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Offline educatedindian

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A Chance to Take Down Harley Reagan
« on: September 17, 2007, 07:24:31 pm »
http://www.counterpunch.org/levy09172007.html

"The FBI receives nearly eight hundred tips a year regarding fake vets. Congress passed the Stolen Valor Act in 2005.  The new law makes it a crime to "falsely represent oneself as having been awarded any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces or any of the service medals or badges."

Reagan lives in Scottsdale. This falls under the FBI office in Phoenix.
http://phoenix.fbi.gov/
201 E. Indianola
Phoenix, AZ 85012
Telephone:
602-279-5511

>>>phoenix@ic.fbi.gov

And this website debunks his lies about being awarded medals. He's guilty of two federal counts for his lying about receiving medals.

In the first one, he lies about receiving the Bronze Star.

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50839
"On 1 June 1959, he joined the United States Marine Corps. The Marines send him to Boot Camp in San Diego after which he did four tours in Vietnam starting in 1960. His first combat was in Taiwan against communist guerrillas. Now if you were reading carefully you noticed that Reagan claims that his first taste of action was not in Vietnam but in Taiwan. Reagan’s authorized biographer writes that in 1960 Reagan first saw combat while battling communist forces over control of a Taiwanese village. During the battle, Reagan uncovered this grisly scene, “Someone had taken a pregnant Taiwanese woman, thirteen of fourteen years of age, and stripped her nude. They had stuck a sharpened stake in the ground and then shoved that stake up through her vaginal passage, all the way up through her bowels, and out the top of her head. The front of her was sliced open from chest to crotch, the child taken out and rammed down on the point of the stake at the top of her head. The cord was still connected.??? In response to this atrocity, Reagan charged out of the tent and promptly machined gunned four “gook??? prisoners and assaulted a Taiwanese officer that tried to stop him. While not killing prisoners, Reagan found time to take a communist held strong point and earn a Bronze Star.

However, there was no communist insurgency in Taiwan in the early 1960s. Therefore, Reagan could not have been involved anything that approaches the level of carnage portrayed in his biography. Usually you need a war to have a war story…"

Another fake story, this one about the Vietnam War, from the same link, where he lies about receiving the Silver Star.

"The Battle of Bloody Heart/Operation Raincoat (spring 1967)

In the spring of 1967 during Reagan’s fourth tour of duty in Vietnam, he claims that he earned a Silver Star and at least one Purple Heart in an engagement he calls The Battle of Bloody Heart. Reagan states that a U.S. force of 270 solders was given the mission of attacking a communist held village that controlled a strategically important bridge. The task force was comprised of Marines, Navy Seals, and Army Special Forces. Also involved was a company of South Vietnamese Regulars and a small group of Laotian Natives troops. However, a battalion and a half of North Vietnamese Regulars ambushed the American/allied forces. In the ensuing battle, the fighting was so fierce that only seventeen American solders survived. In addition, the NVA whipped out an entire Navy Seal team sent down the river to secure the bridge. Of the survivors, three Congressional Medals of Honor were awarded, one Legion of Merit, five Silver Stars, and every other survivor received the Bronze Star. The North Vietnamese wounded Harley Reagan three times and he received the Silver Star for his actions that day.

One would assume that such a bloody battle, a battle in which a handful of tough marines survived a hopeless situation, a battle in which three solders earned the CMA, would be recorded in the pages of history. But you would be wrong. I could turn up no record of “The Battle of Bloody Heart.??? After an extensive search, I did find one reference to an Operation Raincoat. However, this operation did not occur during the Vietnam War. In fact, Operation Raincoat was a battle in World War II. It occurred in Italy in late 1942 early 1943.

Therefore, it appears that the major battles in which Reagan received his awards are nothing more than the product of Reagan’s overactive imagination."

In fact Reagan was never a Marine AT ALL.

"To help clear up matters I contacted Dr Richard Allen. Dr Allen has handled complaints for the Cherokee Nation about Harley “Swiftdeer??? Reagan for more than a decade. He stated that the Marine Military Awards Branch had no record of ever awarding a Harley Reagan any commendations. I then contacted Mr. Jarrett an archivist at the National Personal Records Center (Military and Personal Records) about Harley Reagan’s military service. He informed me that they had no military record pertaining to a Harley Reagan. Upon further request, Mr. Jarrett ran a search with the Federal Bureau of Investigations. The FBI turned up no record that Harley Reagan ever served in the military; to say nothing of active military service in Vietnam, multiple medals, or lengthy hospitals stays at Bethesda Naval Hospital."

The site also debunked all of his martial arts claims.

"According to Reagan, he represented the United States in the 1964 Olympic Games as an alternate on the Judo team. Supposedly, he competed and placed fourth. However, a quick check of [Only Registered Users Can See Links.Click Here to Register for free] proves that Harley Reagan was not on the 1964 US Judo Team.

Keep in mind that according to his war stories, he spent 1964 in Vietnam.

Regan also claims that he received his Judo promotions, 2nd, 3rd and 4th degree Black Belts, directly through the United States Judo Association and the United States Judo Federation.

I wrote to both organizations to check the validity of these claims. The USJF stated that Harley Reagan has not received any promotions through their organization. The USJA told me that they do have a record of Harley Reagan who achieved the rank of Shodan in October of 1970. However, they have no record of him achieving a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th, degree Black Belt in their organization.

Therefore, the information provided by the USJA and the USJF conflict with the claims made by Reagan.

Military Hand-to-Hand Combat Teacher

According to Reagan, between fighting communists in Taiwan, and falling out of helicopters, he found time to teach hand-to-hand combat for the United States Marine Corps. However, since the FBI and the National Personal Records Center have no record of a Harley Reagan then it is highly doubtful that he taught hand-to-hand combat for the armed forces

Jiu-Jitsu Champion 1967 – 1970

Oh, what a tangled web we weave…

At this point, his own lies begin to trip him up. Reagan’s website states that he was a World Jiu Jitsu Champion from 1967 to 1970, but Reagan’s authorized biography states that Reagan spent 14 June 1967 to 21 July 1967 in a comatose state after falling 300 feet from an exploding helicopter. Moreover, according to his own biography, Reagan was released from Bethesda Naval Hospital in March of 1968. Therefore, Reagan’s stories begin to contradict each other. Either he was in the hospital recovering from wounds received in Vietnam or competing in Jiu Jitsu, he could not be doing both."

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Re: A Chance to Take Down Harley Reagan
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2007, 10:17:13 pm »
He has been noted as a military fraud in 2005, http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies1082.htm      You have to scroll all the way down near the end.  On one site he says he was discharged from the Marines as he opposed the war in Vietnam. He, on another site claims his forth tour in 1967, which would have had to start in 1963. And I don't believe the Marines were sent in until 1965. Before that it was Special Forces and CIA as advisors. The only thing I remember happening in Taiwan in 1959 was some Chinese National were taken to Taiwan by U.S. ships from Hong Kong under the cover of night. Claims to have been kicked out of the Air Force Academy then became a Gunnery Sargent in the Marines. Also claims "black ops".
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