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TimberlineWarrior:
I mentioned previously an event that takes place near Glastonbury, The Healing Weekend. When this was run by Bill Harrison before his death it was faithful and he was very particular about who took part and displayed etc.
Last year was run as a memorial to him and the new organisers were beginning to show signs that the folding stuff was important.
Adverts have now started to appear for the 2010 event and their web-site is starting to take shape,
http://www.thehealingweekend.co.uk/
On that web site all looks ok and above board. But looking at a few other sites/promotional spots things start to turn,
http://cambridgeshire.thespiritguides.co.uk/EventsComments.aspx?e=4665&p=47&Redirect=Psychic_Events.aspx
Look down and the report by the organisers mentions they will be running 'performances, workshops, sweat lodge, displays and shows running throughout the 3 days'.
As the location is close to Glastonbury which is a haunt of many frauds etc the sweats could be run by several possible candidates. But I am aware that Kate Fenn is high among the suspects as she has previous connections to the event.
I'll keep watching and try to find out more.

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Ahriman:
Hi There,

I am German and live in the UK. I have realised quite a few people put up sweat lodges against money here (same in Germany these days). Moreovere, here in the UK less and less people claim a "tracable" Native American tradition. The trend seems to be rather to cloak the whole thing in Celtic/Germanic mythology, or sometimes in very cloudy Native terms, such as e.g. "the maya calendar".

I personally think these people are wrong in charging money, but also and more importantly, I feel they are missing the point.

However, I have the impression the "spiritual workshop" crowd (I think they dislike the term New Age here) are exactly after what is offered on these workshops. That is, a lot of colorful images, a lot of stress on the possibility and power of personal transformation, a little bit of low threshold group therapy exercises, very little investment or commitment other than the workshop fee, and quite a bit of gratification of one's own narcicism.

Telling them off will have little effect, especially if no reference is made to Native American traditions. I guess this is freedom of religion. Or of group therapy, if you want.

TimberlineWarrior:
There has been in the past a claim made by the druids that the sweat lodge was theirs. They hoped this would get around them doing it and charging people. Then one of the serior druids stated publically and on the web that the druids didn't have sweat lodges and shouldn't claim they did. Things died down and there is less and less claims by them they ever did perform sweat lodges.
The nu-age or whatever name you wish to call them still perform and sell sweats and charge people. This money is for them and to enhance their life. Pure money making! As has been stated here one person makes so much money they take holidays in Egypt, Spain and also the Canary Islands.
Where somebody is making no connection to Native American heritage it's hard to expose them. But most claim they were taught by a Maya, A Mexican, or another American. Some do claim to have been taught by a genuine Native American and some blatantly advertise Native American Sweat Lodge. Those are the ones that need exposing.

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TimberlineWarrior:
Checking on some of the known ones I found a new one;
http://martinsellcentre.com/sweatlodge-events/

No ifs, no buts, such a blantant rip off and fraud they don't bother to hide the fact and even use a NA pic of a sweat lodge.

Then when you read up on the sweat leader;
http://martinsellcentre.com/sweatlodge-events/eva-mack/

There is such a list of familiar names of known frauds it's almost a who's who. Sun Bear, Bear Tribe Medicine Society and Sundoor International School for Transpersonal Education – The Firewalking School

TimberlineWarrior:
Having been out of touch with one source of information I was glad to hear from him again.
There has been some disturbance and trouble, but more of that when there is more news.
Meanwhile he and I have spotted an old name resurface and on the surface this would gain her a Non-fraud status.
http://www.green-school.co.uk/index.html
A shool to teach parents and adults outdoor skills, including bushcraft and tracking. Nothing wrong with that and the more people get out in the wilds the healthier it is.
However it's interesting to read the biographies of the instructors.
http://www.green-school.co.uk/about.html
Especially Kate Fenn
http://www.green-school.co.uk/kate_fenn.html
Kate has for many years been teaching through the use of Meditation, Sweat Lodge ceremonies, Vision Quest Healing, and the Medicine Wheel. Her work is linked to and overseen by Rod Bearcloud well known for his Traditional ways and lodges on the reservations and wonderful visionary Artwork.
What connection teaching tracking has to the sweat lodge and vison quest is beyond me. But it is clear she is still touting this line and now highlighting and making clear her connection to Rod Berry, as he being her teacher. This is especially informative as it wasn't very long ago he was speaking out in Sedona as being against non NDN performing sweats.
Perhaps the moderators might consider giving these two a seperate Fraud section as they cross both sides of the Atlantic.

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