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Offline NanticokePiney

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Moorish Science Temple
« on: October 10, 2009, 05:05:03 am »
  I ran into one of these people. One of their philosophies is that they are "the real Native Americans"

  Here's a "cleaned up" history of the sect-
  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorish_Science_Temple_of_America

  Here's their Koran, from what I gather they don't like Jews
  
http://www.hermetic.com/bey/7koran.html

  Here it says the Irish are really Muslim
  
http://www.hermetic.com/bey/blackthorn.html

  Here's some of their legal difficulties. It also states the "indigenous American" part
  
http://www.rickross.com/reference/general/general770.html

  Here you can become a "citizen". I love the Nishnab style bag with the Nehru jacket
  
http://www.moorishnationalrepublic.com/

[Al's WARNING- THE LAST LINK ABOVE HAS A VIRUS!]
  More to come....






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Offline NanticokePiney

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2009, 05:28:01 am »


  Here's a group from Ohio claiming "Indigenous"

http://moorsofohio.org/default.aspx
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Offline NanticokePiney

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2009, 06:09:51 am »
  Here it gets really screwy with Atlantis and Mu and Algonquians. The old term for my people, the Cheswold Nanticoke was "Moor". The person I met had this same twisted philosophy about us.

  http://federationmsta.org/algonquin.html

Offline NanticokePiney

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2009, 06:42:43 am »
 Line #8 talks about the "Naticotes as Moors". How come none of these people can spell "Nanticoke"?  ::)


http://azizan_moors.tripod.com/docs/History.html

Offline NanticokePiney

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2009, 07:17:35 am »
 Another branch of the cult. One that is really off the wall.....

http://www.hotep.org/

 You have to click the link to "Washitaw Muurs"
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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2009, 02:55:59 pm »
Their "Koran" ironically mostly has teachings about what they claim Jesus said. And I have no idea why they spell holy as "holey".

Some more links about them. Some are accused of child neglect, believing that healing can come solely through the mind.
 http://www.rickross.com/groups/moorish.html

The Moors of Ohio site lists all the other states where branches of that group are.

http://moorsofohio.org/RoyalStateHouses.aspx
The Indigenous States of  Tnoma:
The Moors of  Michigan, Detroit head quarters
The Moors of  Tennesee
The Moors of Maryland
The Moors of Ohio
The Moors of Florida
The Moors of North Carolina
The Moors of Delaware
The Moors of South Carolina

I see the federation site also passes along the fraudulent Willie Lynch story. They link to a yahoo group Cushite Master Builders, who spread the same kinds of claims that Blacks are the real NDNs.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CushiteMasterBuilders/msearch?query=indigenous&submit=Search&charset=utf-8

And there's some threads in here on the Washitaws. They are a militia group, very dangerous.

Offline Don Naconna

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2009, 03:11:16 pm »
There is much more information about the Moors, Nuwaubians, Washitaw and their various forms in the Tecumseh Brown Eagle thread.  They now include the so called "black Hebrews", which is in the Binay thread (Jerry "Eaglefeather" Monroe's tribe).
All of these groups are non Indians and not really wannabees, they believe that they were the original "Asiatic black Africans" who were the "ancient ones". I saw one of their videos, they claimed to have walked from Africa during Pangea, they even have a map that hasall the continents linked. There are also the Nuwaubians who's "messiah", Dwight York claims to have been born on the Planet Rizq. I have found that the so called Delaware Moors also call themselves Nanticoke, they are from Dagsboro. Those folks are mostly white and a few mulattoes. The irony is that they believe in W.D. Fard, the racist founder of the black Muslims.

Offline NanticokePiney

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2009, 09:05:04 pm »
I have found that the so called Delaware Moors also call themselves Nanticoke, they are from Dagsboro. Those folks are mostly white and a few mulattoes.

  We are actually from Cheswold and are all the same core families as the Nanticokes. The only difference between us and the Nanticoke proper is membership in the association Frank Speck founded.
  The people in Dagsboro (Blackfoot Town) are also some the of core families. Just more diluted with Black, white and Southeastern Siouian families (PeeDee and Monacan). 

Offline NanticokePiney

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2009, 12:46:02 am »
 Southern Poverty Law Center article on the "Empress" of the Washitaw Muurs and their "irregular" activities.


 http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=592

Offline Don Naconna

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2009, 05:31:32 pm »
This thread ties to Tecumseh Brown Eagle and his "tribe". TBE has been able to tie in with white new agers and gambling "interests". His storyline is the same as the Washitaw and adds the paranormal and ET line. What never ceases to amaze me is the languages these folks come up with and their creation stories? "Dugdamoundsduya" really? That's the language of the "ancient ones"!
These people are dangerous because they spread in the large black male prison populations. Some of the offshoots like the black Hebrews are very violent.
The Moorish Science religion has some white followers, I've seen so called "black Dutch" people who claimed to be "Moors" and followed Fard in the 50's. They also claimed to be Cherokee or Creek and from the midwest not the southeast...

Offline Don Naconna

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2009, 09:56:42 pm »
I have found that the so called Delaware Moors also call themselves Nanticoke, they are from Dagsboro. Those folks are mostly white and a few mulattoes.

This link is from the black dutch group...
http://knitandcontemplation.typepad.com/great_grandmothers_blog/



  We are actually from Cheswold and are all the same core families as the Nanticokes. The only difference between us and the Nanticoke proper is membership in the association Frank Speck founded.
  The people in Dagsboro (Blackfoot Town) are also some the of core families. Just more diluted with Black, white and Southeastern Siouian families (PeeDee and Monacan). 

Offline NanticokePiney

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2009, 12:11:03 am »
This link is from the black dutch group...
http://knitandcontemplation.typepad.com/great_grandmothers_blog/


 They twisted Nanticoke-Moor history pretty good here but the only Nanticoke-Moor name is Carney. I noticed one of her sources is someone named Mostafa Raiss-El-Fenni which screams MST.
  They also have a link to the Lenape Tribe of P.A. which they acknowledged as a source. They are known as a fraud group by all the Nanticoke groups so they has never been in contact with the Nanticoke Groups.

 Back on topic.....
 I think we need a separate thread from TBE thread on the Moorish Science Temple and their offshoots because of the huge amount of groups/ people involved. It's better for the "Google Researchers".   

Offline Don Naconna

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2009, 03:24:04 pm »
I agree, the Moorish groups transcend the black and white non Indians who identify themselves as "Indian". They share the same creation mythology as the Washitaw/Nuwaubian/Black Hebrews/Black Olmecs of a super race of mythical black Africans (original ancients ones) who brought their wisdom to the rest of the world including the Americas. The Moors also use the kingdom of Morocco as a "national homeland", which they claim gave them a nationality during slavery. I find this whole phenomenon to be an extension of the new agers, black supremacists, aryanists, UFOlogists, all wrapped uptogether. Did you know that some believe that the word "Moor" comes from the word "Mu" or "Maat" which the new agers and black supremacists claim was Atlantis...

Offline Don Naconna

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2009, 02:15:40 pm »
This thread should be moved to Frauds.  Moorish Science, Washitaw, Nuwaubians as well as the Erie "Moundbuliders" and Binay "Tribe" defraud black gullible people and are every bit as fraudulent as the white new agers and European impersonators. I believe that these black sects have as large if not larger following as the white newagers, and now these sects all appear to be merging.

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Re: Moorish Science Temple
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2009, 05:52:18 pm »
It looks to me like the ideas of the Washitaw are back once again, bigger than ever - the same ring - the Richard Kieninger/"World Explorer"-Adventures Unlimited Press/ Ancient American/ NEXUS/ Atlantis Rising group - PM me for my a copy of my history of the roots of this.

Note the "theosophist" roots of the Moorish Science Temple - with that goes a "theosophist" history...



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