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Title: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: loudcrow on April 21, 2013, 01:08:36 am
More on Veronica Lozen Brown Bear: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ghost-Talkers-Paranormal-Team/193958680650982?sk=info

"In addition to the traditional ways taught by my family, I am a practitioner of other modalities, Rosicrucian, Mystical Anatomy, Dream wisdom keeper, adept Reiki, Universal laws, voodoo, hoodoo, Santeria, Wicca, dowsing, Hinduism, feng shui, ceremonies and rituals, herbology, stoneology, mythology, astrology and more if only to list a few..."

Oh brother. Time for me to go grab my boots and shovel.


Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: educatedindian on April 21, 2013, 12:56:06 pm
Split this from the Grey Wolf & Tonya thread. Here's the portion of the post Ingeborg made on LBB.

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Another site recommended by Tanja Billington:

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My Spirit Sister Lozen Brown Bear and her beautiful craft:
http://anonym.to?http://www.dreamspirit.com/
When you look at the site, „Lozen Brown Bear“ is selling ndn craft without imprint and without proof she is enrolled. LBB claims Apache, but no band, no family names are specified and the „about me“ section of that site has no contents.

LBB also does „Tarot & Spiritual Readings“. Among the items she sells are: medicine bags, medicine wheels, Apache dream catchers, smudge sprays, goddess sprays, smudge fans, talk sticks.

LBB has a profile at linkedin:

http://anonym.to?http://www.linkedin.com/pub/lozen-brownbear/27/9b/61a


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Lozen BrownBear
Founder and owner of Dream Spirits, Teaching and Sharing Native American Spiritual experience
Location
Greater Chicago Area
http://anonym.to?http://www.dreamspirits.com/
September 1992 – Present (20 years 8 months)
Owned by Lozen Brown Bear, Native American Artist.
Since 1992... Lozen often has provided lectures and workshops to help understand the Spiritual connection to the art. As it is more then art to her.

The lady seems to have three problems: a) truth, b) spelling, c) making an honest dollar.

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Lozen was an extremely honored woman among the Apache, a Chiricahua who fought alongside Geronimo. But there's nothing remotely Apache in what she teaches or claims to be an expert in.

Those items she makes, except for medicine bags, not Apache. Med wheels and dreamcatchers are Plains NDN.

"Goddess sprays?" Sounds like the world's silliest deodorant.

And stoneology sounds like a Cheech and Chong joke.

Claiming to be an expert healer in over a dozen traditions is like claiming to be a doctor with a dozen specializations.
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 21, 2013, 04:37:00 pm
Also goes by Lozen Brownbear Salter.
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 21, 2013, 05:46:59 pm
https://soundcloud.com/eagle-thunder71/lozen-brownbear-find-your#play (https://soundcloud.com/eagle-thunder71/lozen-brownbear-find-your#play) Find Your Animal Guide Meditation Intro - she ends this bit with "Aho".

Photo: "I'm Lozen Brown Bear & this is My Mother Mama Little Wolf. "

http://www.angelfire.com/bc2/DreamSpirits2/lozenandmama.html (http://www.angelfire.com/bc2/DreamSpirits2/lozenandmama.html)

Wonder if this is the same "Mama Little Wolf":

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Join us for the 3rd annual Blessing of the Animals Ceremony from the Mescalero Apache lineage of teacher and ceremonial leader, Billie Topa Tate of MSI and her wonderful mother, Mama Little Wolf.

http://www.kindspiritshealing.com/THE-BLESSING-OF-THE-ANIMALS-CEREMONY-2012.html (http://www.kindspiritshealing.com/THE-BLESSING-OF-THE-ANIMALS-CEREMONY-2012.html)

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Lozen Brown Bear is a full blood Apache spiritualist and teacher. Her mother is Mescalero Apache and her father is white mountain Apache.

http://eaglethunderbear.blogspot.com/p/biography.html (http://eaglethunderbear.blogspot.com/p/biography.html)


"Lozen Brownbear Salter - Video dedicated to our mother "Mama Little Wolf" and to all of you." http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1271226872603&comments (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1271226872603&comments)
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 21, 2013, 09:51:07 pm
I think this is a family, don't know for sure if by birth or choice:

Mama Little Wolf, who has possibly passed on (Update: this assumption is likely incorrect)

Billie Topa Tate http://msi-healing.com/our-story/billie-topa-tate (http://msi-healing.com/our-story/billie-topa-tate) Bertha Billie Leiser

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Billie is a traditional Native American healer and teacher of Mescalero Apache descent, trained and educated by numerous family Elders and extended family members. She is a Reiki Master Teacher Eighth Degree and licensed therapeutic massage therapist.

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Apache Divination Cards
This is a First Time event - Billie will be sharing her newly designed Apache Divination Cards - each Sedona retreat member will pick a card for their Sedona experience

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=376154515830535&id=148788861900436 (http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=376154515830535&id=148788861900436)

Monique Leiser: Monique Little Doll, Billie's daughter, active in family store and now in her mother's Mystical Sciences Institue

Mona Little Owl: "Mona Little Owl, our little sister, just like to sing, so she helped with the back vocals", also a member of that Ghost Talkers Paranormal Team https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ghost-Talkers-Paranormal-Team/193958680650982?sk=info (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ghost-Talkers-Paranormal-Team/193958680650982?sk=info)

Vince Raven Eagle: "Vince Raven Eagle my brother played his guitar", also on Ghost Talkers Paranormal Team

Lozen Brownbear Salter http://www.dreamspirits.com/ (http://www.dreamspirits.com/)
http://www.myspace.com/apachewinds2008 (http://www.myspace.com/apachewinds2008)
http://www.etsy.com/people/lozenbear (http://www.etsy.com/people/lozenbear)

About Lozen:

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The chance for us mere mortals to catch her lectures and classes here in the UK is not possible sadly as she is not permitted to practice her spiritulity under UK law.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110123104608/http://www.apachespirits.co.uk/ApacheSpirits.co.uk/native_american_art.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20110123104608/http://www.apachespirits.co.uk/ApacheSpirits.co.uk/native_american_art.html)

Jaimie Herrera, brother, artist who sold through family store "my brother Jaimie Little Wolf"

Ofelia Miller, sister, artist who sold through family store

Don't know the family surname. If this is all a birth family the family surname may then be Herrera.

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Family members exult in talking about their Native American heritage, which they trace maternally through Texas back to New Mexico


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-01-09/features/9401090053_1_native-americans-dream-shop (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-01-09/features/9401090053_1_native-americans-dream-shop)



Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Defend the Sacred on April 21, 2013, 10:15:51 pm

http://web.archive.org/web/20110123104608/http://www.apachespirits.co.uk/ApacheSpirits.co.uk/native_american_art.html

About Lozen:

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The chance for us mere mortals to catch her lectures and classes here in the UK is not possible sadly as she is not permitted to practice her spiritulity under UK law.


Whuh?!   :o
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Ingeborg on April 21, 2013, 10:38:52 pm

http://web.archive.org/web/20110123104608/http://www.apachespirits.co.uk/ApacheSpirits.co.uk/native_american_art.html

About Lozen:

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The chance for us mere mortals to catch her lectures and classes here in the UK is not possible sadly as she is not permitted to practice her spiritulity under UK law.


Whuh?!   :o

Translation from Nuage speak:

"Sh!t, I can't afford the §%$& plane ticket!"


 ;D
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: loudcrow on April 22, 2013, 02:13:43 pm
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=376154515830535&id=148788861900436

Sedona Retreat August 17 - 22 with Billie Topa Tate. Experience a Wonderful Sacred Time. enjoy our videos of our Sedona Retreat

here are a few wonderful things we will be doing together

Apache Divination Cards
This is a First Time ev...ent - Billie will be sharing her newly designed Apache Divination Cards - each Sedona retreat member will pick a card for their Sedona experience

Sacred Sedona Rattle
Make a Beautiful Sacred Rattle from items collected during our Sedona Retreat. Billie & Mama Little Wolf will provide instruction on how to do this in a honoring and sacred way. we will do this in the sacred areas of Sedona

Shamanic Sacred Journey with Adam Yellow Bird
a beautiful shamanic song and drumming experience will take you on a spirit journey to connect with a sacred land

Sweat Lodge
called the Inipi Ceremony, one of the most important Native rituals and will be facilitated by Adam Yellow Bird

Medicine Wheel Ceremony
this is a beautiful place to experience a deep connection with Native Healing Energy

come with us and re-connect with a beautiful place in your heart and spirit and so much more. visit our website to register with a friend - its good karma
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: loudcrow on April 22, 2013, 02:15:39 pm
http://msi-healing.com/retreats
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: earthw7 on April 22, 2013, 02:50:27 pm
I dont want to speak of the dead but.....
Why did she go by a Lakota name and not Apache?
Topa Tate-Four Wind is Lakota!
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 22, 2013, 03:27:53 pm
I dont want to speak of the dead but.....
Why did she go by a Lakota name and not Apache?
Topa Tate-Four Wind is Lakota!

She also does Buddhist ceremonies. Lots of mish mash Nuage.

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Wesak Ceremony is an important inner plane ceremony for all spiritual initiates as it is the time when Lord Buddha dispenses the highest amount of light to the Earth and to all who wish to serve as love light workers on earth. Wesak Ceremony is held each year on the full moon, when the sun is in Taurus and Moon is in Scorpio. Prior to the exact time when the moon becomes full, spiritual initiates gather in the presence of the Enlightened Masters to receive the highest dispensations of the light from Buddha, which is dispensed into the Earth’s body via the Wesak Valley in the Himalayas. Joins us in celebration and ceremony in honor of Buddha.

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.DAY 2: Building the Sweat LodgeDAY 3: Sweat Lodge is probably the most important Native Ritual. The “inipi” or “sweat lodge” usually occurs before and after every other major rituals like the “Sundance” and “Vision Quest”. It is also a “stand alone” ritual meaning that it occurs whenever it is needed. Its original purpose was to cleanse or purify individuals.


Billie Topa Tate = Bertha Billie Leiser. Her daughter Monique Leiser is also active in this Nuage family group.

In this photo with Billie, is this Adam DeArmon?

Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 22, 2013, 04:09:46 pm
Here is the family in 1994, looks like original surname is Herrera:

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Visiting Southwest Trading Post Can Be An Education
January 09, 1994|By Jodie Jacobs. Special to the Tribune.

Chants and drums, graceful Navajo pottery and a hand-carved bench welcome visitors outside, while an Apache family greets people inside.

The sounds and sights say New Mexico, Arizona, Oklahoma, but the Southwest Trading Post, a showcase of Native American crafts, has set up its protective totem poles and dream catchers in Highwood.

And if you're not sure what a dream catcher is, just ask Highland Park owner Billie Leiser or any of her family who help run the store.

Brother Jaimie Herrera of Highwood carves the wooden benches and decorative hanging display cases to order. The decorative prairie pillows are a specialty of sister Ofelia Miller of Chicago. Leiser's daughter Monique, 12, also pitches in.

"She enjoys helping customers. And she's a fast learner," Miller said. "Someday we hope to turn the shop and our traditions over to the children."

Tradition: That is what this shop is all about. With a nod toward today's environmental concerns, Lesier explained that Native Americans have always lived harmoniously with nature.

And she used the dream catcher as an example. Yes, it is supposed to catch children's bad dreams and let the good ones through. But pointing to the circle of willow framing the dream catcher, Leiser told how it was cut from the tree at an angle. "That way it won't hurt the tree. That's the way we were taught-to live with nature, not hurt it," she said.

Family members exult in talking about their Native American heritage, which they trace maternally through Texas back to New Mexico. "When we sell a piece, we like to give information about its symbolism, where it came from, the artist," Leiser said. She added, "When we get pieces, we sit down with the artist so we can explain the piece."

Items range from 50-cent pine cones and $3.99 healing beads to $400 pottery and $900 paintings.

"We think our prices are good. We're not trying to get top price, just a fair price for the artists," Leiser said.

"This is all part of somebody's heritage," she said gesturing toward the culture-filled shop.

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Southwest Trading Post, at 318 Green Bay Rd. in Highwood, is open from noon to 10 p.m. Monday through Friday, 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. Saturday and 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Sunday. Call 708-433-5767 or 800-870-9269.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-01-09/features/9401090053_1_native-americans-dream-shop (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-01-09/features/9401090053_1_native-americans-dream-shop)

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Will keep this family post updated http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4060.msg34234#msg34234
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 22, 2013, 08:02:35 pm
So this looks to be three generations of a family that progressed through selling crafts, spiritualism, ceremony. All trading on claimed Mescalero Apache heritage.

The one with the most active polished web and workshop presence is Billie.

Interesting claim Billie makes here:

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Billie has written and lectured extensively for more than 10 years. With the expressed permission from her Native culture, Billie shares many of the ancestral principles, healing systems and native wisdoms with her students and clients.

http://www.amta-il.org/_Library/Conference11/Conference_brochure2011.pdf (http://www.amta-il.org/_Library/Conference11/Conference_brochure2011.pdf)

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Later in the morning a wonderful group of souls from Chicago came. They are students of the Mystical Sciences Institute (MSI) and their leader is a native American, Billie Topa Tape. They are staying on Kauai for a retreat/conference on mantras, mudras and health therapies. Many met Gurudeva on his recent stop in Chicago and are reading his books and subscribe to Hinduism Today. Today they came to the monastery for puja and a meditation in the temple and a long nature walk on the San Marga land.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100209201004/http://himalayanacademy.com/taka/past/2000/October/October_24_2000/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20100209201004/http://himalayanacademy.com/taka/past/2000/October/October_24_2000/)

Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: educatedindian on April 22, 2013, 08:14:25 pm

http://web.archive.org/web/20110123104608/http://www.apachespirits.co.uk/ApacheSpirits.co.uk/native_american_art.html

About Lozen:

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The chance for us mere mortals to catch her lectures and classes here in the UK is not possible sadly as she is not permitted to practice her spiritulity under UK law.


Whuh?!   :o

Translation from Nuage speak:

"Sh!t, I can't afford the §%$& plane ticket!"


I think she's probably talking about that British law saying fortune tellers and supposed psychics can be prosecuted for fraud.

The idea that being psychic is part of Apache tradition is more BS from her. There were Apache people who had visions of the future, but it wasn't something you can call up on demand. It happened and caught the person by surprise, coming whether you wanted it or not, and might only happen once in a lifetime. And it sure as hell wasn't something to make money off. And some medicine people could see far away, but again, not something you abuse for petty profit.

I had an encounter with the mother Billie TT some time back, when NAFPS was just starting out. I had the emails on an old account that was hacked and deleted by one of our early harasser, so this is all from memory as best I can recall.

She had a Nuage shop in Chicago. I emailed her, asking what she taught. She gave me the same laundry list of Nuage nonsense. I emailed back asking why she did that, what she knew of Mescalero tradition, doesn't she k now it's wrong etc. There was a brief answer sayign she was an artist, it's all in the name of peace, the usual cliches. I tried explaining again and got no answer. I even tried going up to Chicago (I was at Purdue at the time) but her shop had gone.

I think the family could be Mescalero, but I'm not sure. Herrera is a common name, most Mescalero names are Hispanic. Leiser and Salter and Topa Tate sure aren't, they must be married names except for the last.

But the family doesn't know anything or doesn't care about anything but the Nuage nonsense, or pan NDN crafts like dreamcatchers. (Even those, damn that's ugly. Dayglo psychedelic colors like some hippie would make.) When she calls them Apache dreamcatchers, no such thing, other than they are dreamcatchers made by an Apache family. The fans don't look half bad, but the rest they teach is so much Nuage. I doubt you could make much money off blessing mescal pits in Chicago, or kinaalda which is only for young girls. So they take a grab bag and sell it to the gullible. So sad when frauds pass fraud down as "family tradition." Reminds me of the Pope family.

It is strange she died so young. I don't think she was much older than me, maybe in her early 50s. Has anyone seen an obituary mentioning a cause of death?
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 22, 2013, 08:46:01 pm

It is strange she died so young. I don't think she was much older than me, maybe in her early 50s. Has anyone seen an obituary mentioning a cause of death?

Billie is still alive, recently had a 60th birthday. Her mother "Mama Little Wolf" recently passed on.

Edit: I might be wrong about thinking a family member has passed on. Haven't found any obituaries, and the tribute video doesn't state anything explicitly.
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 22, 2013, 09:00:07 pm
So far haven't found any obituaries, don't know actual name of matriarch "Mama Little Wolf".

Photo, Sept 2012:

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This photo was taken by Monique little doll just before her mother Billie Topa Tate started the Blue Moon Ceremony. There are three generations here from the Mescalero Apache women ... Mama Little Wolf, Billie Topa Tate and Monique Little Doll

http://www.facebook.com/pages/MSI-Wellness-Center/148788861900436 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/MSI-Wellness-Center/148788861900436)




Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 22, 2013, 09:13:11 pm
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1271226872603 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1271226872603) Tribute video for Mama Little Eagle, shows some of the family including Lozen.

I've been assuming one family member has passed, but just realized I don't know that for certain.

For Billie Topa Tate's birthday you can give her "BIRTHDAY DONATION $1500 for a Special Request from Billie Topa Tate" http://msi-healing.com/product/birthday-donation-1500-or-more-for-a-special-request-from-billie-topa-tate (http://msi-healing.com/product/birthday-donation-1500-or-more-for-a-special-request-from-billie-topa-tate)
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 22, 2013, 09:21:55 pm
Billie and her mother "Mama Little Wolf" photo

http://www.angelfire.com/bc2/DreamSpirits2/grandopening_pic.html (http://www.angelfire.com/bc2/DreamSpirits2/grandopening_pic.html)
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 22, 2013, 09:42:37 pm
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Our global goal is to provide everyone in the world an opportunity to meditate to the Loving Kindness Meditation. This meditation was developed and designed by Billie Topa Tate who is the Founder of The Mystical Sciences Institute, she is Mescalero Apache and shares many of her traditions and ceremonies.The Loving Kindness meditation was fashioned from her Mescalero Apache traditional sunrise and sunset ceremony.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100720182315/http://www.msi-healing.com/Global_Goal.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20100720182315/http://www.msi-healing.com/Global_Goal.htm)

Loving Kindness Meditation
by Billie Topa Tate

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Once Upon a Yogi Time in a far away land called Mount Evanston. There lived a woman who served the spiritual hierarchy of synthesis through harmony. It came to be known that she was a teacher and many came from far and away to hear her speak. A celebration every Friday in the form of a healing meditation is facilitate by her -- this is where many experienced the curative substance of love and empowerment for themselves and family. This extraordinary occasion is free of charge to the public. So many have enjoyed this meditation and desired to give (as a good karmic act) to those who cannot attend this beautiful event. This CD is an effort to record the meditation, as a world service to share this beautiful experience with fellow wisdom seekers. Also, so long as the meditation is copied in it's entirety, permission is given for anyone who wishes to provide those who are in need.

May this beautiful service return 1000 fold to Billie Topa Tate and her wonderful Institute - The Mystical Sciences Institute.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100314062735/http://www.msi-healing.com/LovingKindness.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20100314062735/http://www.msi-healing.com/LovingKindness.htm)

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Billie Topa Taté: I'm from the Mescalero Apache tribe. That's the base of my wisdom from this lifetime, the Native American culture. When I was about 25 years old, my mother, who is my primary teacher, sent me out to learn from other spiritual teachers outside of the Native teachings. I learned from the Tibetan and Hindu, also from the Philippine and Chinese cultures to gain perspective on different types of lineages and how they handle the sacred teachings. I continue to do that--I travel to India to learn from a wonderful Tibetan teacher who teaches something called the Phowa [pronounced PO-uh]; assisting people in the Tibetan style in their transition when they're passing over.

TMA: What was the nature of your Native American teachings?

BTT: The teachings in the Native tradition were the symbology of dreams, and also clairvoyance and psychic faculties; also about the aura and the energy field and how that works; the principles of energy, and how all of the different kingdoms interact as far as the energy field is concerned. There's a physical energy field that's the human being, where we get that energy from and how that comes to us and why that comes to us, and how to maintain a dynamic energy field complementary to the other kingdoms that are living in this earth plane with us.

TMA: I usually don't think of such terminology as clairvoyance and the aura as being part of the Native American teachings.

BTT: If you look at the ceremonial attire of Native people, you see that usually the tribal leader has a headdress on. The feathers represent the health rays of the crown chakra. That's not very much known in the non-Native modality, but that's what it is. The aura is part of the energy field of all living systems, so we can see that very clearly. If you go into nature, you get in tune with the subtle energies of nature, and get a deep sensitivity or awareness of all of the energy fields that are around us.

Clairvoyance and the psychic faculties are part of the Native tradition. They're word of mouth, not written down much.

TMA: Do the teachings go back in your family?

BTT: Very much so. It's a beautiful experience to be born into a family that encourages these kinds of teachings. When I was growing up I was much like any teenager, I didn't want to be "special" and I didn't want to learn anything that my other friends were not learning. It was very difficult sometimes when every year I was taken to learn something new from other spiritual teachers within different tribes. When I returned to school, my friends would say, "I went to Disneyland" or "I did this," and I never told them where I had gone because they probably wouldn't have felt very comfortable about that. When I was growing up, I didn't really feel like sharing that information, but when I was about 20 years old, I began to realize how rejuvenating it was to go back to the different places in Arizona and New Mexico with my family to learn those things. Yes, the teachings go back considerably.

TMA: Do you know how many generations?

BTT: I really don't know how many generations, but I do know that my mother is a retired shielder?? from the Mescalero Apache tradition, and her mother also. I remember learning from elders when I was very, very young and all the beautiful experiences I saw with them. I found that to be very intriguing, how they would heal people, how they'd sit in council and discuss things and do communal work. When we went to different tribes that were not Apache, I found that they had very significant core life behaviors that we did. I thought, "Oh, they're doing the same things that we're doing," and I enjoyed the experience very much. I learned a whole bunch of things, and I still go back there every year to learn. That's a lifelong process for me.

TMA: I notice from your website that you draw from many traditions. I saw that you have a prominent link to the Kriya temple.

BTT: As a matter of fact, when I was about 23 years old, I was missing the spiritual food from some of my relatives in Arizona and New Mexico. I did an invocation and asked for a wonderful spiritual teacher to give me spiritual food that I didn't have to travel so far to get. I did find a wonderful teacher, Goswami Kriyananda.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100309021936/http://www.lightworks.com/MonthlyAspectarian/2001/December/feature1.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20100309021936/http://www.lightworks.com/MonthlyAspectarian/2001/December/feature1.htm)
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 22, 2013, 09:55:49 pm
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Billie Topa Tate is the Founder and Originator of a wonderful healing modality called "Nomena" which is an Advanced Line of Energetic Healing - formulated to nourish, and revitalize the body, mind and spirit. Our Signature Nomena Healing stems from combining Native American, Hindu, Vedic, Reiki, Yogic and Tibetan Healing wisdoms. Nomena (Noumena) is a deep energetic experience which utilizes Charkas, Meridians, Marma points, Harmonics, Mantra, Five elements and other energetic principles of the body. It is taught to qualified students of the Mystical Sciences Institute and can be incorporated into other healing modalities to further enhance a practitioners chosen healing modality.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080427000428/http://www.msi-healing.com/Inside_Healing%20_Center.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20080427000428/http://www.msi-healing.com/Inside_Healing%20_Center.html)

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The Nomena Healer Teacher program is a unique opportunity to receive one-on-one training with Billie Topa Tate - who is of Mescalero Apache decent. Billie is the founder and developer of the Nomena Healer Teacher Program. It is a unique experience to receive many "one of a kind native tradition" lectures, as well as the benefit of exceptional hands-on interactions with Billie Topa Tate, it is truly an uplifting experience.

Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: ska on April 22, 2013, 10:36:19 pm
Billie "Topa Tate" is a mescalero Apache who has attempted to appropriate Lakota words for a name, but came up a bit bass-ackwards. :-)
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 22, 2013, 11:11:00 pm
Lozen Brown Bear's husband is Andy Boulton http://www.tokyoblade.com/band/bio/andy-boulton (http://www.tokyoblade.com/band/bio/andy-boulton) guitarist in Tokyo Blade

The tribute obituary page for Andy Boulton's mother includes a poem by "Mama Little Wolf" titled "Lozen Brown Bear" http://www.tokyoblade.com/mum/
 (http://www.tokyoblade.com/mum/)

Lozen Brown Bear Foundation http://www.gesarfoundation.org/news-blogs/v/view/the-magic-as-seeds-spread/ (http://www.gesarfoundation.org/news-blogs/v/view/the-magic-as-seeds-spread/)

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This week we are able to report that the native American Indian Lozen Brown Bear is to form the Lozen Brown Bear Foundation for the benefit of native American children
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Defend the Sacred on April 22, 2013, 11:13:23 pm
She seems to live in or near Evanston, IL. Evanston is the nearest-north suburb of Chicago, right across the line from the city limits, on the shore of Lake Michigan. It is not a cheap place to live or rent store space. It's where Northwestern University is. Though there are some shared households of students and hippies, many of the residents are doctors and lawyers. Like nearby Skokie, but way more expensive, there is a large Jewish population.
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 22, 2013, 11:18:30 pm
Heh, are there two Lozen Brown Bears? Or actually I think Andy Boulton prior marriage, Daren Salter current.

Daren Salter is married currently to Lozen Brown Bear.


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Daren Salter
@DarenSalter

Part Robot, Part Pastry. Built in HTML5. ?Happily Married to Lozen?

USA · eaglethunderdesigns.com

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Lozen Brown Bear ?@LozenBrownBear 4 Dec

@DarenSalter I love YOU!!! XXX




Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Defend the Sacred on April 22, 2013, 11:38:57 pm
Looks like there's big money in the pretendian business in Evanston:  http://www.zillow.com/evanston-il-60201/
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 22, 2013, 11:46:35 pm
Looks like there's big money in the pretendian business in Evanston:  http://www.zillow.com/evanston-il-60201/

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Billie Topa Tate is Mescalero Apache ( Native American ) and maintains a successful practice for over 12 years in Evanston, Illinois.

http://msi-healing.com/healing (http://msi-healing.com/healing)

So she's been at this expensive location for over 12 years.

On another page of her site:

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for over 14 years in Evanston, Illinois.
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Defend the Sacred on April 23, 2013, 12:06:54 am
"Witch" issues...

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150316529899484&id=138627494483

"Drum Making class with Lozen Brown Bear, Apache Feather Holder and brilliant teacher. Only $175.00 to make a buffalo hide drum of your very own. This is a four hour workshop beginning at noon."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150275723024484&id=138627494483

"This coming week at Witchy Wearables we have some great classes: Tuesday, Aug 16. -join Lozen Brown Bear for an inspiring class about Medicine Bags and make your very own - $45;"
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 23, 2013, 12:13:46 am
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Ghost Talkers is a Native American Group,

Lozen BrownBear - Founder and Head Investigator
Vince Raven Eagle- Investigator
Norma Lil Owl - research / Investigator
Kayla Fire Woman - Investigator
Kimmy Boese Rowland - Investigator

Our goal is to help you with your spiritual challenges and clearings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOxPLyM3hOk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOxPLyM3hOk)

Video uses music later made popular on Charmed television series


Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: loudcrow on April 23, 2013, 12:17:24 am
http://www.tokyoblade.com/band/bio/andy-boulton

Andrew Ramsay McColm Boulton states he is married to Lozen Brown Bear. I'm confused!
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 23, 2013, 12:27:36 am
http://www.tokyoblade.com/band/bio/andy-boulton

Andrew Ramsay McColm Boulton states he is married to Lozen Brown Bear. I'm confused!

I'm confused too. Maybe the page on Andy for Tokyo Blade hasn't been updated for awhile. Lozen Brown Bear was listed as one of Tokyo Blade's managers too.

Daren Salter seems to be her current husband and web master for her web site.

Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Autumn on April 23, 2013, 01:56:06 pm
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1271226872603 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1271226872603) Tribute video for Mama Little Eagle, shows some of the family including Lozen.

I've been assuming one family member has passed, but just realized I don't know that for certain.

For Billie Topa Tate's birthday you can give her "BIRTHDAY DONATION $1500 for a Special Request from Billie Topa Tate" http://msi-healing.com/product/birthday-donation-1500-or-more-for-a-special-request-from-billie-topa-tate (http://msi-healing.com/product/birthday-donation-1500-or-more-for-a-special-request-from-billie-topa-tate)

Well, at least you get something for your "birthday donation":

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The one hour  phone consultation will  allow you to explain where you would like Billie to send healing and positive energy.

After your phone consultation you will speak with office staff to schedule your time for the special request to take place.

Examples of Special Requests
- encouraging good family relationships
- family members or loved ones with addictions
- have your home or office remotely energetically cleared
- creating prosperity for a certain situation
- helping a child of special needs
- for yourself for relationships, family, career and love

Wonder why they would combine these three things together:  birthday, donation, request?

My guess is: $$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 23, 2013, 08:39:18 pm
"Further your understanding of how to smudge your home the Apache way"

2 courses 2011 at Witchy Wearables Illinois

http://web.archive.org/web/20120829031246/http://www.dreamspirits.com/index.php/courses (http://web.archive.org/web/20120829031246/http://www.dreamspirits.com/index.php/courses)
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Defend the Sacred on April 23, 2013, 10:12:10 pm
OMG.
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: educatedindian on April 24, 2013, 12:39:02 pm
Sheesh, she can't even get the most basic and obvious stuff right.

Here's what she will (inaccurately) "teach" you:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/121893622/house-blessing-smudge-blend-50-oz-made?ref=similar_items_sash

A 2 buck or less mix of lavender, sweetgrass, etc. In other words, things which obviously aren't Apache because not a whole lot of lavender grows in the desert. Lavender is native to freakin Europe, esp France.

There's not one single item there that Apaches or any other SW tribes actually use traditionally. (ETA: The Naishan who live on the Plains did use tobacco, and some of the desert Apache sometimes got tobacco through trade.)
Obviously she learned from neopagan or Nuage knockoffs of Plains or SE tribes' smudging. She claims a family tradition for five generations? Then that's five generations of them not knowing squat. More likely, mama didn't know squat and passed along Nuage BS to daughter, who wants to believe it goes back to the rez.
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 24, 2013, 03:24:51 pm
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TMA: Do you know how many generations?

BTT: I really don't know how many generations, but I do know that my mother is a retired shielder??

from the Mescalero Apache tradition, and her mother also.

I remember learning from elders when I was very, very young and all the beautiful experiences I saw with them.

I found that to be very intriguing,

how they would heal people,

 how they'd sit in council and discuss things

and do communal work.

When we went to different tribes that were not Apache,

I found that they had very significant core life behaviors that we did.

I thought, "Oh, they're doing the same things that we're doing," and

I enjoyed the experience very much.

This is from an interview with Lozen's sister Billie, I've laid it out so it is easier to see each piece.

Billie looks to be saying that she doesn't know her heritage in depth.

She claims this heritage through her mother and maternal grandmother.

She claims they are "retired shielders".

To me as an outsider, she sounds like another mostly outsider. In terms of word choices and observations.

She says she found that "different tribes" "were doing the same things that we're doing" - sounds like the usual Nuage claim that everything is universal and the same and therefore up for grabs.

So far haven't found the family surname.
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: loudcrow on April 24, 2013, 10:42:03 pm
I've done a bit of research about the Apache on the Internet. It seems the Apache do not call a Bear by name. Rather,
they refer to a bear as "My Uncle" or "My Grandfather". The bear is highly respected and the Apache have no contact
with bears. The owl is a night creature with whom the Apache also have no contact. I am curious about why a so-called
Apache family would have names like "Brown Bear" and "Little Owl".
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: debbieredbear on April 22, 2015, 05:38:49 pm
I noticed today that this topic was getting a lot of hits, so I went and checked. She's still on etsey, selling those dreamcatchers, etc plus "smudge spray"??  And other weird stuff. The site says "Genuine Apache" but there is nothing on that, or her dream site that says she is enrolled. Has anyone established if she is? Because if she is NOT, she is in violation of the Indian Arts and Crafts Act. Even if you are a descendant, if you are not enrolled, you can't sell as Indian. I have a Nez Perce friend, who is unenrolled (her mother was, though) and she would never sell her wonderful beadwork as Nez Perce because she is not enrolled and could get in trouble. I realize that pretty much nothing on her (LBB) etsey site is actually Apache, but if she is not enrolled, it should not say "Genuine Apache." I mean, someone could report her. ;)
Title: Re: Lozen Brown Bear
Post by: Epiphany on April 23, 2015, 07:36:26 pm
Hopefully we can learn who "Mama Little Wolf" is, then we could probably sort out the family genealogy. Both Lozen and Billie say this is their mother, their Apache heritage.