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WOLF'S HEART LODGE DAUGHTERS/SONS OF THE EARTH
Tsisqua:
This site was recently pointed out to me:
http://www.orgsites.com/fl/drumming/
So I looked it over....and after some shock and amazement I sent a message to these people just to ask if 'any' of them were actually enrolled in any particular tribe...as with all due respect....these people look whiter than white, and as dodgey as they come... and I would like to presume there are at least some real ndn's teaching the ways of our people....here's my reply:
From: IMZADIMPR@aol.com
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:57:45 EST
Subject: Re: COMMENT-QUESTION from your OrgSite [http://www.orgsites.com/fl/drumming]
To: NativeAmericanUnity_Office@yahoo.com
We are mostly mixed... red/white or red/black. A few of us are full or at least registered. We are a local Tampa Bay group that has been meeting for about 15 years. Our Elders are trained to teach and we are just walking our Paths in as much as an honest, community way that we can.
One two-legged to another.
Anisoquili
Any opinions here? I know what mine is...and it's pretty much not fit to be posted here in all honesty after going through the site/photographs etc....but Im interested to see if anyone has had any dealings with this group or know anything more.
With respect,
Tsissy
frederica:
Flordia ranks up there with Tennessee for groups. I always find it interesting to see a Cherokee/Choctaw Elder giving past-life reading on the telephone. All done on a sliding scale, according to income. $30 for 30 minutes. They hit all the Nations, even have the Zia on the post. The Zia Pueblo make New Mexico take it off their license plates as it is a religious symbol. But they probably don't know that. Looks more like a social group than a Tribe.
Chaska:
This group has good intentions, but never knew any of them to be registered or enrolled in any Tribe. They have what is called "Drumming Circles"...everyone pounding away on drums in a frenzy (men and women), its comical to watch. Their site is peppered with NDN sayings and NDN sounding wording and many refer to "Cherokee" descendancy.....but none know their language or their ways and IF there is anything they might know of it, then they interpret it as THEY want it to be.......there are bonafide NDN's in Tampa who view these characters as being ridiculous in their antics to play NDN.....There is even a FM Radio station (88.5) that is supposed to have a NDN program, but the ones involved in it are not Indian's and although they may play some Pow wow songs for its listeners, they dont have the slightest clue to NDN ways.....again, none are enrolled NDN's......I know that some of these folks are misrepresenting NDN culture when schools or learning institutions use them to teach younger students about NDN people......I believe they may even be getting paid for it, or donations of some sort may be involved.....they refer to their Elders, but again none of them are enrolled in a Tribe (and the law states "there can be no tribe without indians") Their supposed Elders (Grandma Mechi and June Two Shivers Perry) may have good intentions, but could never be afforded True Respect by True NDN people as True NDN people Respect their elders.
For True NDN people can easily see through the facade they present......
educatedindian:
The leader of this group is Patricia Garza AKA Mechi Garza. She's clearly a fraud and been discussed before.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=68892cccb7ece60bca6b6daeb719e623&topic=603.0
The site says Linda Holtz began the group, but it seems pretty strongly under Garza's control now. Her ceremony selling and workshops are all over the site.
Elsewhere on the site they promote Jamie Samms and David Carson, plus the phony Rainbow Warriors "prophecy".
The rest of the group seem to be very naive and lost PODIAs. Susan "Redhawk" Travis, for example, shows up on a forum talking about being adopted and assuming her father was NDN because he appeared to have dark skin in photos and there were other photos of him with what she thought were NDN women.
Later on she claimed to be different tribes, but joined a wannabe "Metis" group, OMAA, which sold dubious membership cards they claim would give you hunting and fishing rights.
http://forum.americanindiantribe.com/viewtopic.php?t=2583&highlight=&sid=b6a79601d0fdce1638106eb7756e6efd
http://www.omaa.org/page_11_Join_or_renew_membership.htm
Moved to Frauds.
Tsisqua:
Linda Holtz eh? Figures
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