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Title: Chief White Feather Allegedly Channeled by Rob Goodwin
Post by: White Horse on July 03, 2010, 03:53:37 pm
a man claiming to be a shaman moved to where I live and started doing healings. He claims he was recognized as shaman by Chief White Feather in 1992, whereupon I lived for16 months on Water’s End Reservation in Northern Nevada, training under White Feather and his wife, Crawling Bear Claw, as their last Caucasian shamanic initiate into the Lakota tradition. This sends up many bad vibes and I would like to know? Is chief white feather an exploiter? White man selling NDN culture? or an actual NDN that is selling out his people? Any info on chief white feather would be appreciated. Thanks, White Horse  

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Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: RayoDeSol on July 03, 2010, 05:30:23 pm
moved my input to a separate thread ..  ;)
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: earthw7 on July 07, 2010, 09:04:39 pm

Oh My I did find this:

http://www.whitefeather.org.uk/page48.htm
Who is White Feather?

White Feather as we know him, is not a Red-man. Who he truly is we do not know. We understand that he uses the astral form of a Native American, a former member of the Blackfoot tribe of Montana through whom he expresses himself. He tells us that by being able to leave an aspect of his consciousness in this body, he is able to connect with this world through mediumship, it being otherwise impossible due to the gulf in vibratory rates between the realm in which he resides and our earth.

He has operated through Robert Goodwin for nearly forty years and first made himself known in a small development circle run by Arthur Phelps, (himself a trance medium) at The Forward National Spiritualist Church, also known locally as Earlsbury Gardens, situated in Birchfields, Birmingham, UK.

then we have:
http://www.wisewomanuniversity.org/whitefeather/
White Feather (o' ah dah gah gen), was initiated into the Wolf Clan Teaching Lodge of the Seneca Indian Historical Society by her elder and mentor Yehwehnode-2-Wolves, Twylah Nitsch.

http://whitefeatherspsychicrealm.com/aboutus.html
White Feather's Bio 
I became aware of my Psychic abilities as a child. I had many experiences such as knowing things that were going to happen before they did. Not just an occasional "feeling" but very often. As a Clairaudient, I am skilled in Intuitive Psychic. I can pick up so much from the voice and my Readings over the telephone as well as in person have been helpful to many of my Clients who have me read for them on a frequent basis. I am a certified psychic by The Independent Board of International Psychic Review.

Tarot Readings as well as Rune Readings have been helpful and accurate for my Clients. I specialize in Relationship Counseling and I am experienced in interpreting Dreams. I have given private Readings since I was a child and I currently give readings "in person" as well as Readings by phone and by e-mail.

I am available for both phone and e-mail Readings.
I look forward to assisting YOU.

Seneca's Bio
I have over 25 years of experience as a Psychic Tarot Reader and Counselor. Over the years, articles on my psychic predictions, tutorials on Tarot and many of my Readings have been published locally. I am deeply involved in healing and the intuitive arts. I am a certified psychic by The Independent Board of International Psychic Review. My courses of study include topics such as Regression Technology, Shamanism, Numerology, Dream Interpretation and much more.
My grandmother was a full-blood Seneca, and I believe that my talents stem from this heritage. These gifts, along with my studies, lead me in her path and allow me to help others along the way.
I am available for phone readings only.


 


Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: earthw7 on July 07, 2010, 09:05:47 pm
a man claiming to be a shaman moved to where I live and started doing healings. He claims he was recognized as shaman by Chief White Feather in 1992, whereupon I lived for16 months on Water’s End Reservation in Northern Nevada, training under White Feather and his wife, Crawling Bear Claw, as their last Caucasian shamanic initiate into the Lakota tradition. This sends up many bad vibes and I would like to know? Is chief white feather an exploiter? White man selling NDN culture? or an actual NDN that is selling out his people? Any info on chief white feather would be appreciated. Thanks, White Horse   

Of course he is there is no shaman in our culture and no one has the right to do ceremonies that is not native
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: Diana on July 08, 2010, 12:18:46 am
a man claiming to be a shaman moved to where I live and started doing healings. He claims he was recognized as shaman by Chief White Feather in 1992, whereupon I lived for16 months on Water’s End Reservation in Northern Nevada, training under White Feather and his wife, Crawling Bear Claw, as their last Caucasian shamanic initiate into the Lakota tradition. This sends up many bad vibes and I would like to know? Is chief white feather an exploiter? White man selling NDN culture? or an actual NDN that is selling out his people? Any info on chief white feather would be appreciated. Thanks, White Horse   

@ white horse, I use to live in Northern Nevada years ago and I don't remember any reservation called water's end. I tried to look it up on the BIA and NCAI web sites and it doesn't exist. Would you care to explain?


Lim lemtsh,

Diana 
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: earthw7 on July 08, 2010, 04:12:32 pm
there is no waters end reservation
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: White Horse on July 13, 2010, 11:51:26 pm
Thanks for the info. Yes this man is a "shaman" because they don't exist. I hope that "chief white feather" is put on everyones exploiter radar. Thank You, White Horse
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: nemesis on July 14, 2010, 08:55:36 am
The link to Goodwin is interesting to me.

The idea that white people can "channel" the spirits of various shamans and medicine men has a long and inglorious history predating plastic shamans.

During WW1 there was an explosion of interest in spiritualism driven by 2 main causal factors.  The first was the huge numbers of people who lost loved ones in the war and who were desperate to believe that they could communicate with the spirits of their loved ones via mediums.  The other factor was the rise of photography which, at the time, was used as "proof" that mediums were real via photographic images of ectoplasm.  The photos of ectoplasm when considered today, simply look ridiculous and proof of fraud.  An example here

(http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=weeklyrot.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fweeklyrot.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F07%2Fear-ectoplasm.jpg&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fweeklyrot.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F07%2F)

A really nice blog article on ectoplasm here

http://ghoststoriesandhauntedplaces.blogspot.com/2010/01/ectoplasm.html

For reasons that are interesting, but that I do not fully understand, most mediums at the time operated through "spirit guides" and most of these spirit guides were described as "Red Indians" or "Red Men".  

Quite why these people chose Indians as their guides is a mystery.

It could be that Indians were seen as being more spirchul. It could be that they were perceived as being "noble", "wise" and "closer to nature".

It could be that the genocide inflicted on native American people meant that there were millions of spirit guides floating around in the afterlife, although exactly why the victims of genocide would hang around after death in order to assist their oppressors contact dead relatives is a complete mystery.


This is a subject that is worthy of further research and consideration IMO.

I discovered something deeply unpleasant on a very sinister Australian website www.lightworkers(dot)org

I broken the link as I have some serious concerns about the organisation running the website.  I will post more about that later, but would advise anyone checking out the website to use a proxy server to do so.

One of the many pages giving cause for concern is this one (again I have broken the link)
http://lightworkers(dot)org/channeling/110480/last-camp-geronimo

I will post the text here so that you don't have to check out the link

Alongside a photo of Geronimo is the following text:

Quote
The Last Camp – Geronimo
 
Channeler: Samantha von Daniken, The Magicians Daughter
10th July 2010 Illnau, Switzerland
 
I am Geronimo
We are Preparing to take the People into the Forest
The Trees of Protection
This will be the Exodus to the Higher Planes
We are Packing the Horses the Packhorses and some Donkeys
We are Gathering the Grains and the Tipis our Houses
It will be our Last Camp in this Region as the Great Eagle says
It is No Longer Safe to be Here
And so we Gather Ourselves to Safety
We Wrap our Food into Tight Bundles
And our Most Precious Possessions that can be Carried by Hand
We ask you to Travel Lightly
As we Know not what Lays Ahead of Us
It may Seem that the Road is very Direct
When in Actuality it Not One but Two of These
We Rely on the Wolf the Coyote and the Drum
To Take the News of the Transit to our Fellow Indian Friends
I am Sharpening the Tools of Hunting and Trapping
To Provide the Necessities of Fellow Men
 
Geronimo


Re the "channeller" Samantha Von Daniken google turns up this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1110866/I-stole-repossessed-home-How-woman-squatter-house.html

this is her myspace page
http://www.myspace.com/the.magicians.daughter

She has also channeled the spirit of St Christopher who is, amongst other things, Christopher Columbus.  Or something

Quote
Samantha von Daniken - The Magicians Daughter


The University of the Universe - St Christopher

Channeler: Samantha von Daniken, The Magicians Daughter
Illnau , Switzerland 7th July 2010

I am the Spirit of Christopher Columbus and the Wayfarer
I am the Taxi Rank and the Taxiing into Land
I am the Picasso and the Gauguin
The Pestallozzi and the Steiner
The Montessori
The Alternative Path of Schooling for the Children

........


source: http://lightworkers(dot)org/node/110056


So it would appear that this woman got into debt and is now looking for a new career channelling the spirits of NDNs and also of Christopher Columbus. 

I can imagine that this will get interesting.



some further disturbing links

http://www.luckymojo.com/products-indian-spirit-guide.html

http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/index.php?title=Black_Hawk

http://www.portraitcorner.co.uk/spirit-guides.htm

http://www.ev1.keen.com/details/Rain-Summer-Hawk/Love-Relationships/8845953

This lady has an ‘Indian Spirit Guide’ that makes her paint bad art
http://www.joangreinert.com/Indianspiritguide.htm

according to this article (scroll down)  http://www.healing-crystals-for-you.com/finding-your-spirit-guide.html

Quote
It is common for us to have Indian spirit guides... and part of the reason for this is the culture of the Indian races were very spiritual... and they had a strong connection with both the earth and the spirit world. So the information gained in these lives remains with the spirits... and they use it to assist those they choose to guide.


a satirical article on the subject
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2009/04/28/alternative-therapist-sacks-red-indian-spirit-guide-for-being-useless/

Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: educatedindian on July 14, 2010, 02:22:15 pm

Alongside a photo of Geronimo is the following text:

Quote
The Last Camp – Geronimo
 
Channeler: Samantha von Daniken, The Magicians Daughter
10th July 2010 Illnau, Switzerland
 
I am Geronimo
We are Preparing to take the People into the Forest
The Trees of Protection
This will be the Exodus to the Higher Planes
We are Packing the Horses the Packhorses and some Donkeys
We are Gathering the Grains and the Tipis our Houses....
 
Geronimo

....So it would appear that this woman got into debt and is now looking for a new career channelling the spirits of NDNs and also of Christopher Columbus. 

I can imagine that this will get interesting....


Columbus no doubt will be getting roasted as he deserves...and I don't mean like on Comedy Central.

That idiot didn't bother to do the most basic research about Geronimo. Forests? Tipi? Grains? ::)

No friggin idea what a tree of protection or exodus to higher planes has to do with Apaches either.
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: critter - a white non-ndn person on July 14, 2010, 04:33:54 pm
my experience, for what it's worth, is that there are many spirits .. good and bad.. and some in between good & bad.. pranksters perhaps..

people who channel or otherwise commune in this way, well, first there's the absolute fraud who's just making it up.. but I have met some who do seem to connect however, they have no idea who or what they are 'channeling'.. could be anything or anyone.. they just believe what they are told.. it's a picnic for the bad and pranksters..

one woman i met .. it was hilarious to one degree but certainly sad.. in that she did whatever they told her to do. and she insisted the people who came to her do the same.. this was all free, no money exchanging.. people came on their own free will no advertisements were for it.. this is not the woman i have spoke of in my other post who claimed to be 'ashna'...  i stuck around for a bit because i was learning something by watching this unfold.  

and my thought is that people who (truly) can channel, have no idea who or what they are in contact with.  my advice.. stay away from it.
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: RobGoodwin on November 08, 2010, 08:18:35 am
i AM Robert Goodwin the trance medium and instrument of White Feather and I am most certainly NOT a fraud I can assure you. This spirit teacher has worked through me and continues to do so, for many, many years. Together we strive to bring truth to people. I am not interested in defrauding or cheating anyone and my motives (and those of White Feather) on 100% good.

I totally agree that charlatans of any kind need exposing as they give a bad name to those of us who ARE genuine. There are however, many Native American spirit guides who are helping mankind. When asked why he chose to come back through a white man (me) White Feather once said 'because we choose to teach those who persecuted us (the white man) and show them that we are not as they'

Finally, let me stress that real mediumship, the genuine kind, offers mankind proof of the next life. When I say PROOF and mean PROOF, not heresay, supposition or blind faith. There are many new age fakes out there I'm afraid, but the genuine medium will always strive to honour and uphold their gift by proving the existence of loved ones in the spirit world.

How many of you I wonder, have even read the White Feather books? If yo do, you will find them filled with love and wisdom.

These things I wish to everyone who reads this post.


By all means knock those who cheat, but please be supportive of those whose genuine aim is to serve The Great Spirit by helping others.

Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: nemesis on November 08, 2010, 09:13:37 am
Hi Robert

I am so excited about you taking the time to post here as it gives you a chance to prove, without and doubt, that Chief White Feather was a real person and not just a figment of your imagination.

Can you please consult with White Feather and provide the following information:

The date and exact location of his birth.

The names of his parents, his extended family, his children and subsequent progeny

A full account of his life including all and any significant events. 

Please provide as much information, including small details, as you can, including how and when he learned to speak English. 

The date and circumstances of his death.

This should help us in helping you to validate your claims.

Obviously it is easy for anyone to make incredible sounding claims about a native guide.  You must be aware that your claims sound highly dubious to most people, whether native or not.  Please provide the above information ASAP so that your claims can be subjected to the rigorous scrutiny that they warrant.  If you are being truthful you have nothing to fear by answering these questions. 

Looking forward to hearing all about White Feather.

Thanks again.



Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: nemesis on November 08, 2010, 03:08:04 pm
Also Robert

I honestly don't want to rain on your parade but I just found another website of psychic artists and visionaries and it look like White Feather has been communicating with them as well as you.

On your website you claim that White Feather told you that he only communicated through you and that when you pass on he is going to retire from communicating with people for good.


If you read what he says on this site it sounds like a very similar. vague kind of newage stuff that your White feather says.

Quote
Chief White Feather — “Think of a white feather, what does it mean to you? Lightness, purity, flight to freedom, surrender, lightness of being? Now think of a black feather, what does it mean? I will work with you regarding symbols; together we will find the many wondrous hidden meanings, the similarities, the differences. We’ll discover what you’ve known all along!”

http://www.spiritualpsychicart.com/galleries/gallery1_3.html

So Robert, I'm just wondering whether White Feather is triflin' with you?
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: RobGoodwin on November 08, 2010, 07:17:00 pm
Hi Nemesis,

Quite how we are going to 'prove' the reality of someone who lived on earth over a thousand years ago I don't know - this was obviously before records were kept. Also he is not at all interested in speaking about himself, only the truth that he seeks to impart. No doubt you will see this as some kind of cop out, but you have to understand that evolved souls have no need to prove anything to anyone - only to offer truth as they understand it and leave it to us to accept or reject what is given. It matters not one bit to either White Feather or myself whether or not you are able to 'validate' whether or not this source is genuine or 'a figment of my imagination'. You are missing the point because what matters is not who or what a guide purports to be but the truth that is imparted. There have been many such native American guides - Silver Birch being perhaps the most famous. Other have included Red Cloud and White Eagle. They all offer similar themes and not one seeks any fame or praise for what they bring.
Regarding the White Feather who speaks through me, he is indeed an individual, but part of a 'collective consciousness' or soul group who use the name White Feather. This may as I understand it, be composed of many, many souls which might explain why other individual utilise this name. As you say, there is nothing to fear in any of this, but I must underline the fact that it is near impossible to quantify information from such an old soul. I am not really interested whether or not you find all of this of dubious origin. It does not alter by one jot the magnificent teachings that he brings through. The truth will always stand alone - regardless of who imparts it.

Best regards
Robert
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: nemesis on November 08, 2010, 07:46:43 pm
Also he is not at all interested in speaking about himself, only the truth that he seeks to impart. No doubt you will see this as some kind of cop out, but you have to understand that evolved souls have no need to prove anything to anyone - only to offer truth as they understand it and leave it to us to accept or reject what is given.

When asked why he chose to come back through a white man (me) White Feather once said 'because we choose to teach those who persecuted us (the white man) and show them that we are not as they'

So White Feather, this great wise "old soul" of whom you speak, is uninterested in providing information that would be of value to his own people, his ancestors and their progeny .......because he has no need to prove anything to anyone as he is so verah evolved and spirchul that he is above all of that kind of thing

and yet at the same time you invite us to believe that he is sufficiently concerned to educate the progeny of his oppressors that he regularly makes the effort to speak through you to other white people to teach them "that we are not as they"

Incredible really


Finally, let me stress that real mediumship, the genuine kind, offers mankind proof of the next life. When I say PROOF and mean PROOF, not heresay, supposition or blind faith. There are many new age fakes out there I'm afraid, but the genuine medium will always strive to honour and uphold their gift by proving the existence of loved ones in the spirit world.


You talk about proof yet you offer none.

Just where is this proof of which you speak?
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: Defend the Sacred on November 08, 2010, 09:15:47 pm
So Rob, does this mean you believe that a thousand years ago Native Americans spoke English, and called themselves by English names?

Rob, how about you channel White Feather and type what he says in his own language. Don't worry if you have to do it phonetically;  people here who still speak the language will understand just fine.  :)
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: earthw7 on November 08, 2010, 09:16:13 pm
As a Lakota who lives among her people and understand spirits even Spirit will tell you which family they come from,
So what nation is this spirit from?? What clan or band? As native people we identify ourself as to who we are.
What language does he speak because we can only talk to the spirit in our own langauge,
If you can do this then tell me if this white feath can talk to my great great grandfather and tell me where
he is buried? I know but this this spirit know.
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: Defend the Sacred on November 08, 2010, 09:31:28 pm
Rob, I'm looking at your page here: http://www.whitefeather.org.uk/ 

Who is the Native man in the headdress? Is that supposed to be White Feather? If you have photographs, I would assume you have biographical data.

Oh, right, no photography "over one thousand years ago". So, is the photo of one of White Feather's relatives? Do you have that man and his family's permission to use this his photo on your website?

If White Feather got lost and wound up in England, maybe you were sent here to help him find his relatives.
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: earthw7 on November 08, 2010, 10:20:05 pm
He says he was a member of the blackfeet tribe in montana and if he was a thousand years old who was he then?
Natives can tell you when and how each nation was created. Were not the blackfeet in Canada then ???
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: critter - a white non-ndn person on November 08, 2010, 10:32:49 pm
Makes no sense to me. Truth, is often subjective, and this spirit, shouldn't have any problems or issues
relaying info regarding his life here. He should know what life he lived.. and even know who his relatives
are now.. and it makes no sense that a spirit, kindred to native americans, would not have a happiness to
make known to his family and community. Since, as I am learning here, family and community are the
utmost in the Native culture. This spirit would know, and not see it as being asked to provide "proof"..

Rob, all you are saying about not providing "proof" is, from what I can discern, is a "white man's" idea..
from the "white culture".. I don't believe in a native community it would be seen in that way, nor meant,
nor taken to mean it in that kind of white man way..

The answer you provided about "proof" pretty much negates that this spirit is a Native American.

edit:  What I mean, in case you don't understand, Rob, is that what I've learned of NA's and their culture
is that they are proud of who they are, and of their lineage (family, ancestors) so it would not be a
degrading matter of giving "proof" the way white people ask of it.. when white people ask for proof, it is
meant in a derogatory manner.. but for NA, they are proud of who they are.. so this spirit, you call White
Feather, it would be an honor to state who he comes from (family, tribe, band) and who are his relatives today.. 
unless I'm wrong on what I think I'm learning from the ndn's on this site.. and I'm sure they'll be first to correct me if I am..  :)
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: RobGoodwin on November 09, 2010, 08:31:09 am
I thank you all for your comments, but I can see from what you have written that we are engaged in a pointless debate here. You all seem to have one view, whilst I hold another.

All that I would ask is that you understand that we are all 'one' - connected to the source. The teachings and wisdom that have been imparted through me and that I have been fortunate enough to witness, speak for themselves and anyone with an open mind will see that they are timeless and beyond all culture, creed, religion and belief systems.

Quite clearly, my understanding of this and of the operation of mediumship seems to differ from yours. That does not make me greater or lesser than any of you. Ultimately, to use a phrase from White Feather 'man takes what meanings please him'.

I will therefore leave you to your thoughts and I will pursue mine. What really matters in all of this is that we all learn to go beyond our petty differences and the divisions of creed and culture and realise that we are all parts of the same whole. Please don't waste you lives shooting the messenger every time. I have no wish to exploit, deceive, cheat or con anyone. The implication here is that I am either guilty of that or else self deluded. I am most certainly not to former. If I am guilty of the latter, then I will have to pay the price for it because the laws of the spirit work to perfection and no one can escape their perfect justice.

I wish each and every one of you well in your search for meaning and in your life. The same spiritual force that animates me, works also through you. We are parts of each other and ever shall be.

Much love to you all.
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: nemesis on November 10, 2010, 08:41:15 am
So Rob

Basically your response to many genuine and important questions inviting you to provide the proof you are so keen to claim that you have.......

is to claim that you are not a con man but to invite us to consider that you may be deluded.


Priceless  ;D
Title: Re: Chief White Feather
Post by: nemesis on November 10, 2010, 10:26:54 am
I thank you all for your comments, but I can see from what you have written that we are engaged in a pointless debate here. You all seem to have one view, whilst I hold another.

Nonsense

You come here claiming to have irrefutable proof that you are channelling a native chief called White Feather.

When requested to provide that proof you provide only ridiculous excuses.  

All that I would ask is that you understand that we are all 'one' - connected to the source. The teachings and wisdom that have been imparted through me and that I have been fortunate enough to witness, speak for themselves and anyone with an open mind will see that they are timeless and beyond all culture, creed, religion and belief systems.

The "teachings" you purport come from White Feather sound like a load of newage guff to me. There is absolutely nothing in them that gives credence to your claims, on the contrary the "teachings" are clearly nothing to do with native people.

Quite clearly, my understanding of this and of the operation of mediumship seems to differ from yours. That does not make me greater or lesser than any of you. Ultimately, to use a phrase from White Feather 'man takes what meanings please him'.

Yes.

Your understanding of mediumship seems to accommodate the idea that you can channel the spirit of a 1000 year old NDN chief who does not speak his mother tongue, who is uninterested in communicating to his own people, unable to give details about his tribal ancestry and progeny and who for some bizarre reason sees it at his mission in the afterlife to deliver a load of newage messages for white people.

You are on a message board where many people have belief systems that accommodate the concept of communicating with spirits.  Some people here have much experience in this respect.  This is one of the few places where you could speak and be taken seriously if you speak truthfully.  

Promoting your story of White Feather here will earn you nothing but ridicule unless you are able to answer the most basic and reasonable of questions.

I will therefore leave you to your thoughts and I will pursue mine. What really matters in all of this is that we all learn to go beyond our petty differences and the divisions of creed and culture and realise that we are all parts of the same whole.

You, a white man, have the arrogance to ask native people to put away "petty differences"?  

You think that actual and cultural genocide are "petty" issues?

This invitation to ignore so many serious issues could only come from a white person whose arrogance is so great that he takes his privileges completely for granted and lacks the sensitivity to put himself in the shoes of others.

The Chief White Feather you say communicates only through you, is a racist stereotype, a white person's fantasy of an "Indian guide" that was as prevalent as ectoplasm in the early 20th century but that has no place at all in the 21st Century.

You do not care about this fact, nor to you care that NDN people find the aspects of racism and cultural appropriation in your business to be deeply offensive.

That makes you a racist.

Do you see how that works?

Please don't waste you lives shooting the messenger every time. I have no wish to exploit, deceive, cheat or con anyone. The implication here is that I am either guilty of that or else self deluded. I am most certainly not to former. If I am guilty of the latter, then I will have to pay the price for it because the laws of the spirit work to perfection and no one can escape their perfect justice.

You talk of the laws of the spirit world when you clearly know absolutely nothing about such things.  

Don't you have a day job that you can turn to so you can spare the world from having to listen to this drivel?

I wish each and every one of you well in your search for meaning and in your life. The same spiritual force that animates me, works also through you. We are parts of each other and ever shall be.

Much love to you all.

So you plan to carry on with your offensive and hurtful business while at the same time claiming to love the very people you are hurting.

Classy
Title: Re: Chief White Feather Allegedly Channeled by Rob Goodwin
Post by: educatedindian on November 10, 2010, 06:13:22 pm
The most ridiculous part of Mr. Goodwin's claims, or that of anyone else claiming to channel "red Indians," is their failure to be able to speak fluently in the language of the person they claim to channel, as fluently as someone raised in the language.

There are subtleties that are in any language that are difficult if not impossible to pass on in another language, esp one as different as English is from Blackfoot. We're not talking about related languages like English and German, these are entirely different families.

And of course there's the fact that none of what Goodwin claims has any relation to Blackfoot beliefs at all. It's vague Nuage gibberish ideas. Obviously the implication is that Blackfoot traditions have been entirely abandoned by an alleged Blackfoot spirit. But then why even make the claim he's Blackfoot in the first place.

If I were a spirit returning, I'd tell a medium how to cure cancer or end world hunger. I wouldn't waste their time spouting vague platitudes.

It's also a shame I didn't get the chance to ask Goodwin how much money he makes off "White Feather" and if he donates it all to a good cause. That would be the clincher in deciding if he's a con man, or simply self deluded.
Title: Re: Chief White Feather Allegedly Channeled by Rob Goodwin
Post by: critter - a white non-ndn person on November 10, 2010, 07:30:28 pm
Or, he is channeling/communicating with some spirit but has no clue who it is, just believes what he is told. Which
is a dangerous thing.. the spirit fooling him and fooling around with him.. not good.
Title: Re: Chief White Feather Allegedly Channeled by Rob Goodwin
Post by: nemesis on November 10, 2010, 11:13:29 pm
Videos of White Feather "being channelled" by Robert


White Feather speaks about Spirit Guides
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2QFweyTWO0&feature=related


White Feather speaks about Ego and Karma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ2rmjEKZ6Y&feature=related



Title: Re: Chief White Feather Allegedly Channeled by Rob Goodwin
Post by: nemesis on March 13, 2011, 10:23:58 am
Goowin is promoting the following event

The Inaugural White feather Annual Gathering
Saturday 9th July 2007
Farncoombe Estate, Broadway, Costwolds

with

Robert and Amanda Goodwin and "White Feather"
Spirit Surgery with Ed Pearson and his spirit surgeon "Matthew"
Psychic Art with Raye Edwina Brown
Reiki with Jill
The voice of Matt Terrado

tickets £65 including 3 course lunch

link (scroll down)
http://www.whitefeather.org.uk/




Title: Re: Chief White Feather Allegedly Channeled by Rob Goodwin
Post by: matt e on March 13, 2011, 09:52:12 pm
I have to comment here.

  Spirit is not bound by form. A spirit can appear any way it chooses to appear. you have no way of knowing if this spirit is telling you the truth about who he is.

  If a native spirit decided to use a non native to try to teach other non natives, knowing that his/her own people would cry fraud, would first go to the elders of his/her people (why are 99% of native spirit guides always men?) and tell them that he/she was doing this and to give their support. and not just one elder either. to claim that they are ascended above such concerns is pure B.S. and shows that this channeler really does not understand spirit at all.

  Why does this supposedly native spirit say the same thing that other (non native) channeled spirits say. that being a bunch of spiritual and enlightened sounding words that mean absolutely nothing?

  Mr. Goodwin, politely saying that we are all closed minded and that we (many of whom know of what we speak when speaking of spirit, and strangely enough, we are not all americans, or even have the same religion) are wrong and you are right does not make it so.