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Defend the Sacred:
Anyone familiar with the people in this video?

The woman, Lydia Trauttenberg, is involved in the Crystal Skull Scam 
The Guatemalan man has been referred to as Tata Apolinario.  He may be involved in some kind of upcoming conference about 2012. He is being represented as a carrier of the prophecies. The video was made in Europe.
I think this is also him: Tata Apolinario Chile Pixtun

There is discussion about this happening on this Neopagan blog:


I was wondering if this guy is a curandero, which would make the money issues less clear. But the above link shows they are going to Europe to lead "Mayan Fire Ceremonies."

Some leads on Apolinario Chile Pixtun

--- Quote ---OmeAkaEhekatl Erick Gonzalez was born in Guatemala and moved to the U.S. with his parents when he was 11 years old. In 1978 he was adopted by the Mexiko Teotlkalli Kalpull Koatlkalko and the teacher Tlakaelel and given the name OmeAkaEhekatl in 1978. He was made an Aj Q’ij (Mayan Spiritual Guide and Daykeeper) in 1994 with the Great Confederation of AjQ’ijab of the Original Peoples of Guatemala and received his bundle through the teacher Apolinario Chile Pixtun
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Article from October 2009:

--- Quote --- Apolinario Chile Pixtun is tired of being bombarded with frantic questions about the Mayan calendar supposedly "running out" on Dec. 21, 2012. After all, it's not the end of the world.

Or is it?

Definitely not, the Mayan elder insists. "I came back from England last year and, man, they had me fed up with this stuff."
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Defend the Sacred:
One of the non-Native people posted on The Wild Hunt thread that: "Tata Apolinario, the elder in the video, is hosting a gathering of indigenous people from all over the Americas, both north and south, sponsored by the Mayan confederation."

Since none of us had heard of him or this gathering, we made some inquiries among the usual networks today. We checked in with some of the Indigenous traditional spiritual leaders who are most often invited to legitimate interfaith events. So far no one has heard of him, or this conference.

here is apolinario listed as to speak at one of erick gonzalez' events at a place he calls deer mtn in northern california

this is just one of many events where apolinario is listed to speak at erick gonzalez' personal  events where there is always a fee to for participants to attend

 when a person researches how spiritual frauds run their profit motivated business' , it is interesting that a pattern appears on how they are connected and intertwined to make themselves look legit to the unsuspecting public.

  also interesting is how they have used and piggybacked real spiritual/ceremonial peoples names in their advertisements as possible attendees to their events

 some spiritual frauds also advertise for their business using photos from real events with real ceremonial/spiritual people that have attended to help make themselves look legit to help to lure people to attend their own events,

Pono Aloha:

--- Quote ---also interesting is how they have used and piggybacked real spiritual/ceremonial peoples names in their advertisements as possible attendees to their events

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We recently found a website of a person teaching the fake "Hawaiian spirituality" of Huna advertising the participation of a respected Hawaiian teacher. When the Hawaiian was contacted, he had no idea he was listed and was not in fact teaching. We also found a picture of this Hawaiian on the website that had been taken with the Huna teacher when the Huna person had met him. It is for this reason our native teachers need to be extremely careful of who takes their pictures. We also learned that this Huna teacher often advertises that various Hawaiians are participating in his workshops, then after everyone is there having paid their money, they are told that at the last minute the Hawaiian couldn't come. We have a word for this - hewa! Wrong!


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