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General => Frauds => Topic started by: Jim Tree on February 14, 2005, 11:57:54 pm

Title: Greg Gregory AKA Jade Wahoo AKA Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: Jim Tree on February 14, 2005, 11:57:54 pm
Anyone know about this guy? He is a Shamon from Sedona.

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Title: Re: Jade Wahoo, Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: AlaskaGrl on February 15, 2005, 01:37:53 am
I ran a search on "Jade Wah'oo and found this blurb.  

http://www.taoweb.com/shaman/jade/

Quote:

"In 1974 I was adopted as a grandson by Juan Pena (of the San Juan Pueblo), the keeper of an ancient Shamanic lineage passed from generation to generation over the last 22,000 years. "


http://www.byregion.net/profiles/jadewahoo.html

Quote:
"Offering the "Neoarchaic Ecstatic Shamanic Techniques" training program, Shamanic Ceremonial Healings, a Paleo-Siberian Sweat Lodge and ceremonies of blessing, transformation and empowerment"

This site has an image of Juan Pena c1972
Anyone hear of him?

Linda





Title: Re: Jade Wahoo, Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: educatedindian on February 16, 2005, 02:38:31 pm
I had a run in with one of his franchisers/followers, Nicholas Spence or "Noble Wolf". The guy infiltrated NAFPS a few years ago, plus one of Bryant's groups.

http://www.nafps.net/
Go to Articles and look for Grigori's name.

Or a direct link.
http://users.pandora.be/gohiyuhi/nafps/articles/art28.htm

Pass it along wherever you can. Is he coming to your area to sell ceremonies?

Title: Re: Jade Wahoo, Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: OneWorldOneTribe on November 20, 2010, 06:55:41 pm
Just a note to let interested parties know that Jade Wa'hoo is still kicking in Sedona, apparently still making a living from mis-appropriation and scamming.

As a separate issue, Llyn Roberts ( www.llynroberts.com ), associated with www.dreamchange.org and collaborating with John Perkins....seems suspect to me, anyone have input on these two?


May we all be blessed with peace and compassion

Stuart
Title: Re: Jade Wahoo, Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: Teacher on December 28, 2010, 02:53:19 am
Hi Stuart

Have you gotten any news about these people?  I just looked at the website and it seems pretty hinky to me.  Shamanic Reiki??  I'm a Reiki Master and have never heard of "Shamanic" Reiki.  Also, her Shapeshifting workshop seems suspect to me.  Call me crazy, but there may be something more here for the community to be looking into.  I'll ask around and see what pops up.

Cheers
Jo-Ann
Title: Re: Jade Wahoo, Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: Teacher on December 28, 2010, 04:22:44 am
Hi Again Stuart

I just did a little checking and found out that Lyn Roberts has her degree in Buddhist Philosophy and uses that.  She also spent time in South America.  I'm not seeing where she's doing anything with Native American/First Nations spirituality.  I'll keep you posted as I see/hear anything.

Cheers
Title: Re: Jade Wahoo, Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: Lodro on December 28, 2010, 07:46:10 am
Not a degree in "buddhist philosophy", but in Tibetan Buddhist Psychology from Naropa University (founded by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche) Info on what that entails:

http://coursecatalog.naropa.edu/contemplative-psychology/undergraduate-programs/ba-contemplative-psychology/courses

I would say there's very little "buddhism" in it
Title: Re: Jade Wahoo, Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: nemesis on December 28, 2010, 11:35:46 am
Just a note to let interested parties know that Jade Wa'hoo is still kicking in Sedona, apparently still making a living from mis-appropriation and scamming.

As a separate issue, Llyn Roberts ( www.llynroberts.com ), associated with www.dreamchange.org and collaborating with John Perkins....seems suspect to me, anyone have input on these two?


May we all be blessed with peace and compassion

Stuart

Yes, both have strong connections with Robin Johnson, the woman behind various websites and organisations promoting events attended by Kiesha Crowther aka Little Grandmother including:

The Great Mystery
The Prophet's Conference
Axiom Conferences

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As the world shifts, so can we to a higher and more positive relationship with our souls and nature. We can help bridge the balance between spirit, humans and the natural world together. I hope you’ll join me and Llyn Roberts – http://www.dreamchange.org ,  for these incredible events. We will be at Omega in October and taking our Mayalands journey in December sponsored by The Prophet’s Conference. I’ve put the full information for both of these upcoming events below. I truly hope to see you there.

http://www.johnperkins.org/?page_id=23

see my post here for more details re Robin Johnson

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3076.msg26518#msg26518

also google for "Robin Johnson" and "John Perkins" for further info

I hope this helps :)

Title: Re: Jade Wahoo, Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: GB on December 29, 2010, 11:15:23 pm
His real name is Gregg Gregory.

Over the years, he has used the following names (and possibly other combinations) in association with his website and/or to who payments for his services were to be made:
Gregg Gregory, Jade Gregory, Jade W'ahoo, Jade Wahoo, Jade Grigori, Jade Wah'oo Gregory
Today: Jade Wah'oo Grigori

He was born in Ohio (was a farm boy)

This is his website (please note his upcoming trips he is promoting and the dates)
http://www.shamanic.net/index.php/home (http://www.shamanic.net/index.php/home)

He hangs out on an online radio station forum:
http://www.radioparadise.com/content.php?name=Forum&file=search (http://www.radioparadise.com/content.php?name=Forum&file=search)

Unfortunately have met this man in real life, listened very closely to what he said, and carefully questioned why he labels himself as such.

Have been in contact with a few of his victims (all female).
He preys upon females, but will take any money  to travel or promote.


He needs to stop, any ways or means possible.

Title: Re: Jade Wahoo, Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: GB on January 26, 2011, 09:51:29 pm
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HOME PAGE STATING ANCESTRY/SHAMAN

http://www.shamanic.net/index.php/home (http://www.shamanic.net/index.php/home)


Shaman

'shä-m?n. From Evenki (Tungusic language of Siberia) šam?n, derived from the Sumerian ‘sham-an’, Eagle of Heaven


1) sham - from the Sumerian ‘shem’ or ‘sham’ meaning  ‘eagle’ or ‘vehicle of flight’

2) an - from the Sumerian, ‘heaven’ or ‘celestial’


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1)     The Eagle of Heaven
2)     One who flies as the Eagle into the Celestial Domains
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Flying.Shaman.small

Self Portrait, Jade Wah'oo Grigori  9/27/09

CLAIMING AUTHENTIC ANCESTRY

Jade Wah’oo Grigori brings forth authentic Shamanic Ways on behalf of his community, the community of All Peoples.

He underwent his first Shamanic Initiation, that of Death-by-Intent, in 1956 at 5 years of age. Of Mongolian ancestry, Jade Wah’oo Grigori received direct initiations and training from his Ancestral Spirits who guided and instructed him in the rigorous endeavors of journeying into the spirit-realms, ways of healing and accessing Knowledge.

 

In 1974 Jade met and was adopted as Grandson by Juan Peña, an Old-Man Shaman (Téwa-Ké or Bear Shaman) of one of the Tewan Pueblos of the Upper Rio Grande. Jade’s Grampa Peña apprenticed him for the next 8 years.

With his Grampa Peña’s death in 1982, at the age of 104, the Caretakership of ‘the Ways’ passed to Jade Wah’oo.



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Title: Re: Jade Wahoo, Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: wserra on January 27, 2011, 05:56:59 pm
Whether it is his real name or not, the guy has clearly used "Gregg Gregory".  Compare the contact address on his current site (http://www.shamanic.net/index.php/contact) with that on what appears to be an old site (http://www.geocities.ws/jadewahoo/NEST.html) under the "Gregg Gregory" name.  I guess "Jade Wa'hoo" sounds more "shamanic" than "Gregg".  He likes to drive fast.

If you haven't seen it, the guy wrote an article entitled "The Abuse Epidemic" (http://www.ps-magazine.com/artman/publish/article_551.shtml) that borders on laughable, both for content and amateurish prose.
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When one person perpetrates abuse upon another there is far more going on than meets the eye. In addition to the trauma of having been violated, there is the transfer of an entity, a Spiritual Parasite, from the perpetrator to the person who has been violated. . . .  they are a very real presence, not simply a psychological/emotional effect of the trauma itself.

I think he's watched "The Exorcist" a few too many times.

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There is Help!

Now, why did I think there would be?  I bet it involves him.

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Because these entities are not 'energetic' in nature they cannot be treated by typical energy healings and therapy (those these modalities are very beneficial in assisting the person to cope with or alleviate the symptoms of abuse). By entreating of these Spiritual Parasites with the ancient methods available to the Shaman, the invasive entities that have taken up residence in the abused person can be permanently removed.

I knew it.

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This leaves the person with one thing: Freedom

And an empty wallet.

BTW, check out the page on "Shamanic Healers Arizona (http://www.byregion.net/mainsearch/search/AZ-Healers/mind/Shamanic%20Healers)".  I don't think I've ever before seen that much newage woo in one place.
Title: Re: Jade Wahoo, Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: GB on November 12, 2012, 05:53:22 pm
Sells numerous types of ceremony, around world and regalia.

http://www.shamanic.net/index.php (http://www.shamanic.net/index.php)

Numerous websites, *see screenshot of google search.

hangs out on forum called "http://www.radioparadise.com/rp_2.php#name=Forums&file=showtopic&topic_id=22519&x=3480755 (http://www.radioparadise.com/rp_2.php#name=Forums&file=showtopic&topic_id=22519&x=3480755)" *See screenshot

Born, raised in Ohio, claiming Mongolian shaman heritiage and other.

Has history of abusing women (predator style), taking advantage of and their children.





Title: Re: Jade Wahoo, Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: GB on November 12, 2012, 06:28:10 pm
Sells video of himself doing ceremony
and other items

articles he writes about travels he's done to perform ceremony, Costa Rica, south America, Scotland and Ireland
Title: Greg Gregory AKA Jade Wahoo AKA Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: educatedindian on November 12, 2012, 09:25:29 pm
Merged the threads on him to have all information in one place.

Also moved him to Frauds. As a longtime ceremony seller and obvious fake, a pretty easy one to spot.

There's also a thread in Archives, along with discussion of a franchisee of his who tried to infiltrate nafps, Nicholas Spence.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=29.msg56#msg56
Title: Re: Greg Gregory AKA Jade Wahoo AKA Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: Epiphany on February 16, 2013, 09:29:29 pm
He is Gregg Kenneth Gregory, parents both from Ohio:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=25475140 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=25475140)

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=28305050 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=28305050)

 
Title: Re: Greg Gregory AKA Jade Wahoo AKA Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: seapup on August 15, 2014, 06:05:53 am
I've never met the man, but was curious about Jade Wahoo Grigori as I saw a video of him on YouTube playing his double sided drum. He claimed to be of mongol shamanic heritage in the video although I'm not so sure the double sided drum he plays is a mongol style shamanic drum as I seem to remember them as being different, but I'm no expert. I saw he was doing ayahuasca trips to I think South America, but I don't know how much he was charging. I was curious as when I added the video of him playing the drum to a playlist on shamanic drumming I was sent a message saying he was the local "shaman" and told he was in Arizona in a place near Sedona. I thought maybe he was authentic, but after reading how he's changed his name several times I can cross him off my list of people I may want to visit. He moved to Costa Rica recently and it appears he still comes to the mainland US every so often. He is still doing his thing in Costa Rica. I guess cheaper to live in Costa Rica and out of the view of American authorities. As I have never had dealings with the man I can't say if he has any shamanic juice or what, but since when do mongols use ayahuasca for the shamanic journey? I respect the people who have used such drugs as part of their heritage, but if it is not your heritage in my mind you have no relation with the sacred plant. I have not been able to find the shamanic.net website, maybe it's no longer up, but I found these with by Jade: http://www.allthingshealing.com/Shamanism/Spiritual-Parasite-A-Shamanic-Perspective-Of-Abuse-And-Its-Treatment/9295#.U-2iQvldWa8 and this one from something called the Satya Center: http://www.satyacenter.com/services-alt_healer-jade-wahoo-grigori
Title: Re: Greg Gregory AKA Jade Wahoo AKA Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: Epiphany on August 15, 2014, 04:20:53 pm
Some of his past shamanic.net site can be found here: https://web.archive.org/web/20040328081649/http://shamanic.net/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20040328081649/http://shamanic.net/) Other captures of the site can be found by clicking around on the top bar on that page.
Title: Re: Greg Gregory AKA Jade Wahoo AKA Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: milehighsalute on August 25, 2014, 11:03:09 pm
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130812170459AAWSgpc and also be sure to check out his "appreciation song".....especially the end.....its a good laugh
Title: Re: Greg Gregory AKA Jade Wahoo AKA Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: seapup on September 04, 2014, 12:16:14 am
I saw something by Jade Wahoo Grigori Shamanic.net is down and he will have a new website up soon. He also said he had a heart problems/surgery lately and had gotten 28K in donations toward his medical expenses. He was asking for donations for his son who was arrested, I'm not sure for what. Then he was back in the mainland US. Not sure if he returned for a short time to get further medical treatment. Not sure Jade is still doing ayahuasca trips in Costa Rica where he now resides. Interested to see what his new website will have on it. Makes you wonder why he had to take down shamanic.net. He could have just gotten it updated.
Title: Re: Greg Gregory AKA Jade Wahoo AKA Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: Piff on August 12, 2017, 03:00:58 am
He is still active.

For $222 he will "journey through the Eclipse Portals on your behalf!" ... ( on the upcoming solar eclipse).

http://www.shamanic.net/the-great-american-eclipse/

According to his Facebook page, he currently lives in Palm Springs, CA.
Title: Re: Greg Gregory AKA Jade Wahoo AKA Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: Piff on August 13, 2017, 03:28:33 pm
Gregg Gregory's paternal grandparents are from Romania and Hungary. Their surnames were Gregori (or a variation of that) and Schuller. They settled in Ohio.

Gregg Gregory's father https://web.archive.org/web/20170813150748/https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=28305050

Gregg's paternal grandparents https://web.archive.org/web/20170813150849/https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=77729582
https://web.archive.org/web/20170813150953/https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=77702921

photo of the couple https://web.archive.org/web/20170813151216/https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=77702921&PIpi=104865494

I archived all these links in case the current ones go down.

I've uploaded his paternal grandfather's draft registration, which includes place of birth.
Title: Re: Greg Gregory AKA Jade Wahoo AKA Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: Sparks on May 08, 2020, 12:48:36 am
He is still active. For $222 he will "journey through the Eclipse Portals on your behalf!" ... ( on the upcoming solar eclipse).

http://www.shamanic.net/the-great-american-eclipse/

According to his Facebook page, he currently lives in Palm Springs, CA.

The link redirects here: https://jadegrigori.com/the-great-american-eclipse/

So this is his new homepage, then: https://jadegrigori.com/  [© 2020 Jade Grigori.]

This is his Facebook profile: https://www.facebook.com/jadewahoo — Active up to this day.
Title: Re: Greg Gregory AKA Jade Wahoo AKA Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: Ronio on February 21, 2021, 03:53:30 pm
Yes I know Jade. Have spent time with him in sacred camp circles and in Costa Rica as well as a number of shamanic ceremonies. As far as I am concerned he is definitely a legitimate shaman. I wonder where the evidence is for anyone who is claiming otherwise. To my way of thinking his expression of what he calls "the ways" is much more authentic than some of the new agey stuff from Harner and company, but to each his own. I have never seen anything that would justify saying that he 'preys' on anyone.
Title: Re: Greg Gregory AKA Jade Wahoo AKA Jade Wah'oo Grigori, Shamanic.net
Post by: educatedindian on February 21, 2021, 05:30:07 pm
Yes I know Jade. Have spent time with him in sacred camp circles and in Costa Rica as well as a number of shamanic ceremonies. As far as I am concerned he is definitely a legitimate shaman. I wonder where the evidence is for anyone who is claiming otherwise. To my way of thinking his expression of what he calls "the ways" is much more authentic than some of the new agey stuff from Harner and company, but to each his own. I have never seen anything that would justify saying that he 'preys' on anyone.

Actually, you know Greg. He lied to you even when he told you his name and what he is. "As far as you are concerned" means nothing, since you know so little, you fell for him.

You fell for an obvious white American from Ohio, with Hungarian immigrant parents, pretending to be Mongolian and Native and trained by them. That's like falling for Johnny Depp as Tonto because you think wearing a dead bird on the head is believable.

He preyed upon you when he took advantage of your need for meaning and healing and took your money for phony made up imitations of Native ceremony. If these included sweats or ayahuasca, you were lucky not to be killed, severely injured, or suffer a psychotic episode, because he's not really trained except by other frauds who know as little or respect as little as he does.

I agree with you that Harner is much worse, but that's mostly from peddling his fraud on a larger scale.

You could continue to defend him and look foolish, like someone convinced that Nigerian prince he sent money to is real. One way to redeem yourself would be to tell us more about how you met him and what he claimed to do.