Hawk
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2017, 09:22:54 pm »
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    As far as blood quantum goes who knows?
    The Scotts-Irish had been intermarrying with the Cherokee since the 1600's

Right. And all the kids who stayed with the white side of the family and assimilated, their generations upon generations of descendants are all white now. They've grown up white, raised by white parents and grandparents, with full white privilege and totally white culture. Then as adults these folks do their family trees and find a distant ancestor, and they become pretendians. No Native community claims them.

Their comparisons to tribes with no or low-BQ requirements are specious, as those communities, when they are real tribes and not fake ones, are based in culture and kinship. It's a false equivalency. These people with maybe a distant ancestor who assimilated are not culturally Native, and Native people know it. They'll only fool racist and/or ignorant nons with that stuff. Then again, non-Natives are their community and their marketplace. They do this assuming no NDNs will ever find out about it. They do this assuming that if the white people in their community/marketplace find out real NDNs disapprove, they'll be too racist to care. They prefer pretendians. Because pretendians sell them the romantic fantasies they crave.

Offline WINative

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Re: Dennis Hawk
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2017, 06:04:51 pm »
Even though members of the WI Native community confronted Dennis Hawk about his appropriation and he promised to end it, it looks like he can't stop using Native symbolism and images in his music, I guess anything to make a buck?

https://www.facebook.com/DennisHawkYogaAndMusic/

Dennis Hawk Yoga Music
February 16, 2016 · Neenah ·
Did you know? Several years ago I produced an album of Native American chants, Lakota and Ojibwe. I did it for our lodge, but it has become my most popular cd. If you hold sweat lodges and want your group to sing well, have them obtain the album and all of you sing with your hearts. I loved the singing in our lodge that came from giving everyone the music. www.dennishawkyogamusic.com

Offline WINative

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Re: Dennis Hawk
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2017, 11:31:07 pm »
Interesting, how he writes about himself semi-honest, but can't be honest about appropriating other cultures, as he has personas and professions.


"This is where I am going:  I have had wonderful spiritual journeys in my lifetime.  I started the journey as a Lutheran, --even becoming a minister for them.  (My degree from Concordia Seminary in St. Louis says that I have a Masters of Divinity).  I think that is the strangest degree on the face of Mother Earth.  "OK, now I've mastered God, what's next?"  I spent 20 years as a community organizer and inner-city minister in Milwaukee.  I did that until my addictions caught up with me--and I zipped up north to Neenah, Wisconsin.  The geographical cure didn't take so then it was off to treatment (several).  To quote a politician that I didn't particularly care for (Ronald Reagan),"If you open a door and all you see is horse shit, start digging 'cause there's a pony in there somewhere."  So, I became an addictions counselor and switched spiritual paths.  That's when I met and sat at the feet of some great people (elders and teachers) whom I admire and hold dear to my heart.  This part of my journey is the focus of this blog.  (I'm now a yoga musician and you can find all about that on my website listed above.)"

http://dennishawkjourney.blogspot.com/2015/