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General => Research Needed => Topic started by: bonestyx on October 14, 2008, 06:49:21 am

Title: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: bonestyx on October 14, 2008, 06:49:21 am
I visited the local brew pub here in Sedona the other night and on the way out spotted a home produced 8.5" x 11" poster by this woman offering a "sweat lodge" and "sacred pipe ceremony" for a "donation" of $10 (or so) and $15 (or so) respectively. Also advertised was the vegan potluck to follow and the "possibility of sleeping in a tipi!" (exclamation point not my own). This information appeared to have been hand written with a fat point sharpie across an enlarged image of copyrighted artwork (By this person, who is dead:http://www.turningpointgallery.com/original.asp (http://www.turningpointgallery.com/original.asp)).

I removed the poster and later burned it (couldn't help myself - camp fire was quite opportune later that night). I looked around online to find the inevitable website. Here it is:

http://www.geocities.com/hummingbirdspiraling/index.html

Seems her name is Annie Hummingbird according to http://www.sedonainformation.com/spiritual_guidance_healers.php (http://www.sedonainformation.com/spiritual_guidance_healers.php)

Obviously, she doesn't have enough money yet to spring for her own domain. She makes no mention of teachers or associates on her site that I could see. Only vaguely mentions her involvement with nameless Sundancers.

But really, what kind of message does this woman think she's sending by advertising - of all places - in a brew pub?! She evidently has no clue what a scourge alcohol is and has been to those whose ways she is co-opting for a profit. She's really one of the grossest of her kind that I've seen so far this visit south. The get worse each winter.

These people really have no shame and it seems the worst of the worst eventually end up here in Sedona.


(As a side note, I think may have met this woman in person years ago when I first came to visit this part of Arizona. I was having a conversation with her near a creek. I had a sterling silver representation of the Earth on a bracelet which I lost at that moment in time...*plonk* into the creek.)

Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: bonestyx on October 14, 2008, 06:51:43 am
Saw this little zinger in her bio:

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I was always very closed to mother earth since forever, so I decided to really honor that precious relationship


Very closed indeed. Always interesting how a typo can sometimes reveal a painful (and generally unspoken) truth.
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: Kevin on October 14, 2008, 11:25:28 am
Yeh, she is closed all right. What a hoot. I bet the little hummingbirds don't think much of her using their name either. Sleeping in a tipi too! Ohhhh, talk about communing with nature!
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: zoi lightfoot on October 18, 2008, 06:26:08 pm
Apparently she could "feel" my energy and didn't want to tell me what Band or which Elders taught her.Not "feel" me enough to know i am MRS and not Mr Lightfoot though
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: zoi lightfoot on October 18, 2008, 06:38:13 pm
Here we go.
Hummigbird
Spirit Caller
Ceremonies for the empowerment of the spirit
Mother Turtle,White Buffalo Healing Lodge
Serving the Sedona area
928 451 2000
hummingbirdspiraling@yahoo.com

Shes "mainly" (her words) French Canadian,though she "beleives" (again her words not mine)she's Montagniase (Inu) nation (again her words)
Shes another nuager guys its painfully obvious when and if you get her to respond to you.
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: bonestyx on October 18, 2008, 10:36:48 pm
She's probably mad because I sent her this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Tk0asdWoI
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: educatedindian on October 19, 2008, 07:28:07 am
Didn't it ever occur to her that a hummingbird spiraling would be one that's out of control or can't fly right? Only someone whose never been around birds (or heck, probably not around nature except the Disney movie fantasy version) would choose thatr name. It's like choosing the "Indian name" of "Eagle Plopping to the Ground".

Nice mishmash of unrelated tribes' beliefs too. White Buffalo and mother turtle do not have anything to do with Innu tradition.

Yeah, she got herself a ceremony selling website, but can't afford to pay for one yet.
http://www.geocities.com /hummingbirdspiraling/

Aren't commercial sites barred on geocities?

Gotta love that white buckskin outfit. Pat Boone might sue. Or Elvis impersonators.

Some of these would be ceremonies are so ridiculous. "Ceremonial hiking"? And a 100 bucks a day for vision quest. Basically you're paying for her to leave you alone and not give you anything to eat. Adults call that "sending the kid to bed without supper." Except the kids aren't dumb enough to pay for it.

The bear healing ceremony? You lie on a bearskin...oh wait, they also "set the intention."

And "dragon blood" in a sweatlodge? Anybody's guess? Pig or cow from the butcher? Or ground up tofu with food coloring?

I'd like to say that only in Sedona would anyone be dumb enough to actually pay this woman for things this comically ridiculous, but I'd probably be wrong.
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: educatedindian on October 19, 2008, 08:25:38 am
She's also, what else, a pipe carrier. Tribe conveniently left out, and willing to lie to children.

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http://www.forrestfest.com/catalog.html
2008 Forrest Fest Guests 
 Annie Hummingbird, Jerome, Arizona
Sacred Pipe Carrier, Healer, Storyteller and drumming leader, Annie Hummingbird will assist us in the opening cremony for Forrest Fest Volunteers and the tree dedication on Saturday morning. She will also be available for Storytelling adventures with school age children
 
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One of her friends advertising it is Mary Andrews Swimming Kangaroo. I swear I'm not making that up.

And you can do astro journeys with her. I can't help but think of the Jetsons.
http://www.astrojourneys.com/Itinerary.pdf


Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: Spaewife on October 19, 2008, 02:04:07 pm
The Dragons Blood is probably the resin from like a variety of 'plants' like Dracaena terminalis,  Croton sanguifolius, or Calamus rotang.
The terminalis I know  is used in the making of the red varnish on Chinese furniture, but the I think it's the roots are used medicinally.  Dysentary comes to mind.

There are lots of 'varieties' of the plants all over the world.  It's also sold at times as Dragon Tears, because that is what or how the resin dries or the shape. 

Most I've ever seen it used by others is similar to using copal or frankincense on hot coals, or looks like in this case hot rocks.   Its not bad smelling.. but I'm not sure I'd want to be in a confined area if a bunch of it was tossed on a coal or such.  I've never been one to purchase it, primarily cause when I did look into it, it was insanely expensive.

As far as the humming birds.. only time I've seen them go in circles so to speak is either when they are squabbling over a feeder.. or flying around them but, I don't believe that constitues a 'spiral' rofl. 
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: zoi lightfoot on October 19, 2008, 03:08:03 pm
I can confirm Al that nope you are sadly not making that that up.She also wants not one but two of those pipes between us if ever we meet.(doesn't want much huh)The child is playing with things she has no comprehention of,let alone the right to dabble with like a kid at a pic n mix cndy counter..but that is my personal self expression and does not alter the fact shes a nuager.
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: Defend the Sacred on October 19, 2008, 07:15:28 pm
http://www.geocities.com/hummingbirdspiraling/
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The ceremonies that I facilitate come from different backgrounds. When we initiate goddess-like rites of passage, the ceremony will carry a Celtic essence to it. If I am called to facilitate a drumming circle with children, you might see me wearing wings and blessing the drum with glitter. If I am called to share the sacred pipe, I will use my Native background.

F-ing nauseating.

Because, you know, glitter is sacred; and having an Irish ancestor somewhere in your family tree means your nuage fantasies and made-up rituals are therefore "Celtic." This one is cut from the same cloth as White Ego Fraud, just less successful.

Yeah, Dragon's Blood is a resin, used to make blood-red ink, and as a component in some incenses and oils. You'll often find it in general occult recipes in use among Western Ceremonial Magic people, Wiccans, and some of the Afro-Diasporic traditions that have been influenced by those strains of occultism. Needless to say, it's not from Arizona, and the idea of using it in a sweat is bizarre and upsetting.
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: zoi lightfoot on October 20, 2008, 10:41:11 am
Hands up all those who are or know of members of the snail clan,who in the words of Annie,leave slime trails (nice)she openly admits that she tells the kids this.She's also making a nod towards Metis.
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: zoi lightfoot on November 07, 2008, 12:45:28 pm
We've picked up a very disruptive young woman calling herself Greenhummingbird on one of Treaty House's linked sites.I'd be grateful if anyone picks up a link between her and "spirilling" can you let me know,thanks.
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: bonestyx on November 10, 2008, 09:09:44 pm
I could not find anything anywhere about this person. Can you post links?
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: bonestyx on November 10, 2008, 09:32:07 pm
Actually - I take that back.

I found a MySpace profile for someone in Las Cruces by the name of Eileene who uses the moniker "Greenhummingbird".

In her profile, I found some photos. Could this (the brunette on the right - http://tinyurl.com/56rkxp (http://tinyurl.com/56rkxp)) be her?



What I've been able to find out:


Eileene Toni Soltero (sometimes transposes first and middle names)
Married to Robert A. Soltero
DOB: October 1959
Las Cruces, NM

No evident links to Annie of Sedona.
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: zoi lightfoot on November 11, 2008, 01:47:54 pm
Thanks for the link,the blonde looks familiar but if that means anything or not is debateable,It may be just odd coincidence that while Humminbird is being daft with me,a greenhummingbird shows up on our sites and starts being a bit of a troll.But i will check that out.Thanks for going to the trouble.
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: staunch on November 12, 2010, 04:12:59 am
I found this forum and thread recently and was disappointed in the gossipy tone of the 'holy than thou' in this thread!
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: Laurel on November 12, 2010, 10:10:13 am
Uh oh. Someone who doesn't bother to introduce himself/herself posts a drive-by (?) saying we've disappointed him or her, without explaining why. ???

Guess we'd all better stop what we're doing right away, huh?

staunch, this thread was long dead before your disappointment brought it to everyone's attention again. ::)
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: staunch on May 11, 2013, 08:14:44 am
 :'(
Title: Re: "Hummingbird Spiraling: Ceremonial Facilitator, Drummer, Singer & Sound Healer"
Post by: Superdog on May 19, 2013, 12:08:19 am
Oh my....

Staunch, if you're really here to support this woman.  Tell her to stop what she's doing.  Literally, she's selling people fantasies for a price and she's making outrageous claims.

Not to mention....her pages are loaded with malware.  Her behavior should be red flags for some real help.  She's not healing anything....she's just selling performances, not unlike snake oil salesman of the past.

An updated link for anyone wishing to look
http://www.geocities.ws/hummingbirdspiraling/bio.html

...a ceremony for damn near everything and a price included in each.  A talking circle costs $100....wth is that?  Boy scouts do that for free....and they're both doing the same thing....

Her "testimonials" aren't even signed with names....and there's a few clues in the writing that she probably wrote them herself.  None of her "teachers" are named except for a former boyfriend of hers she calls "elk dreamer".

And to top it off....she still hasn't spell checked her site....that's just plain annoying.  You can call this thread "holier than thou" if you want to....but we're not the ones claiming to be holy people who can "heal" you of whatever ails you.  A little reflection perhaps?

Superdog