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Is this Hopi?
« on: November 09, 2011, 04:18:52 pm »
You have been telling the people that this is the Eleventh Hour.
Now you must go back and tell the people that this is The Hour.

Here are the things that must be considered:

Where are you living?
What are you doing?
What are your relationships?
Are you in right relation?
Where is your water?
Know our garden.
It is time to speak your Truth.
Create your community.
Be good to each other.
And do not look outside yourself for the leader.

This could be a good time!

There is a river flowing now very fast.
It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid.
They will try to hold on to the shore.
They will feel like they are being torn apart, and they will suffer greatly.

Know the river has its destination.
The elders say we must let go of the shore, push off toward the middle of the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water.

See who is there with you and celebrate.

At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally, least of all ourselves!
For the moment we do, our spiritual growth and journey comes to a halt.

The time of the lonely wolf is over.
Gather yourselves!

Banish the word struggle from your attitude and vocabulary.

All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration.

We are the ones we have been waiting for.

The Elders, Oraidbi, Arizona, Hopi Nation
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Offline educatedindian

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Re: Is this Hopi?
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 02:13:25 pm »
That Hopi town is Oraibi, not Oraidbi. I found a similar quote in the first line of this book.
http://www.amazon.com/Now-Hour-American-Prophecies-Guidance/dp/1577330293
"A Hopi elder counted on his fingers and said, You have been telling people this is the eleventh hour."

The book is by Elizabeth Dietz, who is mentioned in another thread. She wrote a book on a man claiming to be a Cherokee healer, Jim Tree. Dietz says in the bio on her book that she is Anishnaabe. She also cowrote that supposed Hopi prophecy book with Shirley Jonas, who writes ghost stories and claims to have ESP. Dietz and Jonas's book is long rambling supposed prophecy claimed to have been said by unnamed Native elders.

That quote you named is a supposed response to it. It's online attributed mostly to unnamed Hopi elders. One site does claim Thomas Banyacya said it. If he actually did, he likely would have said it to non Native audiences about the danger of nuclear war or speaking about environmental issues, to which he devoted his life. There's several versions of it out there, some with obvious Nuage additions.

All of these parts sound like Nuage junk, not from an elder.

"At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally, least of all ourselves!"

Yeah, that obesssion with me me me.

"The time of the lonely wolf is over."

A silly play upon lone wolf.

"Banish the word struggle from your attitude and vocabulary."

This sounds like an imitation of Buddhist sayings.

"We are the ones we have been waiting for."

We discussed that on another thread. Black poet Toni Morrison said this.

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Re: Is this Hopi?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 12:21:39 am »


"We are the ones we have been waiting for."

We discussed that on another thread. Black poet Toni Morrison said this.


And it is often repeated by Little Grandmother

Re: Is this Hopi?
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2011, 07:05:29 pm »
oh puke, you're right. i remember that now. thanks. :)
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Re: Is this Hopi?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2012, 06:56:10 am »
"We are the ones we have been waiting for."

We discussed that on another thread. Black poet Toni Morrison said this.


And it is often repeated by Little Grandmother

Cultural appropriation left and right, whew!  
Just stopping in to note that this powerful saying which has resonated so widely over the years, is intimately linked to the African American community.  I'm not sure about Toni Morrison, but President Obama made an homage by incorporating it into his 2008 campaign speeches, and Alice Walker used it as the title of her 2006 collection of essays.  It is a beautiful song by Sweet Honey in the Rock (from their 1998 album "Twenty-Five"), which you can listen to on a little player they have on their website, and appears as a line in June Jordan's 1980 "Poem for South African Women" - this may be the first time it was put into print, and so I believe this is the correct and most common attribution.  Before that it was a rallying cry of the Civil Rights Movement.  
It really is a beautiful song.  I love Sweet Honey In the Rock so much.

ETA: Found the previous thread, from 2008, titled "Hopi Elders "Prophecy"?"
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