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Naomi Archer - "Ana Oian Amets, Ana Oihan Ametsa" - Awakening the Horse People
Thyme4Mind:
I hope its OK that I post here, understanding that right now I'm not so popular round these parts...
I looked around and from what I could tell this resource has not been shared here before. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
This is a fantastic resource for non-ndn folks who would like to work as effective allies. There's a ton of information here and it is constantly updated, but it's well worth looking through for any non-ndn folks here. -- https://unsettlingamerica.wordpress.com/
This is their page specifically for allies, and how to avoid some of the many pitfalls that so called "allies" often fall into: https://unsettlingamerica.wordpress.com/allyship/
Lots of .pdfs here and other good content as well.
RedRightHand:
--- Quote from: Praxis on April 23, 2015, 04:48:10 pm ---I hope its OK that I post here, understanding that right now I'm not so popular round these parts...
I looked around and from what I could tell this resource has not been shared here before. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
This is a fantastic resource for non-ndn folks who would like to work as effective allies. There's a ton of information here and it is constantly updated, but it's well worth looking through for any non-ndn folks here. -- https://unsettlingamerica.wordpress.com/
This is their page specifically for allies, and how to avoid some of the many pitfalls that so called "allies" often fall into: https://unsettlingamerica.wordpress.com/allyship/
Lots of .pdfs here and other good content as well.
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There's a reason we don't link to that site. It's run by a fraud: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2278.0
Thyme4Mind:
--- Quote from: RedRightHand on April 23, 2015, 09:42:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: Praxis on April 23, 2015, 04:48:10 pm ---I hope its OK that I post here, understanding that right now I'm not so popular round these parts...
I looked around and from what I could tell this resource has not been shared here before. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
This is a fantastic resource for non-ndn folks who would like to work as effective allies. There's a ton of information here and it is constantly updated, but it's well worth looking through for any non-ndn folks here. -- https://unsettlingamerica.wordpress.com/
This is their page specifically for allies, and how to avoid some of the many pitfalls that so called "allies" often fall into: https://unsettlingamerica.wordpress.com/allyship/
Lots of .pdfs here and other good content as well.
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There's a reason we don't link to that site. It's run by a fraud: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=2278.0
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Thanks, I was completely unaware of this and will most certainly not be referring anyone to this website. My mistake. :-X
Kara_H:
Hi, I said in my intro I would post about Naomi and this looks like the most recently active spot, so ...
Her group (four directions) came to my attention years ago but it was something quickly forgotten since I had a lot going on at the time. They came to a trans conference I was at and I was confused that what they were doing seemed a bit different than usual (not that that is unusual in pagan circles, we are hardly monolithic). An older transwoman told me they based their stuff on native american things rather than european things and a lot of trans people went to their camp as a rite of passage.
Most neopagans try to follow the traditions of their home cultures. While I have no doubt my wicca circle at the time was slightly influenced by native american traditions (although 99.999999999% seems not to have been) that is because it was the culmination of the family tradition of our high priestess and their family claims native blood. In our circle we each 'work' with various deities. Usually with one pantheon however I decided to draw from all I derive from (plus one heavily referenced in the trans world). Ilmarinen (Finland), Brigit (Ireland), Odin (Denmark) and Cybele.
Jump forward a few years. During Occupy I went to an event on native american issues. The person speaking at it (in Lakota no less and claiming it as the language of her people) was obviously caucasian. A bit confusing but I thought she must have a lot of european ancestry. After they left I did some digging and was a bit .... surprised ... at what I found.
I realized when I met her that she was transgendered. From the web I saw she used two spirit two identify herself. Now, by both of us being trans, she had strayed into something I decided to call her on. Even when I used to hang out on a native/european educational space in a virtual world with people knowing I was trans I knew to refuse to use the term for myself (not even getting a virtual tee that used the words) because I was not part of the culture it came from.
After I sent the following message on facebook about just one part of what she was doing and she never replied.
'Naomi-
I am writing to you because I found it awkward not to do so. As a caucasian transwoman I felt an obligation to write this as well.
I would be extremely interested to know why you are trying to claim the term "two spirit". Since you are of european ancestry then what you are doing is cultural appropriation.
Is it because you are transgendered? Well, so am I. I would never try to appropriate someone else's term though.
Is it because you have native american friends? Well, so do I. I would never try to appropriate someone else's term though.
Is it because you lend your assistance to native american organizations? Well, so do I. I would never try to appropriate someone else's term though.
Is it because you admire native americans? Well, so do I. I would never try to appropriate someone else's term though.
Is it because you know some of the Lakota language? Well, so do I. I would never try to appropriate someone else's term though.
Is it because you know native american cultural topics? Well, so do I. I would never try to appropriate someone else's term though.
The only thing I can puzzle out is your claim to have gotten those rights by being adopted by a native american individual. It is my understanding that adoption by a tribe is not the same thing as adoption by an individual. Notice my wording: 'my understanding' not 'direct knowledge'. No matter how much either of us study the culture we are both doing so from the outside rather than the inside and it would be dishonest to claim otherwise.'
Epiphany:
--- Quote ---Ana Oian Amets
July 7 at 2:57pm · Edited ·
Friends, I am reaching out to you. I, along with my brother Canupa, are facing a very coordinated set of attacks by provocateurs who we suspect being agents of the US Govt in advance of efforts to assert (revolutionary) sovereign jurisdiction over Lakota Territory. Towards me, these are attacks on my credibility as an individual with integrity and the activist work I've given over these 20 years. Because I am a person of integrity - these attacks are the same old worn out half truths and lies that have been used before but the intensity and organization of the attacks is considerable. I could use the support, legal support, and well wishes facing the State who are using the exact methods described in the attached article by Glenn Greenwald.
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1036030243074783&id=100000034516320
--- Quote ---Creating a Facebook kangaroo court, barraging individuals with every internet slander piece they can find, and asking an Indigenous knowledge keeper who does not even use a computer to defend himself and his actions on social media is not someone in search of the truth - it's someone intent on destruction.
Denying someone their traditional name, attacking the historical validity of an ancient warrior society title given by elders of the late 1800s and early 1900s, and basically denigrating the traditional indigeneity of an individual is extremely violent. There is nothing "Native" about these kinds of attacks. There is no face to face meeting. There is no real accounting. No long meetings to come to understanding about the truth spoken in actual language (not english) No. This is colonialism and white american injustice. It doesn't matter who is doing it - it's the WAY its being done that matters.
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1035446719799802&id=100000034516320
Focusing on Naomi Archer only, as in this part:
--- Quote ---Towards me, these are attacks on my credibility as an individual with integrity and the activist work I've given over these 20 years. Because I am a person of integrity - these attacks are the same old worn out half truths and lies that have been used before but the intensity and organization of the attacks is considerable.
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...ideally she would see that criticism is not the same as persecution. Kara_H's work is not an attack, nor is anything else on this thread. Why should Ms. Archer be immune from criticism?
One of the signs of a possible unsafe leader: "No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry." http://www.culteducation.com/warningsigns.html
When a potentially unsafe leader claims persecution - it is time to get away from them.
The group she is part of may very well be watched by the feds, it is classified as a sovereign citizen group by the FBI domestic terrorism unit, at least according to a document she has uploaded to FB. Obviously that does not mean that all criticism of her is orchestrated by the feds.
There are honest questions and concerns here and also expressed elsewhere online.
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