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Offline Wojciech Jozwiak

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Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« on: February 10, 2008, 10:43:35 am »
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Offline earthw7

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2008, 12:26:47 am »
NO,
There is NO white man who has that right
In Spirit

Offline Wojciech Jozwiak

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2008, 07:52:18 am »
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Offline Freija

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2008, 12:54:11 pm »
Hey Milanowek, I´m from just across the bay - from Sweden.

I have invited many Natives over here to speak, and I´ve never ever seen one of them in buckskin and headband....like this guy. It´s a show for the audience, nothing else.

"Lakota Tradition Keeper with the fourth degree of initiation" Ha ha ha! Sounds more like martial arts. Please don´t buy in to these things, they are not for real. Any person charging for spiritual workshops and boasting about his "initiations" - red alert!!

I think Earth expressed it pretty clearly. Check out her thread about adoptions, too
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1294.0   

Good luck with everything!


Offline Barnaby_McEwan

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2008, 01:01:47 pm »
Your website is very...interesting, Wojciech. Could you explain this, please?

http://www.taraka.pl/index.php?id=sofar.htm

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June 1999...we completed all the activities that became a standard for the subsequent workshops: shamanic journeys with the drum, breathing, voice and visualization exercises, intestinal cleansing, Indian sweat lodge...

July 1999...We had as many as three sessions in the sweat lodge, developing the technique...

...around 2nd February 2000...I admire myself for the ability to find stones, necessary for the sweat lodge, under the snow!

summer solstice 2000...Activities: intestinal cleansing, drum journeys, drum playing, Indian sweat lodge and fire walking, and a few of us did also carried out burial in the earth. The workshop was strictly of an open-air character, without shelter in buildings. For the first time I had a teepee...

September 2002...Deep experiences in the sweat lodge: its effects, cleansing and relieving of the psyche, could be strongly felt.

Offline Wojciech Jozwiak

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2008, 05:57:33 pm »
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Offline epablito

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2008, 08:49:38 pm »
Hello everyone,

Your website is very...interesting, Wojciech. Could you explain this, please?

I've read this topic mostly because of "Woliczko's workshops" case, which seems to be (am I wrong?) an obvious fraud.

On the other hand I took a part in Wojciech's workshops a few years ago. You shouldn't be, under any circumstances, worried about Wojciech's "sweat lodge". Wojciech's never claimed to be a native Indian tradition teacher or to have a special permission/mission/teachings from native Indians.

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Pawel

Offline earthw7

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2008, 10:06:21 pm »
Dear 'earthw7' and All,
I have some more questions.
Indian name of Woliczko was spelled in some Internet places as „Matko Eyanka??? or „Matho Eyanka???. Have the words any sense in Lakota language?
Woliczko’s impressario wrote that he spent 20 years as a doctor in Lakota reservation named „Chemainus??? (or similarly - I foud 4 spellins of the name) in Canada. Are there any Lakota territories in Canada?
There is a township Chemainus at Vancover Island B.C., Canada, but do live any Lakota there?
I read that Woliczko is „Lakota Tradition Keeper with the fourth degree of initiation???. My question: are there any formal „ranks??? or „degrees of initiation??? among Lakota people? Are Lakota structurized like free-masonry?
Woliczko said as follows (his Polish interview is here: http://www.maya.net.pl/opinie.php?LANG=pl&sub=listy&title=1&count=99&od=24)
„I was adopted to the Lakota tribe by my teacher Gray Bear in Standing Rock Reservation. I became, in practice, a member of that reservation...??? I need any comment to this.
A photo from a seminar:

I would like to check if Woliczko is a reliable teacher.


Which Gray Bear taught him Raymond Gray Bear? These Gray Bears are not Lakota but Dakota. Many are from the Fort Totten rez which is dakota. Whatever this person has no right just because he was adopted the only thing he allowed to do is care for his relatives.
Mato Eyanka is Running Bear
We do not have Lakota Tradition Keeper with the fourth degree of initiation in any of our beliefs.
Yes, we do have Lakota in Canada but they are refugee in Canada and do not have their own reserve there. None in Vancover Island B.C unless one moved there.
In Spirit

Offline earthw7

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2008, 10:06:52 pm »
Oh and you don't have the right for a sweat lodge
In Spirit

Offline Wojciech Jozwiak

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2008, 10:29:08 pm »
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Offline Freija

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2008, 11:02:19 pm »
I think Earth is talking about what is on your website:

"Despite the short time and unfavourable weather (rainy and cold), we completed all the activities that became a standard for the subsequent workshops: shamanic journeys with the drum, breathing, voice and visualization exercises, intestinal cleansing, Indian sweat lodge, fire walking, burial in the earth. I buried myself for the first time then. [See more...]"

I think she might be talking about the fact that no non-Natives are allowed to run a sweatlodge.
Oh well, she´ll explain....I´m sure.....


Offline LittleOldMan

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2008, 11:30:44 pm »
To the best of my knowledge there is no connection between Masonry and Lakota ceremony.  There are many Native American Masons however.  I have sat in lodge with several.  In OK there are even lodges where The Native Language is spoken rather than English or so I have heard.  Historically Freemasonry is of European origin.  "LittleOldMan"   
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Offline Wojciech Jozwiak

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2008, 08:22:46 am »
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Offline Wojciech Jozwiak

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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2008, 09:08:13 am »
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Re: Przemyslaw Woliczko alias Matho Eyanka
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2008, 11:23:36 am »
And I suggest you have just figured out that you've been busted.  Your site says twice that you run "Indian sweat lodges."  When told you have no right to do this, you claim you're really doing a nice European sauna and decide that Freija has, in making clear to you the error of your ways, somehow legitimized them.  Then you say you want this whole thread to disappear because some "opinions" that are already on-line might be seen on-line.

I'm not a moderator, and I don't tell them how to run this forum, but I have a feeling this thread, with its proof of the illegitimacy of both your and Mr. Woliczko's fraudulent practices and "opinions," is going to remain very public. 

In other words, "Stop, Mr Jozwiak, you have no right to do it."