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Offline vikinglady

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"Indian Chief" in Sweden goes to court
« on: April 13, 2005, 08:27:14 am »
Now here are some good news for you:

A guy living in Sweden claiming to be an Indian Chief and Shaman has been sued. The guy has for many years offered "spiritual workshops" which included "sex-therapy" for children as young as 12.
The list the newspapers presented today of children and women who have been molested and what he has done to them is sickening!!! I *think* this might be Harley´s crowd. At least this is in the same district where they hang out.

The "Chief´s" girlfriend says this is a very common ritual among the Indians - "He did the same thing to me when we met!", she says.  (!!!)

The Chief´s lawyer is claiming that it is down to different cultures and that we don´t understand the way Indians live (Yeah, I know, it is bucket-time!)

Anyway, I will contact the paper and see if we can get them to cover your visit, Al ! This is an excellent opportunity!

Lots of things happening over here all of a sudden -exploiters closing down, plastic shamans getting sued...wow, what´s going on....??!  :))

Annika


Offline Barnaby_McEwan

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Re: "Indian Chief" in Sweden goes to cou
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2005, 08:53:17 am »
Stomach-churning. Can we read about this case anywhere online in English? Not that I'm looking forward to reading about it.

Offline vikinglady

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Re: "Indian Chief" in Sweden goes to cou
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2005, 09:35:14 am »
http://www.expressen.se/expressen/jsp/polopoly.jsp?a=268468

Go ahead, Barnaby! Get your dictionary out! LOL
I can help you with the first word: "Indianhövding" means "Indian Chief". And "sexterapi" means...guess what....

No, seriously, I can translate it to English and keep you all updated if you want to. Maybe it could be good  to know for the forthcoming tour, too.

I´ll be back!

Annika

Offline Barnaby_McEwan

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Re: "Indian Chief" in Sweden goes to cou
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2005, 10:02:34 am »
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I can translate it to English and keep you all updated if you want to. Maybe it could be good  to know for the forthcoming tour, too.


Please do. This seems like the kind of thing that's still going to be in people's minds when Al's speaking in Sweden. Here's another way to see the story: pages 1, 8, 9.

http://www.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/thumbnailsview.aspx?issue=32192005041300000000001001

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Offline vikinglady

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Re: "Indian Chief" in Sweden goes to cou
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2005, 03:03:55 pm »
This story is on the frontpage of all the newspapers here. Doesn´t look good, though: "Indian Chief rapes young girls!" Oh well, it might start a discussion of this issue. I am sure going to try to get an article in to some paper.

Here is a quick translation of one of the articles. I put it on our website to save some space in here but I didn´t include the list of the victims and what he did to them. It was absolutely sickening to read!

http://www.world-foundation.nu/assault.htm

Annika

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Re: "Indian Chief" in Sweden goes to cou
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2005, 04:48:24 pm »
That is just sickening. And his girlfriend, what a nutbar. What would possess a parent to think their 12 year old child needed "sex therapy"?? It's crap like this that makes people think all Indians are bad. :(  If he is tied to Harley Reagan's group, maybe this can be used to expose these perverts.

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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2005, 05:07:47 pm »
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This story is on the frontpage of all the newspapers here.


I guess he will be deported back to the US after his sentence is over. What's his name? I want to know where the scumbag ends up, if he survives prison.

Offline vikinglady

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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2005, 05:24:49 pm »
Yeah, it is absolutely sickening but actually, I welcome this debate! I have tried so many times to get other people aware of the problems but noone cares. Maybe they will now. And it couldn´t have happened at a better time, just before Al is coming here!

I have written to the papers informing them about that this is *not* in any way an "Indian tradition" and asked them if they would let me write an article. So keep your fingers crossed.

No, this sicko is not going to be deported, Barnaby. He is married to a Swedish woman and has a child. He can legally stay here. We´ll never get rid of him...:(

And papers here never publish the names of any convicted persons unless you´ve killed a politician or something like that...

Wonder if he is, in fact, indian at all.....?

Annika

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Re: "Indian Chief" in Sweden goes to cou
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2005, 06:28:47 pm »
The mention of martial arts and sex healing sure sounds like Switftdick's group. He's no NDN, there's not a single Native in all of Harley's cult that I've ever heard of.

Annika, please let  any reporters you contact know that I'd be glad to speak with them, not just when I get there, but right now too. You can pass along both my email and my phone number.

You could also pass along these links to the reporters. A medicine man who even chased after lots of women wouldn't be respected, much less a child abuser.

An expose of the Deer Tribe cult.
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2002-06-13/news/feature.html

A discussion with one of the cult followers where his beliefs were debunked by over a dozen NDN professors and activists.
http://www.bluecorncomics.com/kinkysex.htm

Offline vikinglady

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Re: "Indian Chief" in Sweden goes to cou
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2005, 06:49:51 pm »
"Annika, please let ? any reporters you contact know that I'd be glad to speak with them, not just when I get there, but right now too. You can pass along both my email and my phone number."


I already did...well, not your phone number but I asked if they would let you write an article on this issue.  I´ll wait a couple of days and see if they come back to me, if not I´ll phone them.

Annika

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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2005, 07:05:54 pm »
Oh, forgot: Al, you´re booked with a New Age group some miles from where this "Chief" had his courses.

This could be interesting...:)

Annika

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Re: "Indian Chief" in Sweden goes to cou
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2005, 10:15:30 pm »
Today´s paper:

By pretending to be an Indian Chief and  shaman – and tell people he had magical powers – the man of 50 has fooled a great number of young girls into giving them ???sextherapy???. He is sued for assult on 11 young women.

The youngest one was only 12. Today she is 15 and it was only some months ago she dared to tell the truth.
- I never had a clue, says her father. It took a month before I really understood it fully, that he has actually molested my daughter. Many of these young girls are friends of our family, they feel very bad today. Some are severely depressed.

He has known the “shaman??? since he came to Sweden in 1999.
- I thought I knew him but he is like two different persons.
He says that the guy in no way is a son of an Indian Chief.
- I know his family very well. His dad is a busdriver in Argentina!

A young girl who doesn´t want to mention her age fearing people will know who she is tells our reporter through a friend:
- He explained that there are special points on the body, by putting pressure on them he could release tensions so that we could reach a special kind of spirituality in another dimension. Some of those points were in the lower abdomen…. You were supposed to let go of all the guilt and shame. I trusted him!

She went to the man for several years for therapy.
- When I finally woke up and realized what he was doing I felt like I had been raped. I have no words to tell you how bad I feel. It is disgusting!

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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2005, 03:22:52 pm »
I feel embarassed I didn't bring this up before.  If the Deer Tribe cult is molesting children in Sweden, there's all too likely places it's going on elsewhere. And these kids and their parents need to be warned. At the very least the Deer Tribe should be embarassed into making a public disavowal.

I'm contacting the Phoenix New Times, the paper that did the best expose of Swiftdick, and urging them to do a follow up.

I'm also going to pass along the links to Child Protective Services in AZ and urge them to take a look and make sure no kids are being abused. Also urge the anti child pornography activists to take a look at the Deer Tribe. Swiftdick's people used to make and sell home made porn as "educational material."

And I urge everyone else with any time or outrage at these sick ones to do the same.

Offline vikinglady

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Re: "Indian Chief" in Sweden goes to cou
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2005, 04:42:15 pm »
There is no way to know if this was actually the Deer Tribe. It *could* have been a nutcase doing his own thing....

Nevertheless, warnings are always called for.

I put up a warning on the Index page of our website straight away. It´s still up there. I´m working on one in English, too....

Some people here tried to sue the newspaper for claiming this guy was "an Indian chief", giving NDN:s a bad name. It didn´t work but it was sure a good try!

Annika

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Re: "Indian Chief" in Sweden goes to cou
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2005, 06:24:18 pm »
I am at someone else's computer ( I am away from home for a few days) but had to make a reply. I also have been turning ol Harley the perv in to the groups that expose fake veterans. So far, at least 2 sites are putting his name up on the web. :)