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Epiphany

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Re: Harley "Swiftdeer" Reagan, Chuluaqui Quodoushka, Chulukai Quodosha
« Reply #121 on: November 03, 2015, 07:16:11 pm »
The genealogy link I posted earlier does not look to be entirely accurate. Any current descendants of Reagan would need to have professional genealogy work done or at least study up themselves on proper genealogical methods. And definitely always double check any genealogy work I lay out.

Looks like Harley Reagan's maternal grandfather was enrolled, his mother was not.

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Claude Harley Reagan
Texas, Birth Index
Name   Claude Harley Reagan
Event Type   Birth
Event Date   09 Jun 1941
Event Place   Lynn, Texas
Gender   Male
Father's Name   Jno Reagan Reagan
Mother's Name   Ida Mae Raper

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V8WP-8FK

Claude Henry Reagan's parents were Johnny Jefferson Reagan and Ida Mae Raper.

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Name   Ida Mae Raper
Birth Date   11 Apr 1924
Birth Place   Hale Center, Hale
Father   William Harley Raper
Mother   Johnnie Edmond King

(Ancestry.com. Texas, Birth Certificates, 1903-1932 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.
Original data: Texas Department of State Health Services. Texas Birth Certificates, 1903–1932. iArchives, Orem, Utah.)

Ida Mae Raper's father applied for enrollment in the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians of North Carolina. He was accepted, his children were not.

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Cherokee Indian Agency
Cherokee, North Carolina
April 30, 1928

Mr. Harley Raper
Hale Center, Texas

Dear Sir:

You are hereby notified that the Eastern Cherokee Enrolling Commission has decided to recommend your enrollment with the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians of North Carolina under the Act of June 4, 1924. Your children have been rejected on the ground that they were born separate and apart from the Eastern Band of your marriage to a white woman, and they have never had any association with nor recognition by the said Band as members thereof.

(Ancestry.com. U.S., Cherokee Baker Roll and Records, 1924-1929 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.
Original data: The 1928 Baker Roll and Records of the Eastern Cherokee Enrolling Commission, 1924–1929. Microfilm M2104, 69 rolls. Records of the Bureau of Indian Affairs, Record Group 75. The National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.)

William Harley Raper's claim was through his father Barry Bruce Raper/ Berry B.B. Raper, grandfather Alexander Raper, paternal grandmother Catherine McDaniel.

In the 1931 Eastern Cherokee census roll Berry B. B. Raper is listed as 1/4 N.C. Cherokee.

From Berry  B.B. Raper's (Claude Harley Reagan's great grandfather) application:

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I know that my father, his sisters and brothers claimed their relation to the Eastern Band Cherokee Indians, visited them and attended their councils and elections, and it is common history that the older ones, older than I, made contributions to their buying property and making settlements about disputed lines of their lands. I know very little personally execpt by contact, conversations and history.

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I have attended their councils, visited them in person many a time, and after I was grown and married they visited my own home and I visited them. I have twice participated in the distribution of money apportioned to Eastern Band Cherokee.

(same source as above)

In Berry B.B. Raper's application he stated he was 1/8 Eastern Cherokee.


Epiphany

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Re: Harley "Swiftdeer" Reagan, Chuluaqui Quodoushka, Chulukai Quodosha
« Reply #122 on: November 03, 2015, 11:13:12 pm »
Claude Harley Reagan's father is Johnnie Jefferson Reagan, a registered sex offender http://www.homefacts.com/offender-detail/TX00154460/Johnnie-Jefferson-Reagan.html

http://www.texaspredators.com/SexOffender.aspx?oid=14974

1998 disposition, indeceny with a child sexual contact. Victim a 10 year old girl.

Claude Harley Reagan's parents Johnnie Jefferson Reagan and Ida Mae Reagan in 1940 census https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4SM-T6P

Recent public records https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KG1M-79T

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Re: Harley "Swiftdeer" Reagan, Chuluaqui Quodoushka, Chulukai Quodosha
« Reply #123 on: November 04, 2015, 12:08:50 am »
Claude Harley Reagan's (Harley Swiftdeer Reagan) mother's obit http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=120903889&ref=acom

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Re: Harley "Swiftdeer" Reagan, Chuluaqui Quodoushka, Chulukai Quodosha
« Reply #124 on: November 04, 2015, 02:03:33 pm »
This explains quite a bit, since abuse often runs in families. HR often claimed he was "initiated" into sex at age 10 by his "Cherokee grandmother." I don't recall any mention by him of contact between him and any of his family, beyond the Cherokee grandma story. It surprises me both his parents outlived him, and that there's a brother I never heard of who apparently had a big family. I don't recall any children from HR.

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Re: Harley "Swiftdeer" Reagan, Chuluaqui Quodoushka, Chulukai Quodosha
« Reply #125 on: November 04, 2015, 04:52:45 pm »
HR does have three sons from a prior marriage, all born in early 1960s.

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Re: Harley "Swiftdeer" Reagan, Chuluaqui Quodoushka, Chulukai Quodosha
« Reply #126 on: November 04, 2015, 06:06:22 pm »
I don't believe HR had a "Cherokee grandmother" that "initiated" him. His distant ancestry is on his mother's side, this does not include his maternal grandmother.

My guess now is that HR was abused. He then abused many, many others.

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Re: Harley "Swiftdeer" Reagan, Chuluaqui Quodoushka, Chulukai Quodosha
« Reply #127 on: November 04, 2015, 08:45:38 pm »
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File Number:
F00602681

Corporation Name:
DEER TRIBE METIS-MEDICINE SOCIETY

Domestic Address
12201 N. 64TH STREET
SCOTTSDALE, AZ 85254
Foreign Address
CT CORPORATION SYSTEM
818 W 7TH ST
LOS ANGELES, CA 90017

Agent Name:  ROSEMARY DE COURSEY
Agent Mailing Address:
P. O. BOX 12397
SCOTTSDALE, AZ 85267
Agent Physical Address:
12201 N. 64TH STREET
SCOTTSDALE, AZ 85254
Agent Status:  APPOINTED 03/14/2002
Agent Last Updated:  04/11/2002

Entity Type:  NON-PROFIT   Business Type:  RELIGIOUS
Incorporation Date:  1/19/1993   Corporation Life Period:  PERPETUAL
Domicile:  CALIFORNIA   County:  MARICOPA
Approval Date:  1/19/1993   Original Publish Date:  2/2/1993


Name   Title   Address   Date of Taking Office   Last Updated
MATT LORE   CHAIRMAN   
2945 S COUNTRY CLUB WAY
TEMPE, AZ 85282
01/23/2015   05/15/2015
JANICE C HOLMES   SECRETARY   
PO BOX 13771
SCOTTSDALE, AZ 85267
01/23/2015   05/15/2015
BONNIE ZITO   TREASURER   
45305 N 16TH ST
NEW RIVER, AZ 85087
01/23/2015   05/15/2015
INGRID LIEPA   VICE-PRESIDENT   
BOX 172 STN MAIN
KIMBERLY, BC V1A -2Y6
01/23/2015   05/15/2015
Director Information
Name   Title   Address   Date of Taking Office   Last Updated
TIM MCDONALD   DIRECTOR   
5 POPLAR PARK
PLEASANT RIDGE, MI 48069
01/23/2015   05/15/2015
JANNEKA KOOLE   DIRECTOR   
PO BOX 26277
PHOENIX, AZ 85068
01/23/2015   05/15/2015

They are keeping up with their annual reports. The above info from Arizona corporation search http://ecorp.azcc.gov/Details/Corp?corpId=F00602681

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Deer Tribe listing in California corporation search:

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Entity Name:   DEER TRIBE METIS-MEDICINE SOCIETY
Entity Number:   C1367587
Date Filed:   03/07/1986
Status:   ACTIVE
Jurisdiction:   CALIFORNIA
Entity Address:   P. O. BOX 12397
Entity City, State, Zip:   SCOTTSDALE AZ 85267
Agent for Service of Process:   C T CORPORATION SYSTEM
Agent Address:   818 WEST SEVENTH ST STE 930
Agent City, State, Zip:   LOS ANGELES CA 90017

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Assets: $1,414,069
Income: $568,139
Expenses: $591,197
Liabilities: $546,150
Areas Served: Based in Scottsdale, AZ, DTMMS has membership groups in 20 states and 15 countries.
Ruling Year: 1993
Financial information in this report is derived from the organization's 2013 Form 990

http://www2.guidestar.org/ViewPdf.aspx?PdfSource=0&ein=95-4307294

This is an active, busy, international group https://www.dtmms.org/


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Re: Harley "Swiftdeer" Reagan, Chuluaqui Quodoushka, Chulukai Quodosha
« Reply #128 on: November 04, 2015, 08:54:04 pm »
HR's wife Dianne has the Arizona corporation Thunder Strikes Productions Inc.

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15319527   THUNDER STRIKES PRODUCTIONS INC
6044 N MOCKINGBIRD LN
PARADISE VALLEY, AZ 85253

Entity Type:  BUSINESS   
Business Type:  GENERAL CONSULTING
Incorporation Date:  9/1/2009   
Corporation Life Period:  PERPETUAL
Domicile:  ARIZONA   County:  MARICOPA

Dianne Reagan is CEO, Director, Secretary, and Treasurer.

http://ecorp.azcc.gov/Details/Corp?corpId=%2015319527

Deer Tribe Gun Club http://www.thunderstrikes.com/gunclub.htm

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Re: Harley "Swiftdeer" Reagan, Chuluaqui Quodoushka, Chulukai Quodosha
« Reply #129 on: November 07, 2015, 12:57:52 am »
I don't believe HR had a "Cherokee grandmother" that "initiated" him. His distant ancestry is on his mother's side, this does not include his maternal grandmother.

My guess now is that HR was abused. He then abused many, many others.

I didn't mean to give the false impression he actually did have that relative. That's just his offensive claim, trying to use the Cherokee grandma lie to legitimize his abuse, perhaps done both to him and by him.

That he had a family before this makes all he did even more appalling, abandoning that family to become an exploiter and cult leader. When he died, I don't recall any mention of anyone by name in his family mourning him. No one but the second wife Dianne Reagan. And I also recall he once proudly claimed to be a polygamist. Seemingly any additional wives left him.

His memorial website claim 160 people came to the funeral, and a bit under 50 left words of tribute on the site. That seems amazingly small for a cult that claims several thousand members. The cult leaders also stayed in typical character, asking for money for the funeral and to keep the cult going. This from a cult worth almost a million and a half in assets, with several businesses, and with almost a half million in annual income.

Stay classy...

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Re: Harley "Swiftdeer" Reagan, Chuluaqui Quodoushka, Chulukai Quodosha
« Reply #130 on: November 07, 2015, 03:16:50 am »
I actually was not communicating clearly there,  I was thinking out loud in an attempt to regain my bearings in this research, HR and crew are sure disturbing to read up on.

I wonder what HR's will looked like. And if Dianne "Nightbird" Reagan is currently active in the cult machine.