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Carlos Sauer, Enota
« on: June 26, 2010, 08:24:52 pm »
Is anything known about this guy? http://carlossauershamanichealing.blogspot.com/ ... a German follower offers a 14-day trip to Brazil  http://www.seeschamane.de/index2.htm

Bio copied from his site
    A native of Brazil, Carlos began studying Spiritual Healing and Brazilian Spiritist Depossession work as a teenager, around 1978, and received his primary training from his mother and sister, Myrian and Maria Lucia Sauer. In 1981, he came to the United States and lived in Big Sur, CA where he spent 20 years at Esalen Institute working and studying Shamanic Healing. His primary teachers are Michael Harner PhD, anthropologist and founder of The Foundation of Shamanic Studies, and Hector Gomez, a Native American church roadman from Argentina. Other teachers include Nelson Turtle, a Cheyenne Native American church roadman elder and Carlos’ adopted father, and Crow Bear, Sun Dancer from the Mohawk tribe. Carlos received his Esalen massage certificate in 1984 and was the coordinator and facilitator for the Esalen Institute Sweat Lodge from 1996 to 2004. Carlos taught Depossession trainings for the graduate students of the Foundation of Shamanic Studies for 6 years and currently teaches basic workshops in Shamanism for the FSS in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. He also teaches workshops privately in the US, Europe and Brazil, and continues to facilitate Sweat Lodge ceremonies.

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Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2012, 10:39:38 pm »
Website: http://www.carlossauer.com/

His name has come up recently in connection to some pretty serious pay to pray scandals. Maybe some of the AIMsters who were directly involved in confronting people over the pay to pray would like to comment.

He seems to be a non-Native raking in the dough selling ceremony, primarily to Europeans.

Since he is involved in selling "Sweat Lodge Ceremony", "Native American Teachings", "Shamanic Healing"  and even a pay-to-pray, spiritual tourism Sun Dance where Europeans are paying thousands of dollars to attend, I think it's pretty clear he should be moved to Frauds.

Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 03:10:11 am »
Somehow, they are taking a group into the Grand Canyon in Michigan, USA.  That ought to be
interesting..
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Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2013, 07:59:20 pm »
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There is no charge for attending a Sweat Lodge ceremony; however, it is an understanding among the elders and chiefs of the native people that monetary donations are welcomed.

http://carlossauer.com/sweat-lodge.html

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Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2014, 08:03:35 pm »
ENOTA

Journey into Your Heart Sweat Lodge
Weekend Retreat

North Georgia Mountains between Helen, Hiawassee, Blairsville
 
Weekend Ceremonial Gathering
Journey into Your Heart with Sweat Lodge
with Carlos Sauer

Friday November 18 - Sunday November 20, 2011

Renew your spirit with this weekend's special healing journey.
Journey into your heart with a Sweat Lodge purification ceremony
Participate in Native American & Brazilian chants & drum beats
Work with sacred herbs for self cleansing and healing
Participate in an evening Healing Circle
Greet the new day with ceremony, drumming & singing
Discover indigenous spirituality of both Brazilian & Native American ways
Rejoice with a ceremonial dinner & blessing
Process the healing received in a Fire Circle
Experience simple Shamanic Healing techniques
Cleanse unwanted energies and negative feelings
Learn to live in a state of balance and harmony
This weekend retreat is designed for people interested in learning about the spiritual path (way of life) of indigenous people. The spiritual path of the Native Americans is called Red Road.  We will be learning about the spirituality of the Native Americans and Brazilian Indians. In addition to a series of special teachings, Carlos will also conduct the ancient healing ceremony - the sweat lodge.
Native people have been singing their prayers for thousands of years. These prayerful songs have great depth and power as they have been passed down for generations.  We will be drumming, singing and learning different chants from the Cheyenne, Chumash and Lakota traditions to name a few. Come with your hand drums, rattles, flutes and other music makers as we will journey together into the heart by chanting healing songs. This practice empowers our inner essence, creating an environment that induces healing for all participants and our planet.
     
Part of Carlos' ceremony at Enota Mountain Retreat

SWEAT LODGE INIPI DESCRIPTION

 Sweat Lodge is an ancient purification ceremony used by different cultures especially indigenous people around the world to worship our Mother Earth and to honor our relationship with all living things on our planet and the Universe.

We pray and sing together for the four directions focusing our attention on the great mystery of life. As the hearts of the participants begin to open, healing occurs as we experience the healing powers of Fire, Water, Earth and Air. The powers of the four elements keep us and all are relatives alive, and the teachings of the four directions, the East, South, West and North bring us knowledge and wisdom.
click here for more information on the lodge, surroundings, and ceremony
 
CARLOS SAUER'S CREDENTIALS

 Carlos Sauer was first introduced to the Sweat Lodge purification ceremony in 1981 at Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California. He worked as a fireman for over 15 years for many Sweat Lodge leaders such as Hector Gomez, a roadman from Argentina. Another teacher was Crowbear, a Sundancer from the Mohawk tribe. Carlos had the honor to participate in Sweat Lodges with Wesley Black Elk and his deceased father, Wallace Black Elk from the Lakota tribe.

 In 1991, Carlos met his adopted father Nelson Turtle, a roadman from the Southern Cheyenne Tribe from Oklahoma. Carlos worked side by side with Nelson for many years and was encourage to lead Sweat Lodges by Nelson Turtle in 1996. Carlos is connected to the Native American church, and by rights he received Nelson Turtle's Cheyenne fireplace in 2005. Carlos has been conducting Sweat Lodges in the US and in Europe for over 14 years. He is very honored and deeply touched to be learning the Native American ways of the Red Road from such great teachers and elders and to have received the encouragement, support and the blessings of his primary teachers, especially his deceased Cheyenne dad, Nelson Turtle.

Excerpt: Carlos & the Sweat Lodge


It is a great blessing that some Native American elders are open and kind, generous and willing to share their teachings and beautiful knowledge to people of all walks of life.
For more information visit Carlos' website

JOURNEY INTO YOUR HEART SWEAT LODGE WEEKEND SCHEDULE

Friday

5:00 p.m. Welcome and meet your fellow participants.  Questions and answers with Carlos Sauer.

6:00 p.m. Healthy, Fresh, Home-made Dinner

7:00 p.m. Evening Healing Circle

Workshop Introduction: Participants will have a chance to introduce themselves and meet each other. We will begin to learn about smudging and the use of sacred herbs such as sweet grass, sage, bear root and cedar for self cleansing and healing. We will also begin to learn different drum beats and Native American chants.


Saturday

8:30 a.m. Breakfast

10:00 am -12:30 noon Greeting the New Day :

We will begin our day by drumming and singing facing the sun as we welcome a new day that we have never experienced before.

Carlos will teach about indigenous ways both Brazilian and Native American as we prepare for the sacred sweat lodge purification ceremony. Teaching will be geared towards a deep understanding of this sacred ceremony and how it can help us to heal and bring our lives into a state of balance and harmony. We can truly heal our mind ,body and spirit with this ancient healing ceremony.

1:00 p.m. Light Lunch

2:00 p.m. Sweat Lodge Ceremony and Journey into the Heart

Carlos will guide the group how to receive the most from the sweat lodge by journeying into the heart.  We will sing and pray from the heart and keep our minds and our hearts open.

The tradition of the Sweat Lodge conducted by Carlos Sauer is called Little Boy - Little Girl or Young Men's Lodge. It is not a Lakota traditional ceremony, in the sense that it is much more gentle then other traditional Lodges. This tradition was pass down by the elders of Cheyenne/Arapaho tribes to encourage the teenagers and young ones to participate and begin to learn from this amazing healing ceremony.

Items to bring:
Clothing for the sweat (women traditionally wear modest tops and long skirts but may also wear sarongs, men can wear sarongs or shorts)
Towel & Change of clothes for afterwards
Plastic bag for wet clothing
Blanket or coat to wrap up in after Lodge (if it is cool)
1 gallon of distilled water (you can fill up at Enota)
Any items you wish blessed during the Lodge
You may bring a bag tobacco, corn meal, sage, or sweet grass to honor the teacher and the land
click here for more information on the lodge, surroundings, and ceremony

6:00 p.m. Ceremonial dinner and Blessing of the Food

8:00 p.m. Fire circle

In this fire circle we will relax and process the healing received in the sweat lodge. We will drum, sing and pray around the fire as Carlos gives a more in depth introduction to Brazilian Indigenous and Native American ways of life.

Sunday:

8:30 a.m. Breakfast

10:00 a.m. -12 noon  Shamanic Healing, Greet the New Day and Closing Circle

We will sing and drum facing the sun to welcome the new day.  To conclude our weekend we will discuss how to continue on the healing path and how to incorporate the ways of the red road into our everyday lives with songs, use of herbs and prayer.

We will also learn and practice a simple Shamanic Healing technique on ourselves and on each other to help clear and cleanse unwanted energies and negative feelings.

There will be a closing circle where participants will have an opportunity to give feedback and express their thoughts and feelings about their experience in the sweat lodge and the workshop.

Participants will go home with these Native songs in their hearts and will be able to continue to practice the use of smudging combined with the Shamanic healing technique that they learned and practiced in the workshop.

HOW TO ATTEND

REGISTRATION CLOSED

Space is always limited for a sweat lodge, so register early before registration closes on this retreat.

All registrations include healthy freshly prepared meals, Carlos' teachings, sweat lodge ceremony, and the experience of Enota's hiking trails, waterfalls, streams, and organic farm & garden.
$375.00

November 18 - 20, 2011
Enota Journey into Your Heart Sweat Lodge Weekend Retreat with lodging in the Dormitories (shared accommodations,  bathroom & shower) or in a Tent Site on the Stream (you bring all camping equipment)      
 $495.00

November 18 - 20, 2011
Enota Journey into Your Heart Sweat Lodge Weekend Retreat with single occupancy lodging in a Private Motel Room (queen bed, bathroom & shower, private accommodations)      
 $820.00
for 2 people

November 18 - 20, 2011
Enota Journey into Your Heart Sweat Lodge Weekend Retreat with double occupancy lodging in a Private Motel Room (queen bed, bathroom & shower, private accommodations)
INCLUDES 2 REGISTRATIONS      
$325.00

November 18 - 20, 2011
Enota Journey into Your Heart Sweat Lodge Weekend Retreat with NO OVERNIGHT LODGING
COMMUTER REGISTRATION

* Registrations may be transferred to another participant, but can not be refunded nor credited

There is no direct or additional charge for attending the sweat lodge and it is an understanding among the elders of the native people that donations are welcome. Please never offer donations in form of money around the Sweat Lodge ceremonial grounds.  Thank you.

For more information on this weekend's registration options or lodging, please contact Enota at 706-896-0828 or events@enota.com

For more information on this weekend's activities, teachings, or sweat lodge, please contact Carlos at 404-578-2430 or carlossauer1@gmail.com

More dates to be announced soon - please add to your name to the mailing  list below to be informed of additional dates

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Enota Mountain Retreat
1000 State Road 180
Hiawassee, GA  30546
events@enota.com
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Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2014, 08:42:21 pm »
We have a thread on Carlos Sauer here: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2759

Sauer is also mentioned in the Vernon Foster thread: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3430

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Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
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Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 01:37:32 pm »
thank you
I was looking up a man called Hector Gomez
when i found the other site
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Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 01:39:59 pm »
he say he was taught by Hector Gomez does anyone have information on him
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Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2014, 10:29:11 pm »
Except for Sauer's claim to have been taught by him, the only place I found with Gomez online is teaching a course with a young German graduate student on shamanism.

When did the NAC supposedly get down to Argentina? I've never even heard of them being in Mexico.

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Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2014, 04:33:32 pm »
he say he was taught by Hector Gomez does anyone have information on him
I found him on the www.agape.be site with picture where they claim he is from argentina, and for 27 years he was taugt by the elders of the toas community. At agape he is a geust teacher
within a pricey 3 years Sweatlodge leader training

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Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2014, 09:36:33 am »
he say he was taught by Hector Gomez does anyone have information on him
I found him on the www.agape.be site with picture where they claim he is from argentina, and for 27 years he was taugt by the elders of the toas community. At agape he is a geust teacher
within a pricey 3 years Sweatlodge leader training
when i click on the website from agape i find another site so maybe this could work better
www.agapebelgium.be

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Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2014, 06:52:47 am »
following statement is translated by google

http://www.agapebelgium.be/content/sweatlodge-leader-training

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"Sweat Lodge Leader

The use of the sweat lodge by Natives of North America is based on a very widespread tradition. The West has a culture of laws and regulations, which we do not know what tradition is. Spiritual traditions always have a reason, which is linked to mythology, natural phenomena and 'how spirit works.

Despite all the destruction and attempts to remove different traditions, there are still many tribes and each have their own way of doing things. There are many different ways that things can work .. The sweat lodge comes to us westerners, from different tribes and traditions, and by different people. So we have a lot to learn about the sweat lodge. Seemingly contradictory things

The enthusiasm of us Westerners often exceeds the skills and knowledge to lead. Ceremonies in a good way The path of the sweat lodge leader is never finished, we continue to deepen our relationship with the sweat lodge.

Leading a sweat lodge can not and should not be underestimated. As a leader, you are responsible for the safety of all and all the people who are with you in the sweat lodge there. You have to go in with a clear mind, as a leader you can not hide problems when you enter the cabin. You can pray for purification, but if you yourself are not willing to be purified of your own anger, jealousy and so you can lead a better cabin.

It has been known for centuries that often sweat a therapeutic effect and has a healing effect in many cases. "Give me a fever and I can cure any disease," said Hippocrates. Anyway sweating is a necessary function of the body. It effectively removes toxins so that the skin is called the "third kidney" is mentioned.

Besides the physical healing and often testing the sweat lodge can also be an emotional, mental Sweatlodge Lead Eren spiritual event in which the necessary healing takes place.

This training was developed after years of searching, along with Elders from various traditions, who are willing to reach out to out of respect to lead the sweat lodge and respecting the traditions and "all things." Westerners handles on

Ceremonies, what are they for?

For healing, health and happiness of people. Ceremonies are there to help you live in beauty and in harmony with life and with each other, "to walk in beauty 'people. Ceremonies are about life, about power. They connect us to Mother Earth and teach us about respect, discipline and perseverance. Everything we do has a reason and everything has a reason!

The sweat lodge is like a living being, the red-hot stones are the heart, the blood water, steam, the arms that embrace us. We treat the sweat lodge with respect, it is a sacred place, a power spot, charged with the energy of life.

This course runs over three years and you get about teaching:


     - The symbolism and mythology of the sweat lodge, the poles, the cover, the spirit path, the door, the altar, the fire pit ...

     - The, what we call, "four elements": fire, grandfather, grandmother water, mother earth, father sky (the sky).

     - The stone people and the stone ceremonies

     - The connection of the sweat lodge with thunderbeings

     - The four directions

     - The role of the fire keeper, doorkeeper, water woman

     - The sacred herbs

     - Spirit songs

     - Pray and sacrifice

     - Spirit, what is this and how does spirit

     - Ceremonial leadership.

     - and Others


 

The basic training consists of 7 blocks of 3 days. Each module we are going to sweat lodges, to connect on a deeper level, where you will learn different ways to assist. Sweatlodge during these blocks, you get the basisteachings ceremony and sweat. The training is provided by Dirk Ghekiere, Bill Braveheart (USA), Tom Cook (USA), Loretta Afraid of Bear (USA). Ron Evans (Can) is a consultant and supervisor of this training.

In addition to this basic training, there are refresher courses and training huts where you will practice huts to give teachings and which are further explored. Chance itself There is always a block in the spring and one in autumn. Two of the four days are always led by natives.

Sweat Lodge Leader trainingWie has not followed the training firekeeper not initiated, and no 10 fires have herded can do in between this. The fire keepers training includes two four-day, each time in the first week of June, from Wednesday to Saturday.

Anyone who is willing to walk the path of sweat lodge leader will accompany at least 10 practice cabins, 2 cabins under the supervision of an elder, before he guides cabins for external people.

Elsewhere in this training are: Ron Evans (Ojibwe - Cree), Bill Braveheart and Loretta Afraid of Bear (Lakota), Tom Cook (Mohawk), Hector Gomez (Arapaho - Cheyenne), Jose Brown etc. The training is chaired by Dirk Ghekiere of different Elsewhere permission has been given the wisdom to pass. tradition of the sweat lodge

After finishing the training you can join the 'fox medicine society on a regular basis teachings about sweat lodge and cabins organizes training"



There are other trainings for psychotherapuetic treatments and their mental deseases. But some points are strange to me.

They offer therapies
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  angst- en onzekerheidsklachten,  depressieve klachten, vragen over zingeving, omgaan met agressie en boosheid, omgaan met rouw en afscheid, identiteitsproblematieken, traumaverwerking  , relatiebegeleiding"

in english:
    " anxiety and uncertainty complaints

     depressive symptoms

     questions about meaning

     aggression and anger

     dealing with grief and farewell

     identity problematics

     trauma counseling

     relationship counseling"



I know
Anxiety and panic disorders
Personal identity disorders
Trauma counseling does not state at what the teachers mean.

The body therapy is an important part if some one works with people with mental issues, but noone need to be examinated in a psychological profession to get the right to learn this. But if someone works with people with mental issues he / she must be instructed how to treat and how to be in the contact. I doubt this institute is able to teach a substantiated knowledge about this indispensable important facts.
The combination and therapy-ways of these ceremonies are not good way in my opinion.

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Re: Carlos Sauer, Enota
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2014, 01:06:54 pm »
oh my :(
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