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Shaman conference/Alan Shoemaker/Soga de Alma

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shoemaker:
[Seven childish insults in a row removed.]
You should be sued. But I"ll let it go.
The Shamanism Conferences have invited Presenters from around the World, specialists in their fields. The Shamans that are invited are some of the finest in the Upper Amazon and Andes.
www.soga-del-alma.org

check it out. it's for next July.

all the good things,
alan shoemaker

educatedindian:
Nice to see Mr. Shoemaker's pseudo spiritual front removed, exposing a childish, petty, and vindictive man caring less about truth or enlightenment than with making a profit.

I issue this challenge to you Mr. Shoemaker. Name even one inaccuracy in anything I've said.

You could not successfully sue for the simple reason a judge would throw the claim out. Truth is an absolute defense against libel. What I have said is the truth. You have a collection of flakes and some obvious frauds at your ceremony selling for spiritual tourists. It does not represent indigenous people, and neither do you.

Obviously you fear us harming your profit margin. (And yes, seemingly you do make quite a bit off your spiritual tourist business, or you wouldn't have the means to threaten a suit.)

shoemaker:
[Yet another childish insult]

You don't know me.

You're wrong about most everything you wrote.

You should find something to keep busy with.

Good luck.

educatedindian:
Very mature and super spirchul ::)

I'm kept pretty busy, what with being a professor teaching six classes and upwards of 150 students a semester, writing history, being happily married...and the research I do debunking down exploiters like yourself. It takes quite a lot more work than hustling tourists that confuse getting high with being enlightened.

Oh yes, flakes who claim to be faeries, lick toads, or even claim to be Chavin when the Chavin were gone 2000 years ago, they hold the moral high ground. ;D

labbit:
I know this is an old topic, but it's sad to see such bias on both sides rather than an attempt toward mutual understanding.

Educatedindian, you seem overly anxious to dismiss and condemn. For example, Adela has not worked as a healer for only 11 years—she started her training as a healer at age 11. And regarding Wendy Luckey, you are plain wrong in your summation and dismissal of her and frankly shouldn't judge based on Shoemaker's description rather than actually knowing this person.

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