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General => Frauds => Topic started by: educatedindian on September 19, 2016, 01:01:38 pm

Title: Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: educatedindian on September 19, 2016, 01:01:38 pm
Mentioned here as hijacking pipeline protests.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4911.0

IMPORTANT: There are a number of actual Joseph Medicinehorses further west, several families that have that authentic name, that have zero to do with Delgrosso/Breton.

Linkedin
https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-medicinehorse-b3a37a37

Runs Creationsong, selling dubious teachings to school children for a high price.
http://www.creationsong.com/booking-prices.html

http://www.creationsong.com/dr.-joe.html
Naturopathy

http://www.creationsong.com/what-we-do.html
Peddling it to YMCA and Cub Scouts

Peddling sweatlodges
http://www.c4pt.org/full-moon-lodge.htm
Title: Re: Joseph Delgrosso AKA Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: RedRightHand on September 19, 2016, 05:20:33 pm
I see scary white people. Complete with nuage, "why can't the NDNs all die so we can be the NDNs" memes.

https://www.facebook.com/sacredsorrowsingers/
Title: Re: Joseph Delgrosso AKA Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: Piff on September 19, 2016, 05:41:49 pm
Joseph M. DelGrosso Oregon naturopath license https://hrlb.oregon.gov/OBNM/licenseelookup/detail.asp?num=1012987&searchby=INDEXNAME&searchfor=DELGROSSO&stateselect=NONE

NY does not have licensing for naturopaths http://drdelgrosso.com/faq/

Title: Re: Joseph Delgrosso AKA Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: Piff on September 19, 2016, 06:11:01 pm
Joseph Albert Breton is a licensed ND in Connecticut. Active license #202, granted 1999, no actions or pending charges

https://www.elicense.ct.gov/Lookup/LicenseLookup.aspx

Title: Re: Joseph Delgrosso AKA Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: Piff on September 19, 2016, 06:51:32 pm
I don't think Joseph M DelGrosso and Joseph Albert Breton are the same person. Pull up photos of each and compare.

Title: Re: Joseph Delgrosso AKA Joseph Medicinehorse / Sacred Sorrow Singers
Post by: Defend the Sacred on September 19, 2016, 07:41:53 pm
Can you post photos of him/them here? Or point out in this video?

Content Note... self-absorbed newage pretendians, racism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-DUgDXoq5E
Title: Re: Joseph Delgrosso AKA Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: Piff on September 19, 2016, 08:29:50 pm
Joseph Breton http://www.creationsong.com/what-we-do.html (http://www.creationsong.com/what-we-do.html) Naturopath in Connecticut, he is wearing a purple top in the Sacred Sorrow Singers video .19 mark shows him clearly. His bio says he has been a naturopath in Connecticut for over 16 years.

Joseph DelGrosso, naturopath in NY. http://drdelgrosso.com/about-me/ (http://drdelgrosso.com/about-me/) Comparing the two photos, I believe this is a different man.

The original connection was made here:

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Joseph Medicinehorse, the group’s founder and leader, is a graduate of Oregon’s National College of Naturopathic Medicine and an adjunct professor at the University of Bridgeport, where he teaches “Nutrition, Oncology and the Philosophy of Healing.” A search for “Medicinehorse” in the National College of Naturopathic Medicine alumni directory yields no results. A search for “Joseph” reveals “Dr. Joe’s” real last name: DelGrosso. Under his actual name, DelGrosso’s personal website advertises naturopathic medical treatment, but makes no mention of Sacred Sorrow Singers.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4911.0 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4911.0)

I can see how the author possibly made a mistake, an assumption here. They found a "Joseph" and assumed it is the same Joseph. Both naturopaths, both went to the same school, both named Joseph. But there are of course many Josephs and not that many naturopathic colleges https://aanmc.org/naturopathic-schools/ (https://aanmc.org/naturopathic-schools/) , so going to the same one does not mean they are the same person.



Title: Re: Joseph Delgrosso AKA Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: Piff on September 19, 2016, 09:21:23 pm
Source of Joseph Breton uploaded clips:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-DUgDXoq5E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-DUgDXoq5E)

http://www.creationsong.com/dr.-joe.html (http://www.creationsong.com/dr.-joe.html)

http://www.c4pt.org/drjoe/ (http://www.c4pt.org/drjoe/)

Both the second and third sites have the same phone number listed (860) 992-2810
Title: Re: Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: educatedindian on September 21, 2016, 01:29:32 am
Corrected thread title. Moved to Frauds. Breton is clearly doing fake versions of ceremony for profit. The school districts, YMCA, and cub scouts should know better. Contacting them could remove the biggest sources of his funding.

The Sacred Sorrow Singers, as the original article stated, seem to be mostly naive people rather than malicious, though offensive. Think of them as being like white kids into hip hop who try to "talk Black," or what they think is Black.
Title: Re: Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: Piff on September 21, 2016, 03:10:21 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARSCb9MwFU4 Chant-Dance with Dr. Joe Breton. This brief video is worth reviewing to see what all he is doing with children.

He is wearing some sort of mask in the beginning.
Title: Re: Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: Crazyfish on June 20, 2017, 10:30:54 pm
I want to g ive you all an up date on this one. This guy is out working the circuit up in the Northeast. Claims he did some "Sundance"  and serious healing ceremonies down in Mexico...  You can find him on Facebook under Joseph Breton.... They just up loaded  a bunch of vidoes of their lasted activities.
Title: Re: Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: RedRightHand on June 21, 2017, 12:20:02 am
I want to g ive you all an up date on this one. This guy is out working the circuit up in the Northeast. Claims he did some "Sundance"  and serious healing ceremonies down in Mexico...  You can find him on Facebook under Joseph Breton.... They just up loaded  a bunch of vidoes of their lasted activities.

https://www.facebook.com/Joseph.BretonND

Serious ego displays, more like. Pretendian shameon show. People, keep your kids away from this man. He's selling lies and racism.
Title: Re: Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: Crazyfish on June 22, 2017, 01:08:14 am
This is the link to his event page for programs: http://www.creationsong.com/events.html (http://www.creationsong.com/events.html)
Title: Re: Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: Crazyfish on June 22, 2017, 04:12:06 am
One of his associates is this woman Lisa Rae - her Facebook page:

 https://m.facebook.com/lisa.rae.756?pn_ref=story (https://m.facebook.com/lisa.rae.756?pn_ref=story)
Title: Re: Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: Crazyfish on June 22, 2017, 01:22:51 pm
Another one of his associates is this one: Jesse Mathews a minister and justice of the peace. He seems to post a lot about the Sacred Sorrow singers and their activities. His Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/cmsrjessy.matthews/friends_mutual?pnref=eh (https://www.facebook.com/cmsrjessy.matthews/friends_mutual?pnref=eh)
Title: Re: Joseph Breton AKA Joseph Medicinehorse
Post by: Crazyfish on June 27, 2017, 12:01:10 pm
Look like they are scheduled to be in Portland Maine for this festival:

 https://www.facebook.com/events/1351351354900552/?ti=cl (https://www.facebook.com/events/1351351354900552/?ti=cl)