Author Topic: Gary Adler AKA Gary FourStar & Many Horses Foundation  (Read 60981 times)

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Gary Adler AKA Gary FourStar & Many Horses Foundation
« on: February 09, 2005, 05:47:33 pm »
Sweat Lodge Workshop


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Enota invites you to attend


"A Day of Discovery"
Teachings on: The Initi (Sweat Lodge)


Weekend Workshop February 11 & 12
Finding your own way through Ceremony
Sacred symbology of the Lodge
Power through Sacred Song
Power of the Purification Lodge


Recognition of Differences in Tribal ways


The weekend will include the proper way to create relationship in
Natural Ceremony, collect Grandfathers (rocks), the gathering of the
willows, the sacred herbs, building the lodge and in depth
participation in Initi preparations.


With: GARY FOURSTAR, Assiniboine and Ohlone lineage, Wadopena,
Thunderbird Clan, Sun Dancer, Lodge Keeper, Pipe Carrier, Leader and
Keeper of the Spirit Animal Dance, Spiritual advisor and holder of
healing knowledge through the Earth Peoples perspective.


Workshop and lodging Fee: $200 includes 5 meals and two nights lodging
at Enota


Ceremony is separate from the workshop and there is no charge for any
ceremonies conducted by Gary


Workshop: Friday night February 11th 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. & all day
Saturday February 12th


Call 800.990.8869 to sign-up for the workshop or reserve a space for
the sweat lodge ceremony
Initi Ceremony will begin at 5:00 pm on Saturday, Feb 12th at Enota.


Please remember that ceremony is open to all and that there is no
charge for the ceremony, only the $10 Enota (www.enota.com) Membership
fee.


SWEAT LODGE PREPARATION & PROTOCOL
CLOTHES - it is traditional to wear clothing during the ceremony. Men
usually wear shorts and women traditionally wear a cotton shift or
something appropriately modest. Shoes are not worn inside the Lodge.
Jewelry generally is not worn due to the heat. It's a good idea to
bring a towel to sit on while inside the Lodge. Showers or hoses may be
available after the ceremony.


Your help in covering the Lodge with blankets and then uncovering the
Lodge after the ceremony is greatly appreciated.


Part of the Purification Ceremony is the meal afterwards; it is
traditional for those attending to bring food to share and to help set
up and clean up after the feast.


While walking around the grounds before the ceremony, please do not
walk between the fire and the Lodge.


You are welcome to participate in the Songs and Ceremonies that are
experienced in this sacred ceremony. However, please be aware that
these Songs and Ceremonies belong to this Lodge and should stay with
this Lodge. Please do not take them elsewhere.


Women who are on their moontime (menstrual cycle) cannot enter the
Lodge. Please seek out one of the women and ask her to explain. Women
who are on their moontime are also asked to stand far back from the
fire, the Lodge area, and any Medicine or Ceremonial objects.


In these ways it is customary to help the leader of the ceremony (the
water pourer) cover any expenses that may have been incurred or help
him/her on their journey. One gives what one considers or perceives is
the value of what one receives from the ceremony; but there is never a
charge for ceremonies.


Donations of wood or blankets are always appreciated.


If you have any questions about what you see, please don't hesitate to
ask someone. You may notice several people tending the fire. These are
"fire keepers" and may help answer any questions you may have. If you
are a first time visitor, there will be an individual who will greet
you and you may ask questions of this person as well.


Enota Mountain Retreat


1000 Highway 180


Hiawassee Georgia 30546


1-800-990-8869


www.enota.com
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Re: sweat lodge workshop?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2005, 09:12:12 pm »
Gary Adler Fourstar strikes me as a borderline person. I don't know if he really is Ohlone and Assiniboine, but at least one of the groups he associates with is questionable.

The XAT Medicine Society he's part of is listed alongside the Bear Tribe and Michael Harner's bunch as selling how2B NDN workshops.
http://www.skepticfiles.org/mys4/shamanra.htm

I notice one of the elders he name drops is Corbin Harney. Harney is as good a man as they come, but he's willing to work with twinks. My guess is Adler may be along that line himself, not a fraud ir ceremony seller but willing to pander to twinks with his workshops.

I just think offering a how to workshop for sweats is always asking for trouble.

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Re: sweat lodge workshop?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2005, 11:53:05 pm »
I used to know some Assiniboine Four Stars. But that doesn't mean that guy is one of them. The whole think reeks. How could a good person allow themselves to do this for twinks? :(

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Re: sweat lodge workshop?
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2007, 12:26:48 am »
Could you elaborate, "the whole thing reeks" and what are twinks. Ive met Gary and I think he is a used carsalesman that doesnt want to work.

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2007, 09:27:38 pm »
Eagle, There are many explanations of the term "Twink" or "Twinkie" on the Internet. Here is only one site. Basically they are essentially the same, some more elaborate in explanation. http://www.geocities.com/planettwinkie/Whatls.html       frederica

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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2007, 01:12:13 am »
Are twinks gays. Couldnt someone just tell me! I would like to know more about Gary Fourstar. There was a mysterious fire at his home recently. A motorhome burned in his driveway.

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Re: sweat lodge workshop?
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2007, 03:33:18 am »
Twinkie= a wannabe  generally someone who has a fantasy notion about Indians. Are they gay? Some are no doub t, but this term is not a sexual reference of any kind.

As for my statement that it reeks. Well, gee, it stinksd. Smells like something phony to me. Just my opinion.

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Re: sweat lodge workshop?
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2007, 07:51:51 pm »
Looking for info on Gary Four Star, I found he makes several claims to be the CEO of The United Tribal Alliance. Well here's their webpage, what do you think?

http://www.theuta.org/

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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2007, 07:59:55 pm »
I found this about Fourstar:

"Gary has been designated as Treaties Chief by the United Tribal Alliance,  as a spiritual advisor to Native Americans in State Prisons in Tennessee, Georgia, California and Alabama by the XAT medicine society . "

I had friends who were involved with XAT Medicine Society. They turned their backs on it when it got pretty nuagey.

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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2007, 12:23:39 am »
gary adler fourstar .. and UTA ..
http://www.manyhorses.org/
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http://maorinews.com/scams/kohuiarau.htm
11 April 2001
For some time now we have been researching the existence of the shadowy United Tribal Alliance that Mary Forbes has been quoting as the source of future funding for Kohuiarau. Our sources among the Native Americans have advised that they had not heard of it, and that it would almost certainly be a scam.
UTA now has a website at http://www.theuta.com
If you look at http://www.theuta.com/Pages/trade.html you will see that they repeat the Kohuiarau fabricated history. A close look at their other claims strongly indicates a fraudulent organisation.
In this document http://www.theuta.com/Images/treaties/doc1.jpg the demented James Ngatoa, self-styled Taiopuru of Kohuiarau, claims direct genealogical lines back to the Greek, Alexander the Great.
In this one http://www.theuta.com/Images/treaties/doc3.jpg he claims Kohuiarau linkage with the great Genghis Khan and the Emperors of China.
http://www.theuta.com/Images/treaties/doc4.jpg for more of the same - England, France, Morocco, Tahiti, Tonga, Afghanistan
http://www.theuta.com/Images/treaties/doc5.jpg for the fabricated GAT trade agreement.
http://www.theuta.com/Pages/treatie.html these fabulous documents go on and on.
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SWEAT LODGE FACILITATORS
Gary Adler FourStar is currently the President of the Many Horses Foundation (www.manyhorses.org) an organization dedicated to the elders, the children, the earth, wild horses and earth cultures and teachings.
Gary is an enrolled member of the Costanoan-Rumsen Carmel Tribe (Ohlone), and the son of Jerome FourStar, an Assiniboine Elder from the Fort Peck Reservation in Montana. He was adopted out at birth and raised in California. Gary has been fortunate to have lived, studied and worked with many Elders of several nations throughout the United States and Canada, as well as with his father, Jerome. Gary is recognized as a ceremonial leader, spiritual advisor, healer and teacher throughout the country.
Gary conducts seminars and experiential workshops on creating balance and relationships through the Earth People's perspective. He is a Lodge Keeper, Sun Dancer and Pipe Holder. He is part of, and actively participates in the Native American Elders and Youth Council of North America. He helped organize and participated in leading the SOS (Save Our Sovereignty) walk in California in 1998 with Spiritual Leader Robert John Knapp. He has lectured throughout the U.S. including the Universities of Santa Barbara, UCLA, University of LaVerne,  Georgia Southern University and at USC.
Gary has been designated as Treaties Chief by the United Tribal Alliance,  as a spiritual advisor to Native Americans in State Prisons in Tennessee, Georgia, California and Alabama by the XAT medicine society. He has worked with the California Native American Spiritual Commission, bringing ceremony and counseling to Native American prisoners in State and Federal correctional facilities and with the California Youth Authority. Formerly, he was Project Director and co-creator of the International Wilderness Leadership Foundation's TOUCH THE EARTH program, co-founded the Flowering Tree Foundation, and was Executive Director of the International Society for the Protection of Wild Mustangs and Burros.
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http://www.costanoanrumsen.org/
web site for the tribe he is an “enrolled member of???
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in his two web sites .. (manyhorses and theuta) he lists, in his bio,  quite a few orgs that he claims to be affiliated with ..

as far as i could find .. the following orgs do not exist, at least there is no internet references to them .. ..
Native American Elders and Youth Council of North America
California Native American Spiritual Commission
Flowering Tree Foundation
International Society for the Protection of Wild Mustangs and Burros

in the rest of the organizations he lists as being an organizer, director and/or participant of .. none of them have him listed as being part of their orgs .. 

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Re: sweat lodge workshop?
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2007, 01:18:57 am »
Tachia, could you explain for us what Kohuiarau and Taiopuru mean?

James Ngotoa sounds very much like the Cherokee "Emperor" many of us are familar with, but do you have any other links on him?

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Re: sweat lodge workshop?
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2007, 03:37:13 am »
both words are Maori.. the best defining source i came up with was this one ..
source: http://www.digitalus.co.nz/mokomokai/kohuiarau.html
Kohuiarau: While the Maori name for the UNITED TRIBES is often spelt KO HUIARAU, it is correctly KOHUIAROA or KOHUIARAU, both of which can be defined as a gathering at large and a gathering who are tied together.
as far as i can discern .. Taiopuru: from what i could discern, indicates some sort of hereditary lineage of headman or chief .. ..

i am not very familiar with the Maori .. the Maori kept coming up in the research on UTA .. with UTA being called a scam by the Maori .. .. so i included that info .. the info i included is from a scam alert in the archives of the Maori news online: http://maorinews.com/karere/ .. from 2001 .. http://maorinews.com/scams/ .. titled: Ko Huiarau cult .. ..
i just thought it important to note that as far back as 2001 and as far away as NZ .. there have been problems and apparent scams naming the UTA .. the “ko huiarau cult??? and the UTA are linked repeatedly .. and the “ko huiarau cult??? is/was? a pretty big problem in NZ, and the Maori people seem adamant about fighting this “cult???  .. here is another website dealing with it: http://maorinews.com/putatara/puta_037.htm

i cannot find anything more recent than 2001 so apparently the Maori have solved this particular “problem??? .. ..

as far as James Ngotoa .. i could not find anything on him other than as is mentioned .. that he is “demented??? etc .. and the links from that article do not work as “theuta.com, became theuta.org ..

hope this helps and sorry if including that bit about the Maori caused any confusion .. ..

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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2007, 01:21:03 am »
When I click in the uta links  to read , it says the the uta.com domain is for sale. The UTA site has no names, no phone numbers no address. I emailed the president and have yet to recieve a response. I cant find very much about the united tribal alliance on the web.

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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2007, 10:11:45 pm »
Gary Adler Fourstar claims he part of and actively participates in the Native american elders and youth council of north america. I cannot find any such organazation. I contacted the Office for American indian, Alaskan Native and Native Hawaiian Programs, in Washington DC.They have not heard of any such organazation.

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Re: sweat lodge workshop?
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2007, 02:52:45 am »
Most likely fantasies in his head. Kinda like Lynn Andrewes claims about the "Sisterhood of the Sheilds."