Author Topic: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull  (Read 31445 times)

Offline Barnaby_McEwan

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Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« on: April 30, 2005, 07:40:54 pm »
He claims on his website that he was in the US Olympic judo team in 1964:

http://www.ten-no-kishi.com/

Trisha shows on her site that that's rubbish:

http://users.pandora.be/gohiyuhi/frauds/frd0011.htm

Here's a twist: guess who was the captain of that team? Former Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell, who has also been US judo champion three times:

http://www.powersource.com/campbell/default.html

I'm also curious about Regan's claim to have been world ju-jitsu champion between 1967-70. John Linebarger is a US Ju-Jitsu Federation rep for Arizona:

http://www.usjujitsu.net/bio/index.htm

http://www.wkf.org/dir.psdi/personnel/psdiLinebarger.html

Perhaps somebody in the US would consider contacting him, since I'm sure he'd be in a position to verify Regan's claims.

Regan refers to himself as a 'soke': this is incorrect. It's a Japanese word roughly meaning 'headmaster' and only applies to the head of a Japanese 'koryu' or classical martial-arts school. Regan himself says he's 'blended' an existing school with 'American Indian Fighting Arts', and that his instruction combines just about every martial art there is:

http://www.ten-no-kishi.com/#more

Here are a couple of in-depth articles about classical Japanese martial-arts instruction, which demonstrate that Regan should not refer to himself that way:

http://www.koryu.com/koryu.html

http://www.koryu.com/library/mskoss4.html

Oh yeah, I forgot something: the prestigious '1994 Golden Life Achievement Award' from the World Martial Arts Hall of Fame. Regan bought that award, as does every other tough guy who brags about similar accolades. I couldn't find a website which might tell me something about that mysterious institution, but I did find this posted on a martial-arts forum:

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I was talking to my Sensei about this last night (the world champion thing) and he said "It get's worse". He said that at least three times a year he gets offers to be inducted into the Martial arts Hall of Fame, the World Martial Arts Hall of Fame, and a few others. Apparently you can choose from an array of awards that you want to be given! And they have a huge ceramony where you fly out to some convention center and sit with a hole bunch of other guys who bought these awards  They all clap for each other and pat each other on the back  Now is that the DUMBEST thing you have ever heard?


http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/search/topic/20604-1.html

I also found hundreds of links to others who'd bought into this Hall of Fame. I've never heard of any of them.
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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2005, 05:11:17 am »
If I remember right - Ben Nighthorse Campbell was the Captain of the US team in 1964 - coach from around '64 to '67 or so - and yes I've seen the pictures to prove that he was in Japan at the Olympics in "64 - It sure is "odd" that Harley is not in any of all those pictures and that Ben has NEVER ever mentioned him  - perhaps with all that legislating it just slipped his mind.


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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2005, 03:23:42 pm »
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If I remember right - Ben Nighthorse Campbell was the Captain of the US team in 1964 - coach from around '64 to '67 or so


He coached the US *international* team rather than the Olympic team - but I had to go and look it up on the powersource.com page on Campbell's career that I quoted earlier.

Yoshihiro Uchida was the Olympic coach at that time. Here's a page on him:

http://www.asianpacificfund.org/awards/bio_uchida.shtml

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and yes I've seen the pictures to prove that he was in Japan at the Olympics in "64 - It sure is "odd" that Harley is not in any of all those pictures and that Ben has NEVER ever mentioned him  - perhaps with all that legislating it just slipped his mind.


Reagan says he seved as an 'alternate' in the team: they don't often seem to be listed, but he also says he competed, and competitors are *always* listed. Reagan's not in any list I've seen.

In looking for team listings, I came across a man called John Roseberry who also says he was an alternate in the '64 US judo team, and is also an ex-Marine (and was in the USAF before that - Reagan also claims he was in the USAF for a time):

http://www.shoreishobukan.org/shihan-article.htm

I wonder whether Reagan has read Campbell's and Roseberry's stories and thought 'Yeah, I'll have some of that glory'.

It's interesting to compare the articles on Uchida and Roseberry with Reagan's publicity material. The former both go out of their way to downplay their achievements, mentioning the countless people who've helped them along the way. John Roseberry, in particular, seems like a shining example of what studying a martial art can do for a person - he evidently used to be a real badass. He's based in Lincoln, Nebraska. Is there anyone nearby who might like to look him up and ask about Reagan's claims?
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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2005, 04:41:21 pm »
Since I'm a "relative" of Ben's - albeit very distant -I think I'll contact him and ask him if he remember any thing about Harley.

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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2005, 11:07:09 pm »
There's an electric-blue Para-Ordnance .45 pistol on his belt, the handle engraved with a red, white and blue eagle and "Gunnie" in black gothic script. "Gunnie" is what he goes by on the range, and nowadays he admits, "People call me Gunnie more than they do Swift Deer…Reagan completed four tours in Vietnam as a gunnery sergeant before being blown out of a helicopter by enemy fire and tumbling 300 feet to the earth. He then was sent to recover at the Bethesda Naval Hospital and was discharged in 1969.

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A Marine Gunnery Sergeant is appropriately referred to as "Gunny" and it is spelled in that manner not "G-u-n-n-i-e."  Anyone who has been in the Corps knows that. Obviously, Harley Reagan doesn't know anymore about the Corps than he does Cherokees.


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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2005, 10:12:44 am »
Thanks, kosowith. If you get the chance, could you also ask him about John Roseberry? My gut feeling is that his Olympic claim, so strangely similar to Harley's, will check out.

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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2005, 01:43:23 pm »
I already sent a request to Ben - but will send another - hopefully he will respond quicker than usual (a couple of months maybe - lol)

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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2005, 06:14:07 pm »
Thanks again!

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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2005, 07:39:20 pm »
Sounds like this guy gets his inspiration from that film Brotherhood of the Wolf, a Mohawk martial artist who helps a Frenchman hunt monsters and demons. Need I say more?   lolol  A good film but total fiction

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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2005, 02:54:50 am »
You may wish to contact Marine Force Recon associations on the net that served in Viet Nam.  They are a small close nit group.  If Swiftdeer was in, they would know.

Matt Bowerman
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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2005, 03:02:28 am »
Another bit of military trivia.  If he served in Force Recon as he claims, he would have had an MOS (Military Occupational Specialty) connect to RECON, or a more specific MOS like 0311-Infranty, 0330-0331- Machine Gun Crewman, 2841 – Radio Repairman, etc.  Most snipers had 0311 MOS’s.  Like I said, Force is very tight so, if he did 4 tours he will be known, especially if he was decorated, and survived a 300 foot nose dive after taking a missile, or rifle propelled grenade up his six.  

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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2005, 03:21:19 am »
I did send his name into one group that busts fake vets. The guy thast ran it was really disgusted.

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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2005, 03:41:09 am »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/people_wedding_crashers;_ylt=AmsCS4_ZbV9rYTHE6JsuFuIEtbAF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
"A bill introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives Friday would expand federal law to allow prosecution of anyone who falsely claims to have earned a military medal or a Purple Heart."

Is it too much to ask that we finally get the feds to go after Swiftdick for this, since they wont go after him for preparing for a race war or any of his other abuses?

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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2005, 03:57:06 am »
Wouldn't that be wonderful?

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Re: Harley Regan's martial-arts bull
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2005, 02:53:55 pm »
Cached link debunking Swiftdick's phony martial arts lineage.

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:5mo9J4mwIx4J:www.e-budo.com/vbulletin/printthread.php%3Fs%3Db7f2c2577d8e37c12cf72684e2e440b1%26threadid%3D12803+%22harley+reagan%22+militia&hl=en
Posted by Don Cunningham on 07-11-2002 11:12 PM:
Certification from the "The International Society of Sokeship Council" and the web site photo of 'His Sokeshipness' includes him wearing a Juko-Kai patch. I think that pretty much sums it all up for me.

Posted by 'renso on 07-12-2002 04:43 AM:
What struck me most is the "5th dan" received by master Tohei. A 5th dan under Koichi Tohei? wow. I know a 5th dan in ki aikido, she has been into it for 35 years.
Also, the description for belt ranking meanings... a brown belt "warrior for mother earth"? ugh!
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Lorenzo Belloni

Posted by n2shotokai on 07-12-2002 08:48 PM:
Doh
Are we sure this isn't just a joke? Check out his school emblem. Karate-DOH?
I think you stumbled onto Homer Simpson's internet money making site. He must have got it back from Mr. Gates. DOH!
Steve Beale

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And here's something interesting. Seems there's some kind of turmoil going on with his "warrior society."
http://www.dtmms.org/wits/index.htm

His "dojo" website is shut down too, but their gun club is still around, maybe because of NRA sponsorship. But he's the only staff member listed anymore.