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Bobby Lake-Thom
snorks:
Gee, um I didn't know that about the Smithsonian - I am more of a zoologist. How is Lake-Thom the terror of the wannabes? Or did I read that wrong.
educatedindian:
I think he meant Bobby and DR are wannabes.
I went looking for DR Thom. She IDs as Shawnee. No idea how she could be related to the Thoms, who are Karuk, unless it's by a married relative somehow.
I didn't see anything obviously exploitative in her work, just a few strange things like claiming Shawnee women warriors fought naked to mess with the heads of their enemies. But maybe I'm missing something.
WN, what's she done? Is the history she's pushing false?
frederica:
Talked with a friend of mine that is Loyal Shawnee. Stated it could have happen, but wasn't a practice. Sometimes the women did accompany their husbands but it was their role to fight. But they would if they had to. She said it sounds more like post-invasion ideas where the Europeans had to deal with 'scanty-clad NDN women. This DR Thom is from the "Ohio Shawnee". The Loyals were Tecumseh's. She didn't know if it differed or not. frederica
RoseBlossom:
I saw this at my library, looked suspicious:
Robert Lake-Thom--
Spirits of the Earth: A Guide to Native American Nature Symbols, Stories, and Ceremonies
http://www.amazon.com/Spirits-Earth-American-Symbols-Ceremonies/dp/0452276500
--- Quote ---From Library Journal
Native Americans believe that animal spirits can ultimately influence everyday lives. Lake-Thom, a healer and a descendant of three Native American tribes, combines his own experience, work with tribal elders, and readings from folk tales to explain the significance of good- and bad-luck symbols to these tribes. For instance, the hummingbird is considered to be a good-luck messenger that can carry a person's prayers to the Creator; in contrast, the owl is considered a sign of bad luck and a messenger of death. In a clear and straightforward writing style, the author defines symbols such as the turtle, bear, and coyote for Karuk, Seneca, and Cherokee tribes. He also includes several chapters on how one can get in touch with animal spirits through active participation in ceremonies and establishing sacred places. There is a helpful index and accompanying sketches. Recommended for public libraries.?Vicki Leslie Toy Smith, Univ. of Nevada, Reno
Copyright 1997 Reed Business Information, Inc.
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You can read the first page:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0452276500/ref=sib_fs_bod/104-3035076-7714324?ie=UTF8&p=S00K&checkSum=Rg7YMkRJLoh5OU39oeaDQs6BRaPAyijOUjiEP8WXFiU%3D#reader-link
And if you use the "Suprise me!" you can see more pages throughout (have to sign in)
It seemed very New Age and generic.
Also:
--- Quote ---Robert Lake-Thom
Bobby Lake-Thom, known as Medicine Grizzly Bear, is a traditional Native healer and spiritual teacher of Karuk and Seneca descent (affiliated with the Quartz Valley Indian Reservation in California). He has been schooled in both Western and Native american traditions and has taught and lectured extensively aross the United States for more than three decades. He is the author of two previous books on Native American culture and spirituality, Native Healer and Chilula: People from the Ancient Redwoods, and his articles have appeared in The Indian Historian, The Journal for Ethnic Studies, Quest magazine, Shaman's Drum, and other publications. He lives near Mt. Shasta in Yreka, California.
http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Author/AuthorPage/0,,1000018487,00.html
--- End quote ---
Also see: Medicine Grizzlybear Lake
(I searched is Robert Lake-Thom on the forum and didn't find any threads, I didn't think to search the above name as I just found it, so if there's another thead please forgive me!)
http://www.nativehealer.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine_Grizzlybear_Lake
I have my ideas, but I rather leave it up to the experts!
RoseBlossom:
Well, looking a few pages back I found a thread about him, but not using a name I'd expected.
Bobby Lake-Thom
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=818.0
There was nothing for Robert Lake-Thom or (I just searched) Medicine Grizzlybear Lake. So he goes by another name: Bobby!
Sheesh.
Sorry about double posting the same person.
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