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Lawrence Jones Jr AKA Llywelyn UthyrPendragon & Dozens of Other False Titles
Sparks:
--- Quote from: Sandy S on November 09, 2024, 02:05:53 am ---https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/who-latest-claimant-king-wales-12691188
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There is another article on the same site, the same date, but somewhat earlier:
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/another-american-claims-king-wales-12691166
Link there to his site https://kingdomofwales.wales/ — which has been quoted in previous posts here.
The same goes for https://britons.international/ > https://www.facebook.com/justicefortheBritons/
X (Twitter): https://x.coma/YmeradwrPrydain
YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@RestorationofBritain
In another YouTube channel, four minutes of this pretender's ridiculous and hilarious claims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knzK2zGihxE [The True British Sovereign: Llywelyn Uthyrpendragon's Journey]
--- Quote ---Dive into the epic journey of Llywelyn, a figure rooted in history, prophecy, and defiance. Embracing his ancient name and heritage, Llywelyn's lineage spans British, English, German, Irish, Spanish, Hebrew, and Native American roots. Learn about his steadfast commitment to reclaiming the rightful British crown and the title of Uthyrpendragon. Discover how his military background and degree in Organizational Leadership shape his leadership. Witness Llywelyn's resilience against threats, his rallying cries for unity, and his vision for justice and sovereignty for the Britons. Join us in exploring the rightful heir’s mission to restore dignity and truth.
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educatedindian:
--- Quote from: Sandy S on November 09, 2024, 10:22:56 pm ---
--- Quote ---The Lipan Apache Tribe of the State of Texas recognize him as a Warrior of the Tribe, which is the tribal equivalent of nobility.
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2017 http://web.archive.org/web/20170311102352/http://www.kingdomofwales.wales/tywysog-llywelyn
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The LAT (It's not called the LAST as he claims) doesn't have federal recognition. They consider themselves Lipan descendants, but AFAIK the only recognized Lipan are on the Mescalero rez and don't recognize the ones in LAT. I didn't find any mention of Jones on the LAT sites.
That archived site is worth quoting from.
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He is formally recognized as;
Ei Uchelder Brenhinol Tywysog Llywelyn Jones, Brenin Cymru
“His Royal Highness Prince Llywelyn, King of Wales”
and the Kingdoms of Brycheiniog, Ceredigion, Deheubarth, Dogfeiling, Dunoding, Dyfed, Ergyng, Glywysing, Gwent, Gwynedd, Gwynllwg, Meirionnydd, Morgannwg, Powys Wenwynwyn, Powys Fadog, Rhos, Rhufoniog, Seisyllwg "dejure"
He is also honored with the titles: Rex Britannorum (King of the Britons), Great King of Britons, King of Wales, King of all the Welsh, Prince of the Welsh, Supporter of the Whole Kingdom of Britons, Chiefest of the Britons “dejure”
Tywysog Llywelyn has been officially recognized as having fons honorum rights for Cymru, and the aforementioned Kingdoms. Which means he is the "fount of honor". He has an internationally recognized and protected legal right to work towards an independent Wales, he also has rights under international law granting him the powers of:
"Ius Imperii" – the right to command a territory.
"Ius Gladii" – the right to control armies.
"Ius Majestatis" – the right to be honoured and respected according with one's regal title.
"Ius Honorum" – the legal right to award titles, merits and virtues.
"Ius Collationis" – the right to confer honours.
"Ius Nobilitandi" – the right to ennoble other persons.
Tywysog Llywelyn is Welsh on his Father's side and Spanish and Native American on his Mother's side. The Lipan Apache Tribe of the State of Texas recognize him as a Warrior of the Tribe, which is the tribal equivalent of nobility. He has attended University for Leadership in San Diego, California where he used his study time and research papers as an opportunity to prepare a case for Welsh independence. He previously served in the United States Marine Corps as an experimental test and evaluation flight engineer before being honorably discharged.
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A USMC flight engineer usually is ranked from sgt to master sgt. It's kind of strange he doesn't mention his rank or how long he served.
Nowhere does he mention who supposedly honored him with these titles and rights. Or why they are in Latin instead of Welsh.
The "University for Leadership" is a degree mill. Its name is deliberately designed to be confused with the USD's School of Leadership and Education Sciences. Why he went there is unclear when he could have gotten a degree with the GI Bill and gotten university credit for his training in the service.
But the most delusional thing he's written is that crypto made him a millionaire.
Sandy S:
I scrolled through several years of his https://www.facebook.com/justicefortheBritons page.
He regularly makes claims of genocide:
--- Quote ---The falsification of British (i.e., Welsh) history is a genocide.
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--- Quote ---the natives still live in the dark areas seen from space today. There is a genocide currently on-going. It started long ago, and it has never stopped.
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--- Quote ---England is slowing killing off the native Britons so that they can be the only 'British' left.
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--- Quote ---Genocide of the native Britons
Deliberately forcing people to live in poverty and creating conditions to prevent them from buying homes and raising families is a part of genocide. No roads, no trains, no affordable housing, and no opportunity to thrive, is all INTENTIONALLY inflicted socioeconomic conditions created by London to kill off the remaining proto-Britons so that England may claim debellatio and terra nullis in Britain.
Greetings,
We represent a non-member UN state and would like to submit documents to the Secretary-General of the United Nations, accepting the terms of the UN Charter, and several other treaties; as well as a formal complaint regarding genocide for review.
Our people can prove that we are the direct continuation of international personality from the ancient Britons (jus sanguinis), according to the de jure British laws (ipso jure). All other parties claiming to be British, and claiming to have a legal right to contract as British are usurpers and have engaged in fraud.
Please let us know what is required to schedule an appointment to deliver the documents in person.
Yours sincerely,
Llywelyn, Brenin y Brythoniaid
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We are supposed to honor him as our leader:
--- Quote ---I'm fighting for the people that have registered for citizenship with my nation. We use the de jure laws and customs, and don't recognise English appropriation of British identity.
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Sandy S:
Lawrence Jones Jr's b.s. reminds me of the sovereign citizen movement in USA, along with white nationalism.
He's a pseudo historican conspiracy monger.
--- Quote ---Cantiaci (sounds like, Kentucky). In America, the state of Kentucky is named for the Kentucky River...
Yet, no one knows why or bothers to question why the river was called Kentucky. Some people suppose native American origin, but provide no evidence. The Coelbren Alphabet is said to been found in this area. Which turns Native American history on its head.
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(discussion of source of word Kentucky https://www.bia.gov/as-ia/opa/online-press-release/origin-names-us-states )
--- Quote ---Olympics, are they Greek? Or were they invented by the ancestors of the Celts, the Titans?
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--- Quote ---Is Madoc son of Uthyr the Quetzalcoatl of the Aztecs?
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--- Quote ---British/Welsh antiquity is true. The world you live in is a lie.
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--- Quote ---Of all the indigenous groups recognised by the United Nations, Celtic is not one.
Do you know why?
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Sandy S:
Here is one of his phiosophical mentors:
--- Quote ---Remembering the life and work of Alan Wilson today. The man stood against the establishment to speak the truth and defend the history of the Brits, which the world now calls the Welsh.
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Some of the criticism of Alan Wilson:
--- Quote ---I don't claim that the British don't know their own history - I claim that a
mentally-challenged, slightly psychotic, practitioner of forgery named Alan
Wilson doesn't know British history - therefore he makes up his own fantasy
version of it.
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https://groups.google.com/g/alt.legend.king-arthur/c/ZzLfE6ovOqM?pli=1
--- Quote ---Quite frankly Wilson and Blackett, like Adrian Gilbert, are seekers after what they call suppressed knowledge, investigating “ancient Esoteric knowledge and religious Mysteries”: in other words, they are conspiracy theorists.
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https://calmgrove.wordpress.com/2020/07/02/unreadable/
I can't really tell how much money he is making off this or how large his following is. He is productive online, active. He spreads misinformation. And surely is annoying to the government agencies he files claims of genocide etc. with. Welsh citizens aren't thrilled with him either.
The "Tywysog" he uses in his many names = "Prince". "Cymru" = "Wales".
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