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General => Research Needed => Topic started by: dabosijigwokush on May 07, 2010, 08:05:03 pm
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http://www.buffalomessengers.org/
First Nations Inc. - Buffalo Messengers
http://www.facebook.com/hawkgoodfire
http://www.pavendors.com/events/fayette-county/farmington-june-pow-wow-and-concert.htm
are they native or not and what do the east coast have to do with the buffalo
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This is Michael Spisak, we have a thread on him already.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2392.0 (http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2392.0)
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seems like no one can get a answer out of these/this person
on another forum Woodland Indians http://woodlandindians.org/forums/index.php
someone also asked about this First Nations Inc. and while Michael Spisak answered another question about the white and black/brown buffalos calf he did not however answer the question about First nations Inc. weird yes? Or maybe he does not think he needs to answer to the public
here is the link
starting with post #489
http://woodlandindians.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=3019&p=20
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and they really check out there friends before going public
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06358/748759-85.stm
Kim Ord, or Many Weasels used a lenape language book to find the name lol
Chief White Panther, of the Traditional United Eastern Lenape Nation, WHO!
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and they really check out there friends before going public
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06358/748759-85.stm
Kim Ord, or Many Weasels used a lenape language book to find the name lol
Chief White Panther, of the Traditional United Eastern Lenape Nation, WHO!
These are an independent group of folks with no affiliation or association to Buffalo Messengers or First Nations Inc. We do not know them nor have anything to do with them. We would appreciate if you would stop associating us with them, or anyone else who behaves like them. We do not endorse them, or condone their behavior. They are not "our friends", nor are they or have they ever been involved with anything we do.
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changes in the wind
http://www.heraldstandard.com/news_detail/article/1631/2010/april/30/commissioners-approve-special-tax-sale.html
you think you own your home and property
looks like we only lease it from the feds, and they can and will take it back any time and any way they want to
wonder where the white buffalo will go now!
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Pennsylvania Department of State
Cease and Desist Orders
The following is a listing of outstanding cease and desist orders issued against charitable organizations, solicitors and fundraising counsels since 1996. These organizations cannot legally solicit contributions in Pennsylvania until they register with the bureau or provide the bureau with evidence that they are excluded or exempt from the law.
Organization Order Dated
Buffalo Messengers, Farmington, PA 15437 10/27/2009
http://www.dos.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/charities/12444/cease_and_desist_orders/571846
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What happen to the money that was raised by Buffalo Messengers to purchased the two buffalos???
Since Buffalo Messengers did not buy then , are they not suppose to give the people their money back?
People donated money towards the purchase of buying the buffalo. Nothing else. POINT BLANK!
It's a shame that good people donated $2,000 ++++++ of their hard earned money and it went somewhere else instead of what they gave their money for.
So where is the money??? Hawk or Buffalo Messengers cannot use the money they raised for anything other than to purchased the buffalo? If they did than that is fraud!!!!
If anyone is reading this who donated money to Hawk and Buffalo Messengers TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF THE BUFFALOS you may want to get in contact with Division of Investigations and Division of Audits
http://www.dos.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/charities/12444/investigations_file_a_complaint/571857
Within the Bureau of Charitable Organizations is the Division of Investigations and Division of Audits. These divisions were created under the powers granted to the Secretary, who has the authority to investigate violations of the Solicitation of Funds for Charitable Purposes Act, 10 P.S. § 162.1 et seq.
Citizens who have complaints concerning solicitations by charitable organizations, solicitors or fundraising counsels are urged to contact the Division of Investigations/Audits:
By Phone
1-800-732-0999 (within PA)
717-787-0700 (outside PA)
or In Writing
Division of Investigations/Audits
212 North Office Building
Harrisburg, PA 17120
The Bureau is prohibited from releasing any information regarding any complaints it may have received or any investigations it may be conducting, except as provided by law.
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Message of the Sacred Buffalo
by Marci Lynn McGuinness w/ First Nations, Inc.
illustrated by James Balkovek
Full color, children's book (TBR JUNE)
http://www.ohiopyle.info/Home_Page.html
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I wonder why they never annouced this guy coming
NEW ELDERS STATEMENT
greetings Relatives,
Approximately one week ago we were honored to host Chief Golden Eagle of the Yankton Sioux. He visited with us for a few days, spent time with these two Sacred Animals, and has issued a formal statement for all our Relatives. I invite you to read his words:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=436362342&blogId=533588675
Chief Golden Eagle of the Yankton Sioux
http://www.star-knowledge.net/home.html
And right here on NAFPS Forum in The Looniest Nuage Site Contest
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=350.0
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Is everyone aware that this white buffalo's mother came from a herd that produce another white buffalo about six years before the birth of this one? Were the elders that gave statements made aware of this??
I meant it kinda loses it special spiritual meaning if this white buffalo comes from a herd that is known to produce other white buffalos.
The former owners "Sonny and Jill Herring even made the statement
The white buffalo is not an albino, and is the result of a rare recessive gene that both parents must possess.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06344/745017-85.stm
Not so rare if another white buffalo came from the same herd ( People really need to start questoning this)
The mother and another pregnant female came from a Nebraska herd in which another white buffalo was born about six years ago, Sonny Herring said
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/fayette/s_481511.html#
Fayette County zoo gets surprise rare specimen
By Bob Stiles
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, November 27, 2006
As Sonny Herring approached the pasture at his Fayette County zoo, he wondered what the white object was nestled in the grass.
"I thought something else got in the exhibit," Herring said Friday.
It did, but not what Herring was expecting. In the grass was a newborn white buffalo.
"I thought, 'What the heck, we got a white buffalo.' I think the odds are something like one in 10 million," Herring said.
His wife, Jill Herring, said she also was astounded by the birth Nov. 12 at the Woodland Zoo near Farmington. She saw the male calf shortly after its birth.
"It's pretty neat," she said. "To have an all-white one is extremely rare. No one I know who raises buffaloes has had one. We're thrilled, of course."
White buffaloes hold a place of reverence among American Indians, especially the Cheyenne, Sioux and other nomadic tribes of the Northern Plains.
According to a version of a legend, a white buffalo, disguised as a woman wearing white hides, appeared to two men.
One man treated her with dignity; the other didn't. She turned the disrespectful man into a pile of bones and gave the respectful one a pipe and taught his people rituals and music. She transformed into a female white buffalo calf and promised to return again.
The birth of a white male buffalo means men need to take responsibility for their families and the future of the tribe, according to an Associated Press story about the birth of a white buffalo earlier this decade.
No one at the National Bison Association could be reached for comment.
The Web site Wikipedia lists at least five births of white buffaloes nationwide since 1995. One farm in Wisconsin welcomed its third white buffalo, born earlier this year.
Jill Herring, who has operated the 180-animal zoo with her husband for 11 years, said the calf spends most of its time with its mother.
"It is with mom, and that is where it will stay," she said.
In addition to the color, the birth is unusual because of when it happened, Sonny Herring said. Normally, buffalo are born in March or April, he explained.
The mother and another pregnant female came from a Nebraska herd in which another white buffalo was born about six years ago, Sonny Herring said.
People who visit the zoo and see the white calf usually have the same question, Sonny Herring related, "'What's that?'"
"They don't expect a buffalo to be white."
Sonny Herring said the buffalo could help the zoo attract more visitors.
"We hope so," he said.
At this point, the calf doesn't have a name.
"We're searching for an Indian-type name for it, and we haven't come up with the right one yet," Jill Herring said.
But she does know what's in the calf's future.
"He will stay, definitely, because of what he is. There won't be a chance of him leaving," Jill Herring said.
Her husband agreed.
"It will stay here for as long as it wants," he said.
Bob Stiles can be reached at bstiles@tribweb.com or 724-836-6622.
Images and text copyright © 2010 by Trib Total Media, Inc.
Reproduction or reuse prohibited without written consent.
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The fact that one other white buffalo was born six years earlier, in the herd Kenahkihinén's mother came from, really doesn't make this one common-place. White buffalo are rare. That's a fact.
What bothers me more than this new information is Hawk's association with some very questionable people. Another bothersome point is his refusal to answer any questions now, after repeatedly telling us he would answer any questions people had.
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The fact that one other white buffalo was born six years earlier, in the herd Kenahkihinén's mother came from, really doesn't make this one common-place. White buffalo are rare. That's a fact.
What bothers me more than this new information is Hawk's association with some very questionable people. Another bothersome point is his refusal to answer any questions now, after repeatedly telling us he would answer any questions people had.
It sure does have a very big impact of the birth of this white buffalo because it shows that this white buffalo has the family history of having the gene.......its not so special or unique if it came from a herd that has already produced other white buffalo.
Micheal Spisak is indeed a questionable person himself who has always had some very questionable people around him.
I thought that you two had good commuication with each other so I cannot understand why he would not be answering your questions.
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The fact that one other white buffalo was born at that farm does not have any impact on whether the white calf is special. There have been three white buffaloes born on the Heider farm in Wisconsin and they are all considered special.
Michael Spisak "has always had some very questionable people around him" . . . Weren't you involved with him at one time?
I haven't talked to Hawk in several months.
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The fact that one other white buffalo was born at that farm does not have any impact on whether the white calf is special. There have been three white buffaloes born on the Heider farm in Wisconsin and they are all considered special.
Michael Spisak "has always had some very questionable people around him" . . . Weren't you involved with him at one time?
I haven't talked to Hawk in several months.
Of course it has a very big impact on it. It shows that the buffalo's bloodline carries the gene.DUH More likely from a Mans doings than the Creators. Fact is that this buffalo is not the real thing( White Buffalo Calf Woman Legend) The point that this buffalo mother comes from a herd that produces white buffalos makes it a fact that it's a recessive gene nothing more nothing less.........
And yes I was around him but after seeing things that I knew where not right I got away.
Seems like you have also been involved with him. You have defended him on more than a few times. Even tho you have never met him in person.
Now I am not going to agrue with you because that is your way.You thrive on it and I am not going to give you or Micheal Spisak that pleasure.
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NO buffalo is born white unless both parents carry the recessive gene. That's the only way it can happen. It just doesn't happen very often.
Defend Hawk? I wasn't going to sit by silently while several ex-girlfriends made up lies and tried to ruin the man's reputation. I don't agree with everything he's done. There are others who I don't agree with 100% and would still defend against false accusations; not like Hawk is the only one.
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NO buffalo is born white unless both parents carry the recessive gene. That's the only way it can happen. It just doesn't happen very often.
Defend Hawk? I wasn't going to sit by silently while several ex-girlfriends made up lies and tried to ruin the man's reputation. I don't agree with everything he's done. There are others who I don't agree with 100% and would still defend against false accusations; not like Hawk is the only one.
which lies were these?? Have they been really proven to be lies? Or its just because he said they where?
Where you around IN PERSON to see this yourself? I do not think that phone calls and internet commuications are enough.
And Please lets not used the ex-girlfriend bit. Thats just an excuse to use.
After all you really do not know someone until you lived with them.
How many times has that excuse been used to cover up lies.
Maybe you should sit quietly for awhile and listen. Maybe you should experience things in PERSON and be around it for awhile before you talk.
Women will continue to be abused spiritually, mentally and phsically in this world because their words will go unheard and unbelieveable JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE AN EX-GIRLFRIEND's
This sickens me . And thats why I never came out in public at first because I knew that was going to be used against me.
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I'm with bls on this, i may not agree with him, and speak out of the path he has chosen, i still will defend him against taint if i see it, he does have the backing of certain LDN Elders, no matter if some these Elders have their own postings on this very website. this conflict reflects much bigger issues than simply personalities. when you sift through this thread and separate the Wheat from the Chaff, you'll its the issues of science>genetics vs. Traditional Knowledge, its the issue of a non-Lnu and a position of power that he has been placed in and many other dynamics, yes we also have to protect our Women, that's one of the mandates of this site but personality conflicts do not belong here..
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I'm with bls on this, i may not agree with him, and speak out of the path he has chosen, i still will defend him against taint if i see it, he does have the backing of certain LDN Elders, no matter if some these Elders have their own postings on this very website. this conflict reflects much bigger issues than simply personalities. when you sift through this thread and separate the Wheat from the Chaff, you'll its the issues of science>genetics vs. Traditional Knowledge, its the issue of a non-Lnu and a position of power that he has been placed in and many other dynamics, yes we also have to protect our Women, that's one of the mandates of this site but personality conflicts do not belong here..
He was not the only one who was placed in that position of power.
Also how come Micheal Spisak AKA Micheal Thunderhawk AKA Hawk Goodfire has no one speaking up for him from the tribes he claims to be from? He can go out of the way to get elders from other tribes but not one from his own.
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I don't know Hawk but I have followed these threads and can't believe it is being stirred up again. Sacred things are being dragged into this mess. All that has been said in this regard has been basically trivial nonsense. I read every post and followed all links and threads dealing with this issue and it appears to be nothing more than people using sacred issues to attack someone for petty personal reasons. I may be wrong but please let me know what you all think.
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I don't know Hawk but I have followed these threads and can't believe it is being stirred up again. Sacred things are being dragged into this mess. All that has been said in this regard has been basically trivial nonsense. I read every post and followed all links and threads dealing with this issue and it appears to be nothing more than people using sacred issues to attack someone for petty personal reasons. I may be wrong but please let me know what you all think.
Thats the point ! You do not know him nor does the tribes he claims to be from.
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These comments on white buffaloes being born into certain herds reminds me of what my Godfather once said, he said if these white buffaloes were truly significant for us why are they born into herds owned by whites?
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i love the grandfather's wisdoms
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These comments on white buffaloes being born into certain herds reminds me of what my Godfather once said, he said if these white buffaloes were truly significant for us why are they born into herds owned by whites?
This is exactly what I am talking about they would come back to the orginal people and not be born into a herd that already has had other white ones born in it and would not give birth to another white because that is a recessive gene bloodline.
I very much doubt that the elders who gave those statements about the one born in Farmington PA where even told about the buffalo's mother coming from a herd that produced another white buffalo.
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1) my experiences in life have never been in line with what i 'thought' would creator do or not do.. i'm always wrong when it comes to what i think it should be or would be. 2) not sure any buffalo could be born white without that recessive gene 3) who owns buffalo? 4) if someone's making money off this belief, then it is fraud. 5) i would like to think that somewhere someone ndn would know which white buffalo it was.. if it was this one or not.. and maybe there's more being born than anyone knows of (in captivity and out of) and maybe there's a reason for that..
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Let us see. There were at least some five or six hundred Tribal groupings at the time of the European contact. Does not therefore that imply that they were at least that many different cultures and creation stories? I think that it does. The White Buffalo then would be owned by the cultures that believe that it came to. Does it not then, from a logical standpoint, indicate that if we had an appearance of a White Buffalo it would have manifested itself to these cultures that own the White Buffalo/ White Buffalo Calf Woman Story by blood rather than some herd owned by someone not of the blood and not even in the area of the plains. If a White Buffalo appeared at Standing Rock or Wounded Knee would that not be significant? "LOM"
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that makes sense. thanks LOM. it would certainly seem that the white buffalo would be born to those of that culture/belief.
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Let us see. There were at least some five or six hundred Tribal groupings at the time of the European contact. Does not therefore that imply that they were at least that many different cultures and creation stories? I think that it does. The White Buffalo then would be owned by the cultures that believe that it came to. Does it not then, from a logical standpoint, indicate that if we had an appearance of a White Buffalo it would have manifested itself to these cultures that own the White Buffalo/ White Buffalo Calf Woman Story by blood rather than some herd owned by someone not of the blood and not even in the area of the plains. If a White Buffalo appeared at Standing Rock or Wounded Knee would that not be significant? "LOM"
This is exactly what everyone needs to think about , also since this white buffalo's mother comes from a herd that produced a white one before it stands to reason that it is a color gene that showed up in this buffalo in Farmington PA nothing more nothing less
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What I need to think about is what the spiritual leaders say about this.
Micheal Spisak, Ramona, Critter, Comes with fire, etc... are not the story. They are not the message. What is the message? I can only ask this in myself. I look for an answer from the people who are the keepers of the sacred rights and ceremonies. I don't expect everyone to understand or believe in traditional knowledge but I do believe in what the keepers of this knowledge say. We are all entitled to our opinions and in my opinion The buffalo are messengers of sacred rights and knowledge and remain untouched by people and petty bickering. In my opinion the Buffalo are not the Frauds.
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Fayette birthday party plans for white buffalo escalate dispute
By Richard Robbins
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, November 8, 2010
When someone throws a birthday party for a sacred white buffalo, no one expects a war of words.
But a ceremony planned for Friday in Fayette County marking the fourth birthday of Lightning, a rare white buffalo venerated by the Native American community, has brought to a head a dispute between its Pennsylvania keepers and an ancient Lakota Indian warrior society based in South Dakota.Mike Spisak of Farmington, who oversees the animal's care, is planning a ceremony Friday starting at 11 a.m. to mark Lightning's birthday.
"If people want to bring drums, they should bring drums; if they want to dance, they can dance; if they want to bring food, they can bring food," Spisak said. The ceremony will be "free-form" and will include a traditional Native American "sweat lodge" around sundown, he said.
Duane Martin Sr. of North Dakota, Strongheart Warrior Society headman, says he wasn't invited to the party.
Martin claims he was misled when he was in Fayette County a year ago for a thank-you ceremony for the 2,000-pound buffalo, who lives alongside a 3-year-old black buffalo, called Thunder, on the Nemacolin Woodlands Resort property in Farmington.
"You don't capitalize on animals that come here, naturally," said Martin, who chastised Spisak and Mark "Kingfish" Wassler of Uniontown, president of the nonprofit First Nations, Inc., for "raising money off the buffalo."
Spisak, who uses the Native American name Hawk Goodfire, said that's "not true."
"There are a lot of people who would like to exploit what is happening here," said Spisak, who is part Native American. "I brought Duane Martin Sr. here to see what was going on. He decided he was going to take over."
The Strongheart Warrior Society, which once counted among its members Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull, said in a press release last November that it would "oversee protection for the sacred white and black buffalos."
At the time, Martin commended Spisak and Wassler for watching over "the buffalo and the traditional protocols."
"They have been with the buffalo from the beginning, and can help to ensure fairness and balance are practiced going into the future," Martin said of Wassler and Spisak.
There is no longer peace between the factions.
In a phone interview, Martin denounced Spisak.
"We are the Indians," Martin said. "That is how white America treats the Indian, by lying to him."
Spisak said Martin "seems to think I answer to him. I will be damned if I will listen to Duane Martin."
Spisak said he and Wassler are waiting for word about federal 501-c3 tax-exempt status for First Nation. Their goal, he said, was to raise $100,000 to place traditional Indian buildings on the 50 acres of land given to them by Joe Hardy bordering the Mystic Rock golf course, about half a mile off Route 40. Wassler was not avalilable for comment.
"Nobody is raising funds off the buffalo," Spisak said. "Nobody."
Spisak, who weaves a fantastic tale of visions he said he received relating to the animals, said his job was to "make sure the buffalo is not exploited. If I'm exploiting them, I'm doing a very poor job."
White buffalo are exalted in the Indian culture. Spisak said he believes Lightning and Thunder, both of whom were born at the now-closed Woodlands Zoo in Farmington, were sent to help pacify and heal the world. He said he prays with the animals daily.
Martin, upset to learn that he wasn't invited, said he would attempt to travel to Farmington for the ceremonies.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/fayette/s_708230.html
For those who do not know who Duane Martin he is
Canupa Gluha Mani (Duane Martin Sr.), headsman of Cante Tenza Okolakiceye
Strongheart Warrior Society of Lakota Nation
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Spisak said Martin "seems to think I answer to him. I will be damned if I will listen to Duane Martin."
How very disrespectful and arrogant of Micheal Spisak to answer like that. Offending a headman of the Strongheart Warrior Society in public just shows many what Micheal Spisak is all about, himself.
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Cante Tenza Statement on Mike Spisak aka "Hawk Good Fire", First Nations, Inc. and Protection of Sacred Buffaloby Lakota Oyate on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 at 3:46pm
Cante Tenza Okolakiciye - Strong Heart Warrior Society
Free & Independent Lakota Nation
Box 512, Hill City, South Dakota 57745 | 605-454-0449 or 605-517-1547
Cante Tenza Okolakiciye: Traditional Strong Heart Warrior Society of the Lakota Nation Statement Concerning Mike Spisak aka “Hawk Good Fire”, First Nations, Inc. and Protection of the Sacred Buffalo in Pennsylvania
November 10, 2010
Cante Tenza Okolakiciye also known as the Strong Heart Warrior Society of the Lakota Nation is an ancient Lakota warrior society that honors Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull among its members. Based on Pine Ridge Reservation, Cante Tenza, works tirelessly to protect the Lakota People, enforce and restore treaty rights, civil rights, and sovereignty of Native people, and protect Native culture across Turtle Island.
In November 2009, Cante Tenza was invited to Nemacolin Resort in Farmington, Pennsylvania and asked by Mike Spisak aka “Hawk Good Fire” to lend their endorsement and protection for a white buffalo and black buffalo sacred to the Lakota People that are being housed there in a 40 acre enclosure.
Unfortunately, just a year later, Cante Tenza is now alarmed by the violation of traditional protocols and agreements made concerning the two sacred buffalo, use of the Lakota Inipi or sweat lodge ceremony that has been practiced on site, as well as public statements and actions of Mike Spisak, who claims to be the buffalo’s overseer.
Cante Tenza’s concerns are three-fold.
1. We are concerned that traditional protocols (ways of doing things) are not being observed regarding the raising of money in the name of the two sacred buffalo and also regarding participation in the Lakota Inipi (sweat lodge) ceremony. Mr. Spisak and others involved with the buffalo such as Mark "Kingfish" Wassler agreed to honor these protocols as explained by Lakota Cante Tenza and Tokala warrior society representatives on their visit to Nemacolin in November 2009.
2. We are alarmed that a non-profit organization is being created under the name First Nations Inc., and this organization has appealed for 501(c)3 United States tax status to raise money in the name of, or that will capitalize on, the existence of the sacred buffalo and displays of Native culture located next to the buffalo enclosure. Such activities are inappropriate for association with the sacred animals and appear to contradict the organization’s own stated vision, “sharing of Indigenous principles, traditions and wisdom rooted in the Original instructions given to all Nations.”
While often difficult for non-Natives to understand, activities that raise money in the name of, or capitalize from, sacred and traditional culture is considered exploitation by Native people.
And if the stated vision of First Nations is to be taken seriously, then why are they already ignoring the “principals, traditions, and wisdom” of the Lakota People that has been explained by the traditional Lakota warrior society known as Cante Tenza?
We offer the idea there are ways to create an organization that honors traditional ways of doing things, and without U.S. Government oversight. This seems to be a gross lack of imagination on First Nations, Inc. part that has alarmed many in Indian Country and is being watched by traditional Lakota Grandmothers on Pine Ridge.
3. We are saddened to see the statements of Mike Spisak concerning Cante Tenza and Cante Tenza Headsman Duane Martin Sr. (Canupa Gluha Mani).
In a November 8, a Pittsburgh Tribune Review article by Richard Robbins entitled Fayette birthday party plans for white buffalo escalate dispute, Mr. Spisak was quoted as saying,
“That’s not true” regarding the raising of money in the name of the sacred buffalo. Also, "Nobody is raising funds off the buffalo," Spisak said. "Nobody."
The actions of Mr. Spisak and others involved with the buffalo indicate otherwise.
In June of 2010, Cante Tenza contacted Mr. Spisak to express concern over raising money from a book written about the sacred buffalo and containing interviews with Native Elders entitled “Message of the Sacred Buffalo” which is sold for $14.95 on multiple websites including http://www.sacredbuffalos.com/ and https://www.createspace.com/3456595. The book is authored by Marci Lynn McGuinness with First Nations, Inc. We attempted to share our concerns about this book but they were actively rebuffed.
In October 2010, Cante Tenza became aware of the development of the First Nations corporation and their desire for U.S. non-profit tax status in order to raise $100,000 for a so-called “Indian Village” located immediately adjacent to the buffalo enclosure.
Cante Tenza communicated to Mark Wassler, President of First Nations, Inc. (http://www.buffalomessengers.org/Board_Members.html) how these actions were not consistent with care for the sacred buffalo and violated the original agreements made with Cante Tenza. Cante Tenza never agreed that a nonprofit corporation was a good idea, and in fact, our concerns went unheard and phone calls now remain unanswered or unreturned.
These two incidents also aggravate the existing concern that the buffalo (and future Indian village) are being used as a tourist attraction and financial draw for the multi-million dollar Nemacolin Resort. Nemacolin currently advertises a wild animal zoo, shooting range, and other “adventure” activities for its guests. The white buffalo is also mentioned on the Nemacolin website under “Wildlife Habitats” (http://www.nemacolin.com/activities/wildlife).
The Lakota People offered a year ago to provide hay and other resources needed by the buffalo for their well-being. Money does not need to be raised by a corporation to take care of these sacred animals.
Mr. Spisak also said, “I brought Duane Martin Sr. here to see what was going on. He decided he was going to take over.”
Cante Tenza was invited to Nemacolin to make sure that traditional protocols were being observed in the care and treatment of the buffalo. At the same time, there were concerns expressed by multiple activists in Indian Country about inappropriate behavior in the Inipi – or Lakota sweat lodge led by Mr. Spisak – a non-Lakota.
In our November 16, 2009 press release sent from Nemacolin, Cante Tenza explained in clear detail the reasons for our participation:
On Monday November 16th, Cante Tenza the Strong Heart Warrior Society of the Lakota Nation, announced the warrior society will oversee protection for the sacred white and black buffalos living at the Nemacolin Resort near Farmington, Pennsylvania.
Cante Tenza Okolakiciye...and the Tokala Okolakiciye Kit Fox Warrior Society sent representatives to the Saturday Wopila (thank you) ceremony to protect the ceremony and its participants and to ensure traditional protocols are being followed related to the Inipi (Lakota sweat lodge) ceremony and other sacred aspects regarding the care of the buffalos and the donated land for their sanctuary…
…We want to bring our Lakota Elders to visit these sacred beings in the months to come. Ensuring traditional protocols are being followed will help to support the visits from our Elders and Elders of other Indigenous nations.
At the time, our announcement was met with some criticism from activist organizations in “Indian Country” because of concerns about Mike Spisak. In essence, Cante Tenza shielded Mr. Spisak from attacks and controversy so he could better understand traditional ways of doing things and reconsider if his behavior was consistent with traditional protocols. For example, he was asked to stop running sweat lodge ceremony because he is not Lakota and does not understand the Lakota language and lifeway.
Cante Tenza clearly communicated to Mike Spisak and Mark Wassler the protocols involved for Cante Tenza support. Mr. Spisak was eager for endorsement from Cante Tenza to legitimize his involvement with the buffalo and when this support was offered, he gladly accepted.
As a sign of his word, Mike Spisak prominently displayed the Cante Tenza warrior symbol on the buffalomessengers.org webpage (http://www.buffalomessengers.org/cante_tenza.html) along with our November 16, 2009 press release. As of November 9, 2010, the symbol and press release were still on the website.
Spisak said Martin "seems to think I answer to him. I will be damned if I will listen to Duane Martin."
Mr. Spisak did in fact agree to “answer” to Duane Martin Sr. by his acceptance of Cante Tenza endorsement and support. Duane is Headsman of Cante Tenza and has also communicated the interests and concerns of the traditional Lakota Grandmothers he is responsible to on Pine Ridge. For Mr. Spisak to now claim he is somehow unaccountable to Cante Tenza and the Lakota people seems to be a contradiction.
In consideration of the previous information, Cante Tenza must honor its responsibility to the sacred buffalo, and take action as needed to bring balance back to this situation and correct the violation of agreements that has been undertaken by Mike Spisak and those of First Nations, Inc. We hope that those involved reconsider their plans and return to honoring traditional protocols that have been shared by elders and knowledge keepers to ensure fairness and balance now, and for future generations who may experience these sacred animals.
For additional questions or support please contact Cante Tenza Headsman Duane Martin Sr. at 605-454-0440 or 605-517-1547. We can be found on Facebook as “Lakota Oyate”.
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Cante Tenza Statement on Mike Spisak aka "Hawk Good Fire", First Nations, Inc. and Protection of Sacred Buffaloby Lakota Oyate on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 at 3:46pm
Cante Tenza Okolakiciye - Strong Heart Warrior Society
Free & Independent Lakota Nation
Box 512, Hill City, South Dakota 57745 | 605-454-0449 or 605-517-1547
a white guy, posing as a woman, representing a made up organization, speaking for the entire Lakota-Dakota-Nakota People. On what planet?
Here is the author of the above statement:
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2278.0
This is used as an attempt to discredit me? Really? Really? Pathetic. What gives anyone the right to step up and claim authority? Because of the buffalo? Consider this:
The White & Black Buffalo...should this be all Lakota?
The White Deer...should this be all Cherokee?
Trees dying from the top down...should this be all Haudenosaunee?
Animals turning white...should this be all Algonquin?
Raven bringing light to the world...should this be all Athabascan?
The Blue Star...should this be all Hopi?
These things, and much, much more is happening here daily. People being healed, mentally, physically, emotionally. No one People, Race, or Nation. This is for all our Relatives, regardless. Your choice. Continue to believe the lies, gossip and rumors because of ego and arrogance, or believe what is right in front of your eyes.
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Micheal Spisak AKA Micheal Thunderhawk AKA Hawk Goodfire AKA CrazyDog or whatever you are calling yourself now ( BIG RED FLAGS WAVING ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH ALL THEM ALIAS)
You had no problem with them when they came out in Nov 2009 and gave their support to you. The fact is the statement was posted all over the internet including this forum ( which was posted by another member)
Now that Duane Martin Sr, Headsman of Cante Tenza has had the time to really get to know what you are all about he publicly denounced you and does not support what you are doing or what you really are all about.
" The trickster preys on guilty confused people who don’t know who they really are, but he is powerless against people who have to courage to acknowledge and confront their shadows."
Quote from "How to Recognize Nuage Tricksters:How to Make Them Reveal Their Tricks"
I strongly urge people to read this article
http://nuagetricksters.bravehost.com/
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Here is the statement that was posted on Buffalo Messengers Blog. Its still on their site which is very misleading to people who read it thinking the Cante Tenza Okolakiceye
Strongheart Warrior Society still support Buffalo Messengers.
More tricks?
http://buffalomessengers.blogspot.com/2009/11/lakota-warriors-establish-protection.html
Monday, November 16, 2009
LAKOTA WARRIORS ESTABLISH PROTECTION FOR PENNSYLVANIA WHITE BUFFALO
Cante Tenza Okolakiceye
Strongheart Warrior Society of Lakota Nation
MEDIA RELEASE
For Immediate Release: Monday, November 16, 2009
Contact: Duane Martin Sr, Headsman, Cante Tenza, 605-517-1547
LAKOTA WARRIORS ESTABLISH PROTECTION FOR PENNSYLVANIA WHITE BUFFALO
Announcement Follows Traditional Native Ceremony at Nemacolin Sanctuary
Farmington, Pennsylvania - On Monday November 16th, Cante Tenza the Strongheart Warrior Society of the Lakota Nation, announced the warrior society will oversee protection for the sacred white and black buffalos living at the Nemacolin Resort near Farmington, Pennsylvania.
Cante Tenza Okolakiceye, which has included famous Lakota warriors such as Crazy Horse, Sitting Bull and No Ears, and the Tokala Okolakiceye Kit Fox Warrior Society sent representatives to the Saturday Wopila (thank you) ceremony to protect the ceremony and its participants and to ensure traditional protocols are being followed related to the Inipi (Lakota sweat lodge) ceremony and other sacred aspects regarding the care of the buffalos and the donated land for their sanctuary.
"We are honored to come here with direction from the Grandmothers to ensure balance and traditional protocol is followed related to the recognition of the sacred white and black buffalos," said Canupa Gluha Mani (Duane Martin Sr.), headsman of Cante Tenza. "These beings are sacred to our people and their colors of white and black show us that we must all return to balance through the renaissance of traditional language and lifeway."
Cante Tenza will ensure the 50 acre buffalo sanctuary which is free and open to all people continues to be welcoming to Native people who would be concerned traditional ways are being honored on site.
"We have welcomed Hawk Goodfire (Holikachuk,Shawnee) and Mark "Kingfish" Wassler (Shawnee) of Buffalo Messengers into Cante Tenza to watch over the buffalo and traditional protocols," explained Canupa Gluha Mani. "They have been with the buffalo from the beginning and can help to ensure fairness and balance are practiced going into the future."
Representing the Tokala Okolakiceye was Louis Janis, who along with Martin are both Tetuan Oglalla Judiciary Council members.
Elders of numerous Indigenous nations have been coming to honor the white buffalo since its birth in November 2006. Both the white and black buffalo were transferred to Nemacolin in mid October of this year leading to Saturday's ceremony that included visitors from the Lakota, Shawnee, Oneida, Mohawk, Cherokee and Crow nations. Strongheart's announcement adds another level of significance to this historic event.
Canupa Gluha Mani said, "We want to bring our Lakota Elders to visit these sacred beings in the months to come. Ensuring traditional protocols are being followed will help to support the visits from our Elders and Elders of other Indigenous nations."
More information about the buffalo can be found at http://www.buffalomessengers.org/ on Myspace at http://www.myspace.com/buffalomessengers and on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/hawkgoodfire
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I'm not in the fight between you two, I just wanted to ask a question to Mike and Ramona1.
What is your take on the Sacred Mountain Ranch?
It's another buffalo ranch that has a herd of white buffalo (at least 11 so far). The first of which was born in 1997.
http://www.sacredwhitebuffalo.org/about.htm
From their info they didn't produce a white buffalo with both parents being white buffalos prior to 2007. The first 8 came from either one parent being a white buffalo or neither parent.
I'm just wondering, with the info that white buffalos are not only at Nemacolin (a claim Mike's never made btw, not wanting to put words in your mouth), is all the hubbub really about. These seem like very personal and human issues and I personally think if you take the buffalos out of the conversation what you end up having is some egos battling for supremacy. In this whole situation, although I know both sides feel attacked and are defending themselves, somebody needs to be a hero and quit huffing and puffing. Just my take.
Superdog
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It is my opinion that the REAL White Buffalo would come to the people whom the legend belongs too. Not on a farm, ranch, or zoo. It would not come from a herd with/where other white buffalo have been born nor would it produce another white or discolored calf, ( This shows a recessive gene from breeding) After all there is only supposed to be ONE.
Of course I am not of the tribe that the legend belongs to, I am only sharing my opinion. would be nice if someone from those tribes would share their's. Thank you.
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The real Story!! OH MY GOD!
I am Lakota/Dakota
we do not believe in every white buffalo is sacred
all it does make a good hide to make dress or moccasin.
We believe the buffalo is our brother but that is all buffalo no matter the color.
We only acknowledged one buffalo that was born in Janesville because the buffalo had to
turn colors, born white, turns yellow/black/red.
We don't acknowledge those that are born white because of a gene problem.
New ager and other tribe have used our belief and corrupted them just like the people
you are talking about.
This is what happens when people start barrowing other cultures they get so far from the
truth that people have a hard time figuring out what the truth is.
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The real Story!! OH MY GOD!
I am Lakota/Dakota
we do not believe in every white buffalo is sacred
all it does make a good hide to make dress or moccasin.
We believe the buffalo is our brother but that is all buffalo no matter the color.
We only acknowledged one buffalo that was born in Janesville because the buffalo had to
turn colors, born white, turns yellow/black/red.
We don't acknowledge those that are born white because of a gene problem.
New ager and other tribe have used our belief and corrupted them just like the people
you are talking about.
This is what happens when people start barrowing other cultures they get so far from the
truth that people have a hard time figuring out what the truth is.
Thank you for the information I too have a problem with people mixing cultures/tribal beliefs to suit their own needs To me when they do this is begins to sound more like a Cult than Cultural
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As tribal people we have been asked over and over again to acknowledge every white buffalo that
is born because of our belief and get upset with us because we don't tell them what they want to hear.
First and foremost the buffalo is brother and our relatives we love and honor all buffalo because we believe that they
are blood relatived to us.
The story of the white buffalo calf pipe woman is different, she did not turn to
a white buffalo but changed color and one of the colors is white/red/black/yellow.
We know that many tribes in the east have used our story for their benefit,making things sacred for
their own good and pocket.
We have all kind of people wanting to owe these buffalo. That statement is wrong to began with "Owe"
no one can owe sacred.
I shake my head at people who do these thing wonder why?
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Here is the statement that was posted on Buffalo Messengers Blog. Its still on their site which is very misleading to people who read it thinking the Cante Tenza Okolakiceye
Strongheart Warrior Society still support Buffalo Messengers.
More tricks?
http://buffalomessengers.blogspot.com/2009/11/lakota-warriors-establish-protection.html
Monday, November 16, 2009
LAKOTA WARRIORS ESTABLISH PROTECTION FOR PENNSYLVANIA WHITE BUFFALO
Cante Tenza Okolakiceye
Strongheart Warrior Society of Lakota Nation
MEDIA RELEASE
For Immediate Release: Monday, November 16, 2009
Contact: Duane Martin Sr, Headsman, Cante Tenza, 605-517-1547
LAKOTA WARRIORS ESTABLISH PROTECTION FOR PENNSYLVANIA WHITE BUFFALO
Announcement Follows Traditional Native Ceremony at Nemacolin Sanctuary
Farmington, Pennsylvania - On Monday November 16th, Cante Tenza the Strongheart Warrior Society of the Lakota Nation, announced the warrior society will oversee protection for the sacred white and black buffalos living at the Nemacolin Resort near Farmington, Pennsylvania.
Cante Tenza Okolakiceye, which has included famous Lakota warriors such as Crazy Horse, Sitting Bull and No Ears, and the Tokala Okolakiceye Kit Fox Warrior Society sent representatives to the Saturday Wopila (thank you) ceremony to protect the ceremony and its participants and to ensure traditional protocols are being followed related to the Inipi (Lakota sweat lodge) ceremony and other sacred aspects regarding the care of the buffalos and the donated land for their sanctuary.
"We are honored to come here with direction from the Grandmothers to ensure balance and traditional protocol is followed related to the recognition of the sacred white and black buffalos," said Canupa Gluha Mani (Duane Martin Sr.), headsman of Cante Tenza. "These beings are sacred to our people and their colors of white and black show us that we must all return to balance through the renaissance of traditional language and lifeway."
Cante Tenza will ensure the 50 acre buffalo sanctuary which is free and open to all people continues to be welcoming to Native people who would be concerned traditional ways are being honored on site.
"We have welcomed Hawk Goodfire (Holikachuk,Shawnee) and Mark "Kingfish" Wassler (Shawnee) of Buffalo Messengers into Cante Tenza to watch over the buffalo and traditional protocols," explained Canupa Gluha Mani. "They have been with the buffalo from the beginning and can help to ensure fairness and balance are practiced going into the future."
Representing the Tokala Okolakiceye was Louis Janis, who along with Martin are both Tetuan Oglalla Judiciary Council members.
Elders of numerous Indigenous nations have been coming to honor the white buffalo since its birth in November 2006. Both the white and black buffalo were transferred to Nemacolin in mid October of this year leading to Saturday's ceremony that included visitors from the Lakota, Shawnee, Oneida, Mohawk, Cherokee and Crow nations. Strongheart's announcement adds another level of significance to this historic event.
Canupa Gluha Mani said, "We want to bring our Lakota Elders to visit these sacred beings in the months to come. Ensuring traditional protocols are being followed will help to support the visits from our Elders and Elders of other Indigenous nations."
More information about the buffalo can be found at http://www.buffalomessengers.org/ on Myspace at http://www.myspace.com/buffalomessengers and on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/hawkgoodfire
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Seems like this article was finally removed from their blog
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Seems that Millioke Meadows inwhich Micheal Spisak was involved in at the Nemacolin Woodlands Resort, located in the Laurel Highlands of Southwestern Pennsylvania is no longer on the resort's current map.
http://www.nemacolin.com/images/map_resort1.jpg
http://www.nemacolin.com/images/map_resort2.jpg
just wondering if the Resort has had a change of plans. Seems that way, emailed them on the subject and I am waiting on their reply but I doubt they will get back to me.
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Down to only two board members They had at least 5 before. Interesting
http://www.buffalomessengers.org/Board_Members.html
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Ramona what is the history of you and Micheal Spisak?