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General => Frauds => Topic started by: Cat on August 05, 2008, 07:22:07 pm

Title: Phil Landis & Nemenhah Band, an Oklehueva or ONAC chapter
Post by: Cat on August 05, 2008, 07:22:07 pm
http://www.thenativehealer. com/
You have found the training program for Medicine Men and Medicine Women, Traditional Spiritual Leaders, Shahaptian Guides, Shahaptian Carriers (Healers), Shahaptian Shirts, and Native American Practitioners of the

 
Nemenhah Band and Native American Traditional Organization (Oklevueha Native American Church of Sanpete).

 

Note:  The Band was formerly named "Numi'Pu Tsu'Peli Chopunish", but out of respect for the Nez Perce Tribe (who objected to our use of these names), we have changed it to the above.  The Oklevueh Native American Church Of Utah (Chief Fool Bull Blessing and Chief Richard 'He Who Has The Foundation' Swallow Blessing - Rosebud NAC) recognized the Nemenhah as the Oklevueha Native American Church of Sanpete.

 

 

Warning to internet surfers:  There are hundreds of Native American Religious Traditions.  We respect and honor them all and that is why we do not publish the ceremonies of other traditions in our educational modules.  All sacred healing and ceremony in any of our modules comes from tradition that is purely Nemenhah and is derived from no other tradition.  If the Native American Tradition to which you ascribe requires you to keep all that is sacred to you secret, this website might be offensive to you.  Please stop reading now and go somewhere else!  We respect your opinion and wish no offense, but that is just as plain as we can get.  This site has to do with the training of Medicine Men and Women of the Nemenhah Band and no one else.  If you are offended that we wish to train our Spiritual Leaders in a manner that is different than yours, we would hope that you will have the courtesy of allowing us our way of thinking.

 

Additionally, we believe that it is appropriate to support our religion with Thank Offerings, in fact, we require our members to do so prayerfully.  We use whatever medium of offering our members see fit and appropriate.  We do not charge for services or ceremony, but we do gratefully accept the generous offerings of our members.  If that is offensive to you, you should seek some other path.

 

The Nemenhah Program NAC, Inc. is a Seminary of the Nemenhah Church. Any use of the term "Pay" or "Payment" is in reference to DONATIONS and OFFERINGS and should not be confused with any type of commerce.

 

Plainly put, the Nemenhah follow a tradition that believes in teaching Sacred Healing Ceremony to all people of good intent.  It is an ancient tradition derived from ancient records of our people which we hold to be of great value to us and the basis for our organization.  We do not derive our teachings from any other Tribe or Band and, if the teachings of other Tribes or Bands ever find their way on this site, it will only be because such inclusion has received the approval of those Tribes and Bands.

 

Warning to Dogmatists:  If you are of that set of people who believe that Spiritual Enlightenment and Progress can only be achieved through your own way of doing things, if you believe that there is but one true religion and that religion is yours, then this site may be offensive to you.  Native American Religion has been called many things by many people.  One thing that it is not is Dogmatic.  It is a highly personal thing and relies upon personal revelation from Heavenly Beings.  If you feel you must rely upon some man or woman, or set of people, to determine for you what spirituality is, then this site is not for you. 

 

Fundamental to Native American Religion is the concept of Emergence.  To emerge is to progress.  Therefore, emergence from a condition of illness into a condition of wellness is just as much part of the religion as emergence from a condition of sin into a condition of righteousness.  All Native American Ceremony has for its purpose this principle of Emergence.  Our Ministers are anxiously engaged in the teaching of this principle.  If you cannot find a place for Emergence in your belief system, then go somewhere else.

 

 

 
If you can declare in your heart and to the world that natural healing is part of your spiritual orientation and faith, this program is for you!


 
This program is provided only to the duly adopted members of the Nemenhah Band and Traditional Organization and is OFFERING BASED.  The application for Spiritual Adoption may be downloaded or you may enter you data on this site.  The application asks for a Suggested offering is $145 for the first year,each additional year is a $55 suggested offering.

 
.  All Donations are non-refundable.
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: Spaewife on August 05, 2008, 11:14:46 pm
http://www.thenativehealer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=166&Itemid=108

Band Elders

            The Elders are Members of the Band, by the Ancient Tradition of Adoption in the case of those whose lineage is uncertain, or by recognition of the Band in the case of those whose lineage is certain, who have been appointed to positions within the governing structure of the Band, or whom the EPMC has recognized by permanent honorarium.  Such Elders currently include Phillip (Cloudpiler) Landis, Hon. Benjamin Zvenia, Jasmine Hisha, Ray (White Bear) Mendenhall, James F.E. Mooney, Chief Gary Tom, Kari (Bunched Lightning) Scott, Chief Robert Sunhawk, Semisi (Fears No Wind) Tukuafu, His Excellency Charles McWilliams, Hon. John Campbell, Hon. Norbert Johnson, Hon. Benjamin Anguiera, Hon. Dr. Pinto, and the Lodge Council of the Maka Oyate Sundance Lodge of the Nemenhah.

In any organization that seeks to utilize the protection of legislation that requires recognition of other tribes or bands, Holy Men and Holy Women, and Native American Traditional Organizations, it is mindful and appropriate to obtain for the band members the association and recognition of Elders from such agencies.  It is also good to list them in a foundational document.  Such recognition at the very constitution of the band gives due honor to those important individuals that allow the band to satisfy the dictates of the law.

landis cloudpiler...  http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=mt&vol=00&invol=436

Mooney is the one trying to say he's a tribal member.. and has the right to use Peyote.

Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: Superdog on August 06, 2008, 12:02:53 am
Seems like they've done a little homework.  It's still a pay for pray scam though.  The one way to test it would be to join them and never pay.  See how much "training" happens then. 

So you must be "adopted" to receive training and the training is "offering based".  Not to mention the repeated use of the words "Native American religion" as a selling point.

All red flags.
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on August 06, 2008, 12:47:31 am
This is pretty funny. They're not the only Nuagers calling themselves Nemenhah Band.

I can only hope these two sets of imposters begin accusing each other of being frauds, and hopefully even take each other to court.

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Reverend KenNell is a psychic living and practicing his God given talents in Cassadaga Florida.  He is a Native American Pastor, Medicine Man, and healer of the Nemenhah Band.  A member of the Spiritualist National Union, and ordained by the famous non-denominational Christian teacher and healer, Reverend Willard Fuller.   He is also ordained in the ancient Tibetan Medicine Buddha healing practice.

He is currently available for both group and private psychic sessions in Cassadaga Florida and other locations throughout Central Florida.  If you are unable to visit him at one of his locations, you may choose a psychic phone reading.  Reverend KenNell specializes in helping clients with his gifts as a mystic, psychic, medium, Medicine Man, and healer.  A typical session can consist of a combination of services or a single skill mentioned depending upon your needs. Click here to view all the methods involved with a psychic reading

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Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on August 06, 2008, 01:06:21 am
Mooney's claims get more ludicrous and offensive. The actual NAC says he's not NAC, but he still uses that as part of their "colllege's" title. He and Cloudpiler are not healers or spiritual leaders.

And despite the grandiose claims, their online forum shows a grand total of 50 members, including the usual suspects and the curious.

Look at what else they're peddling.

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http://www.thenativehealer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=13&id=44&Itemid=130

There are certain Sacred Products that the Nemenhah Band considers to be part of the Sacraments of the Sacred Shahaptian Healing Way.  Some of these Sacred Products are available in various forms from companies that have commited to provide them for use by Medicine Men and Medicine Women. 
 
Copal (Essentials Oils) 
Defense 
Native Enzymes 
Native Flora 
pH Rescue 
Rice Plus 
     
For further reading about these ingredients, we suggest the following books, “ Black Cumin, The Magical Egyptian Herb for Allergies, Asthma, and Immune Disorders ,??? by Peter Schleicher, M.D., and Mohamed Saleh, M.D., “ Allicin, The Heart of Garlic ,??? by Peter Josling, and “ Real Answers to Real Question ,??? by Phillip Landis, N.D., Med. Shirt.

Dr. Linus Pauling said, “You can trace every sickness, every disease and every ailment ultimately to a mineral deficiency???. 

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Pauling was a brilliant nuclear physicist (worked on the Manhattan Project) who became a crackpot in later years, claiming everyone needed huge amounts of vitamins.

The articles and sales pitches for their products are written by Bevonne Birch, who is all over the net proclaiming herself a "Native American Medicine Woman", no tribe ever named that I could find, unless you count that "band".

Here's Bevonne, by the photo obviously not a fullblood, more likely a PODIA if she's Native at all.
http://www.essentialhealthseminars.com/EHSContact.htm
 
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on August 06, 2008, 01:21:31 am
That band is a pay to pray scam alright. You have to pay to join and to continue to be a member.

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http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096415228
Barnett, a special projects officer at the Native American Health Center in Oakland, was referring to an e-mail he received by mistake, intended for a company called Native American Nutritionals. From their site he had been lead to another, thenativehealer.com.

There, he found an offer of ''spiritual adoption'' for a $90 donation and $5 in monthly payments by the Nemenhah Band and Native American Traditional Organization of the Oklevueha Native American Church of Sanpete.

The group is an ''independent band'' which offers enrollment in an online college where people can pay to qualify as medicine men or women, healers and Native practitioners, according to their Web site.

Courses range from online lessons in smudging to a six-hour ''Unipi Ceremony Practicum,'' which requires a mentor to ''come to your lodge.''

Each member receives a ''ministerial card'' that is valid as long as they are progressing and ''making regular offerings,'' according to the Web site.

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Another less than credible pair of healers from that "band". Two yuppies playing at being NDN.

http://www.iggygarcia.com/About%20Us.html
"Iggy and Suzi Garcia are  members of the Nemenhah Band and Native American Traditional Organization (NAC) is certified and in good standing of the affore said Native American Church and are Shahaptian Guide Medicine Man and woman.  And as such is authorized to perform all the ordinances pertaining to their calling, including the use of Plants, Animals, Stones, Feathers, and so forth in rites and ceremonies which do pertain to the Tents of the Scared Shahaptian Healing way as restored to the Nemenhah Band by Wyakin and as set forth in the constitution of the Band.  We are members of Journeys way Lodge in Columbus, Ohio.  Sweat lodge Itsipi Leader, Intuitive Life Coaches™, Drum Healing, Drum Circles, Remote Healing, Body Energy Work, Inca Meditation, and Open Chair Gestalt."

Not sure about the reliability of this site, but it says the Nemenhah are from the Book of Mormon.
http://www.greaterthings.com/Records/Nemenhah/index.html
"Records of the Nemenhah
Alleged account of a peaceful people who sailed north with Hagoth, who was mentioned in the Book of Mormon."

This is disturbing. They hope to use their claims to be Native to avoid prosecution if their products don't work or harm people.

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http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=83663
Rumor Mill News Reading Room Archive

DON'T FEAR CODEX - THE NEMENHAH NATIVE AMERICAN CLAN CAN ADOPT YOU

Posted By: Rayelan <Send E-Mail>
Date: Thursday, 29 December 2005, 10:34 p.m.

In Response To: SAVE DR HULDA CLARK!!! (Freedom4ever) I don't fully understand all of this, but I am going to do my best to explain it as far I understand it.

I'm part Cherokee and I am going to do what I must to become part of the Cherokee nation or of a cousin clan like the Nemenhah.

Cloudpiler, a grandson of Chief Joseph, the great Nez Perce Chief and others who are part of Native American Nutritionals became recognized Native American Practitioners by seeking adoption into the Nemenhah Band and Native American Traditional Organization.

As Shahaptian Guides, they gained a valuable connection with the Holistic Principle of Native American Healing... as well as a legal safety net where natural healing is concerned.

You can read more about this on their webpage... the long and short of it goes like this:

By becoming Native American Practitioners, they (or YOU or anyone who gets adopted) qualify under the protections and exemptions provided by the Federal Native American Free Exercise of Religion Act of 1993 (NAFERA).

This Act of Congress was passed almost unanimously by both houses of legislature in Washington, D.C. The Act protects the Spiritual Path of Native Americans and their Traditional Spiritual Leaders.

NAFERA dictates that "no laws or statutes may be enacted that tend to regulate the establishment of Native American Religions or the free exercise thereof."

This makes exclusive licensure laws that have either been passed by, or are presently on the dockets of every state legislature in the country to fall under the NAFERA exemption. It also applies to CAFTA and other trade regulatory statutes!!

The bottom line is this: Native American Practitioners are exempt by definition from such regulatory statutes.

Their Life Path understands that, for the Healer, the relief of suffering comes into spiritual orientation. In fact, Native American Practitioners make no distinction beween Healing and religion!!

Someone needs to tell Dr. Clark that there IS another path she can "adopt".

Here's the link. Please take the time to read more. If you are a healer, then you are practicing your own spirituality. NAFERA gives you the protection you may soon need to continue to use "natural" substances instead of buying pseudo-cures from Big Pharma.

NEMENHAH HOME PAGE

Defense works!!
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on August 06, 2008, 02:13:24 am
Those so called "elders" are quite a bunch. Mooney, Jasmine Hisha, and "Cloudpiler" have already had threads on them.

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"Hon. Benjamin Zvenia"-

http://educate-yourself.org/dc/EFFtargetsuggestions15jan04.shtml
Our own Doc von Peters is still struggling to stay above water economically after the CIA sent Benjamin Zvenia to get onto his Naturopathic College's administrative staff and rob the school blind and otherwise try, on behalf of his handlers, to make Doc's life a living hell. Let's focus on Benjamin, as he still won't let up even though the college is finished. FYI, Benny's got several convictions for crooked real estate deals, did 5 years in a Nevada prison for practicing medicine without a license (okay, I know 99.99% of MDs in the US never get beyond the 'practice' stage, anyway and many of those medical murderers in Nevada should probably have been prison bitches along with Ben ;-), got caught writing bad checks in Nevada and North Carolina and had been booked on attempted theft charges. Doc just found this out. No doubt Benny was given a clean slate and a fabulous resume by his CIA handlers when he was thrown at that school in this fake gov't's long term War on Healers. They probably recruited him in prison. Send Ben your tough love if you feel inclined. We do. Benny typifies how the CIA runs its sabotage campaigns against high-profile people of character like the Doc.

Also http://www.lightharmonics.com/oiucm/speaker_bios/zvenia.htm.
Basically he's done premed and altmed courses before he became a lawyer. Says he's Native (judging by the groups he joins) but no mention of what tribe.

Basically he teaches the "band" members how to use NARFA to avoid prosecution.

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They claim Robert Sunhawk as an elder, but this site says he passed on over a dozen years ago.

http://www.robertsunhawk.com/

Notice that the site also mentions his Cherokee ancestry is distant. Also the Plains warbonnet on an alleged Cherokee medicine man who also sold herbal meds.

This profile shows a Grizzly Adams lookalike as Sunhawk.
http://www.thenativehealer.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=192

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Semisi (Fears No Wind) Tukuafu

http://www.spock.com/Semisi-Tukuafu-NuO6t1NXI
"I am 38.... a Elua Lomilomi Healer (Ancient Hawaiian healing method). I do Massage for clients in the evening supporting my family, and am a member of a Reggae band called Soul Redemption. I play the Trombone (a Brass instrument) in the band and sing background vocals."

The healing method he claims only shows up online in sites that he's on.

Many sites says that lomilomi is just...massage.

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 His Excellency Charles McWilliams-Apparently his title came from the Pope. He runs a health center in the Caribbean island of St Kitts.
http://www.thestkittsnevisobserver.com/jun1308/news8a.htm

So why is one of the "Pope's knights" from St Kitts part of an alleged Native band in Utah?

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Hon. Norbert Johnson- retired, with the same law firm as Zvenia.

Why either Johnson or Zvenia are called "elders" isn't clear. In fact it's not clear for any of them.

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Hon. Benjamin Anguiera- actually spelled Angueira. Runs a seminary in Puerto Rico whose address is a PO box!

http://www.waucglobalaccreditation.org/universities.htm
Universidad y Seminario Apostolico de las Americas Inc - Dr. Benjamin Angueira, President, P.O. Box 3375 San Juan Puerto Rico 00938, university@caribe.net

And that accreditation is not too impressive. Basically they disclaim any responsibility for the colleges listed, and any college can join for 500 bucks.

He also runs Airside Financial Corp in Miami.
http://airsidefinancial.com/

And is listed as an "Ambassador to the Dominion of Melchizidek"! I swear I'm not making that up.
 http://www.melchizedek.com/ambassadors.htm
"Benjamin Angueira
(Caribbean)"

Hey, Caribbean is not a country...

Honorable Dr. Pinto- is also one of the Pope's knights along with McWilliams and Anguiera. 

What can you say....not one of them comes anywhere close to being an elder. Zvenia might be the only NDN in the bunch. Not a single one of them even mentions a tribe. And none of them are actually medicine people.

Perhaps the authorities need to be reminded that NARFA is only supposed to protect NDNs, not imposters.
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: Defend the Sacred on August 06, 2008, 02:50:38 am
Sorry, but I'm still laughing at "Fears No Wind." 

(See http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1644.msg12084 )
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on May 10, 2009, 04:08:40 am
A follower of the Nemenha is refusing to allow their child to be treated for cancer.

Also a reporter would like to speak with anyone of those who commented on this thread, or anyone who knows more about Nemenha and its alleged healers. IM me and I'll pass along contacts.

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http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/44568447.html?elr=KArks:DCiUHc3E7_V_nDaycUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUr
Daniel Hauser has what doctors consider one of the most curable types of cancer, Hodgkin's lymphoma.

But the 13-year-old from Sleepy Eye, Minn. and his parents don't want him to have chemotherapy and radiation, the standard treatments. For the past three months, they have ignored the advice of his cancer specialists and turned to natural therapies, such as herbs and vitamins, instead.

Now they are going to court to defend their decision.

James Olson, the Brown County attorney, has filed a petition accusing Daniel's parents, Colleen and Anthony Hauser, of child neglect and endangerment, and he has asked a judge in New Ulm to order the boy into treatment.

The case, which goes to trial this morning, has quickly turned into a cause celebre in the world of alternative medicine. Last week, supporters packed the courthouse in New Ulm, Minn., for a pretrial hearing, and both sides are bracing for an even a bigger crowd today.

"You can't imagine what kind of outpouring we've gotten here," said Calvin Johnson, a Mankato attorney who is representing Daniel's parents. "There's a lot of feeling on this subject."

Daniel, one of eight children, has asserted that treatment would violate his religious beliefs. The teenager filed an affidavit saying that he is a medicine man and church elder in the Nemenhah, an American Indian religious organization that his parents joined 18 years ago (though they don't claim to be Indians).

"I am opposed to chemotherapy because it is self-destructive and poisonous," he told the court. "I want to live a virtuous life, in the eyes of my creator, not just a long life." He also filed a "spiritual path declaration" that said: "I am a medicine man. Some times we teach, and some times we perform. Now, I am doing both. I will lead by example."
Johnson said Daniel's case has touched a nerve because the state wants to impose a potentially dangerous treatment that neither the boy nor his family believe in. "Why does a doctor have the right to come in with the power of the state and the county attorney by his side and say 'take my medicine?' " he said.

But Olson, the county attorney, says he is trying to protect a child from a decision that could cost him his life.

"If he were 18 years old and made the decision that his parents are making for him, we would not be in court," Olson said. "Since the boy just turned 13 in March, I felt the judge needs to take a look at this and make a decision."

The family declined a request for an interview Thursday.

Danny, as he is known, was first found to have cancer in late January, and his doctors recommended six rounds of chemotherapy and radiation, according to court papers. The disease -- a cancer of the immune cells -- has a 95 percent survival rate for his age group with treatment, according to the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society.

But after one round of chemotherapy, Daniel became so sick that his parents refused to send him for a second treatment. They switched him to an alternative regime of complementary medicine, including dietary changes and "ionized water," Johnson said.

In the meantime, the Hausers asked for second and third opinions from the Mayo Clinic and University of Minnesota. In both cases, the cancer specialists recommended chemotherapy and radiation, said Olson, the county attorney. Without treatment, he said, he was told the boy could die. In April, he filed a petition asking the court to force treatment.

Olson's petition says, in part: "Both the Mayo and Children's doctors have told the parents that Daniel has a 90 percent chance of being cured with standard chemotherapy and radiation, and this would decrease significantly to 50 percent or less if the tumor is allowed to re-grow and develops resistance to chemotherapy.''

"There's a fine line between parental rights to do what parents feel [is] in the best interest of their children, and the state's right," Olson said Thursday. "In this case, we've claimed we have a compelling state interest in protecting this young man."
James S. Turner, a Washington lawyer and natural health advocate, has joined the battle on the Hausers' side.

"Consumers do have the right to choose what kind of approach they want to take on any health question, that's our argument," said Turner, who was one of Ralph Nader's original Nader's Raiders, and now chairs a group called Citizens for Health.

Philip Elbert, a St. Peter attorney who is representing Daniel, agrees. "If a parent is given a choice of two rational choices, you can't just say 'I don't like that choice,'" he said. "We may not agree with the decision, but it's not our decision to make."

The parents have said they were not ruling out chemotherapy completely, and would try it again if the cancer begins to grow, according to court documents. For now, Daniel appears to be doing well, said Johnson.

Olson says he would not have gone to court if the boy had a grim prognosis, "and the parents made a decision that they don't want to put him through chemotherapy." But in this case, he said, "the doctors are telling us that it's 90 percent curable."

In his court papers, though, Daniel sounds defiant. "I claim this, as my right, that no one: No government, No big Brother, No Tribe, No other human being may interfere with my Spiritual Path and my consciousness."
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: NanticokePiney on May 10, 2009, 05:54:27 am
  A "medicine man" at the age of 13???? This is nothing more than a cult that is dangerous to the health and welfare of it's members and because of this cult a child will lose his life. This is upsetting. 
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: tachia on May 10, 2009, 08:27:17 pm
This is pretty funny. They're not the only Nuagers calling themselves Nemenhah Band.

I can only hope these two sets of imposters begin accusing each other of being frauds, and hopefully even take each other to court.

just thought that was particularly relevant for this "thread" .. .. a case of one fraud accusing another .. deflection? .. we see it all the time .. :)

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Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: NanticokePiney on May 10, 2009, 11:02:35 pm
  This thread is about a kid possibly dying because of a "shaman cult". Not Cat Carnes..........
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: tachia on May 10, 2009, 11:25:09 pm
  This thread is about a kid possibly dying because of a "shaman cult". Not Cat Carnes..........

your absolutely right! .. .. i said i was being a brat .. .. yet, underlying all issues are other issues .. perhaps they should be pointed out, perhaps not .. .. 

obviously i thought this to be an important issue for me to post in it and add more information .. sorry, my mind works in weird ways seeing interconnections .. .. .. (shutting up now)
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: Defend the Sacred on May 13, 2009, 12:33:26 am
More press on this, including quotes from Al:

A closer look contains hints of sham artist, not a shaman

By JON TEVLIN, Star Tribune

A boy's life hangs in the balance in New Ulm, Minn., this week as a court decides if he should abide by the advice of prominent doctors or that of a group claiming to be American Indian healers whose website the boy's mother says she "found on the Internet."

read the rest: http://www.startribune.com/local/44755337.html
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: tachia on May 13, 2009, 09:54:10 pm
an interesting blog on this subject .. in the comments section, James Warren ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney is trying to defend nemenhah, himself, etc ..

http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2009/05/11/a-sad-curious-tale-of-rampant-duplicity-and-stupidity/

Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on May 14, 2009, 04:16:10 am
Tevlin contacted me 4 or 5 days ago. Tevlin mentioned finding in his own searches that Landis was convicted of fraud in Montana, grand theft in Idaho, and "something else" in Utah. He wasn't specific on the last one, but I'll ask him and where we can get online proof to post of this.
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: matt e on May 14, 2009, 10:10:57 am
I have heard of alternative healing methods working on certain types of cancer, however these methods (including diet changes) in 99% of the cases i personaly have read about over the years were used AFTER other methods had failed, or were used immediately upon diagnosis, administered by liscened proffessionals, and only affected certain types of cancer.

    It was not long ago that a family who refused to get treatment for thier child who died were charged with a crime for not taking appropriate action ( the disease had a cure rate of 99%). The family choose to rely on faith healing instead of medicine. now they are in jail for criminal neglect.

   While i do believe that people have every right to practice their religion, I also believe that failing to make use of any and all available treatments, especially those that have been proven to be effective is a slight against the One who gave us life. I believe that the creator gave us the ability to learn to treat and find cures for diseases.

    having seen my mother, father and sister, as well as a dear family friend go through chemo, yes it does make you very sick.  by the time my parents and friend got the treatment it was too late as the cancer had spread too much. but my sister is still here due to getting it.

   SO in short- I personaly believe that refusing to accept or get treatment for a disease that is mostly curable  for religious reasons is a slight to the one who gave you life, by saying you would rather die than get a treatment that will allow you to live.
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: Tsu Dho Nimh on May 14, 2009, 05:03:42 pm
This issue is getting a lot of coverage in various science blogs, including one by a surgical oncologist.

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/05/another_child_sacrificing_himself_on_the.php 
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/05/daniel_hauser_and_the_rejection_of_chemo.php

There are others, just search scienceblogs.com for the child's name or the word Nemenhah.

They are spreading the belief that shunning medical treatment in favor of the group's selected therapies is the way Native American beliefs work.
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: Defend the Sacred on May 15, 2009, 11:33:28 pm
Coverage has gone very mainstream now: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_he_me/us_med_forced_chemo

*** *** ***

Judge rules family can't refuse chemo for boy

By AMY FORLITI, Associated Press Writer Amy Forliti, Associated Press Writer   – 2 hrs 54 mins ago

MINNEAPOLIS – A Minnesota judge ruled Friday that a 13-year-old cancer patient must be evaluated by a doctor to determine if the boy would benefit from restarting chemotherapy over his parents' objections.

In a 58-page ruling, Brown County District Judge John Rodenberg found that Daniel Hauser has been "medically neglected" by his parents, Colleen and Anthony Hauser, and was in need of child protection services.

While he allowed Daniel to stay with his parents, the judge gave the Hausers until Tuesday to get an updated chest X-ray for their son and select an oncologist.

read the rest of the article... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_he_me/us_med_forced_chemo)

*** *** ***

Sadly, no overt mention of the fact the group are frauds and not representatives of any authentic Native American nation or healing tradition. But there are lines like:
"The Missouri-based religious group believes in natural healing methods advocated by some American Indians."
and
"Landis said he founded the faith after facing his diagnosis of a cancer similar to Daniel Hauser. He said he treated it with diet choices, visits to a sweat lodge and other natural remedies."

Also, the teaser for this story currently running on Yahoo's main news page reads:
 * 'Medicine man' boy's chemo wishes vetoed (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_he_me/us_med_forced_chemo)

note - all three links are to same article. I have quoted, rather than reprint the article in full, so we don't get into any problems with copyright issues.   
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: Superdog on May 16, 2009, 01:28:53 am
The wheatdogg blog listed above got an interesting comment today from the son of someone defrauded tragically by Landis...

Here's some excerpts...the rest of the letter is there...comment #9

From the wheatdogg blog:
http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2009/05/11/a-sad-curious-tale-of-rampant-duplicity-and-stupidity/
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galigo:
May 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

My mother died because she followed his healing advice instead of receiving medical treatment. Here is a copy of an email I sent the chief. cloudpiler@nemenhah.org

Phil Landis (AKA Cloudpiler),

Thanks to all the publicity you’re receiving from this Daniel Hauser case, I finally caught up to you. I’m sure you’ve wanted to know how things ended up with my mother, Richelle, your neighbor at Parks Place, Hideaway Valley, UT.

If your memory needs refreshed, she had uterine cancer, which is 75% to 95% survivable with appropriate (medical) treatment.

However, you advised her to use your alternative healing methods, which she did.

As you were aware, she became sicker and sicker, as she continued to do what you advised her to do. When I came to visit her, you would disappear.

When she became so sick that she needed 24 hour care, my wife and I brought her to our home in Idaho. Here, we cared for her and loved her until she died.

...................................

I wonder how many other people have died because of what you do.

Does it bother you?

Here’s something you should know: My wife and my dad both had cancer at the same time as my mother. Weird, huh. The thing is, my wife and my dad are still here. Cured by surgery. Perfectly healthy now.

I miss my mom, and every time I think of her slow, painful, rotting, stinking death my heart breaks all over again.

You are not only a fraud, chief, you’re a killer.

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end of quoted material


Heartbreaking and a clear example of how these guys do more harm than just steal money.....
Superdog
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: NanticokePiney on May 16, 2009, 09:57:19 pm
The wheatdogg blog listed above got an interesting comment today from the son of someone defrauded tragically by Landis...

Here's some excerpts...the rest of the letter is there...comment #9

From the wheatdogg blog:
http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2009/05/11/a-sad-curious-tale-of-rampant-duplicity-and-stupidity/
------------------------------------------
galigo:
May 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

My mother died because she followed his healing advice instead of receiving medical treatment. Here is a copy of an email I sent the chief. cloudpiler@nemenhah.org

Phil Landis (AKA Cloudpiler),

Thanks to all the publicity you’re receiving from this Daniel Hauser case, I finally caught up to you. I’m sure you’ve wanted to know how things ended up with my mother, Richelle, your neighbor at Parks Place, Hideaway Valley, UT.

If your memory needs refreshed, she had uterine cancer, which is 75% to 95% survivable with appropriate (medical) treatment.

However, you advised her to use your alternative healing methods, which she did.

As you were aware, she became sicker and sicker, as she continued to do what you advised her to do. When I came to visit her, you would disappear.

When she became so sick that she needed 24 hour care, my wife and I brought her to our home in Idaho. Here, we cared for her and loved her until she died.

...................................

I wonder how many other people have died because of what you do.

Does it bother you?

Here’s something you should know: My wife and my dad both had cancer at the same time as my mother. Weird, huh. The thing is, my wife and my dad are still here. Cured by surgery. Perfectly healthy now.

I miss my mom, and every time I think of her slow, painful, rotting, stinking death my heart breaks all over again.

You are not only a fraud, chief, you’re a killer.

------------------------------------------
end of quoted material


Heartbreaking and a clear example of how these guys do more harm than just steal money.....
Superdog

 This crap should be enough to put Landis in jail for a long time! But it's not, and that's the saddest part of it.........
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on May 26, 2009, 06:39:10 am
It's gotten quite a lot of attention. CNN, NPR, and the AP all asked me for comment, along with some anti cult groups. And this article got on an academic listserv. I bolded a couple points.

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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MO_FORCED_CHEMO_CHURCH_MOOL-?SITE=MOMAR&SECTION=STATE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
May 22, 5:19 PM EDT


Nemenhah leader defends group

By MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER
Associated Press Writer

STOCKTON, Mo. (AP) -- Phillip "Cloudpiler" Landis was raised Mormon in western Washington and didn't think too much about what he considers his American Indian heritage until he went to prison.

"What better place to have to sit and reflect upon what motivates you," he says.

Landis now leads the Nemenhah Band, an Internet-base group recently thrown into the spotlight when one of its far-flung members fled with her cancer-stricken son to avoid chemotherapy.

Landis, 47, has never met Colleen Hauser or 13-year-old Daniel, and urges them to return home. But he supports the Hausers' decision to defy the recommendations of doctors, who "may be the high priests of the medical religion, but who are spiritually bankrupt."

The attention garnered for Landis has some in the field of alternative and complementary medicine concerned. American Indian groups also have expressed misgivings about Landis.

"A lot of people are attaching themselves to the alternative medicine field," said Lorenzo Cohen, director of the Integrative Medicine Program at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. "It does give quote-unquote alternative medicine a bad name."

Cohen said most people seeking alternative therapies usually use them in combination with conventional therapies, like chemotherapy, and that the Hauser case "was particularly tragic" because Daniel has a "very curable pediatric cancer."

Steven Moore, senior attorney for the Native American Rights Fund in Boulder, Colo., was critical of Landis and his group.

"There are a lot of sham artists around like these guys, and they ultimately disrespect Indian people and Indian nations and Indian organizations like the Native American Church," Moore said.


Landis said his group is a healing-based religion open to people from "all walks of life, and all tribes, nations, kindreds and tongues ... who set their foot on the healing path."

Colleen Hauser joined the Nemenhah a few months ago, presumably paying the $250 suggested fee as her son dealt with cancer, which is "not inconsistent with how a lot of our members join," Landis said.

"They're thrown into a medical situation, the medical hierarchy hasn't too many real answers for them, and they begin to search."

On its Web site, the group suggests paying the initial fee, then $100 a year, plus "regular, monthly offerings." The Web site does not appear to espouse any particular type of alternative therapy.

Its rituals include sweat lodges, sacred breaths and baptism, Landis said, but he does not advocate the use of peyote, something that is used by the Native American Church of North America. He said the Nemenhah Band is an affiliate of another group called the Native American Church, and Moore said that Landis does not have "any affiliation with a legitimate, valid, Native American Church chapter or organization anywhere in the United States."

The Nemenhah Band came together about 10 years ago in central Utah by a group of women who felt they had a calling, Landis said. He was elected "principle medicine chief" in part because of his claim to be related to Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce, he said.

But Julie Kane, managing attorney for the Nez Perce in Idaho, said Landis is not Nez Perce and the tribe asked him to stop using references to the Nez Perce a few years ago.

"He is not at all Nez Perce. He is not even a descendant," Kane said.


Colleen Hauser left Minnesota on Monday with Daniel, who has Hodgkins' lymphoma, a highly curable cancer when treated with chemotherapy and radiation. The Hausers preferred alternative remedies, and Daniel and his mother fled a day before a court hearing that could have resulted in a judge ordering chemotherapy.

The Hausers, who are not American Indian, were seen in Southern California on Tuesday, and were thought to be in Mexico. Authorities said Friday that Interpol had joined in the search.

While Hauser leads authorities on an international search, Landis has been left answering questions about the Nemenhah.

"We can support her desire to seek alternative medicine," he said. "But we cannot support her committing a felony."

He speaks freely about his past and his decision to move from Utah last year to southern Missouri when his probation ended after serving several months in prison on fraud charges.

"Trees brought us here," he said, throwing his arms open wide. "We are not a desert family."

Landis, his wife and four children started in Weaubleau, population about 500. The family has since moved about 30 miles away to land north of Stockton, a southwest Missouri town of about 2,000 where Landis says he is building a "lodge" for his family and for the Nemenhah Band, which he claims has about 4,000 members. He doesn't say where that land is exactly, and meets reporters at picnic tables in a park in the center of Stockton.

He said western medicine has its place, telling about a time when his daughter knelt on a nail that went under her kneecap. The nail came out, Landis said, but there was no way to see what, if any, damage had been done. Landis did what many parents would do: He took his child to the hospital and had her knee X-rayed. Also, she had a tetanus shot.

"Our main tenet is: `First, do no harm,' not, `First do nothing,'" he said.

Landis said he lost faith in most traditional medicine after a bout with bubonic plague, a broken back and cancer, which he said disappeared thanks to a tea-like concoction made from a mushroom. He still drinks the mushroom tea daily, he said, 15 years after his diagnosis.

He refers to Daniel Hauser as a youth minister and says he wants the Hausers to return.

"The fear was so great that she broke," Landis said of Colleen Hauser. "But it pales in comparison to what she and her family will go through if she goes to jail. I've been there; I know what she'd go through."
 
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on May 26, 2009, 06:51:28 am
This is Landis's criminal record, including for "theft by confidence game" and "deceptive practices." His record is extremely recent. The guy was still on parole in 2007 while he was leading Nemenhah.

Repost widely pls.

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Idaho Department of Corrections:
              Name: PHILLIP REID LANDIS
              Aliases: PHILLIP REID LANDIS, PHILLIP LANDIS
              State of Origin: Idaho
              DOC Number: 66996
              Party Status: RELEASED
              DOB: xx/xx/1961
              Race: WHITE
              Sex: Male
              Eyes: BLUE
              Height: 6' 01"
              Weight: 208

              Offenses:
                     Case Number: CR-00-2440       
                     Offense: GRAND THEFT       Sentence Date: 11/6/2002       

                     Case Number: CR00-2440       
                     Offense: GRAND THEFT       Sentence Date: 7/2/2002       

              Parole/Probations:
                     Start Date: 12/4/2002       Actual End Date: 12/13/2007       
                     Status: INACTIVE       

              Prison Inmate Records:
                     Latest Admission Date: 7/2/2002       
                     Status: INACTIVE       


       Montana Department of Corrections:
              Name: PHILLIP REID LANDIS
              SSN: xxx-xx-xxxx
              Aliases: PHILLIP REID LANDIS
              State of Origin: Montana
              DOC Number: 45958
              Party Status: INTERSTATE COMPACT
              DOB: xx/xx/1961
              Race: WHITE
              Sex: Male
              Height: 6' 01"
              Weight: 195

              Offenses:
                     Offense Date: 8/1/1997       Convicted County: LINCOLN
                     Offense: THEFT       Sentence Date: 1/24/2000       

                     Offense Date: 8/1/1997       Convicted County: LINCOLN
                     Offense: DECEPTIVE PRACTICES       Sentence Date: 1/24/2000       

              Parole/Probations:
                     [None Found]

              Prison Inmate Records:
                     Status: ACTIVE_INMATE       


       Utah Department of Corrections:
              Name: PHILLIP RIED LANDIS
              SSN: xxx-xx-xxxx
              Aliases: PHILLIP RIED LANDIS
              State of Origin: Utah
              DOC Number: 139065
              DOB: xx/xx/1961
              Race: CAUCASIAN
              Sex: Male
              Eyes: BLUE
              Height: 6' 01"
              Weight: 195

              Offenses:
                     Case Number: CR-00-2440       
                     Offense: THEFT BY CONFIDENCE GAME       Sentence Date: 1/24/2000       

                     Case Number: DC-99-25       
                     Offense: THEFT       

                     Case Number: DC-99-25       
                     Offense: DECEPTIVE BUSINESS PRAC       

                     Case Number: DC99-24       
                     Offense: THEFT       Sentence Date: 1/23/2001       

              Parole/Probations:
                     Start Date: 4/12/2000       Actual End Date: 11/14/2000       
                     Status: DISCHARGED       County: PROVO A P & P

                     Start Date: 1/23/2001       Actual End Date: 7/8/2002       
                     Status: DISCHARGED       County: RICHFIELD AP&P

                     Start Date: 1/27/2003       Actual End Date: 11/19/2007       
                     Status: DISCHARGED       County: RICHFIELD AP&P

              Prison Inmate Records:
                     [None Found]
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on June 17, 2009, 07:02:57 am
There's an audio interview with a professor calling the group plastic shamans.

http://www.hereandnow.org/2009/05/rundown-522/
http://www.hereandnow.org/2009/05/rundown-522/#3
http://www.uiowa.edu/~religion/pesantubbecv.htm

The people at snopes.com have been using us a  resources in their discussion.
http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=45794&page=4

Good news, the boy is no longer in hiding, getting treatment and getting better.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31372774/ns/health-cancer/
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: debbieredbear on June 18, 2009, 12:44:42 am
I noticed that many news casts and newspapers are  now saying  "Native American inspired." That is good. I know I protested when I heard someone say it was native.
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: sunka nunpa on July 18, 2009, 10:49:15 pm
I have heard of alternative healing methods working on certain types of cancer, however these methods (including diet changes) in 99% of the cases i personaly have read about over the years were used AFTER other methods had failed, or were used immediately upon diagnosis, administered by liscened proffessionals, and only affected certain types of cancer.
And have a low cure rate. Insulin resistance is pretty much the only "diet and cancer" thing I genuinely believe in; unfortunately, most of the health foods you see on the market, especially the juices and fortified cereals, are just as bad as the junk food that doesn't pretend to be anything else.

Still, produce seems to prevent cancer. But not send it into remission all on its own.
Title: Nemenhah Band Missouri
Post by: littlefeatherspiri on September 09, 2009, 12:09:42 am
 I can't find what I'm looking for on the net but I can find what I'm not...lol

http://www.nemenhah.org/index.html

"Membership is only by Spiritual Adoption. It is also the only way the Nemenhah Seminary can accept you into the program and designate you a Medicine Man or Medicine Woman. As a Nemenhah Medicine Man or Woman you will be able to practice your Healing Ministry under the full weight and protection of the Native American Free Exercise of Religion Act 1993 (NAFERA) and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act 1993 (RFRA)."



"If you have already been spiritually adopted and you already made your initial $250.00 offering, please remember to support the program by making additional offerings for the Course Modules on a regular basis. All offerings are strictly voluntary and non-refundable."

Title: Re: Nemenhah Band Missouri
Post by: wolfhawaii on September 09, 2009, 12:42:19 am
Gahhhhh! This stuff gives me a FITT!
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on September 09, 2009, 02:28:00 pm
Oh hell. Looks like "Cloudpiler" Landis has been driven out of Minneapolis and relocated to Missouri. All the bad publicity from nearly causing that kid's death, no doubt.

I think the local Missouri media need to be contacted before he does any more harm.
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: Defend the Sacred on September 09, 2009, 05:27:50 pm
Have there been any updates on that kid and his family?

ETA: Looks like the kid is doing pretty well:

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/09/04/daniel-hauser-done-with-chemo/
Quote
Minneapolis — A cancer-stricken Minnesota teenager who once fled the state with his mother to avoid chemotherapy has finished the treatments he so despised and likely will begin radiation in October.

Daniel Hauser, 13, went through his final chemotherapy treatment Thursday at Children's Hospitals and Clinics of Minnesota in Minneapolis, his family said.


This is the only mention of anything "American Indian":
Quote
He and his family opted instead for alternative treatments inspired by American Indian traditions. The issue ended up in court because doctors say Daniel's type of cancer is highly curable with chemotherapy.


No mention of Landis or Nemenhah. That's a problem. What almost killed this kid had nothing to do with American Indian traditions. It was about a con man preying on desperate people. The only connection to anything Indian is that there's still enough ignorance about Indians and Indian traditions that he was able to use the mystique of the "exotic" to con a dying child.
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: Diana on November 09, 2009, 05:17:13 am
Just thought I'd post a little good news.


http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/2009/11/07/20091107forcedchemo-ON.html




Minnesota teen who fled chemo is now cancer-free


Nov. 7, 2009 02:58 PM
Associated Press


MINNEAPOLIS - A Minnesota teen who fled the state to avoid chemotherapy has finished his cancer treatment.

Daniel Hauser of Sleepy Eye underwent his final radiation session Friday, and his family says the 13-year-old is cancer-free.

Daniel gained national attention when he stopped treatment after one session in February and fled, citing his religious beliefs. After he returned, he underwent court-ordered chemo to treat Hodgkin's lymphoma, then started radiation therapy.

Family spokesman Dan Zwakman tells KSTP-TV everything is going as planned. A call to the family's home from The Associated Press rang unanswered Saturday.

A Brown County judge has asked for reports from Brown County Family Services and Daniel's doctor. If everything looks good, the case will likely be closed.
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: Superdog on November 09, 2009, 03:42:18 pm
That's excellent.  My best hope is that through all this, his mother had an epiphany of common sense.  Here's to a long healthy and productive life Daniel!

Superdog
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on November 24, 2010, 08:12:56 pm
Very disturbing news that happened back in October but hasn't gotten much attention. I just got contacted by a reporter in Springfield. One of Nemenah's "healers" had claimed to be a midwife. She's been charged with manslaughter for causing the death of a baby.

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http://www.cafemom.com/group/416/forums/read/12454054/Midwife_charged_with_Involuntary_manslaughter

SPRINGFIELD, Mo. -- A midwife from Schell City is charged with causing the death of a newborn baby nearly a year ago.  Greene County prosecutors believe Elaine Diamond should have sent the baby's mother to a hospital sooner than two days after labor started.

Diamond is charged with first-degree involuntary manslaughter or, in the alternative, first-degree child endangerment.  For a conviction, both charges carry a possible prison sentence as long as seven years.  By charging "in the alternative," prosecutors give a judge or a jury a choice, based on how the facts of the case emerge.

The manslaughter charge says "the defendant recklessly caused the death" of the baby by failing to seek adequate medical intervention" when the "birth became prolonged and/or complicated."  The child endangerment charge says "the defendant knowingly acted in a manner that created a substantial risk to the life (of the baby) by failing to seek adequate medical intervention."

The probable cause statement used as the basis of the charge says the baby, identified in court papers as both R.D. and R.G., was born on Oct. 26, 2009, after 48 hours of labor at a home in Springfield.  The mother's water broke on Oct. 24 and Diamond, the mother's midwife, and Diamond's daughter attended to her before Diamond decided that she needed to go to a hospital three hours after the baby's head crowned.  The birth went no further at the family's home, despite the mother "actively pushing" for those three hours.

The baby's head finally emerged as the father drove the mother to the hospital.  A doctor said the baby was blue when it was born with the umbilical cord wrapped around his neck, "a common condition that is easily corrected at hospitals."

R.D. died at the hospital about four days later after his parents chose to take him off a ventilator that was keeping him alive.  A doctor told an investigator that the baby likely would have been born safely by cesarean section if the mother had come to the hospital soon after her water broke.

According to the PC statement, another doctor who was present at the birth, Dr. David Redfern, said Diamond likely should have allowed the mother to push for no more than two hours before seeking medical help.  Redfern, who talked to Diamond at the hospital, said the midwife told him that she knew the baby's heart rate was slowing down, which the doctor said is "a clear sign that the baby needs to go to the hospital."

In the probable cause statement, a detective wrote that Redfern questioned whether Diamond is properly certified as a midwife.  He also said Redfern believed Diamond improperly tried to help the mother by giving her vitamin supplements and herbal remedies during the birth.

"I asked him why he thought (the mother) was not able to deliver R.D. at home and Dr. Redfern stated he thought it was the inexperience and panic of the midwife.  He said this because, after talking to Dr. Mullins, the ER doctor that delivered R.D. in the parking lot, that Dr. Mullins stated he was able to deliver the baby very easily with gentle downward traction.

"Dr. Redfern stated during the interview that, in his opinion, Elaine Diamond was negligent in her care of (the mother and baby).  Diamond told Redfern that she was not collaborating with a physician, but did have a 'friendly' doctor that she could contact.  He said that certified nurse midwifes (CNM) would have access to lab work and ultrasounds.  CNMs work closely with doctors and don't perform home births.

"Dr. Redfern then showed me the paperwork I had previously seen showing that Elaine Diamond had been banned from praticing midwifery in the State of Colorado."
Diamond wrote the detective a letter two weeks after the baby died.

"The letter contained a copy of the front and back of a business card.  The card was issued by the Nemenhah Band and Native American Traditional Organization (Oklevucha Native American Church of Sanpete) and it certified Elaine Diamond as a Medicine Woman/Traditional Spiritual Leader.  This was effective as of 2009 and was issued by Cloudpiler, the Elected Principle Medicine Chief," the detective wrote.

"I later looked up the internet address nemenhah.org and noticed that the address was a P.O. box in Stockton, MO, which is where Diamond's P.O. Box is located."

The detective later got information from Colorado that Diamond had "engaged in a midwife birth of a child without being licensed by the State of Colorado or by the American College of Midwifes.  During this child birth, a complication ensued when the placenta could not be properly delivered.  Diamond then administered three doses of pitocin to try and stop the bleeding.  When this did not work emergency personnel were called and the mother was transported to the hospital and given two pints of blood.  Diamond and her co-worker fled the scene prior to EMS being able to interview them."

The detective, Cpl. Eric Reece, says a medical examiner concludes R.D. died from "anoxia (absence of oxygen) following a difficult delivery."  The medical examiner found no other "abnormality, perinatal infection, or other problem to explain the difficult delivery."

A judge issued a warrant for Diamond on Friday and set her bond at $25,000.  A condition of her bond will be that she not practice midwifery, not practice medicine, and not be present at the birth of any child, or prenatal or postpartum care."
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on November 26, 2010, 02:44:59 pm
Longer version of the story with more information.

I've also seen the probable cause statement by police. Diamond apparently stayed behind to clean up the scene while the couple went to the hospital. So evidence was lost.
Diamond also made some other obvious mistakes like not checking for Group B Strep and thinking you could treat that with Vitamin C and Echinacea. She also gave the woman demartini blue and kohash.

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Springfield News-Leader (Missouri)

October 9, 2010 Saturday

Midwife facing criminal charges after baby's death

BYLINE: By, Kathryn Wall

SECTION: MAIN; Pg. A1

LENGTH: 806 words


News-Leader

A Schell City woman who called herself a midwife faces criminal charges after a child died of what medical professionals called preventable causes.

Authorities allege Elaine Marie Diamond, 52, allowed a woman to spend almost three days in labor before taking the mother to the hospital. The baby died days later because of complications from the birth.

Diamond has been charged with involuntary manslaughter with the alternative of child endangerment.


According to court documents, the mother text messaged Diamond Oct. 26, 2009, when her water broke. The documents then describe Diamond "eventually" showing up at the house around 2 p.m.

The mother spent the next two days in a birthing pool in her living room in labor.

By Oct. 26 the baby had crowned, but after three hours of actively pushing, the baby had still not been born, the mother told authorities.

By this time, both the mother and father were asking if they should go to the hospital, but Diamond allegedly said she had things under control.

Minutes later, Diamond told the couple to go to the hospital.

The baby was born in the couple's car in the St. John's Hospital parking lot.

"(The mother) said that when he was born, the umbilical cord was wrapped around his neck and he was blue," the probable cause statement said.

The baby was put on a ventilator and suffered some brain damage. The parents later decided to take him off life support four days later.

Several red flags

Two doctors were interviewed in the time after the baby was admitted to the hospital.

The first doctor, a pediatrician, said the baby's wrapped umbilical cord was an easily corrected problem that could have been taken care of at the hospital.

"Dr. Stevens also stated that (the mother) should not have been allowed to labor at home as long as Diamond let her," the probable cause statement said.

Springfield police also interviewed Dr. David Redfern, who delivered the mother's placenta and was present when she came to the hospital.

"Dr. Redfern began the interview by stating that there were several events in (the mother's) childbirth that were of concern," the probable cause statement said. "The first was that she had a ruptured membrane for over 48 hours. Dr. Redfern stated that this was always a red flag."

He said the second concern was the umbilical cord situation, although he said it's not uncommon for an umbilical cord to get wrapped around a child's neck during birth.

"Dr. Redfern stated that, in his opinion, the prolonged labor was high risk and should not have been dealt with outside of the hospital," the statement said.

Not a certified midwife

Redfern said he had a conversation with Diamond at the hospital, where she told him she was a certified practicing midwife. Authorities say she's not.

Debbie Pulley, director of public education and advocacy for the North American Registry of Midwives, said her organization has not certified Diamond as a midwife.

The registry's requirements to be certified as a midwife include helping at at least 20 births, being the primary delivery person at at least 20 births, doing at least 75 prenatal exams, examining at least 20 newborns, doing 40 postpartum exams and taking an 8-hour written exam.

But Pulley said Diamond can still call herself a midwife even if she isn't certified by any organization.

"If she calls herself a midwife, she is a midwife," Pulley said.

Documents she provided as part of the investigation describe her as a medicine woman.

It's unclear whether her medicine woman/traditional spiritual leader card certification -- issued by Chief Cloudpiler of the Nemenhah Band and Native American Traditional Organization -- qualifies under Missouri's law involving midwives.

In 2007, a provision in a Missouri health insurance required some type of medical background before being able to perform a birth. The provision was struck down in 2008 as unconstitutional.

The current law requires a "ministerial or tocological certification."

"Inexperience, panic"

Police asked Redfern why he thought Diamond couldn't deliver the baby.

"Dr. Redfern stated he thought it was the inexperience and panic of the midwife," the report said. "He said this because after talking to Dr. Mullins, the ER doctor that delivered (the baby) in the parking lot, that Dr. Mullins stated he was able to deliver the baby very easily with gentle downward traction."

Not the first difficulty

Court documents show that Diamond has had previous complaints about her midwife practices.

Prosecutors allege another incident earlier this year also endangered a mother and child.
Details about that incident weren't available Friday.

Diamond is barred from practicing midwifery in Colorado after an incident where a woman almost bled to death. In Colorado, a midwife has to be licensed with the state, which Diamond wasn't.

Reporter Sarah Okeson contributed to this report.
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on October 25, 2012, 04:58:37 pm
Those so called "elders" are quite a bunch....

 His Excellency Charles McWilliams-Apparently his title came from the Pope. He runs a health center in the Caribbean island of St Kitts.
http://www.thestkittsnevisobserver.com/jun1308/news8a.htm

So why is one of the "Pope's knights" from St Kitts part of an alleged Native band in Utah?


McWilliams emailed us and denies he has any involvement at all with Nemenhah.

Since Nemenah and Landis claim as "elders" a man who passed away many years ago, it's entirely possible he could be lying about McWilliams and possibly some or all of the other "elders."

Landis is a convicted serial con man after all.

I also urged McWilliams to contact Nemenhah and get his name removed from their site.
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: educatedindian on October 27, 2012, 01:31:29 pm
Landis simultaneously claimed Nemenhah doesn't have McWilliams on their site, and also removed his name on lawyer's advice.

Here's the emails between us, first McWilliams, then Landis, then me.

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I request and demand you remove my name from your website: Charles McWilliams

I have nothing to do with your organization.

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Hello Charles,
 
The website you cite is not owned by Nemenha.  It is a website entirely dedicated to the destruction of the Nemenhah through false representation and claims.  We have no control over what they put on their site.  I suggest you contact them with your demand. 

As for the Nemenhah Website, all reference to you was removed many years ago, as per your request, and the suggestion of Counsel.
 
In future, it might be wisest for one in so august a position as you enjoy to exercise some due diligence of wild and unverified claims, such as the one your moderator has made.  It might color your good name and reputation.
 
Walk Sacred,
Cloudpiler

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Mr. Landis, who calls himself Cloupiler, is either lying or forgetful. They do have you listed on their site.
http://www.nemenhah.org/images/pdf/ezines/Ezine_Aug_Sept_07.pdf
 
They reprinted an article of yours, but altered the ending to make it appear you endorse them or were joining them.
 
Mr. Landis is a convicted con artist in the US, with multiple convictions on several states.

He is best known for his "band" making a "medicine man" out of a 13 year old boy and then urging him to refuse cancer treatment. After a public outcry, the "band" reluctantly allowed treatment.
 
Landis poses as Blackfoot Indian but the Blackfoot tribe has publicly denounced him as a liar.

And he is being melodramatic. We put out warnings on imposters who pose as Native medicine people. Landis is only one of hundreds.
 
Landis's long criminal record and other sordid dealings are in the thread on him.
 
Good luck in getting your name and article removed. I'd be quite amused to see the results once you forward this message to the old con artist and see him try to defend his criminal record, falsehoods, and almost killing a young child.
Al Carroll
Title: Re: Phil Landis & Nemenhah Band, an Oklehueva or ONAC chapter
Post by: educatedindian on October 27, 2014, 02:25:25 pm
James Mooney publicly defended Nemenhah and Landis at this site below. In fact Mooney seems to indicate he knew Landis was a convicted serial con man.

Much of the article is worth reposting because it points out Landis is basically doing a fraudulent knockoff of Mormon beliefs.

So is one of the comments, where a man lost his mother to Landis's and ONAC's phony treatments.

First is Mooney's defense of Landis, then the relevant portion of the article, then the comment by a man whose mother was killed by Landis's urging her to avoid medical care.

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James WFE Mooney   Sep 8,2010 10:20 am     

When Oklevueha NAC authorized Phil ‘Cloudpilier’ Landis Independent Branch of Oklevueha NAC, we were familiar of Mr. Landis personal history and of his heritage. We found him to be very astute in his knowledge of the plant kingdom and a distant descendent of Chief Joseph. However, this knowledge was not the deciding factor of Phil receiving a Independent Branch of Oklevueha NAC, the spirit to strengthen by protecting Mr. Landis already blossoming gifts was the major motivation. He has brought nothing but honor and respect of service to Oklevueha NAC and his heritage.

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http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/a-sad-curious-tale-of-rampant-duplicity-and-stupidity/#.VE5QgOktAcA
....The Nemenhah’s websites claim, however, that the people known as the Nemenhah came to North America from the Middle East before the Christian era, and settled in the Four Corners area. Records (the Mentinah Archives) of their history and beliefs were preserved there, and only were recently (2004) translated into English. If this history sounds awfully like what is in the Book of Mormon, then it may interest you to know that the Nemenhah supposedly joined Hagoth, a figure in the BoM, when he left his homeland.

The LDS church, however, does not recognize the Mentinah Archives as authentic. The irony there is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

For suggested initial and monthly “donations,” you too can become a member of the Nemenhah, can buy their tribal medicinals, and can even sell them to your friends and family by joining the Nemenhah MLM.

Being afforded “spiritual adoption” means protection under federal law, the Nemenhah website says. “As a Nemenhah Medicine Man or Woman you will be able to practice your Healing Ministry under the full weight and protection of the Native American Free Exercise of Religion Act 1993 (NAFERA) and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act 1993 (RFRA).”

There is no archeological or historical evidence of a people named the Nemenhah living in the Four Corners, however. (There is also no similar evidence corroborating the Book of Mormon, but that’s another story.) The US Bureau of Indian Affairs and Native American organizations do not recognize the Nemenhah as a valid tribe or nation, either.

Contrary to Native American practice, the Nemenhah’s online healing academy charges money (aka donations) for training to be a medicine man or woman. The Hausers, including Daniel, are medicine men, according to news reports.

You cannot become a member of a recognized Native American nation, tribe or people by paying money. To gain membership, your ancestors had to have been Native Americans, and you have to prove it. Saying your great-grandfather was Cherokee, for example, does not mean you are a Cherokee.

For that matter, paying money to a church for training or religious education is pretty atypical, unless the church happens to be the Church of Scientology.

The presumed head of the organization, known formally as the Nemenhah Band and Native American Traditional Organization (Oklevueha Native American Church of Sanpete), is Phillip R. Landis, who goes by the pseudo-Native name of “Cloudpiler.” Landis is a naturopath by profession.

Landis, coincidentally, wrote the foreword to the “translation” of the Mentinah Archives and published the English translation. The original texts are supposedly locked away in a safe location, while five unnamed translators voluntarily work on the translation.

Someone on a Mormon forum site challenged the authenticity of the Mentinah Archives. Landis, under the unlikely name of Ea-lea Powitz Peopeo, responded with a lengthy diatribe providing arcane details about the Nemenhah and the archives, all couched in language to appeal to a Mormon readership.

"Those who want a better idea of what the Lord is doing to bring forth these translations can go back and study how the Lord did it with Joseph Smith. It is very similar. The heavens are opened. The original writers and God are very much involved in helping the translators. This should not be a surprise to anyone, yet it is a great stumbling block for many because of the condition the prophets and Christ said the Church and the world would be in in our day. For example, there are those who simply do not believe that God will allow anyone to be a translator unless he is one of the General Authorities of the Church. They don’t recognize that Joseph Smith was a translator before he was called to be the head of the Church. The fact is, God can call anyone He wants to be a translator, even an ignorant farm boy."

More of his rationalizations can be found here: http://blog.nemenhah.org/ The organization and financial structure of the Nemenhah and its MLM seem pretty sketchy to me, but I am not a lawyer.

Speaking of the law, Landis several years ago had some legal problems in Montana and Idaho regarding a mushroom-growing business that encouraged farmers to grow reishi mushers and be paid for their harvest. Some farmers allegedly never got paid.

The layers of deceit in this story are almost too many to count. We have a family who have bought into (literally) a supposed Native American church. This church claims to give its members protection under federal Indian Affairs law, but the church and the Nemenhah tribe in fact are not recognized Native American entites.

Meanwhile, the sole reason for the Nemenhah Band’s existence apparently is to peddle a line of “traditional” medicinals, using a dubious MLM scheme, to people like the Hausers, who want alternative ways to stay healthy....

LINKS OF INTEREST:
 Minnesota Public Radio report: http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/05/07/parents_refuse_treatment_for_son/
 Indian Country Today report on the Nemenhah:
http://www.indiancountrytoday.com/archive/28147394.html

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galigo   May 15,2009 4:55 pm     

My mother died because she followed his healing advice instead of receiving medical treatment. Here is a copy of an email I sent the chief. cloudpiler@nemenhah.org

Phil Landis (AKA Cloudpiler),

Thanks to all the publicity you’re receiving from this Daniel Hauser case, I finally caught up to you. I’m sure you’ve wanted to know how things ended up with my mother, Richelle, your neighbor at Parks Place, Hideaway Valley, UT.

If your memory needs refreshed, she had uterine cancer, which is 75% to 95% survivable with appropriate (medical) treatment.

However, you advised her to use your alternative healing methods, which she did.

As you were aware, she became sicker and sicker, as she continued to do what you advised her to do. When I came to visit her, you would disappear.

When she became so sick that she needed 24 hour care, my wife and I brought her to our home in Idaho. Here, we cared for her and loved her until she died.

Then, I saw your mugshot on the local TV news, convicted of fraud.

Now, I see you’re using religion to cover your multi-level marketing scam to distribute the same healing methods that lead to my mother’s death.

To top it off, I understand you claim to have discovered and translated some ancient plates which prove you’re the chief of some lost tribe of Native Americans!

Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is? Sadly, there are people who innocently fall for your deceit. Like my mom did.

I wonder how many other people have died because of what you do.

Does it bother you?

Here’s something you should know: My wife and my dad both had cancer at the same time as my mother. Weird, huh. The thing is, my wife and my dad are still here. Cured by surgery. Perfectly healthy now.

I miss my mom, and every time I think of her slow, painful, rotting, stinking death my heart breaks all over again.

You are not only a fraud, chief, you’re a killer.

I’m going to post a copy of this letter to the blogs that come up on the first search page when your name is googled.
Title: Re: Phil Landis & Nemenhah Band, an Oklehueva or ONAC chapter
Post by: volcano woman on February 20, 2016, 04:06:40 pm
galigo   May 15,2009 4:55 pm     

My mother died because she followed his healing advice instead of receiving medical treatment. Here is a copy of an email I sent the chief. cloudpiler@nemenhah.org

Phil Landis (AKA Cloudpiler),

Thanks to all the publicity you’re receiving from this Daniel Hauser case, I finally caught up to you. I’m sure you’ve wanted to know how things ended up with my mother, Richelle, your neighbor at Parks Place, Hideaway Valley, UT.

If your memory needs refreshed, she had uterine cancer, which is 75% to 95% survivable with appropriate (medical) treatment.

However, you advised her to use your alternative healing methods, which she did.

As you were aware, she became sicker and sicker, as she continued to do what you advised her to do. When I came to visit her, you would disappear.

When she became so sick that she needed 24 hour care, my wife and I brought her to our home in Idaho. Here, we cared for her and loved her until she died.

Then, I saw your mugshot on the local TV news, convicted of fraud.

Now, I see you’re using religion to cover your multi-level marketing scam to distribute the same healing methods that lead to my mother’s death.

To top it off, I understand you claim to have discovered and translated some ancient plates which prove you’re the chief of some lost tribe of Native Americans!

Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is? Sadly, there are people who innocently fall for your deceit. Like my mom did.

I wonder how many other people have died because of what you do.

Does it bother you?

Here’s something you should know: My wife and my dad both had cancer at the same time as my mother. Weird, huh. The thing is, my wife and my dad are still here. Cured by surgery. Perfectly healthy now.

I miss my mom, and every time I think of her slow, painful, rotting, stinking death my heart breaks all over again.

You are not only a fraud, chief, you’re a killer.

I’m going to post a copy of this letter to the blogs that come up on the first search page when your name is googled.

This is similar to what happened to a First nations woman on Haida Gwaii whom became involved with Erick Gonzalez.

 She was convinced as others were by Gonzalez to take amanita mushroom as a medicine and peyote. She was  looking for healing. She became devoted to his way , gifting him and following his instructions. He had women like her gather , dry and stock pile amanita for him. He called it " working with the medicines" part of his training to prepare you to be a medicine carrier.

 She even accessed funding for him from her local funders. After 4 years or more she became very ill and reached out to an Haida elder for Haida medicine but the elder said it was too late she was already taking Erick's medicines.

When she was dying ,a woman by her bedside reported that the woman dying announced :

Stop the prayers, stop the fires and stop the medicines

She is referring to the 9 fires training where Erick has his female participants taking these powerful and some highly toxic plants as part of his training.
This woman had  stomach issues in her sickness, she was seeking healing. Why would someone who calls themselves a healer administer a poisionous mushroom to heal internal disease?
When she died she rapidly turned black. This is cyanosis, poisoning.
Her family believes she would have lived longer if she did not get involved with Erick Gonzalez. Other women have suffered too from his ways.
People should know!!!!!!!!!! :-X :-X :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Phil Landis & Nemenhah Band, an Oklehueva or ONAC chapter
Post by: volcano woman on February 20, 2016, 04:27:52 pm
galigo   May 15,2009 4:55 pm     

My mother died because she followed his healing advice instead of receiving medical treatment. Here is a copy of an email I sent the chief. cloudpiler@nemenhah.org

Phil Landis (AKA Cloudpiler),

Thanks to all the publicity you’re receiving from this Daniel Hauser case, I finally caught up to you. I’m sure you’ve wanted to know how things ended up with my mother, Richelle, your neighbor at Parks Place, Hideaway Valley, UT.

If your memory needs refreshed, she had uterine cancer, which is 75% to 95% survivable with appropriate (medical) treatment.

However, you advised her to use your alternative healing methods, which she did.

As you were aware, she became sicker and sicker, as she continued to do what you advised her to do. When I came to visit her, you would disappear.

When she became so sick that she needed 24 hour care, my wife and I brought her to our home in Idaho. Here, we cared for her and loved her until she died.

Then, I saw your mugshot on the local TV news, convicted of fraud.

Now, I see you’re using religion to cover your multi-level marketing scam to distribute the same healing methods that lead to my mother’s death.

To top it off, I understand you claim to have discovered and translated some ancient plates which prove you’re the chief of some lost tribe of Native Americans!

Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is? Sadly, there are people who innocently fall for your deceit. Like my mom did.

I wonder how many other people have died because of what you do.

Does it bother you?

Here’s something you should know: My wife and my dad both had cancer at the same time as my mother. Weird, huh. The thing is, my wife and my dad are still here. Cured by surgery. Perfectly healthy now.

I miss my mom, and every time I think of her slow, painful, rotting, stinking death my heart breaks all over again.

You are not only a fraud, chief, you’re a killer.

I’m going to post a copy of this letter to the blogs that come up on the first search page when your name is googled.

[size=14pt][/size]This is similar to what happened to a First nations woman on Haida Gwaii whom became involved with Erick Gonzalez.

 She was convinced as others were by Gonzalez to take amanita mushroom as a medicine and peyote. She was  looking for healing. She became devoted to his way , gifting him and following his instructions. He had women like her gather , dry and stock pile amanita for him. He called it " working with the medicines" part of his training to prepare you to be a medicine carrier.

 She even accessed funding for him from her local funders. After 4 years or more she became very ill and reached out to an Haida elder for Haida medicine but the elder said it was too late she was already taking Erick's medicines.

When she was dying ,a woman by her bedside reported that the woman dying announced :

Stop the prayers, stop the fires and stop the medicines

She is referring to the 9 fires training where Erick has his female participants taking these powerful and some highly toxic plants as part of his training.
This woman had  stomach issues in her sickness, she was seeking healing. Why would someone who calls themselves a healer administer a poisionous mushroom to heal internal disease?
When she died she rapidly turned black. This is cyanosis, poisoning.
Her family believes she would have lived longer if she did not get involved with Erick Gonzalez. Other women have suffered too from his ways.
People should know!!!!!!!!!! :-X :-X :-\ :'(
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Title: Re: Phil Landis & Nemenhah Band, an Oklehueva or ONAC chapter
Post by: Piff on August 15, 2017, 10:49:29 pm
James W "Flaming Eagle" Mooney regularly issues public notices "of distrust" against his people, detailing their supposed sins. Landis was given one in 2014.

Notice of distrust, Nemenhah's discussion https://web.archive.org/web/20170815222854/http://www.nemenhah.org/uploads/9/5/5/9/9559956/epmcs_summary_and_proclamation_regarding_oklevueha_nac-_2014.pdf

There is a lot of information in here, plus it is a good laugh to read all the infighting: fraud ripping frauds off.

In 2015, Landis changed the name of his organization from Nemenhah Band and Native American Traditional Organization to Nemenhah ITO.

Title: Re: Phil Landis & Nemenhah Band, an Oklehueva or ONAC chapter
Post by: Piff on August 15, 2017, 11:27:44 pm
In the "Uniform Curriculum for Nemenhah Ministry" http://www.uninem.org/uploads/9/5/5/9/9559956/ucnm_complete_text_-_2014.pdf Landis states that in the Nez Perce Census of 1900, his ancestor is recorded as Pawna Tawny, "infant girl".
 
I read through the handwritten census, which can be found through here https://archive.org/details/indiancensusroll301unit. No one is recorded as "infant girl", that is not a designation given. There is no Pawna Tawny, no variation of that name, nothing close.

He claims that Pawna Tawny was renamed Mable Hall.  Mable Hall (husband Charles Catherman) is a real person, she is not in that 1900 census either, she was not even yet born.

Landis' mother https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=68153299
step father https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Landis&GSiman=1&GScid=109448&GRid=164222397&
bio father (Phillip listed in obituary) https://web.archive.org/web/20170815220239/https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=104098837

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Julie Kane, managing attorney for the Nez Perce in Idaho, said Landis is not Nez Perce and the tribe asked him to stop using references to it a few years ago.

“He is not at all Nez Perce. He is not even a descendant,” Kane said.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170815231456/http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30893871/ns/health-health_care/t/leader-defends-church-center-chemo-case/#.WZOAq9GQzIU

Phillip R Landis is a convicted con artist. He, his family, and followers are still active.
http://www.uninem.org/
http://www.nemenhah.org/


Title: Re: Phil Landis & Nemenhah Band, an Oklehueva or ONAC chapter
Post by: educatedindian on May 26, 2018, 04:16:29 pm
Landis and Nemenhah are at it again. The Wiki page on them reads like a press release and promo material. I tried to add some truthfulness. We'll see if it stands. I invite others to try.

One of the claims is that Richard Swallow endorses them. Longtime members recall that David Swallow pandered to Nuagers for decades and was denounced as a plastic.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemenhah_Indigenous_Traditional_Organization
Nemenhah Indigenous Traditional Organization (Nemenhah People, Nemenhah ITO) is a group of whites, many with fraud convictions, falsely claiming to be Native medicine people. They describe themselves as convocation of Medicine Men/Women and Ministers of the Native American Church of Nemenhah (NACNEM), formerly "Numi'Pu TsuPehli Chophunsh", and "Nemenhah Band and Native American Traditional Organization", consecutively, which is the established ecclesiastical institution of the Nemenhah ITO.

Contents
1   History
2   Membership
3   References
4   External links
History
The Nemenhah Band (then an independent branch of the Oklevueha/Sioux Native American Church) was formed by an independent Council of mothers claiming to represent many recognized tribes and peoples and by ratification of its constitution in 2002. The Nemenhah Great Council (Constitutional Assembly) meets each year at the Ceremonial Grounds located in Cedar County, Missouri. The group claims these are traditional territories cited by the ancient Nemenhah in sacred records of the Nemenhah. In fact, there is not and never has been any such "Nemenhah" tribe. The Native American Church of Nemenhah claims Natural Medicine and all of its modalities to be sacrament, sacred objects and practice of its Native American Religion. (No actual Native people agree to this or claim so.) Therefore, all members of Nemenhah are considered Ministers of the Church as they strive to heal the individual, the family, the community, the society and the planet through sacred ceremony, with sacrament and with sacred objects.

Phillip R. Cloudpiler Landis, a white man convicted of fraud in Idaho, Montana, and Utah, was elected as Principle Medicine Chief by the First Mothers Council and was re-elected by the Great Council every year from 2002 to 2011. In 2012, the Nemenhah Great Council (Constitutional Assembly) re-organized the governing offices of the organization into two distinct Branches (Ecclesiastical and Secular) and Jonathan M. Wellamotkin Landis, the son of Phillip Landis, was elected as Nehm Tiwehkthihmpt (Elected Principle/Medicine Chief and Talking Feather) of the secular government in the Nemenhah ITO. During the Nemenhah Great Council of 2012, Phillip Landis was sustained as the Tehk Tiwehkthihmpt (Presiding High priest/President of the Native American Church of Nemenhah) of the established ecclesiastical institution of the Nemenhah ITO.

The organization is listed on the Cherokee Nations "Fraudulent Group List" of unrecognized Indian tribes.,[1] but from its inception the organization has made claims [2] of seeking Tribal Status[3] from the U.S. Department of the Interior, Bureau of Indian Affairs. However, the Native American Church of Nemenhah (including prior historical denominations as an organization) has, since 2002, received never affiliations with and recognition[4] from any Holy Men and Women of Federally Recognized Tribes and Bands[5] within the United States and Alaska.

Membership
Membership in the Nemenhah is by paying a fee of $250. Request for spiritual adoption is always accompanied by a sacred giveaway offering and all services by the Nemenhah, its Chiefs and Officers, and its Ministers are also requested by Sacred Giveaway, which the group claims is in accordance with the religious practices of alleged ancient Nemenhah. In the Interest of competence, liability and continuing education, the Nemenhah provides a curriculum for the appropriate training of its Ministers. Nemenhah Mministers do consider themselves "shamans" and are concerned only with Nemenhah Religious Practices, and with profit making from such interest, and in avoiding prosecution for illegal drug use.

Indigenous peoples of the Americas have criticized these practices,[6] despite blessings received Richard Swallow, of the Eagle Clan of the Ogalalla Sioux, of the Native American Church of South Dakota and Wounded Knee, the Maca-Oyate. Swallow has always been a controversial figure within the Lakota. The Swallow family has been repeatedly denounced by other Lakota as "plastic shamans" who profit off of non-Natives.

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The Nemenhah midwife who killed a baby with her incompetence pled guilty to lesser charges. Disgusting, she only gets probation. At least they barred her from practicing.
https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/crime/2016/02/24/midwife-pleads-guilty-after-springfield-baby-dies-following-delivery/80870080/

FB for Landis.
https://www.facebook.com/phillipcloudpiler.landis

Here's his proud admittance of being a con man and cult leader.
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https://fmhorg.wordpress.com/2004/12/21/feeling-vindictive/
Phillip R. Landis AKA Cloudpiler | April 15, 2006 at 9:16 pm
Your comments about me are absolutely true. I was convicted in two associated trials. In Montana, I was convicted of Theft by Deception and Deceptive Business Practices and sentenced to two concurrent 10 year terms. However, the judge in the matter saw me as such a dangerous criminal that he required only thirty days of that sentence to be served in the county jail. The rest of the sentence was suspended....

The second case was in Idaho. I plead No – Constere and was sentenced to two years in the Idaho State Penitentiary. The Judge in that case saw me as such a dangerous repeat offender that he entered a withheld judgment and I served four months in North Idaho Correctional Institution (boot camp). He demanded no restitution in the matter. When I have completed all the probation requirements, he will dismiss the case and it will be as if it never happened.

A default judgment was entered against me in civil court awarding some $600,000.00 which the State of Idaho immediately wrote off as bad debt. There has been no attempt to collect since the sentence was entered.

Now, as for my “Cult,” I am flattered. Cult simply means a group of people who meet together for ceremonial and religious purposes. If I have a Cult, then it is complimentary to us. We are engaging. I’m not sure what you are doing.

I do reccommend that all Mormons refrain from reading the Mentinah Archives. I do disclose to everybody who hears me speak that I am a double felon. I have no hangups over who or what I am. You do seem to be hung up over me. Please rest easy.

Your intentions seem to be to protect others from fraud. That sounds noble. So, with all your legal research, can it have been lost on you that fraud requires certain necessary issues, such as, opportunity, injurred parties, actual commission of offense under the law, and last but not least, monitary damages. If you are accusing me of fraud in the matter of the Mentinah Archives, you might want to provide some of those items. Otherwise, what you are writing could be as easily described as slander and libel. Now, you may feel justified in that little bit of injury upon your neighbor. After all, you can’t be convicted of felony for it....

Cloudpiler
Elected Hereditary Medicine Chief
Nemenhah Band and Native American Traditional Organization
Board Certified Naturopath
Native American Practitioner
Former Pres. Utah Naturopathic Medical Association
Medicine Man, Roadman, Spiritual Leader (Native American Church)
Double Felon  Father Sculptor Gardiner etc...

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Pretty obvious also that Landis is one more white Mormon with wacky ideas about NDNs. He claims to have discovered new tablets taking up where the Book of Mormon left off.
https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=13677
Title: Re: Phil Landis & Nemenhah Band, an Oklehueva or ONAC chapter
Post by: educatedindian on May 26, 2018, 07:03:07 pm
Nemenhah curriculum. A hodgepodge of faux Lakota, faux Anishnabe, faux Nez Perce, and even faux Ghost Dance and faux Tai Chi mixed with mostly fundamentalist Mormonism, faux Biblical claims, faux Palestinian, faux Hebrew words, and bad attempts to imitate Biblical writing with Nuage ideas about crystals, radionics, etc. 

Seriously, for dozens of pgs they go on "Oh Lord...and it came to pass...behold...Zion..." followed by alleged Nez Perce words and smudging, photos of NDNs, etc. There's even supposed sacred clothing for married couples first time having sex, including moccasins. You can't make this up.

Almost 100 pgs of the 400 pgs are devoted to dodging drug laws. Reel spirchul. But anyone dumb enough to use Nemenhah claims is still going to jail. Just do a search.

It's also clear it's no exagerration to call this an outright cult, as Landis himself does. They have faux ceremony for everything from births to funerals. The doc is short of making it clear how many followers they have. Landis claims online to have 5000, but this doc lists only himself and his son Jonathan as leaders. There are allegedly local councils and chapters, but no sign I've seen of them so far. (These are listed as authors of their code of conduct: President Phillip "Cloudpiler" Landis, Chief Guldal Caba, Chiefs Joanne and Scotty Nuzum, the Nuzum Children of the Youth Medicine Chapter, Carol Bolin, Jeri
Spencer, and Gloria Staley.)

And they have their own supposed martial arts. A knockoff of Taekwondo.

http://www.uninem.org/uploads/9/5/5/9/9559956/ucnm_complete_text_-_2014.pdf
Chapter One: G1101 - Introduction to Nemenhah Ceremony.....................................................................15
The Medicine Wheel........................................................23
The Medicine Wheel in Ceremony .....................................28
The Ceremony of Mohr Hohnayah ....................................28
The Bundle..................................................................32
Appropriate Signage ....................................................42
Chapter Two: G1201 - New Member Orientation..............45
Authority..........................................................................46
Scope and Extent............................................................48
Your Personal Authority ...................................................48
Active Status....................................................................50
THE EDUCATIONAL PROCESS .............................................51
The UCNM (Uniform Curriculum for Nemenhah Ministry)..........52
G1 – Sahaptan Guide Track ...............................................54
C2 – Sahaptan Carrier Track..................................................55
S3 – Sahaptan Shirt Track...................................................56
University of Nemenhah (UNINEM)..........................................56
Equivalency through other Institutions ....................................57
Fundamental Documents......................................................58
The Constitution.............................................................58
The Nemenhah Code of Ethical Conduct...................................58
The Nemenhah Declaration as an Indigenous People (UNDRIP).......................58
The General Handbook of Instructions.......................................................58
Chronology and Affiliations ......................................................................58
Additional Support Documents............................................................59
The Consensus Council ...................................................................59
History........................................................................................59
Hahgohtl's Journey........................................................................60
Tsi-Tuhgohhah's Idea.................................................................62
Other Councils .........................................................................67
How the Council Functions .........................................................67
The Talking Feather of Council .......................................................68
Powers of the Talking Feather.....................................................69
Kohhaht - Keeper of the Door ....................................................69
Two Types of Kohhaht.............................................................70
Practical Applicat...................................................................71
Chapter Three: G1301 - Spiritual Adoption as Basic Defense.................91
Introduction...................................................................................93
Basic Defense ..................................................................98
RFRA...........Burden.........................................................................99
Covenant of Spiritual Adoption Burdened .......................................... 101
Obligations Provide Preponderance................................................... 102
Recipient’s Covenant and Obligation............................................... 105
Natural Medicine........................................................................ 106
Core Curriculum and Continuing Education..........................................
Proof of Activity..................................................................... 10
Sacred Giveaway ................................................................... 111
Sincerity of Belief............................................................... 112
Legal Standards................................................................... 113
Qualifications ....................................................................... 114
Wexler Decision.............................................................. 114
Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church .......................................... 115
Pattern of Behavior - A Consequence of Covenant Keeping................ 116
Religious Belief...................................................................... 116
Meyers’ Test.........................................................................
Practical Application.................................................................
Religious Freedom Reply to IRS Standards......................................... 137
NACNEM Organizational Outline (as it applies to the Societies)................................... 138
Nemenhah ITO Organizational Outline (as it applies to Councils)........... 139
IRS Test........................................................................................... 145
Legal standards for the IRS .............................................................. 145
Overview of Religious Freedom Coalition Reply to IRS Standards ................... 146
Compelling Interest................................................................. 148
Least Restrictive Means of Furtherance ....................................... 150
Summary..................................................................................... 150
Ayahuasca Case.................................................................... 151
Major Cases..................................................................... 152
Chapter Four: C2101 - Introduction to Unipi Ceremony ............................ 153
What is Unipi?............................................................................... 153
Excerpt from the First Book of Tsi Tuhgohhah - Sacred Records of the Nemenhah ("Mayntinah
Archives")...................................................................................... 154
Volume One, Chapter One: Marriage .................................................. 154
Excerpt from the First Book of Tsi Tuhgohhah - Sacred Records of the Nemenhah ("Mayntinah
Archives")......................................................................................... 161
Volume One, Chapter Nine: Council of Mothers........................................ 161
Excerpt from The First Book of Tsi Tuhgohhah - Sacred Records of the Nemenhah
("Mayntinah Archives")......................................................... 162
Volume One, Chapter Eleven: Family Ceremony ......................... 162
Excerpts from the First Book of Tsi Tuhgohhah - Sacred Records of the Nemenhah
("Mayntinah Archives")...................................................... 163
Volume One, Chapter Thirteen: Dedication of Sacred Places ........................ 163
Excerpts from the First Book of Tsi Tuhgohhah- The Sacred Records of the Nemenhah
("Mayntinah Archives").................................................................164
Volume One, Chapter Fifteen: Family Councils ..........................164
Chapter Five: C2201 - Public Oblations....................................165
Smudge as a Method of Delivery..........................................................165
Sacred Smudge Herbs Commonly Used......................................166
Sage...............................................................................166
Cedar .........................................................................167
Sweetgrass....................................................................167
Ceremonies of Smudge.................................................168
ANISHINABE - Algonquin...............................................168
Manidokewinan..............................................................169
The Four Sacred Medicines- Kchitwaa Mshkiki ...................170
Canadian Aboriginal........................................................171
Chippewa- Smudging......................................................174
Cheyenne- The Smudging Ceremony......................................175
Sacred Smoke – Ancient Origins ...........................................176
Public Oblations ...............................................................177
Ceremonies and Dances .................................................177
Celebrations ....................................................178
Life-Stage Ceremonies ................................................179
Responsibility of Members Regarding Children in Ceremony .....................179
Definitions.................................................................................180
Chapter Six: C2301 - The Sahaptan Healing Way, an Introduction.......................183
Defining the Sacred Sahaptan Healing Way ......................................................183
Tiheht.............................................................................................184
Tiheht Tsah (Guide)......................................................................184
Tiwehk Tuhkiht Tsah (Carrier) and Tiwehkt Nahktohwit Tsah (Shirt).....................................185
The Sahaptan Healing Way.....................................................................185
The Medicine Wheel – An Instrument of Focus.............................................186
Medicine Wheel Points......................................................................186
Sky Father ............................................................................186
Earth Mother Point..............................................................187
Center Self Point..................................................................187
Seeks Council Point......................................................................187
Seeks Spirit Point..............................................................187
Sees Far Point........................................................................187
Looks Within Point.....................................................................188
Sacred Breath Applications........................................................188
What is Energy? .......................................................................189
Ehlahts Kohwaht Isipaht (Acupuncture).............................................190
Ehlahts Kohwaht Waysit (Acupressure).............................................190
Ehlahts Kohwaht Kuhkikihneht (Laying on of Hands)................................191
Ehlahts Kohwaht Payits .................................................. 191
Chi (Qi/Tsi)...................................................................
Mental Imagery........................................................................ 191
Radionics ..................................................................... 192
Crystals....................................................................... 193
Intention............................................................................ 193
Sacred Prayer Pipe, Smudge, Sacred Copal................................ 193
Alkaline Ash........................................................................ 194
Sacred Breath as Delivery Method......................................... 194
Smoke or Aroma?............................................................ 195
Chapter Seven: S3101 - Introduction to Itsipi............................. 197
The Four Pillars or "Great Principles" of the High Place............................ 197
History ................................................................................ 197
Tuhhuhl Nuhmihn - "High Place" and "Temple"................................... 199
Tsi Tuhgohhah Gives Us Context ...................................................... 200
Ancient Palestinian Covenant Pattern............................................... 203
Who Were They? Who Are We? ................................................ 204
The Sacred Place................................................................. 207
Constructing and Dedicating the Itsipi............................................ 216
The Roadperson's Itsipi Lodge (Temporary Lodge - Plains Style Lodge)................... 216
The Willow and Bamboo.......................................................................... 216
The Hearth and Uhmtsi .................................................................... 217
The Tlehmehskahl ......................................................................... 220
The Place of the Fire .................................................................... 225
The Sacred Fire........................................................................... 226
Lighting the Sacred Fire ............................................................... 227
Purifying the Lodge.......................................................................... 227
Entering the Lodge..................................................................... 228
Purifying the Pipe ................................................................ 229
Placing the Stones........................................................................... 229
The Four "Doors" of Itsipi Ceremony............................................... 230
The First Door ........................................................................... 230
The Second Door ....................................................................... 232
The Third Door ........................................................................ 234
The Fourth Door......................................................................... 235
After the Itsipi......................................................................... 237
Clean Up............................................................................... 237
Chapter Eight: S3201 - Introduction to Wyaykihn................................ 239
Wyaykihn - What Is It?................................................................. 239
The Wyaykihn Quest................................................................... 240
The Wyaykihn of Cloudpiler......................................................... 240
The Sacred Sahaptan Healing Way ............................................ 242
Teachers of Wyaykihn ............................................................ 243
Chief Joseph................................................................................245
Wovoka.........................................................................................246
Borrows Five Eagles ................................................................................246
The Basic Premise...............................................................................247
A Quest For Vision .............................................................................248
Ask and You Shall Receive, Knock and It Shall be Opened.........................252
Wyaykihn – Then and Now...............................................................253
Wyaykihn - a Vitally Important Tool..........................................................255
The “Data Stream” - All My Relations ..................................................256
Relying on Wyaykihn..................................................................257
Wyaykihn in the Ministry .........................................................259
Itsipi and Wyaykihn.................................................................260
Wyaykihn and the Physicist..........................................................263
Wyaykihn is not Astral Projection ..........................................264
Creating the Safe Place.....................................................265
Give Away All That You Have.............................................267
Chapter Nine: S3301 – From Cradle to Grave, a Study in Nemenhah Culture.............271
The Birth of a Child.............................................................................272
Bestowal of the Child's Spirit...................................................272
The Ceremonies attendant with the Birth of the Child..........................273
Blessing of the Newborn......................................................273
The Naming of the Infant..............................................274
Blessing of Children ......................................................274
Song of Thanksgiving ...................................................276
The Father Speaks Prophetically............................................276
Song of Thanksgiving .........................................................276
The Ceremony of Vocal Prayer.............................................277
Childhood Milestones ..........................................................278
Baptism Preparatory to Agency.............................................278
Bestowal of the Haymehnay.........................................279
Blessing for Healing ...................................................279
Agency and Franchise .........................................................279
Naming is Entrance into the Community of Nemenhah..................................280
The Naming Ceremony of the Modern Nemenhah..................................282
Administration of the New Name.........................................283
Entering Adulthood...................................................289
The Raising of the Lodge ...................................................290
The Raising of the Itsipi Lodge ............................................292
Dedicating the Lodge ............................................................293
The Dedicating of Fires ........................................................294
The Pouring of the Itsipi.......................................................294
The Itsipi Im ....................................................................295
The Blessing of the Sick and the Blessing for Other Purposes...........296
The Ceremonies of Healing ................................... 297
The Receiving of Wyaykihn........................................... 298
The New Name at Coming of Age ........................................... 299
The Challenge to Nemenhah Youth ......................................... 301
Pyaysaht Taekwon Nehm Society of the Nemenhah .......................... 302
Tenets of Pyaysaht Taekwon Nehm..................................... 302
The Commission of the Peacemaker .................................... 304
Receiving the Commission of the Peacemaker ......................... 306
The Ordination.............................................................. 308
The Sacred Bundle and Sacred Breath .............................. 310
Receiving the Stewardship.............................................. 310
Marriage Among the Nemenhah......................................... 311
Marriage as Covenant....................................................... 312
The Ways and Customs of the Ahmohnayhah.............................. 313
Marriage Eternal .................................................................... 319
The Nemenhah Marriage Today................................................. 322
Courtship.......................................................................... 323
The Couple Interview...................................................... 324
The Four Great Principles of the High Place ............................ 324
The Law of the Gospel – The Law of Knowledge......................... 325
The Law of Sacrifice.............................................. 325
The Law of Chastity – The Law of Virtue................................ 325
The Law of Consecration – The Making of Sacred............................. 327
Couple Tokens ...................................................................... 328
Special Attire....................................................................... 328
The Bridal Gown....................................................................... 330
The Public Ceremony ............................................................ 332
Divorce and the Unbinding of the Covenant................................ 333
Children and Family Life .......................................................... 336
Children Out of Wedlock.......................................................... 343
The Elderly and Infirm......................................................... 344
Observances .................................................................... 344
Sabbaths............................................................................ 344
Kohhaht............................................................................... 345
Opening Ceremony............................................................... 345
Sacrament of the Lord's Supper.............................................. 345
Discourse...................................................................... 346
Songs of Praise and Worship....................................................... 347
Home Sabbath Observance......................................................... 347
Lunar Sabbaths .............................................................................. 347
Seventh Year Sabbath or Year of Restoration..................................... 347
The Ceremonies and Ordinances of the High Place ............................ 348
Death and Dying ......................................................................... 354
Death......................................................354
Dying .........................................................................................355
Standard Nemenhah Funeral ...........................................................368
The Ceremony ..................................................................................369
Burial – So Many Different Ways.......................................................372
Sacrifice and Unconditional Love........................................................381
What About Our Future? .....................................................394
Title: Re: Phil Landis & Nemenhah Band, an Oklehueva or ONAC chapter
Post by: educatedindian on May 26, 2018, 08:57:30 pm
Revenue estimates, disturbing.

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owler.com

University Of Nemenhah
uninem.org

University Of Nemenhah's headquarters is located in Stockton, Missouri. For every employee, University Of Nemenhah generates $258.6K in revenue.

Estimated Revenue $4.9M

Estimated Employees 19

Founded: 2013

Headquarters: StocktonMissouri

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https://dhe.mo.gov/cbhe/boardbook/documents/TabO0917.pdf
University of Nemenhah
Stockton, Missouri
This institution was granted exemption as “a non-profit school, owned, controlled, and operated
by a bona fide religious or denominational organization that offers no programs or degrees and
grants no degrees or certificates other than those specifically designated as religious degrees or
programs.” The school offers degrees from the associate through doctoral levels in Nemenhah
Ministerial Studies. This school is not accredited.

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Their council shows about 20 whites, looking very Mormon I must say, scrubbed clean, about half blonds.
http://iggygarcia.blogspot.com/2007/11/midwest-general-council-of-nemenhah.html
Photos show their attempt at pipes and drums, and Landis trying to look NDN by wearing a serape.
Title: Re: Phil Landis & Nemenhah Band, an Oklehueva or ONAC chapter
Post by: educatedindian on May 27, 2018, 12:50:31 pm
Their "university" program catalog is all of 3 pgs. A huge cash cow for Landis, since all the alt med types that want to claim membership to try to protect themselves from prosecution are required to take it.

This is useless elsewhere. An associates in 1 year? Bachelors in 2? That's half the time of legit degrees.
Then their masters is 4 years, twice as long as usual though it's far less rigorous. And the doctorate is 6 to 8 years, when most programs limit you to 5 years. Basically it's online with occasional meetings with instructors, perhaps at their homes or a coffee shop. No classes.

Yes, they can train you in their martial arts...

And their "university" address is a 2 bedroom apartment. http://ahl.mhdc.com/details.aspx?pr=505

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http://www.uninem.org/uploads/9/5/5/9/9559956/program_catalogue.pdf
Uniform Curriculum for Nemenhah Ministry (UCNM) is required education for all Nemenhah
Ministers...
Associate of Theology (AT) in Nemenhah Ministerial Studies
Tuition: $426 (plus $250 per six-month extension)
Study Term: one (1) year.

Baccalaureate of Theology (BT) in Nemenhah Ministerial Studies
Tuition: $1278 (plus $250 per six-month extension).
Study Term: two (2) years.

Master of Theology (MT) in Nemenhah Ministerial Studies
Tuition: $2130 (plus $250 per each six-month extension).
Study Term: Four (4) years.

Doctor of Philosophy/Doctor of Divinity (PhD/DD) in Nemenhah Ministerial Studies
Tuition: $3408 (plus $250 per each six-month extension).
Study Term: six (6) to eight (8) years.

Associate of Theology (AT) in Nemenhah Culture and Fitness Education
...contemporary and indigenous martial arts. Offered on-site by the Sacred Order
of Hayaht Tsi-Ahn through the University of Nemenhah.

Certificate Level Programs
? Reverse Disease, Restore Health, Renew Spirit - with Dr. Phillip “Cloudpiler” Landis (DD, ND, NAP).
? IIOHM’s Holistic Health Coach Ministry - with Drs. Norm Shealy (PhD, NAP) and Sergey Sorin (PhD, NAP).
? Ehalhts Kowaht Payihts Indigenous Body/Energywork - with Jonathan “Wellamotkin” Landis (NAP).
Tuitions and workshop events vary. Contact us for more information.

Curriculum in Development
Plant Medicine – with Dr. Joan Schrader (PhD, ND, NAP)
Nehm Usui Reiki Ryoho – with Brian Wilkes (MA, NAP) and Joyce Rheal (MA, NAP)

....Submit application and payment to:
University of Nemenhah Office of the Registrar
500 Englewood Rd. Ste. 5 Stockton, MO 65785
Title: Re: Official Nemenhah Online College of Healing
Post by: Sparks on May 31, 2020, 02:32:10 pm
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