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Kymberlee Ruff
Defend the Sacred:
--- Quote from: educatedindian on February 12, 2012, 03:00:39 pm ---My name is Kymberlee Ruff, MFT.
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The aborigine shaman that I studied with was Major "Muggi" Sumner whom I met at a Lakota Sundance in 2007.
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Hello Kymberlee,
Is this the event you are referring to?
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1760.msg14250#msg14250
--- Quote ---Hello, my name is Kymberlee Ruff, MFT and I have just returned from the World Council’s First International Sundance.
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There was Woody Vaspra in his lava-lava and kukui bead, Michael Tamura in his Sam-urai skirt and fans, Maria Yraceburu in her traditional Apache dress, there was even an Aborigine they call "Major" with a bone through his nose.
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http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1760.msg24644#msg24644
--- Quote ---The 4th International Sundance will take place from Tree Day, Wednesday, November 10 through four days of dancing, Thursday, November 11 – Sunday, November 14, 2010. The Sundance grounds are located on Ngarrindjeri Elder, Major Sumner’s (“Moogy”) sacred land on the Coorong (“long water”) in South Australia
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tecpaocelotl:
The radio program for those who missed it:
http://youtu.be/MHA-kRHTtQ8
She mentions a few names of people I don't know much on them.
*update*
A few things she says that I'm questioning.
earthw7:
What i want to know is what is a cherokee :-\-----doing a a sundance For???
Why would they even be a part of the Hopi people.
Among Native people ONE PERSON can not give you the rights to a nation
If someone says a person made they (Keeper-shaman-or whatever they claim)
they must provide the witnesses names and dates this happen to anyone that
ask you of the events and where it took place and how many people approved it
before Native people will lsiten to you.
My main teacher is Grandfather Martin Gashweseoma. He adopted me into his Hopi family in 2006.
This means she has no right to the culture, langauge, spirituality all she has rights is to care for this man
educatedindian:
The email from her get stranger...She's now claiming to be clueless about how the net works as her main excuse. But no one could be that dumb or scatterbrained and also be a licensed counselor.
And all this silly flattery in her responses. First her emai.l then my response.
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Dear Al,
I am SO glad that you wrote back. I had a dream this morning that I was supposed to write and tell you:
"The Ancestors support your work to protect the Sacred Ceremonies. They will not even attend a ceremony where there is money involved. Therefor it is just theater."
I wasn't sure if I had the right email so I very happy that you wrote.
Regarding Maria Yraceburu. She is a friend of mine. I have taken vows not to gossip with His Holiness the Dalai Lama so I will try and explain carefully. I do love her even if I don't completely agree with what she is doing. PLEASE promise that you will not repeat this. I do not ever want to hurt her.
I think the best thing is to continue trying to talk to her about selling ceremony.
I met Maria years ago. She is part Cherokee like me. She asked me to attend this "retreat" that the "Sisters of Honua" were doing. I thought it sounded fun.
Then I found out that it was actually a workshop or something and my name was being used to sell tickets.
I respectfully bowed out. I heard that the whole thing got canceled. I am assuming that Great Spirit felt it was not in integrity.
I have NO idea how the Internet works but the ad had already gone up and was never removed. I heard that the conference never happened but I can promise you I did not go.
Also I was unaware that any site post me as a Hopi Elder. I am pretty freaked out by all of this.
Grandfather Martin asked me to go public on 08/08/08 because he was going deaf and wanted the message of the Hopi/Tibetan Prophecy out by December 22, 2012.
It has been extremely challenging for me to do. I am a single mom living in Santa Barbara and support myself completely on my psychotherapy practice. I work SEVEN days a week to pay the bills.
I do not understand ANYTHING about how the Internet works and I don't have the time to look into it.
I know that since I did that radio show on "Coast to Coast" two weeks ago it has been crazy!!
I don't actually listen to the radio (except for the hip-hop station that my son sets the dial on.)
I had no idea that C2C has MILLIONS of listeners!!
I have been bombarded with letters and phone calls since then.
Apparently people have put my radio show to youtube and then other people put the youtube up on their web pages. I do not understand copyright laws or any of that.
I have spoken to The Elders about this and they say:
"It is your job to get the Message of Compassion out there. Whatever laws they are violating is their Karma."
As far as being listed as a Hopi Elder. I do not know who would say that about me.
The thing is: it is true. Grandfather Martin DID make me a Hopi Elder on July 14, 2006 but very very few people know that. I do not EVER tell anyone that because my friends that are born Hopi (not just adopted like me) would be offended!!
Also I NEVER ever call myself a Hopi Prophecy Carrier. I try as much as I can to clarify that I am a "Messenger" of the Message. It is different.
As far as profiting from all of this: I WOULD LOSE MY LICENSE IF I DID THAT!!
I am only allowed to practice psychotherapy within the "scope of marriage and family therapy".
I am not allowed to even MENTION my personal life in therapy. It is about the patients and their marriage and family issues. The most I do is that I have Kachinas all over my office that the Hopi have made for me and Tibetan artifacts that the Buddhists have given me.
Also I am not sure about the Cherokee question and the Aborigine?? I only know one Aborigine.
Both of my parents are(were my dad passed) Cherokee. I was born in Arkansas. My great great grandfather John Byron was on the Dawes rolls and I am in the process of getting a card so my older son can afford to go to college.
I should have done it sooner but I never expected the economy to be like this when I had kids!!
I am trying to address all of your questions because I really really do support what you are doing.
I am friends with Woody Vaspra who I believe lives in Boulder with his wife.
Here is the thing: as a Practicing Buddhist I have taken vows to only say kind things about people.
I do not work with any of the people that you mentioned.
I DO NOT WORK WITH ANYONE!
All I do is pass along what the Hopi and the Tibetans ask me to. I am in contact with Grandfather Martin. He is deaf now but he can read. I visit him often and we write. He also taught me how to communicate with him in the dream time.
And as far as the Tibetan end of things: They have TONS of initiations and empowerments and transmissions that you have to take before you can speak about ANYTHING!!
I don't know if you have heard of the "Dharma Protectors"??
They protect the Dharma. I would NEVER want to mess with them.
I take EVERYTHING that I write to the Tibetans to edit before I put anything on the web.
There is a sangha here in Santa Barbara where I study closely with Ven. Bhakha Tulku Rinpoche and his nephew Tulku Orgyen Phuntsok.
http://vairotsana.org/our-teachers/
Well I have to go to work now but I am really glad you wrote. Please contact me if you have any questions or I left anything out.
I think it is wonderful what you are doing to protect our Heritage.
may all beings benefit,
Kymberlee
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Hello again,
It's hard to know where to begin...
Most of what I asked was not answered, and then not answered yet again in your two follow up emails. Some of the answers raise more questions.
To start with, why would you be a friend to Maria Naylin when she is so clearly a fraud and an exploiter who demands payment for ceremony?
She is also not what she claims:
1.Her name is not Yraceburu, which is a Yaqui name, not an Apache like she claims. Her name is Naylin.
2. She claims to be a "Qero Apache" a people that do not exist.
3. She speaks gibberish in her "ceremonies" in mangled Navajo, invents things she claims are Apache traditions.
And now you tell me she is actually Cherokee, not Apache at all.
You ask me to keep this secret. I cannot and should not. I often keep secret information that could be used to harm someone. but it is not right to keep information secret that someone is using to harm others, as Naylin has done.
4. She's been asked by the San Carlos Apache to quit using their official symbols without permission, but has refused.
5. She also has her partner selling what they falsely claim is Apache ceremony.
You claim to not understand the internet but it's a very simple matter to email someone to ask them to quit lying about you or misrepresenting the traditions you say you care so much about.
You claim to be an elder. No, you are not.
You claim to be a messenger. No, you clearly are not that either.
One man cannot make you an elder. The Hopi have long estalblished protocol of who is and isn't an elder. If the whole community does not recognize you as an elder, then you are not one. Period.
One Hopi man cannot make you their messenger. It has always been councils of Hopi elders that chose messengers and they were always other Hopi. To imagine they would choose a non-Hopi is ludicrous. They've always chosen the most traditional Hopi they could find.
Clearly you don't understand much of Hopi or Indian ways and you are spreading one falsehood after another. You are doing a great deal of harm.
As far as profiting off of these claims, clearly you are.
You have these claims on your professional websites, ones that you wrote.
You worry about losing your license. I think you should remove these claims from your websites.
If not, don't be surprised if people report your lack of ethics and try to get your license pulled.
I strongly urge you to cease associating with obvious frauds like Naylin and Vaspra, and contact every website that has spread falsehoods, You have done a lot of damage and if you truly care as much as you claim to, you will undo the harm you've done.
Al
educatedindian:
Two more emails from her that didn't answer much. The first one included a photo she sent of her with Martin. He looks like a very kindly elderly man, very confused and unsure of what's going on around him. Keep in mind Ruff claims to speak with him (though he's been deaf for years) and to speak with him in her dreams.
To which I'm tempted to say, "Yeah yeah, in your dreams..." ::)
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Dear Al,
I had a dream that I should also explain why I got involved with the Hopi election.
I have Hopi friends on the first,second and third Mesas. I have some Hopi friends who are Traditional and they ASKED me to help in whatever way I could.
I am extremely busy being a self employed single mom. I offered to help them with my time because I do not have money to contribute.
I also want to make it really clear that I do not have any kind of "donate" on my web site.
I have absolutely NOTHING to do with any money coming in or going out of Hopi.
I do mail packages of parrot feathers and other gifts. A dear friend of mine is taking a big package of chocolates and Kona coffee to Grandfather Martin tomorrow for Valentine's Day.
Here is a photo of him and me that my son took a couple of months ago.
FYI: People ask how I can be blond and be Cherokee. The answer is that I dye my hair. It has NEVER actually been blond. I was born with jet black hair and I little "widow's peak" that my mom said is "Cherokee". I don't know that means but I always thought it was a really nice thing to say.
asquali,
Kymberlee
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Dear Al,
I just re-read your letter to see if there was anything I missed. I have made vows with the Tibetans to live in absolute integrity.
I noticed that you mentioned some conference and asked if I went representing Grandfather Martin.
I did not and would never do that. All I do is write what he asks me to write and do radio shows because it will reach a lot of people.
I personally agree with what you are doing. I did not agree with what John Kimmey was doing when he was alive and I would never ever want to end up like him.
I am not trying to badmouth him but he was a white man and he called himself a "Hopi Prophecy Carrier".
I have tried to make it as clear as I can that I am NOT a Hopi Prophecy Carrier. I begin every single radio show with this.
I am also not a Tibetan Prophecy Carrier.
I am a "Messenger" of the separate "Hopi/Tibetan Prophecy". It is a specific Prophecy that was activated in 1974 when His Holiness the 16th Karmapa went to Hopi for the first time.
I have included this youtube that someone put up to the radio show I did if you would like to listen to it.
I take my responsibility as a messenger very very seriously. I have always tried and do the right thing.
asquali,
Kymberlee
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