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General => Frauds => Topic started by: educatedindian on December 23, 2014, 03:23:30 pm

Title: Many Birds Lodge, Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind," Joanne Proctor
Post by: educatedindian on December 23, 2014, 03:23:30 pm
ETA: Name of the fraud organization added. Originally this was just about what seemed to be one misguided man. His followers seem desperate to continue the group, long after the man's own family admitted him being a fraud.

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These two made the news after the standoff in Australia, white imposter posing as Navajo healer in Australia.

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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-aftermath-dawson-pilates-instructor-mourns-in-native-american-ceremony-20141219-12aq6a.html
Joanne Proctor was teaching Pilates at the exact moment Man Haron Monis stormed the Lindt cafe in Martin Place. Her students that fateful morning were the parents of Katrina Dawson.

No one knew then of the horror unfolding kilometres away that would, by morning, snatch the successful barrister and mother-of-three from her family and the world.

"I literally walked out of their house to Sydney in siege," Ms Proctor says.
 
She and her husband Walks The Wind, a Native American shaman or medicine man, have come to pray in Martin Place every day since the siege's tragic conclusion. They burn sage, a powerful medicine in traditional Navajo culture.

"I'm here on a personal level, for them," she said. "Katrina was the apple of their life. They are a really beautiful family.

"The Native American people believe the smoking of sage brings channels to [the] creator and cleanses the spirit, cleanses the body. So this is a cleansing ceremony...give away the bad, take on the good."...

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Also mentioned here.

http://india.indymedia.org/en/2003/04/4472.shtml
I have a friend, a real Navaho medicine man, Michael Walks the Wind, who lives and practises locally, whose traditions are very similar, and who is keen to come along and swop yarns with kaditcha men, if they are willing, He would probably be a lot more acceptable yet. The Navaho also call their sky god Yahweh, and have canoes, and their priests made very long journeys in them in the past, Michael informs me. He has met an Inuit man, who, he reports, over three years, on his young man’s journey, paddled his kayak from his homeland to New Zealand. It is not likely he was the first to make the trip.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on December 23, 2014, 07:02:45 pm
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Walks the Wind is a Navajo Road Priest who is honoured to be sharing the tradition of the Sweat Lodge ceremony with us all. The sweat lodge (also called purification ceremony) is a hut, typically dome-shaped and made with natural materials, used by the Indigenous people of the Americas for ceremonial steam baths and prayer.

http://mantra.swami.com.au/yoga-event-artists.html (http://mantra.swami.com.au/yoga-event-artists.html)

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THE TRINE OF THE STAR NATIONS - presented by 'Son of the Sun who Walks the Wind', a Navajo Holy Man, a Sun-Keeper, a watcher, a twisted hair, and a true descendant of the Syrian/Lemurian part of the 'Star Seed Trine'

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During my forthcoming talk with you, I pray that I may relate well the History of the Sowing and the Reaping of this our home world. I shall speak for the 'Old Ones', the Wingmakers and the People of the Potters Wheel, who are my lineage and kindred kind. I shall relate the thousand years of trial and error, war and waste, but also I shall speak of the eternal hope that still burns strong, and the faith that fuels it, I shall speak of unity, peace and prosperity. I look forward to our meeting and melding, may you walk in peace, grace and beauty. Wind
http://www.wherevent.com/detail/THE-TRINE-OF-THE-STAR-NATIONS-presented-by-Son-of-the-Sun-who-Walks-the-Wind-a-Navajo-Holy-Man-a-Sun-Keeper-a-watcher-a-twisted-hair-and-a-true-descendant-of-the-SyrianLemurian-part-of-the-Star-Seed-Trine (http://www.wherevent.com/detail/THE-TRINE-OF-THE-STAR-NATIONS-presented-by-Son-of-the-Sun-who-Walks-the-Wind-a-Navajo-Holy-Man-a-Sun-Keeper-a-watcher-a-twisted-hair-and-a-true-descendant-of-the-SyrianLemurian-part-of-the-Star-Seed-Trine)

This may be our Joanne Proctor: http://au.linkedin.com/pub/jo-proctor/72/4b7/839 (http://au.linkedin.com/pub/jo-proctor/72/4b7/839)
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Ingeborg on December 23, 2014, 10:00:57 pm

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Also mentioned here.

http://india.indymedia.org/en/2003/04/4472.shtml
I have a friend, a real Navaho medicine man, Michael Walks the Wind, who lives and practises locally, whose traditions are very similar, and who is keen to come along and swop yarns with kaditcha men, if they are willing, He would probably be a lot more acceptable yet. The Navaho also call their sky god Yahweh, and have canoes, and their priests made very long journeys in them in the past, Michael informs me. He has met an Inuit man, who, he reports, over three years, on his young man’s journey, paddled his kayak from his homeland to New Zealand. It is not likely he was the first to make the trip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdaitcha

So why would an ndn medicine person be particularly interested in talking to kurdaitcha men?

Apart from that, at least this paragraph is worded in a pretty racist way: 'swopping yarns'...

Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: debbieredbear on December 23, 2014, 11:29:40 pm
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The Navaho also call their sky god Yahweh, and have canoes,



ummmm, canoes in the desert??  And a quick search does not turn up  "yahweh" as a Navajo name for god.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on December 24, 2014, 04:45:58 am
http://mantra.swami.com.au/yoga-event-artists.html

I just couldn't help but notice the sneakers he is wearing with his regalia. Strange.

My research shows the Navajo Sky God is called Ahsonnutli.

Yah·weh
 (ya?w?, -w?) also Yah·veh (-v?, -v?) or Jah·veh (ya?v?, -v?) or Jah·weh (ya?w?, -w?)
n.
A name for God thought to represent the original pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton among the ancient Hebrews.

His connection with Lemuria just screams Nuage bs to me.

Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on December 24, 2014, 01:52:09 pm
https://www.facebook.com/joanne.m.proctor
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on December 24, 2014, 02:17:25 pm
https://www.facebook.com/wind.walker.902?fref=ts
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on December 24, 2014, 02:18:51 pm
https://www.facebook.com/groups/309662169184417/

It appears this group is also conducting Sun Dance :(
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on December 24, 2014, 02:30:42 pm
https://www.facebook.com/events/717344758385594/
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: earthw7 on December 24, 2014, 02:54:54 pm
I look at the Facebook pages and have to shake my head,
There so many cultures mixed up together with this guy,
What is Navajo doing wearing feather bonnet?
Why is he having a pipe ceremony?
Why is he uses Lakota words?
then Kiowa words and not Navajo?
Most Navajos called themselves Dine
Our Friends the Dine have a look and this guy don't look Navajo,
This man is a fraud
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on December 24, 2014, 03:07:17 pm
From their FB group:

"The Sacred Chanupa for Wind is completed! 3 Navajo elders travelling from the Dine nation (Wind's People) have blessed it in ceremony and put into the care of Gerardo to carry to Australia next week. Here's a little glimpse. I'll be making the final deposit tomorrow morning. I'll be covering the remaining $200 from your pledges. For we are all related! I love you all! Metakiase."
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on December 24, 2014, 03:10:35 pm
Also from their FB group:

"Kwe Kwe! Thanks to White Wolf and Daniel who have contributed to the Chanupa last weekend. Shane is putting the last touch to the stem, attaching bear claws and is having it blessed by a series of elders. Gerardo is picking it up in Shane's town and will carry it with him to Australia. He is arriving on May 12...

I'm now calling for the last contributions from the hoop we need another $450 to cover the final costs. Please make a deposit to the bank account below or PM me if you'd like to pledge for a contribution but you don't have the funds available just now. Aho Metakuye Oyasin!

Bank: Commonwealth Bank,
Account Name: Wind Sacred Pipe Fund
BSB: 06 2692
Account Number: 1940 1687"

Wow.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: wolfhawaii on December 24, 2014, 06:13:37 pm
"blessed by a series of elders"….????? One good one should be enough, lol. Bunch of frauds, and what is all that junk on that dude's head? Possum nest?
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: milehighsalute on December 26, 2014, 06:02:11 pm
nice buckskin brah.....real navajo

probably safe to put this guy in the fraud section
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: milehighsalute on December 26, 2014, 06:37:49 pm
i called up some of my navajo friends here.....ther are alot of them here in denver........i asked em what a "sun keeper" was........none of them had any idea or ever heard of a sun keeper
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: RedRightHand on December 27, 2014, 12:05:05 am
A variety of disturbing photos here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/309662169184417/

I won't say why, as frauds read this page and we shouldn't give them tips on how to pass, but he doesn't know who he is or what he's doing with that pipe. It's tragically funny, if you know what I mean.

So it looks like he either cut himself up, or has danced once. Neither qualifies him to lead a dance:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152396505170388&set=gm.406757839474849&type=1

Looks like the underlayer and door here is a blue plastic tarp. Expect more illness and death:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=721932541229626&set=gm.373671919450108&type=1
and https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204962990623983&set=pcb.380571415426825&type=1&relevant_count=1
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: debbieredbear on December 27, 2014, 01:54:39 am
I need eye bleach after that first pic.  :o

That "Kwe Kwe" greeting bothers me as I have never heard any but a few First Nations people from northeast Canada use it. Loooking online it seems to be Algonquin. So why would a "Navaho" use it? It's like this idiot thinks all NDNs speak the same and have the same beliefs. Sheesh, I know what the Dine greeting is, but not giving them any hints. ;)
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: milehighsalute on December 27, 2014, 04:57:43 pm
https://www1.commbank.com.au/eforms/yourfeedback/yourfeedback.aspx we can all start by complaining about wind sacred pipe fund HERE

i emailed his supporter "raven" but i had email kicked back

ill check any articles to see if they have discussion forums.........lets spread the word amongst australians about frauds.....of course i will point them all here
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: milehighsalute on December 27, 2014, 05:00:06 pm
by the way it looks like editing is no longer an option here......so i have to make another post

but i wanted to congradulate michael walk the wind for making it to the fraud section!

keep up the good work!! we will be watching you!
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on December 27, 2014, 05:09:55 pm
Sure looks like he has major physical health challenges. Plastic tarped sweat lodges would not be helping his health any either.

MileHighSalute - where did you see his name Michael? I've not made any head way yet in finding out his full name, sure would be good for us to know. His partner's name is Joanne Mary Proctor. She says Windy doesn't use social media except through her Facebook account.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on December 27, 2014, 05:32:35 pm
I see the Michael reference now, heh.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on December 27, 2014, 05:41:44 pm
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Sisters of the Indigo Wheel invite you to attend our monthly gatherings, and can help offer you a way to "call upon the power or medicine of an animal when you are in need of specific talents. As all things in this universe have the same building block - the atom- it is relatively safe to assume that we all communicate thru the common denominator of each atom, which is the creative force or GREAT SPIRIT that lives within the GREAT MYSTERY. It is the teaching of these truths that has brought Native people to understanding, and it is these same truths that may open the door for you".
Led by Navajo Shaman Walks with Wind we come together to celebrate our feminine energy which exists in all mankind. By attending the wheel you then become part of the energy of life, afterlife, rebirth and the honoring of each step along the way. The totem of each direction can be expressed thru a feather, a paw print, a symbol, or a piece of totem animals horn, tooth, bone, hide, fur or fin.
Come join us and seek your path.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sisters-of-the-Indigo-Wheel/216576688356227?sk=info&tab=page_info (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sisters-of-the-Indigo-Wheel/216576688356227?sk=info&tab=page_info)

Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: educatedindian on December 28, 2014, 12:09:58 am
I'm thinking someone should contact the reporters in Australia who covered "Walks" and see if they are interested in a story on him. The original story has been reposted widely, we need to find the original paper and contact that particular reporter. That there is so much coverage of the standoff should bring some attention, and people should rightly be angered at a fraud using a tragedy to raise their profile.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on December 28, 2014, 01:07:34 am
michael.koziol@fairfaxmedia.com.au
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on December 28, 2014, 03:56:45 pm
michael.koziol@fairfaxmedia.com.au

I emailed him this morning and encourage others to also email him.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: debbieredbear on December 28, 2014, 08:10:22 pm
I also emailed him.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: debbieredbear on January 03, 2015, 11:58:20 pm
Never heard back from the reporter. But I did have a thought. If any Aussies are reading this, ask "the shaman" who his people are. He should use specific wording about that, not just names. Not going to say anymore than that. I don't like to give frauds and quacks any hints.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on January 07, 2015, 09:01:04 pm
I've not heard back from the reporter either.

His group is named "The Many Birds Lodge".

Uploaded here are the next event details, they plan to do a "ghost dance".
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Defend the Sacred on January 08, 2015, 07:44:41 pm
they plan to do a "ghost dance".

 :o

Too bad it won't work.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Defend the Sacred on January 08, 2015, 07:49:31 pm
It looks like he's praying to the plastic. And the wood on the fire looks like commercially-cut lumber. If it's also commercially-dried, which all of it is unless specifically labelled otherwise, it has phenol-formaldehyde resin in it, which is toxic when burned.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on January 10, 2015, 10:42:24 pm
I emailed heartconnections@bigpond.com, this is their contact email for events. They have an event coming up soon and are active on Facebook, this email surely is paid close attention to, since money is involved and once people pay their deposit they must email for directions to the location.

I asked for WtW's birth name. I asked who his people are. I identified myself as in the USA.

No response.

He looks to have lost a lot of weight, wonder if he is fasting. Also wonder if he is cutting on himself to produce the scars.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Autumn on January 10, 2015, 10:55:01 pm
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It looks like he's praying to the plastic. And the wood on the fire looks like commercially-cut lumber. If it's also commercially-dried, which all of it is unless specifically labelled otherwise, it has phenol-formaldehyde resin in it, which is toxic when burned.

IMHO, I think that is why he is having heart problems and needs to wear a heart monitor.  He is slowly killing himself with the plastic tarps and the toxic wood.  Hopefully, he does not kill anyone else along with him.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on January 11, 2015, 05:10:22 am
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152724240302795&set=o.309662169184417&type=3&theater

Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on January 11, 2015, 05:11:22 am
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152724240372795&set=o.309662169184417&type=3&theater
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on January 11, 2015, 05:13:28 am
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152724240372795&set=o.309662169184417&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152724240432795&set=o.309662169184417&type=3&theate
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: ShadowDancer on January 11, 2015, 04:33:53 pm
In case the photos vanish from Facebook here they are.

Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Defend the Sacred on January 11, 2015, 05:44:19 pm
So much wrong in these photos.

He has stubble on his chest from shaving it! And... those "scars"? Zoom in. They're not brown keloids, they're either tattoos or worse, maybe just drawn on with a pen! You can hardly get more fake than that. This is a new low. I've never seen anyone do this.

The headdress... the eagle carving looks like the Indonesian-made ones sold on eBay. The skull beads are probably cheap, yak bone knockoffs, but to wear them as decoration he most likely had to unstring a mala - someone's prayer beads. Depending on when and where he bought it, those are sometimes made of human bones. If the beads are real they may have been stolen, and if they're real, for him to be wearing someone else's ancestor's bones is witchcraft.

I'm relieved to see these closeups. He looks a lot like a Jewish guy I knew in the '80s. I'm relieved to see his eyes are the wrong color to be him. I don't believe this guy is even NDN.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Ingeborg on January 11, 2015, 05:58:00 pm
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I don't believe this guy is even NDN.

Plus that he has an - errmmm: rather high forehead for an ndn, see first photo here:
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4535.msg39348#msg39348

I agree his alleged scars look like tattoos. The colour is definitely wrong.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on January 11, 2015, 08:31:10 pm
Here's a link to a photo of some tattoos and some other strange markings he has on his arms. The color of
the tattoos is the same as that of the markings on his chest.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152724240257795&set=o.309662169184417&type=3&theater
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: debbieredbear on January 11, 2015, 11:40:36 pm
Hmmm, oddest looking "sundance" scars I have ever seen. And don't Dine people have a thing about death??

And those tattoos look like he cut himself. If so, he has some serious mental issues.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on January 12, 2015, 02:30:07 am
Link to photos of kacinas (his spelling, not mind! lol) made by Wind.

https://www.facebook.com/winds.wheel/media_set?set=a.103232789852078.6196.100004960715732&type=1&pnref=story
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on January 12, 2015, 02:32:56 am
Wind's son:

https://www.facebook.com/electron.pony?fref=ts
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Ingeborg on January 12, 2015, 03:10:38 am

Loudcrow, your FB links are rather useless. First of all, one must be registered at FB to be able to view them. I refuse to join FB; you might be able to imagine some reasons. Another aspect is: as soon as these photos are taken down, even persons registered at FB will see eff-all. So please, c&p the photos or forget linking.



Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: earthw7 on January 12, 2015, 02:40:28 pm
those are not sundance scar :o
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on January 12, 2015, 07:06:50 pm
I assumed that we were seeing here the initial stages of cult building. But this response from a follower shows how long Walks has been at this guru game. She did not answer my question but did give other valuable information:

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The Star Seed event is one that is being held in Australia not in the US so it's a long way from where you are. 

Thank you for your questions.  I have known this brother in Australia and have been participating with him for over 20 years in Sacred Ceremony and know that he is genuine, is of Navajo heritage and truly lives within the 7 Sacred Laws of Truth, Courage, Intention, Integrity, Passion, Compassion and Humility. 

To do your question justice, I will refer it to Walks the Wind and let him answer your questions in his own words.

Blessings
Louise

heartconnections@bigpond.com


Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on January 12, 2015, 07:23:30 pm
I found this in Google search results but can't seem to track down the original somewhere in the depths of Facebook:

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Michael Walks With Wind Wind is a Navajo elder living in Sydney Australia who has been holding ceremonies of the Red Road for the People, for over 30 years.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on January 12, 2015, 08:04:37 pm
These quotes are from The Many Birds Lodge Facebook page. I also uploaded a clip that explains that his 7 Sacred Laws thing supposedly came to him in a vision.

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Message from Wind ... Because, as most of us know, he will not use a computer with any great success ... This is a message from Wind's Heart ...
Yahteh beautiful people of the Earth Mother and whirling Rainbow of Creation.
My humble thanks for your beautiful response to our new 'public page', it is a 'good thing' that I am able to reach out to you in this way.
Last weeks talk up on Martin 's rooftop was a pure delight to me, especially as I have been a little bound by science and 'medicine' of late! To be amongst such beautiful, seeking Brothers and Sisters, meant a lot both to my Heart and Spirit! I thank you all for the experience!
I have many, many talks that I would love to offer, now that the understanding of the 'Trine of Man', is so eagerly sort in such an open and progressive way.
To name just a few ...
- the settlement of 'Moo' !
- the Atlantean truth, and the beauty that was lost to us all!
- the resurrection of the 'Trine'!
- the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Cataclysms and the resulting re-emergence of humanity!
- the Twelve Parallels!
- the Inner Earth and the 'Second Plane of Creation'!
- the Indigo children and the Blue Star!
I am earnest, and deeply passionate with regards to relating all that I know, to show all that I have seen, and to share all that I have been!
At this time I seek places and venues in which to offer my words and thoughts, I am mostly happy with any space, hall, lounge room, roof top, car park etc!
The last thing that I wish to speak about today, has to do with the Many Birds page itself!
Firstly it is open to all races, creeds, cultures, But, it's contents and aims will be governed by the Seven Arrows of Law, it shall only ever contain expressions of Love, Light, Grace and Beauty. There is no place on this page for 'judgement', 'condemnation', anger, persecution, profiteering, politics etc
Please understand that only events offered or sponsored by the Many Birds People may be 'advertised' on this Page!
In time as we find our way beyond 'fledgling', we intend to open our page further to include the crafts, gifts and ceremonials of those we have come to know, until then, I humbly thank you for your understanding in this!
Many events, held in the Mountains North of Sydney, are planned for 2015. They include many Ceremonials and Modalities designed to engage and enlighten all of us during our time together in nature!
There is always much to learn on our journeys together, and always there is companionship, laughter and serenity!
I so look forward to time with you, my eyes see you, my heart feels you
Aho mituk oyasin
WIND

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Message from Wind:
Yahteh, I bid you welcome to the place of THE MANY BIRDS. As the name implies, there is no segregation, just many beautiful expressions of the same thing.
I am of the First Nations, a Dineh and a Priest of the Red Road. I offer the Seven Arrows of Law and Ceremony to those who are drawn to the Indigo and to the Red road of The People.
“You are the bow, the arrows are your truth and expression, give them their release.
Aho Wind
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on January 12, 2015, 08:17:59 pm
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Hey beautiful people, many have asked for my proposed programme of Ceremonials for the next few months. I offer these dates with my prayers to the Mystery, and hope in all ways, that I have chosen days that may work well for all our myriad needs.
In late May, Joanne and I will be heading North along the Coast to visit our many friends, and I pray new acquaintances, that live along the way ! Our destination is the Lyell Deer Sanctuary in South QLD, where we hope to stop for a while. Beautiful 'elder' friends, Des and Maureen, are the custodians of the 'sanctuary' that they have developed over many dedicated years. In all ways, these beautiful people are representatives of and related to, those gentle animals that share the land with them as family.
It is our intention to assist Des and Maureen as we can, and I pray that in all ways I may lend them my body's strength and my humble resources in whatever way that is called for.
I humbly ask that you visit their website and see for yourself, the beauty that has come from their Hearts and Hands.
As it is my deepest wish to serve all who come to lodge with the best I have, I do need to limit the number of guests who attend. If you are interested in any of the following proposed dates, then I would humbly ask that you book your place early.
Again my humble thanks for your patience with all things, much beauty, much peace
Wind
UPCOMING EVENTS
SUN 18th Jan Woman's Lodge 11am
24th, 25th, 26th Jan Yengo Star Seed Event
SUN 8th Feb Mixed Lodge 11am
SUN 22nd Feb Men's Lodge 2pm
SUN 1st Mar Mixed Lodge 11am
SAT 14th Mar Mixed Lodge 2pm
SAT 28th Mar Men's Lodge 11am
3rd to 7th April Ceremonials at Yengo. Quest
for the Self, Dance for all
Beings !

He is definitely seriously physically ill. A cult leader being this ill can trigger even more extreme devotion in his followers.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on January 12, 2015, 08:26:59 pm
2013 photos uploaded here
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on January 13, 2015, 05:10:43 pm
His latest post (made January 13, 2015 about 2am EST):

Yahteh my Beautiful Brothers and Sisters, I greet you and see you in my Hearts.

For over half my life, I have worked as a stone Cutter as a means of making my way in life. When I need to relax and take my mind in other directions, I turn to my 'pocket' knife and Tree relations, and I ask them to allow me to 'meld' with them. I whittle and carve beautiful pieces of tree that offer themselves, and in all ways I find a deep calm as I immerse myself in each creation.

I have a desire at this time to acquire a car, (a van of some sort ), so that I may move with some autonomy along the East Coast, to serve the People. It is my hope that I may sell some of my favourite pieces of wood carving to achieve this.

As I value Hearts, Minds and Souls above all else, I cannot place a dollar value on these more 'physical' aspects of my passion. I shall have to humbly ask for your help in this.

I finished carving this Didgeridoo piece about five years ago. It was a hollow branch that had fallen from the top of a very old, lightening struck, Iron Bark Tree. It took me fives years with an old Timer pen knife, and was truly a labour of love that took whatever time I could spare, amongst my many projects. The 'Body' of the piece is covered with totemic symbols from both 'Turtle' Islands, and depicts two entwined creation stories. I was once offered $2000 for this piece, I was a bit over whelmed by that, it is still a piece of tree after all !

This beautiful piece of willow Tree (see photo of Meteor Katchina) allowed me to create the aspect of a 'Falling Star Katchina'. It was one of forty two that I carved some years ago while I was in recovery after Hospital treatment for a variety of long term issues.

I gave the other forty one to beautiful, in need people that I met along my path, and I pray that their 'relationship' has been one of healing and joyful interaction.

This final Katchina carving! I now offer for sale in the hope that it may aide my journey along the road of service. I do not know if it has a value, I can only ask for a realistic assessment from anyone who may be interested !

Those who know me, know that I have little interest in possessions or wealth, you know me for my words and giveaways, I call out to you, can you help me acquire this car, can you help me along the red road of my Service?

With humble thanks, with beauty and grace

Wind
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: loudcrow on January 13, 2015, 05:53:51 pm
Posted by one of his followers:

Many Birds!

The weekend was amazing. Thank you so much for the lessons of humility and courage to relate intimately with each other. I feel blessed to be a winged turtle...

Some of you manifested the will to meet with Gerardo (Mariman: Spirit of the Condor), either for the overnight Peyote ceremony (Conference of the Eagle and the Condor) or for the Offering Ceremony, Circle of Songs or Sweatlodge. Wind have confirmed he would come with Joanne (if all goes well!). So here are the details for the weekend. If you want to come but the money is an issue, let me know and I'll sort it out with Gerardo. Otherwise, please contact Claudia Echeverria who is organising this time around: clauecheve@gmail.com

By the way Claudia is an amazing crystal bowl healer and teacher... also a powerful, wise woman! I know she would love to meet the singing bowls healers of the tribe.

3rd Condor & Eagle Southern Gathering - Australia Tour 2014_Blue Mountains:

*Date: 14th & 15th June 2014

*Venue: 14 Thompson St, Lawson. (Close to Bullaburra train station)
- Tents are welcome, however they won't be necessary.
- Herbal teas and light food would be provided.

*Program:

Saturday 14 June
- Reception 11:00 am- 1:00pm
- Lunch break 1:00 pm – 3:00 pm
- Offering Ceremony 3:00 pm- 5:30 pm
- Circle of traditional Songs 6:00 pm -8:00 pm
- Light Dinner 8:00 pm-10:00 pm
- All night long Prayer Ceremony 10:00 – Sunrise

Sunday 15 June
- Light breakfast 8:00 am- 10:00 am
- Sweat lodge Ceremony 10 :00 am – 12:30 pm
- Closure 1:00 pm

*Exchange:
Offering ceremony: $40
Circle of traditional songs: $40
All long night ceremony: $120
Sweatlodge: $40

Full weekend: $220

*Bookings: clauecheve@gmail.com
Acct name: Claudia Echeverria
BsB: 062303
Acct no: 10573035
Reference: Condor + Last name

* Things to bring: Shawl or blankets, cushions, swimmers & sarong (sweatlodge), rattles, medicine drums, warm comfortable clothes, drink bottle.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on March 06, 2015, 07:25:33 pm
Some newer photos from the The Many Birds Lodge Facebook page uploaded here.

Is that a blue tarp in the foreground of the lodge construction photo?
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on July 02, 2015, 06:33:42 pm
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8s6xe-lctYg&feature=youtu.be

In this recent video, Wind says he is 61 years old and Navajo. He claims he has the right to do the many sweat lodges he does because the Lakota gave the ceremony to Navajo,  including his family.

Wind is visibly still physically quite ill.

This video is worth watching to get a good sense of the man and his claims.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: wolfhawaii on July 02, 2015, 06:50:25 pm
Doesn't look "Navajo" (why would he call himself that) and why does he have an Aussie accent? I call BS.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Defend the Sacred on July 03, 2015, 03:39:01 pm
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8s6xe-lctYg&feature=youtu.be

In this recent video, Wind says he is 61 years old and Navajo. He claims he has the right to do the many sweat lodges he does because the Lakota gave the ceremony to Navajo,  including his family.

Wind is visibly still physically quite ill.

This video is worth watching to get a good sense of the man and his claims.

That. Is. An. Australian.

His voice, his mannerisms, there is nothing "Navajo" about him. There's nothing Indigenous about him. How stupid or desperate must these people be to believe that guy is Native. It's shocking. I'm not going to say it here, not going to give him hints on how to pass, but I am roaring with laughter at some of the gestures he makes. OMG. It's especially funny when he tries to put on the Tonto Speak, in an Aussie accent, while doing those things.

He probably has some Italian ancestors. Or odd-looking English who were shipped there when it was a prison colony. He doesn't look like he has any Indigenous Australian heritage, either. 

This is outrageous. How does he fool people? Hey, white people doing pay to pray with this guy... You have been duped, what this guy does is dangerous. Look how sick he is. That's your future.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on July 04, 2015, 04:53:43 pm
Michael "Walks with Wind"'s partner Joanne Mary Proctor is certainly enjoying the Pretendian Atrocity Game. I uploaded a Facebook image here. I do believe she has her  western movie-isms badly mangled.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on July 04, 2015, 05:19:54 pm
One of the many ways Michael and Joanne Mary Proctor rip people off is by passing people's work as their own, without attribution.

The work they rip off happens to be bogus itself, along the lines of "animal totems" written by Nuagers.

Example:

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Sisters of the Indigo Wheel
August 7, 2012 at 1:24pm ·
One of the greatest gifts a Hawk medicine person can give the world is their visions of a better and brighter future. Visionaries are always ahead of their time and it’s not easy seeing what others are not ready to see.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=531415123539047&id=216576688356227 (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=531415123539047&id=216576688356227)

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One of the greatest gifts a Hawk medicine person can give the world is their visions of a better and brighter future. Visionaries are always ahead of their time and it's not easy seeing what others are not ready to see.

https://morningstar.netfirms.com/hawktotem.html (https://morningstar.netfirms.com/hawktotem.html) ( I don't know if Lynx Graywolf is the original author.)

On that theme: "Hawk medicine" from Jamie Sams http://tribes.tribe.net/animalguides/thread/6d5d2aba-6b14-4599-a14b-175b95cac9be (http://tribes.tribe.net/animalguides/thread/6d5d2aba-6b14-4599-a14b-175b95cac9be)

We know Michael is not Navajo, which means he is lying. Michael "Walks with Wind" and Joanne Mary Proctor are lying. And even if he was NDN, what he is doing is wrong.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: AClockworkWhite on July 04, 2015, 06:31:55 pm
Breaks The Wind is hilarious yet dangerous with all this mumbo-jumbo. I cannot believe in 2015 that people fall for these charlatans.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on July 04, 2015, 07:32:35 pm
Breaks the Wind and wife are endlessly horrible. I went back to the original newspaper articles on this duo and am struck by this bit - Joanne Proctor sprinkling "sage ashes" on people's flower offerings at a massacre memorial.

Breaks the Wind wears diseased looking animal nests on his head and carved skull beads. Joanne sprinkles ash on other people's flowers. Yuck.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-aftermath-dawson-pilates-instructor-mourns-in-native-american-ceremony-20141219-12aq6a.html (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-aftermath-dawson-pilates-instructor-mourns-in-native-american-ceremony-20141219-12aq6a.html)

Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Defend the Sacred on July 04, 2015, 07:53:49 pm
... "smoking of sage." I can see what that's going to lead to among the nuagers.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: AClockworkWhite on July 05, 2015, 04:17:20 am
Breaks the Wind and wife are endlessly horrible. I went back to the original newspaper articles on this duo and am struck by this bit - Joanne Proctor sprinkling "sage ashes" on people's flower offerings at a massacre memorial.

Breaks the Wind wears diseased looking animal nests on his head and carved skull beads. Joanne sprinkles ash on other people's flowers. Yuck.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-aftermath-dawson-pilates-instructor-mourns-in-native-american-ceremony-20141219-12aq6a.html (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-aftermath-dawson-pilates-instructor-mourns-in-native-american-ceremony-20141219-12aq6a.html)
OMG I am mortified, Piff. I am seriously skeeved out right now. This is like White Ego woman running around with that rawhide Jumbotron she beats on with her friends ashes in there. Ashes being thrown around in regards to death/s by whites really trips me out.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: earthw7 on July 05, 2015, 02:04:33 pm
Don't the Navajo have this thing about the dead they don't talk about the dead
nor do they have ceremonies plus they use a lot of cedar so strange when these fakes make up stuff
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on July 05, 2015, 02:56:51 pm
Don't the Navajo have this thing about the dead they don't talk about the dead
nor do they have ceremonies plus they use a lot of cedar so strange when these fakes make up stuff

My thought too.

These are not accurate Navajo practices. These frauds are being so disrespectful and insulting.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on July 05, 2015, 03:07:11 pm
Breaks the Wind and wife are endlessly horrible. I went back to the original newspaper articles on this duo and am struck by this bit - Joanne Proctor sprinkling "sage ashes" on people's flower offerings at a massacre memorial.

Breaks the Wind wears diseased looking animal nests on his head and carved skull beads. Joanne sprinkles ash on other people's flowers. Yuck.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-aftermath-dawson-pilates-instructor-mourns-in-native-american-ceremony-20141219-12aq6a.html (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-aftermath-dawson-pilates-instructor-mourns-in-native-american-ceremony-20141219-12aq6a.html)
OMG I am mortified, Piff. I am seriously skeeved out right now. This is like White Ego woman running around with that rawhide Jumbotron she beats on with her friends ashes in there. Ashes being thrown around in regards to death/s by whites really trips me out.

Yeah, this use of ash and all their other practices are abhorrent. They and White Ego woman - double yuck. I'm a white lady, almost as old as Breaks the Wind, and even I know better.

I have a visceral reaction to this use of ashes, it is just so wrong on so many levels. I assume they are telling people this use is a Navajo tradition, what an appalling false claim.

Doing a quick survey of various religious practices - I don't see any use of ashes like this traditionally - I see ashes used for repentance and exorcism type of themes, no matter what, it is not okay for Joanne to be sprinkling them on flower offerings at a massacre site. Much less misrepresenting her actions as that of a culture not her own.

Joanne Mary Proctor refers to herself as a "water pourer for the people".


Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on July 05, 2015, 03:17:21 pm
Breaks the Wind and Joanne Proctor build "medicine circles" at various sacred sites in Australia, this is all kinds of wrong.

Breaks claims past military service:

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Our drive from the border to the Lyell Deer Sanctuary was also a day of exploring along nature - scaped mountain roads that were filled with old memories for me; (..)  the town of Cunungra that hosted the Australian Armies Jungle Warfare Training Centre. (good and bad memories there from my life in 'green', lot's of loud noise, loud training staff and even louder hangovers!)

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1106779126002846&id=998738110140282 (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1106779126002846&id=998738110140282)

I'm uploading a photo of one of their "pipe carriers".

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Aunty Louise Voets, known as "Heartsong" Woman of the People is a Pipe Carrier, acting Grandmother of the Many Birds Hoop. She has walked the Red Road with Uncle Wind since the early 90’s. Aunty Louise will be speaking on behalf of Uncle Wind, featured in the film of the White Buffalo Calf Woman stories and how the Lakota nation received the sacred pipe for their ceremonies, the Canupa!

https://m.facebook.com/oddlywholesome/photos/gm.1636730653207274/1593373254264664/?type=1 (https://m.facebook.com/oddlywholesome/photos/gm.1636730653207274/1593373254264664/?type=1)

Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: debbieredbear on July 05, 2015, 04:21:44 pm
OMG! This just keps getting weirder and weirder! Navajos with pipe carriers?? And that voets woman looks like she got her inspirations from a cartoon book. What is wrong with these people? Good grief, I learned more about Navajos from Tony Hillerman novels than this Walking Fart could ever know. And that's not a lot.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Defend the Sacred on July 05, 2015, 07:07:51 pm
That photo
Breaks claims past military service:

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Our drive from the border to the Lyell Deer Sanctuary ...
...

I'm uploading a photo of one of their "pipe carriers".

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Aunty Louise Voets, known as "Heartsong" Woman of the People is a Pipe Carrier, acting Grandmother of the Many Birds Hoop. She has walked the Red Road with Uncle Wind since the early 90’s. Aunty Louise will be speaking on behalf of Uncle Wind, featured in the film of the White Buffalo Calf Woman stories and how the Lakota nation received the sacred pipe for their ceremonies, the Canupa!

https://m.facebook.com/oddlywholesome/photos/gm.1636730653207274/1593373254264664/?type=1 (https://m.facebook.com/oddlywholesome/photos/gm.1636730653207274/1593373254264664/?type=1)

We have a thread on that Deer Sanctuary. They've had ceremony-sellers there, for their "Cowboys and Indians Parties."

That woman in the photo... that is horrific.  Frauds, taught by frauds, who were taught by frauds, who were taught by some fraud who read a book or two.... Then this horrorshow is what you wind up with.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Defend the Sacred on July 05, 2015, 07:13:14 pm
https://www.stickytickets.com.au/26628/a_journey_on_two_turtles__film_launch.aspx

Tickets page where you can pay to hear these con artists pontificate about stuff they know nothing about:

"The interviews will be revealing many aspects of the Red Road, the Native American spiritual path. It will include teachings about the ceremonies of Sweatlodge, Vision Quest and Sun Dance. Charismatic elders will share the stories of the Prophecy of the Seven Fires, the Meeting of the Condor and the Eagle Prophecy and other stories with wisdom relevant to our times.

"The purpose of this project is to share with a large audience the vitality of the Red Road movement, uniting hundreds of thousand people, including over 250,000 in the Native American Church (NAC) and rapidly developing in South America."

FB Event Page: https://www.facebook.com/events/1629755593904780/
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on July 05, 2015, 07:20:59 pm
Unfortunately the offensiveness only gets more offensive. I practically feel like I should apologize for being the messenger at this point. But these frauds are important to expose. I've uploaded more photos here, this is of Wind and his son, Electron Pony. I've not found a name for Pony either.

Note the red headband, this looks to be a common ingredient in their events.

Joanne Mary Proctor may have the maiden name Proctor, she refers to a Mary Proctor on Facebook as her mother.

Wind has had the cell phone 0432670015 at some point. And they lived or live in Kings Langley, a suburb of Sydney, New South Wales,Australia. All this is public information, Wind has asked people to contact him at this phone number and also to give him a ride from his home with this description.



Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on July 05, 2015, 07:22:19 pm
More of Electron Pony
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on July 05, 2015, 07:38:57 pm
Aunty Louise Voets is also a healer, doncha know. On her Heartsong Centre page she promotes Jamie Sams "Sacred Path Cards", she offers readings using them.

I was told awhile ago that my query concerning Wind's genealogy would be passed on to him, oddly enough, I've not heard back.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on July 05, 2015, 11:36:23 pm
Electron Pony, Michael Walks the Wind's son, is named Ben Rosser. So there is a possibility that Michael is Michael Rosser.

I pieced this together by first noting that Joanne Mary Proctor referred to him on Facebook in the past as Ben. Added that to Ben's talk of his work place, then found a customer feedback letter he had written that included his entire name. Then a friend also working on this found Ben Rosser's Myspace page https://myspace.com/area593 (https://myspace.com/area593)

Ben Rosser has a site called "The Knowledge Keepers, a different approach to understanding crystals".

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Ben Rosser is a part Navajo, Native American, who has a deep connection to the Sacred, regularly attending traditional ceremony. Ben also has a strong technological connection, beginning software development at the age of twelve, followed by circuit design and electronics development a couple of years later, and through working with these skills over time Ben has developed a very sound understanding of all aspects of computing, all the way through to the development of small scale CPUs and computational systems.

Recent events have seen Ben exposed to a new approach to understanding and working with crystals, especially varieties of Quartz, and has since been developing, testing and simulating a wide range of sound computational theory based around various mechanical and electromagnetic waves combined with the internal structure of crystals.

Ben has a strong belief that the information needs to be provided to those seeking to learn it, in order to give them a more tangible understanding of the uses and application of crystals. Contact Ben at ben@theknowledgekeepers.com

 

http://theknowledgekeepers.com/index.php/about-us (http://theknowledgekeepers.com/index.php/about-us)
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: AClockworkWhite on July 06, 2015, 04:02:05 am
"...understanding crystals"   ??? Jiiiiminy chrissmass.  It so often comes down to those dang clear rocks. It's kinda aggravating. LOL
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Autumn on July 06, 2015, 11:02:27 am
Electron Pony, Michael Walks the Wind's son, is named Ben Rosser. So there is a possibility that Michael is Michael Rosser.

I pieced this together by first noting that Joanne Mary Proctor referred to him on Facebook in the past as Ben. Added that to Ben's talk of his work place, then found a customer feedback letter he had written that included his entire name. Then a friend also working on this found Ben Rosser's Myspace page https://myspace.com/area593 (https://myspace.com/area593)

Ben Rosser has a site called "The Knowledge Keepers, a different approach to understanding crystals".

Quote
Ben Rosser is a part Navajo, Native American, who has a deep connection to the Sacred, regularly attending traditional ceremony. Ben also has a strong technological connection, beginning software development at the age of twelve, followed by circuit design and electronics development a couple of years later, and through working with these skills over time Ben has developed a very sound understanding of all aspects of computing, all the way through to the development of small scale CPUs and computational systems.

Recent events have seen Ben exposed to a new approach to understanding and working with crystals, especially varieties of Quartz, and has since been developing, testing and simulating a wide range of sound computational theory based around various mechanical and electromagnetic waves combined with the internal structure of crystals.

Ben has a strong belief that the information needs to be provided to those seeking to learn it, in order to give them a more tangible understanding of the uses and application of crystals. Contact Ben at ben@theknowledgekeepers.com

 

http://theknowledgekeepers.com/index.php/about-us (http://theknowledgekeepers.com/index.php/about-us)

Thanks, Piff, it is amazing how you find this stuff.

I gotta tell you, Ben, if your father is not Navajo, that makes you NOT NAVAJO -- got it?  NOT NAVAJO!!  What in the heck is wrong with being just plain Australian?  Is it some kind of disease or something?  But maybe it is not profitable being just an Australian.

And any Australians out there reading this who are followers of Wind, just look at the guy.  He is killing himself with his sweat lodges using plastic tarps and chemically treated wood and that is what is in store for you!

And the crystal thingy.  I suspect some Little Grandmother influence there, but so far on his website which is under construction he does not talk about saving the world by planting crystals infused with love back into the earth -- when the crystals have already been ripped out of the earth -- where they should have stayed in the first place!
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: earthw7 on July 06, 2015, 02:50:39 pm
This is so bad two white guys pretending to be Navajo that look like something out of this world.
Then put different culture together that are so far from Navajo belief system.  :o
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on July 06, 2015, 05:03:53 pm
Check this nonsense out:

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The Many Birds Lodge
.... This is a message from our brother Wind ...

Yahteh beautiful People, I greet you and see you in my Heart.

I write these words with an open Heart and open Mind, and I pray, with Grandmothers love and blessings.

A White Moon rose over me last night, it was full and bright, and as I stood there 'bathed in it's light', I realised in all ways sacred, that I am so deeply grateful for it's presence upon my life's path. It's light touched me, and re-awakened my gratitude for my placement here upon this 'other' most beautiful Turtle Island.

There are 2700 of 'the People' here in Australia, we ARE separated from home, but I believe that in our Hearts and Souls, we are forever connected to the land of our Grandmothers and Grandfathers. This connection is not tenuous or threadbare, for our hearts beat and sing the same songs of hope and recognition that our Fathers did. We pray, we dance, and we hold to our languages and ceremonials as strongly as we hold to our love of the Laws of Massau'a and our Mother the Earth.

Though we feel in our bodies some loss of connection, we remain true to our path, the path of consciousness!!

In Australia, there are no 'Burning Bush's', Caring Obama's or prejudicial Palin's, we have no school shootings, no bombings, no virulent war machine that absorbs our unemployed as gun fodder, we do not have Generals and PENTAGONS demanding homage, we do not yet have drones or storm troopers or white supremacists! What we have instead, is a Sisterhood and Brotherhood of ALL colours, ALL races, all creeds and hopes combined, we DO NOT fight one another at the cost of our innocence, or our love of the Sacred Mystery.

Segregation is what holds the U.S.A apart from itself, it is the source of the unrest and judgement it extends to the rest of the world, it is indeed a fear filled place for those who are bored with life's true beauty and bounty.

I stand here in Australia, I am now sixty years of age, I am myself, and I state this ..

" I am of the People, I DO NOT see the world through 'Cody's iron eyes', I merely follow the direction of my own Elders back home. I do not fold at words like imposter, fraud or Wanna-be, I DO NOT blink in indignation and gasp out my defence, I DO NOT need too!! I am a small part of something greater, I am not power filled, I am in fact a small thing with a great Heart. I do not ever profit from another's loss, in-fact I adore the ideal, that I may continuously 'give-away' all that I have and all that I am!" (In this, I am directed by both my Elders and their understanding of my Visions and their purpose)!!

In all ways I serve the Mystery as readily as the Salmon or the Hawk, and I know that in ALL of me, I feel only contentment and the small privilege of doing my work well.

When I rang home last night to seek some solace from my Grandmother Spider, I was told only this, "Walk well, let your actions speak for you!"

I am here, standing upon my Mother, I am bathed by the light of the White Moon, and in ALL of me, I am deeply grateful.

WIND

https://m.facebook.com/998738110140282/photos/pb.998738110140282.-2207520000.1436140014./1006076172739809/?type=1&theater
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Defend the Sacred on July 06, 2015, 05:51:10 pm
Australians who are googling "Uncle Wind" or "Walks with Wind" or any of his other aliases, trying to decide whether to go to one of his fake, dangerous ceremonies,

Ask this guy who his people are. If he says, "The World" or "All People," you may find that poetic, but that's not what we're trying to teach you here.

Ask him who his Native American Elders are. Ask him who his "Navajo" Elders are. Ask him what community he is from. Ask him what his clan is.

Bring these answers here, or just google the words he gives you. If he answers these questions wrong, and he will, you will have it by your own insight and research. These frauds say, "Listen to your heart." Well, yes, listen to your heart, but don't shut off your brain. We need both to be full human beings.

All the "Navajo" communities have websites, phone numbers, and elders with wi-fi. If he gives you some story about hidden people off the grid somewhere, it's a lie. Native Americans are the ethnic group with the highest proportion of members online, using new media. Indian Country is a tiny place. If this guy has even met a real Native, one of us will either know that person, or know someone who knows them.

Get away from this fraud. Don't support him. Expose him. Tell your friends. This man and his minions will lead you into a bad place.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: AClockworkWhite on July 07, 2015, 12:23:00 am
For anyone lurking trying to decide what's what about this guy-- I will tell you with 100% certainty that he is not representing the Dine/Navajo culture with ANY accuracy whatsoever. If you need the opinion of my friends and relatives who are from that tribe, that can be arranged for you.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: twoturtles on August 24, 2015, 09:10:20 pm
Hi!
It makes me sad to see my Uncle in this section of the forum, simply based on some social media posts... As I know him, his record is impeccable and I've never heard of anyone having had a bad experience with him. He is a humble veteran and stone mason who has dedicated his life to be in service. Everyday he visits cancer patients, sick children and assists veteran and people with addictions, never expecting anything in return. He lives with a meagre pension and only ask for small donations for his public sweats to cover costs. Michael "Walks the Wind" is Navajo and has lived most of his life in Australia, hence the accent and manners... Things are a bit different in Australia, but there is a number of NDNs that live there and some hold perfectly legit ceremonies. Uncle Wind is one of them. Please have consideration when you choose to tarnish someone's reputation publicly. I would invite you to let him know through the Many Birds page on Facebook that you have reported him on this forum. Thank you for your consideration.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Smart Mule on August 24, 2015, 10:12:36 pm
Hi!
It makes me sad to see my Uncle in this section of the forum, simply based on some social media posts...

The social media posts show that he has no clue about the culture(s) he is portraying.

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As I know him, his record is impeccable and I've never heard of anyone having had a bad experience with him. He is a humble veteran and stone mason who has dedicated his life to be in service. Everyday he visits cancer patients, sick children and assists veteran and people with addictions, never expecting anything in return. He lives with a meagre pension and only ask for small donations for his public sweats to cover costs.

So every day he visits with people and lies to them? Filling their heads with newage woowoo drivel?

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Michael "Walks the Wind" is Navajo and has lived most of his life in Australia, hence the accent and manners... Things are a bit different in Australia, but there is a number of NDNs that live there and some hold perfectly legit ceremonies. Uncle Wind is one of them. Please have consideration when you choose to tarnish someone's reputation publicly.

If you think his ceremonies are remotely legit then I feel sorry for you. No one is tarnishing his reputation. He has taken it upon himself to attempt to be a public figure. If he chooses to deceive and mislead people then he needs to deal with the consequences.

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I would invite you to let him know through the Many Birds page on Facebook that you have reported him on this forum. Thank you for your consideration.

Many people who post on this forum choose do do so with anonymity because there have been threats from frauds who have bee exposed in the past. No one here needs to put themselves at risk. If he is able to navigate facebook then he is more than welcome to come here and discuss our concerns and straighten things out.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Smart Mule on August 24, 2015, 10:43:15 pm
2turtles, are you presenting at this event as you have in the past?

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> K.C.A.I. GATHERING of THE FOUR WINDS NOVEMBER 6TH/7TH/8TH. 2015.
> $40 — Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
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> K.C.A.I. GATHERING of THE FOUR WINDS NOVEMBER 6TH/7TH/8TH. 2015.
> ATTENDANCE COSTS.
> OPENING CEREMONY Friday 6th. November.
> ADULTS . $40.00pp Students +Concession card Holders $25.00
> CHILDREN 6 – 14 Years - $15.00 / Under 6 Years N/C
> Family Pass (2 Adults / 2 Children ) $95.00.
> WEEKEND : Friday / Saturday/ Sunday. 6th/7th./8th. November.2015.
> Early Bird Booking Before 30th. September 2015
> Adults $275.00pp, includes all Meals + Camping
> $325.00pp after 30th. September.
> $50.00 per Child to attend + $30.00 Play Group per day (supervised activities).
> Children 4yrs. + Under N/C to attend the Gathering. $30.00 Play Group daily.
> Family Pass. 2 Adults / 2 Children Full Weekend $650.00
> Groups of 10 Adults + from Interstate or Overseas 250pp.
> Limited Spaces available in K.C.A.I. Longhouse- Mattresses + Sheets supplied $100.00 Deposit to book your Space now.- No Refunds. Or BYO Tent.
> Due to the sacred nature of this gathering , ceremonial protocol etc. It is important to consider before bringing your child/children that they will be aware/respectful throughout the weekend. All adults are responsible for supervising their children at all times to avoid any disruptions during the Gathering. There will be the option for parents attending workshops/ceremonies to pay for supervision where appropriate. There will be a limit over the weekend for the number of places available for children to attend to maintain the spirit of the Gathering. We appreciate your understanding and support in this matter.
> Bookings Email: info@kupidabin.org Web: www.kupidabin.org Ph 07 32894270
> Direct Deposit : Bendigo Bank B.S.B. 633 108 Acc. No. 1469 27488
> Account Name Kupidabin Cultural Association Inc. EFTPOS Available.
> KUPIDABIN GATHERING OF THE FOUR WINDS
> Venue: Kupidabin Wilderness (next to Lyell Deer Sanctuary)
> 7 Lyell Court Mt. Samson Queensland 4520.
> 6th./7th./8th. November 2015.
> Hosted by Kupidabin Cultural Association Inc
> OPENING CEREMONY
> Friday 6th. November 2015 7.30pm-10.30pm.
> M.C. Sherrie McLean: Introduction and Apologies
> Opening Speech: Mark Furner M.P. / Patron K.C.A.I.
> Opening Prayer and Acknowledgments: Aunty Jenny Thomson Wakka/Wakka/Kabi.
> Aboriginal Didgeridoo /Lighting the Ceremonial Fire Traditional Brushing
> Aboriginal Cultural Dance Performance .
> Welcome Song of All Nations –Native American Navajo Elder ‘Walk the Wind’ with Drummers from all Nations.
> Performance by Te Tai Mauri Kapa Haka Group.
> Duet by Harata and Wimunu on Guitar
> Performance by Pacific Island Dance Group
> Performance by Middle-Eastern inspired Silk Road Tribal Collective
> Performance by Nii Armah from Guana-African Drums/Song /Dance.
> Close: Thank You from President K.C.A.I.
> Chocolate and Coffee Heaven with Lukas and Pavla will be on site all weekend for light Snacks and Organic Drinks at very reasonable prices.
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> KUPIDABIN GATHERING of The FOUR WINDS
> WEEKEND PROGRAM SATURDAY 7TH/ SUNDAY 8TH.November 2015
> THEME: A PLACE OF LOVE AND BALANCE.
> Saturday 7th. November
> 6am- 10am Sunrise Ceremonial Sweat Lodge with Navajo Medicine Man “Wind’ and Frank Eagle-Eye.
> 8.30am-10.30am Continental Breakfast available in Longhouse.
> 11am. – 12.30pm. Coming together Ceremony with Robin Clayfield – EARTHCARE EDUCATION. PLANTING SEEDS FOR PERSONAL AND GLOBAL TRANSFORMATION.
> 12.30-1.30pm. Lunch
> 1.30- 2.30pm Flute Dreaming Circle with Claudia Ocean.
> 3pm -4.30pm Pipe Ceremony in Medicine Wheel with Walk the Wind
> 4.30-5.30 pm Bush Tucker Tasting and Talk Circle with Aunty Jenny Thomson
> 5.30-6.30pm B.B.Q.
> 7pm. Sharp Lighting Ceremonial Peace Fire by an Elder –Native American Tradition followed by Meditation – .
> 7.30 -9.30pm Drumming, Story Telling , Talk Circle with Navajo Medicine Man ‘Wind’ and Richard Little Feather. ( request by Elders – Medicine Drums only.)
> 9.30pm Walk the Wind will close the Circle.
> Participants may stay longer if they wish to do so.
> Aunty Jenny Thompson with Wiruundja will be available during any ‘free time’ for a Talk Circle at the ‘Humpy’ Site
> Early Bookings required for the Sweat Lodge. – Limited Numbers.
> Sunday 8th. November.
> 7am -8am. Aboriginal DREAMING Circle with Aunty Jenny Thompson
> 8am – 9am Continental Breakfast.
> 9am – 11am. Maori Workshops and Dancing.
> Workshops to be confirmed.
> 11.30am Auction- It would be appreciated if Participants could donate a suitable item for the auction - funds raised will go towards the continued development of K.C.A.I. Cultural Centre.
> 2.30pm -3.30pm Closing Banquet.
> 3.30pm. 4.30pm Closing Pipe Ceremony with Walk the Wind.
> Aunty Jenny will still be available for Aboriginal Talk Circles during the day when required.
> Richard Little Feather will be available in ‘Free Time’ during the weekend for talks on Medicine Power and ‘How to use it’
> Richard was born in Pennsylvania U.S.A. and was taught his tribal ways by a Lakota Sioux Elder.
> Navajo Dineh (The Peoples) Elder and Road Priest ‘Walks the Wind’ has been serving the people of East Coast Australia for the past 32 years.
> Message from Wind ---- Ceremony and the Sacred Laws are a way of life, one that can encompass all that you express and create. To walk the ‘medicine road’, is to walk with grace, beauty and dignity as companions.
> Claudia Ocean comes from Turtle Island. She is a Story Teller, Musician, Dancer and Artist. She leads the flute circles and chanting in many languages including Lakota, Cherokee, Iriquois. In the flute circle you will receive a blessing upon your earth walk and be able to play along with some prayer and healing songs.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Autumn on August 24, 2015, 10:58:42 pm
Hi!
It makes me sad to see my Uncle in this section of the forum, simply based on some social media posts... As I know him, his record is impeccable and I've never heard of anyone having had a bad experience with him. He is a humble veteran and stone mason who has dedicated his life to be in service. Everyday he visits cancer patients, sick children and assists veteran and people with addictions, never expecting anything in return. He lives with a meagre pension and only ask for small donations for his public sweats to cover costs. Michael "Walks the Wind" is Navajo and has lived most of his life in Australia, hence the accent and manners... Things are a bit different in Australia, but there is a number of NDNs that live there and some hold perfectly legit ceremonies. Uncle Wind is one of them. Please have consideration when you choose to tarnish someone's reputation publicly. I would invite you to let him know through the Many Birds page on Facebook that you have reported him on this forum. Thank you for your consideration.

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Hi! Roy is my Uncle. While I understand this topic is "Research Needed" I feel strongly to show him respect as my elder by clarifying aspects of his life that were mentioned here and that he shared with me. I am also vouching for his most sincere and genuine intentions and respect of protocols in leading his community in Ottawa, Canada.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3934.0

2turtles, you have a lot of uncles -- and one a Navajo in Australia and one a Mikmaq in Canada??  Isn't that a little odd??
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: earthw7 on August 25, 2015, 01:41:07 pm
very odd, and the only way this man is Deni is by telling who his family is and of course knowing the culture,
What he is doing is not traditional culture if you knew us you would know that. Humble does not make a native person.
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on August 25, 2015, 02:51:57 pm
Louise responded today to my email from January. She wants to know who I am and if the questions of Wind are on the behalf of First Nations people.

Louise, who I am personally is not important. The questions and concerns here on the forum are important.


Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: AClockworkWhite on August 25, 2015, 05:04:25 pm
I wonder if Window rock is aware that there are 2700 Dineh living in Oz like this fraud claims. I will ask a favor from a former Tribal Spokesperson (who still has ties inside the Nation's offices).
Title: Re: "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: educatedindian on August 26, 2015, 02:35:31 pm
Hi!
It makes me sad to see my Uncle in this section of the forum, simply based on some social media posts... As I know him, his record is impeccable and I've never heard of anyone having had a bad experience with him....

Hello Mr. Renaud,
"Two Turtles" is actually Martin Renaud, a French Canadian living in Australia. There are many Martin Renauds online, so let's be careful to not confuse him with others.

Renaud calls himself a performance artist. That means he does bondage and S&M on himself in public and calls it "ceremony." See his site at martinrenaud.com. I'm wondering if Renaud deserves his own thread.

Renaud has no Native ancestry mentioned anywhere online. The "uncle" claim is in the sense of "white guy happy an exploiter is telling me what I want to hear."

Mr. Renaud, nothing Rosser does or says is remotely authentic. Nearly all of it is offensive, stereotypical, and some of it is downright dangerous to the health of anyone involved. Rosser may claim to have ancestry, but any Native in the US can spot the ludicrous flaws so quickly.

Rosser may not make much profit from doing fake and dangerous versions of ceremony. His reward is to feel important and loved by naïve white Australians for telling them what they wish to hear. I'd guess many of them don't share such positive views of Aboriginal people. Hearing an alleged American Indian tell them warm fuzzy lies helps them resolve their cognitive dissonance.
Title: Re: Michael Rosser AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Epiphany on August 26, 2015, 04:10:05 pm
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Genre
Webseries Documentary
Short Description
Producer of "A Journey On Two Turtles - Wisdom of Native American Elders" a 6-parts webseries about the Red Road spiritual path.
Starring
Uncle Michael "Walks the Wind",
Gerardo Arrietta "Mariman",
Christian Bickel,
Gilberto Nova,
Martin Renaud,
Directed By
Martin Renaud
Produced By
Martin Renaud

https://www.facebook.com/twoturtlesproductions/info?tab=page_info (https://www.facebook.com/twoturtlesproductions/info?tab=page_info)

He is touring this project around USA right now.
Title: Re: Michael Rosser AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Defend the Sacred on August 26, 2015, 05:28:18 pm
"twoturtles"/Renaud has his own thread now: http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=4718.0
Title: Re: Michael Rosser AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on January 06, 2017, 05:26:24 pm
Unfortunately, Ben Rosser is following in his father's footsteps. He uses the name "Lightning Horse" https://www.facebook.com/LightningHorseTeachings/?pnref=about.overview https://www.facebook.com/electron.pony?fref=ts

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Lightning Horse is a 73rd generation Navajo medicine man, who teaches a range of techniques and topics to help you to be happy, healthy and stress free.

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Exciting! More beautiful crystal / medicine pouches have arrived. They are all handmade by my Dad, Navajo medicine man, Wind. All of the leather is beautifully soft deer hide, which has been ethically farmed and traditionally blessed.

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Native American Ceremonial Day (Stanthorpe)
18th September

Come along to our Native American ceremonial day, and allow yourself to clear away old and negative energy and detox yourself on all levels. Give yourself a break from the hustle and bustle of modern life, and allow thousands of years of tradition to bring you back to your true self.
During the day, Navajo medicine man Walks The Wind and his son Lightning Horse will be conducting a series of ceremonies, teachings and story-telling for your enjoyment, including:

Pipe Ceremony – Experience a traditional pipe-ceremony with a handmade black stone Bear pipe, carved in North America and blessed by numerous Native American tribes during its journey to Australia.
Sweat Lodge – A detox for the body, mind, heart and spirit. Sweat lodge allows you to really cleanse yourself of negative energy and toxins, while enjoying traditional songs, chanting and prayers, in a beautiful sauna style environment.

Bring yourself along and experience a day you’ll never forget! A $60 donation per person is requested to cover costs of materials. Book now to secure a spot, as places are limited.


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Hi Everyone! :) My Dad (Walks The Wind) will be holding pipe ceremony and sweatlodge on 3rd September at Stanthorpe. Although the ceremonials are not charged for, there is a $120 cost per person to cover materials and other nescessities.

I see on Ben's Facebook page that he is aware that there are many questions concerning his father's claimed heritage. Ben does not give answers, he asks that people look at his father's Facebook page, also contact him (Ben) via FB message. That is very ineffective and could give the group opportunities to indoctrinate more people.  Instead, Ben needs to post here and other public places.
Title: Re: Michael Rosser AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: BenRosser on March 15, 2017, 06:23:15 am
I have read this post and found some interesting points, and have spent much time doing further research. I am no longer claiming in any way to be a Native American person, and have only ever done so as I had believed what I had been told and learned to believe was actually the truth. I'm now very clearly finding through my extensive research that this is not the case. Most people I've met would like to believe that what their parents teach and tell the is the truth, and it is not without a lot of heartache that I find that this isn't the case. The name 'Lightning Horse' is the name that my father gave me several years ago, and is a name I'm now working to disassociate myself with.

I can only speak for myself. What my father chooses to do is up to him, but I will no longer be party to what it is that he is doing. I've never intentionally wanted to disrespect Native American people in any way, and that has never been my intention. To think that I may have done so, even unknowningly, saddens me greatly.

I would like you to remove the name 'Rosser' from this, as it is not my fathers actual last name, and never has been. It is the last name of my step-father, that my mother was with for a number of years, and is no way associated with my father.
Title: Re: Michael Rosser AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on March 15, 2017, 01:50:32 pm
I have read this post and found some interesting points, and have spent much time doing further research. I am no longer claiming in any way to be a Native American person, and have only ever done so as I had believed what I had been told and learned to believe was actually the truth. I'm now very clearly finding through my extensive research that this is not the case. Most people I've met would like to believe that what their parents teach and tell the is the truth, and it is not without a lot of heartache that I find that this isn't the case. The name 'Lightning Horse' is the name that my father gave me several years ago, and is a name I'm now working to disassociate myself with.

I can only speak for myself. What my father chooses to do is up to him, but I will no longer be party to what it is that he is doing. I've never intentionally wanted to disrespect Native American people in any way, and that has never been my intention. To think that I may have done so, even unknowningly, saddens me greatly.

I would like you to remove the name 'Rosser' from this, as it is not my fathers actual last name, and never has been. It is the last name of my step-father, that my mother was with for a number of years, and is no way associated with my father.

Ben, I appreciate your post. I hope that you continue to fully disassociate yourself from your father's false pretense.

You can be a positive role model to others who need to make the same changes you are.

 What is your father's correct surname? What is his actual ancestry? We need to know so that we can continue to correct all the misinformation he spreads. Thank you.
Title: Re: Michael Rosser AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: debbieredbear on March 15, 2017, 06:13:57 pm
Ben, if you tell me his actual last name, I will change this and remove your last name of Rosser from this post.
Title: Re: Michael Rosser AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: BenRosser on March 16, 2017, 12:27:36 am
His actual last name is Borg.
Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on March 16, 2017, 02:39:42 am
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SWEAT LODGE & CONSULTATIONS WITH WIND

Come and join Native American Navajo Shaman and Priest "Wind" for a Sweat Lodge or Consultation at Kupidabin Wilderness.

Wind has walked the roads and pathways in this country for many years now. He calls this land his mother and his eyes see no difference in all the races, colours and creeds of man and woman.

Wind is a Dineh man, an Elder of the fledgling Many Birds, but more so he is simply a man of total service to the Mystery and to our Mother the Earth.

Kupidabin Wilderness is a place of deep conviction when it comes to the Sacred, it is a place of gathering and sharing. In his way Wind has much to give and even more to share, and upon the land amongst the Ancestors, his only desire is to see your smiles, hear your songs and bear witness to your most beauteous prayers.

"I offer my humble gratitude for your time, your passion and truth. May we all hold each other in truth, deep love and all encompassing grace." - Wind

Sweat Lodge Ceremony:

Ceremony begins with 'Welcome to Country' on behalf of the custodians of the Land. A small discussion will follow among the group regarding our hopes and prayers within the ceremony, which includes the presentation of the Sacred Laws and trust that govern our time within Lodge.

A sacred pipe will be shared as family. This is a beautiful way to enrich yourself, your family and all of your relations. At the end of the ceremony we will share a meal together (bring a plate to share).

With our hearts still open there will be stories told, including the story of 'Jumping Mouse' the story of a great journey, and 'Journey of the Spider', a story of physical transformation.

When:

2pm to 6pm, Sunday 4th June, 2017

2pm to 6pm, Sunday 11th June, 2017

Cost:

$80 per person
(bring a plate to share)

Places are limited so bookings are essential. Contact us for bookings or inquiries.

 
Consultations:

One-on-one appointments with Wind can be arranged regarding all facets of 'Life's Wheel'; Body, Mind, Heart & Spirit.

When:

Wind is available for consultations from Tuesday, 6th June to Friday 9th June.

Cost:

$50 per hour

Bookings are essential. Contact us for bookings or inquiries.

http://kupidabin.com/index.php/events/sweat-lodge-consultations-with-wind

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Kupidabin Wilderness is a place of peace and harmony with the goal of helping to preserve the beliefs, traditions and ceremonies of indigenous cultures of Australia and world wide, aiming to share this knowledge and experience with all people to allow them to have happier and more fulfilling lives.

Kupidabin Wilderness Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/Kupidabin/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE&fref=nf
Email: info@kupidabin.org

http://kupidabin.com/index.php/contact-us
Title: Re: Michael Rosser AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on March 16, 2017, 10:56:47 pm
His actual last name is Borg.

Thank you Ben.

I can see strong family resemblance with some other Borgs on social media.

I see that your contact information has been taken down from the Kupadin Wilderness site. I wish you well as you continue to withdraw support for Michael Borg's misrepresentations.
Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: BenRosser on March 17, 2017, 05:38:16 am
The unfortunate thing I've learnt from this situation in the last week is that people he has 'helped' want to believe in him that badly that they'll fight to protect him regardless of how blatant the lies are, and how many of those lies are brought to light. In standing up for what is right, I'm the one that will be shunned by all of those people. My father believes his own lies to the extent that even when I call him out on them he is in no way willing to admit to it. I doubt that even the upcoming DNA test results will likely make a difference.

Even with Kupidabin, which I've spent a couple of months making my home. The owners are extremely genuine people and have helped me in a huge amount of ways since I've been here, and I have a lot of love and respect for them and what they are trying to achieve. Despite the evidence they are content to continue to allow him to do ceremony. I can't force people to see what they don't want to see.

Over the last few years, I've given up most of my 'modern' life and possessions to find and fulfill whatever purpose I have in this lifetime, as fulfilling my purpose is the only thing that is truly important to me. Just as I thought I'd found it, I realise it's all a lie and I basically have to rebuild my entire life from scratch. Not the birthday present I was hoping for.
Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on March 17, 2017, 04:33:05 pm
The unfortunate thing I've learnt from this situation in the last week is that people he has 'helped' want to believe in him that badly that they'll fight to protect him regardless of how blatant the lies are, and how many of those lies are brought to light. In standing up for what is right, I'm the one that will be shunned by all of those people. My father believes his own lies to the extent that even when I call him out on them he is in no way willing to admit to it. I doubt that even the upcoming DNA test results will likely make a difference.

Even with Kupidabin, which I've spent a couple of months making my home. The owners are extremely genuine people and have helped me in a huge amount of ways since I've been here, and I have a lot of love and respect for them and what they are trying to achieve. Despite the evidence they are content to continue to allow him to do ceremony. I can't force people to see what they don't want to see.

Over the last few years, I've given up most of my 'modern' life and possessions to find and fulfill whatever purpose I have in this lifetime, as fulfilling my purpose is the only thing that is truly important to me. Just as I thought I'd found it, I realise it's all a lie and I basically have to rebuild my entire life from scratch. Not the birthday present I was hoping for.

Ben, I've been in a similar situation. Mine did not involve direct family, but it did involve my survival - my identity, community, where I lived, etc.

I am helped immensely by learning about sociology, group dynamics, skepticism, mental illness, abusive relationships, con artists, civil and human rights, and pretendianism.

Some things that helped me when I left a group:

Warning signs of a potentially unsafe leader: https://www.culteducation.com/warningsigns.html
Post cult adjustment: https://www.culteducation.com/group/17911-cults-in-our-midst-leaving-a-cult-and-recoverings.html
Reading other people's stories: https://forum.culteducation.com
All the fantastic resources here at NAFPS, learning that "playing Indian" is not a benign playful activity

The word "cult" bothers people a lot, but I encourage you to persist and look over educational materials about cults (destructive groups). Destructive groups can be warm and friendly. Lots of smiles and activities to keep people busy. Delusional and/or con artist people can be charming, charismatic, creative. A destructive group and leader may never fit a Hollywood horror movie type portrayal.

Many white, non-Indigenous people really really want to play New Age Indian. We want the supposed romance, earth centered, specialness. But really, we are being self centered narcissistic jerks.

Ben, you are leaving a toxic system. You may not be able to convince anyone else in the group to think clearly. The mental pull to stay in a system of lies is very strong, it can be hard to shake.

You can be a role model. Someone else may eventually be able to start entertaining doubts.

I hope you reach out for support. Books and related web sites can be very helpful. This chart https://www.culteducation.com/group/17911-cults-in-our-midst-leaving-a-cult-and-recoverings.html about life adjustments is worth bookmarking and referring to often.



Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on March 17, 2017, 04:54:23 pm
Ben, here is some additional information. A DNA test is not the entire answer. What ultimately is important is what community claims us. Michael Borg is not claimed by the Navajo Nation. He is not enrolled. If he was a descendant, not enrolled but with strong community ties, he should not be doing what he is doing in Australia now. Even if he was enrolled, his teachings are false.

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A person MUST be at least 1/4 (one quarter) Navajo to be enrolled as a member of the Navajo Nation.

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Individual tribes determine tribal membership.

http://www.navajo-nsn.gov/contact.htm

Concerning his carved dolls, if he was in the United States he could not legally sell them with the claims he makes:

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It is illegal to offer or display for sale, or sell any art or craft product in a manner that falsely suggests it is Indian produced, an Indian product, or the product of a particular Indian or Indian Tribe or Indian arts and crafts organization, resident within the United States.

https://www.doi.gov/iacb/act

If Michael Borg has any North American people, a genealogy work up could be helpful. I'd be willing to look for records. Ben, feel free to message me if you like, or post the information publicly. Several people here on the forum have experience doing records and family history checks.
Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: BenRosser on March 18, 2017, 12:16:25 am
I don't take any offense to the use of the word 'cult', it is a word I myself have been using for the last week, as by its very definition it clearly describes what he has created with the 'Many Birds tribe' around Sydney.

Is there any legal basis in Australia for shutting him down? I do not wish to see his lies perpetuated any further, and any more people impacted by what he is doing. Even though he and many others genuinely believe he is trying to help them, I believe that you cannot help someone if how you are helping them is based on lies and mistruth. The analogy that keeps coming to mind is that even the most beautiful house will begin to crumble and affect those within if it is built on shoddy foundations.

I have a lot of information about his 'story' that is not posted online on his Facebook page, and the many holes in it, from his supposed 'lineage' and how it came to be, to who his teachers apparently were as far as sweat lodge ceremony, the red-stone buffalo pipe he carries that is apparently 500 years old, and his connection and communication with 'Grandmother Spider' who he says lives on Third Mesa on the Hopi reservation. I've actually been creating a list of it all, just to be able to make sense of it for myself.

What is the best process for disseminating that information so that the truth can come to light? Even the owners of Kupidabin would likely not allow him to conduct ceremony here if they saw the truth clearly enough, they have turned away fake shamans previously when the right evidence has been presented in a way that is simply not an attack on them.

I know a little about psychology, and enough to know that the only way that the situation with my father can be resolved in all aspects, and with all of the people he has affected, is by calmly presenting the whole truth and allowing people to take it in. If people attack the situation, the only response will be other people getting defensive and completely disregarding what they are told.
Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on March 18, 2017, 01:20:49 am
Ben, even when calmly told the truth, some people will get defensive and disregard what they are told, so be prepared for that. We see this happen relatively often here on the forum.

We all get to have healthy boundaries. If we speak the truth, and someone claims we are attacking them, that is their issue.

Reading up about Scientology can be very useful. So many people, in so many ways, speak  the truth about Scientology. Yet cultic beliefs are stubborn.

Keep writing, keep noting things down on a list. You can write here, this forum is read quite actively, and there are many knowledgeable folks here. You can tell us what you know, ask questions, and learn from all sorts of discussions here.

This cult education forum can be helpful too https://forum.culteducation.com Read through this site https://www.culteducation.com regularly to get ideas on how information about cults can be communicated.

You could run your own blog. Some examples of education blogs: This about a cultic New Age group http://psychologyofvision.blogspot.com, and this on Scientology http://tonyortega.org  You could post flyers around town with your your blog url. You could run a related Facebook education page.

Here is Cult Consulting Australia http://www.cultconsulting.org/about-us (I don't know anything about them.)

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What is the best process for disseminating that information so that the truth can come to light?

The best way is to keep at it. Keep writing, posting, talking, learning. You may have been taught to walk on eggshells, taught to believe that you have to behave and think a specific perfect pure way. But you don't have to walk on eggshells. You get to try things out, make mistakes and learn from them, adjust and refine as you go along.

The cult I was part of still exists. But there is now a lot of information about them online. They sued a cult expert for daring to call them a cult - and they lost in court. That process generated more public information about them.

Your information may save someone from falling for Michael's deceptions. Your information may help a current follower begin to think more clearly.

If you know of anything illegal, please do report it.
Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: BenRosser on March 18, 2017, 01:39:04 am
I would like to add that while I personally intent to continue to pursue spirituality in general, as it is something very important to me, I will be doing it in a way that doesn't disrespect any indigenous culture, as I completely agree that no one should steal or misappropriate the culture of a people/community that they do not belong to.

I would like to present my thoughts and findings about this to others from a scientific point of view for them to take or leave as they choose, as science, scientific method and research has always been important to me, and is what has enabled me to see the truth of my father. I do hope I'm not going to be attacked by people from this forum for choosing to present these things to other people. I have no intention or desire to create a cult of my own. I only wish to share with people some of my own understanding of the universe itself, in a way that is honourable and respectable.

I am more than happy to continue with trying to shut down what my father is doing, as I don't feel it is respectful to misappropriate another's culture through fraud, or to manipulate people with lies.
Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on March 18, 2017, 03:13:58 am
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... doesn't disrespect any indigenous culture, as I completely agree that no one should steal or misappropriate the culture of a people/community that they do not belong to.

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I am more than happy to continue with trying to shut down what my father is doing, as I don't feel it is respectful to misappropriate another's culture through fraud, or to manipulate people with lies.

This sounds good.

I can only speak for myself. I only help research pretendian frauds, cultural appropriators, and destructive leaders. Behavior is what matters. 

If you fear being attacked because of past connection to your father's behavior, the answer is to keep carving out your own way. Keep learning. Help educate others. Don't do what he is doing. 


Suggested reading: http://www.newagefraud.org

                                http://www.aics.org/war.html
Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on March 18, 2017, 03:52:46 pm
Where was Michael Borg born? Where was he raised?

Where were his grandparents born and raised?

How long has he run the 'Many Birds tribe' cult? How many core followers does he have?

He says he served in Australian military, is this true?

What is Joanne's involvement?

Where does $ go?

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I have a lot of information about his 'story' that is not posted online on his Facebook page, and the many holes in it, from his supposed 'lineage' and how it came to be, to who his teachers apparently were as far as sweat lodge ceremony, the red-stone buffalo pipe he carries that is apparently 500 years old, and his connection and communication with 'Grandmother Spider' who he says lives on Third Mesa on the Hopi reservation. I've actually been creating a list of it all, just to be able to make sense of it for myself.

What are Michael Borg's  lineage claims?
How have his claims evolved over time?

What does he say about the pipe and what is the truth?

What claims does he make about 'Grandmother Spider'?
Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on April 06, 2017, 02:48:17 am
Some changes on the Kupidabin site:

On March 16:

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SWEAT LODGE & CONSULTATIONS WITH WIND

Come and join Native American Navajo Shaman and Priest "Wind" for a Sweat Lodge or Consultation at Kupidabin Wilderness.

Wind has walked the roads and pathways in this country for many years now. He calls this land his mother and his eyes see no difference in all the races, colours and creeds of man and woman.

Wind is a Dineh man, an Elder of the fledgling Many Birds, but more so he is simply a man of total service to the Mystery and to our Mother the Earth.

Now:

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SWEAT LODGE & CONSULTATIONS WITH WIND
Come and join Shaman and Priest "Wind" for a Sweat Lodge or Consultation at Kupidabin Wilderness.

Wind has walked the roads and pathways in this country for many years now. He calls this land his mother and his eyes see no difference in all the races, colours and creeds of man and woman.

Wind is an Elder of the fledgling Many Birds, but more so he is simply a man of total service to the Mystery and to our Mother the Earth.

So the words "Native American Navajo" and "Dineh man" have been removed.

http://kupidabin.com/index.php/events/sweat-lodge-consultations-with-wind
Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on March 19, 2018, 03:57:41 pm
Unfortunately Ben (Michael's son) after writing this in March 2017 :

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I would like to add that while I personally intent to continue to pursue spirituality in general, as it is something very important to me, I will be doing it in a way that doesn't disrespect any indigenous culture, as I completely agree that no one should steal or misappropriate the culture of a people/community that they do not belong to.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=0ntkhukq87udkqqjf0kqv3fff5&topic=4535.msg43599#msg43599

.......... was doing this in November 2017:

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Crystal Meditation Ceremony - Kyla & Ben

Join Kyla and Ben, and their Crystal Merkabah for a relaxing and profound meditation and journey ceremony.
The crystal meditation ceremony utilises a set of crystals that form a Merkabah, or ‘light-body’ that the ceremony is performed within. The Merkabah and ceremony is based on a combination Hopi medicine wheel teachings and Chakra teachings.

http://www.kupidabin.org/index.php/events/four-winds-gathering

Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on October 29, 2018, 10:29:09 pm
The Many Birds Lodge Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/The-Many-Birds-Lodge-998738110140282/ has an October 6th post stating that Michael Borg/"Wind" has died.

He is referred to as "White Eagle Road Priest".

Unfortunately it looks like this cult plans to continue on. The three main leaders look to be Joanne Mary Proctor, "Hummingbird Sandra Newton Kearnes", and "Wolf of the Indigo Moon Anthony Smith".

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This page is dedicated to the teaching of that man. Between the three of us, we will continue a page full of the teachings of law and love that is simply the great universe of ancestral knowledge, experience, as it has been taught and shown to us all by the White Eagle Road Priest.

Borg's self published books https://windsbooks.weebly.com/?fbclid=IwAR0nM7xd3OsqZglv5-vR_7K6KMXNACzdiRfCGLsYV7zhvx1laUS-87d2TLo (archived https://web.archive.org/web/20181029221212/https://windsbooks.weebly.com/?fbclid=IwAR0nM7xd3OsqZglv5-vR_7K6KMXNACzdiRfCGLsYV7zhvx1laUS-87d2TLo )

The group had "Nagii Azee Foundation". This business has the status of "cancelled" according to the Australian Securities and Investments Commission.
Title: Re: Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind" & Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on October 30, 2018, 08:22:48 pm
The "Hummingbird Sandra Newton Kearnes" mentioned above is Sandy Newton on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/snewtonkearnes

She has a home organizing business "World Bridger Holistic Organising" http://holisticorganiser.com/about/

Note that she refers to herself as "hummingbird" here:

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I’m Sandy. Creature of Change, Intuitive Sacred Space Agent, Holistic Organiser, Interior Alignment Specialist, Chaos & Order expert, Feng Shui consultant, Worldbridger, Energy weaver, Earth Spirit, Hummingbird, Master Declutterer, Softly-wise woman, Mumma of 2 little people and believer in Magic, Tipis, Stardust and Infinite possibilities.

I have a love for American Indian Sacred ways, stories and ceremonies, a love and deep appreciation for the Old world and its ways of wisdom, a love for the Ancients and our Ancestors and the mysterious ways life can weave wonder and magic into the everyday things. I love the Earth Mother. And I love finding the gifts in Chaos – transformation!

My mission is to raise the vibration in your home, to help you understand the energy of clutter.
Title: Re: Many Birds Lodge, Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind," Joanne Proctor
Post by: educatedindian on October 30, 2018, 09:43:22 pm
Ms. Newton resembles every clueless sorority sister gleefully playing NDN at Halloween.

That "lodge" has had 14 events, including fake sweats. This is incredibly dangerous and reckless, perhaps a matter of time until they kill or injure people.

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 https://allevents.in/org/the-many-birds-lodge/6679628
The Many Birds LodgeOrganizer Page
0 FOLLOWERS
14 PAST EVENTS

PAST EVENTS
LODGE Sun Feb 25 2018 at 11:00 am

LODGE Sun Feb 11 2018 at 09:00 am

Sweat Lodge 18 November Sat Nov 18 2017 at 12:00 pm
Swami Sarasvati Rejuvenation Retreat, Kenthurst, Australia

The FunDeMentals of Prophecy! Sat Nov 11 2017 at 04:00 pm

The Jaguars Emergence Sun Jul 30 2017 at 05:00 pm
Swami's Yoga Retreat, 183 Pitt Town Road, Kenthurst, Australia

Lodge at Swami Sarasvati's Rejuvenation Retreat! Sun Jul 09 2017 at 11:00 am
Swami Sarasvati Rejuvenation Resort, 183-185 Pitt Town Rd, Kenthurst, Australia

The Star Seed and it's Harvest Sat Jun 17 2017 at 07:00 pm

Lodge Gathering Fri Mar 04 2016 at 05:00 pm
Greenvalleys Mountain Bike Park, Illawarra Highway, Tongarra, Australia

Women's Lodge and Sacred teaching Sun Feb 28 2016 at 01:00 am
The Lyell Deer Sanctuary at Mt Samson, Queensland, Brisbane, Australia

Men's Lodge Fri Feb 26 2016 at 07:30 am
The Lyell Deer Sanctuary at Mt Samson, Queensland, Brisbane, Australia

Queensland Lodge and Dance for all Beings Fri Feb 12 2016 at 08:00 am
The Lyell Deer Sanctuary at Mt Samson, Queensland, Brisbane, Australia

An Invitation to Speak Sat Apr 11 2015 at 11:00 am
Hyde Park, Sydney, Australia

Quest For self Fri Apr 03 2015 at 12:00 am Mt Yengo

Sweat Lodge Ceremony Sun Mar 15 2015 at 09:00 am
Swami Sarasvati Rejuvenation Retreat, Kenthurst , Sydney, Australia

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Borg also had four goofy Nuage books self published. Books would be an exaggeration. They are 30-55 pg collections of hand written stories and drawings on construction paper. Each resemble a fifth grader's art project.
And he charges $25 for each of 'em. But there's no reviews or ratings of them, no sign anyone bought them.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1?ie=UTF8&text=Walks+The+Wind&search-alias=books&field-author=Walks+The+Wind&sort=relevancerank

Funny how he claims to have written a traditional story about dolphins...not too many of them on the Dineh homeland around Four Corners. And another supposed traditional story about a Buddhist nun.
Title: Re: Many Birds Lodge, Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind," Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on October 31, 2018, 01:20:50 am
Borg's 2016 Buddhist nun story:

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I went as a Guide/Warrior to the Buddhist Nun, Ajahn Thanasanti and a beautiful, gentle woman from NZ who was to assist the Nun and act as our chaperone.
It is a long story with many miraculous moments, but to be brief, Sister Thanasanti had received a ‘vision’ while staying at a Monastery in Colorado USA, she had been directed to travel to Australia, to find a man called Wind and then journey to Yengo. Once there, upon the summit, she was to perform a Ceremony of great significance to all Peoples.
Thanasanti received the blessings from her Abbott and Order, we were educated by the Elders, given information on the archaeological surveys and sites, and instructed on where to go and how to be once there. Elders from two of the Land Councils asked me to locate to ‘ancient things’ that had gone ‘missing’ when their country was invaded two hundred years previous. We all made our promises, and to this day I have kept them all.
The Nun made it to the top, we found what was lost, we returned safe, all three of us very different in our thoughts and being. A white person, a red person and a person of the yellow people walked those miles together, they climbed cliffs, slept in caves, they endured much and with each step they held the people of the black in their hearts and souls.


https://www.facebook.com/notes/the-many-birds-lodge/walking-the-lines-a-prismatic-expression/1279828912031199/

Ajahn ?hanasanti/ Amma Thanasanti Bhikkhuni has a Facebook page and website https://awakeningtruth.org/
 She has posts in both places from 2016, I've not found any sign of this story.

So, according to Borg, locals asked him to help locate sacred things that they had lost?! "Elders from two of the Land Councils asked me to locate to ‘ancient things’ that had gone ‘missing’ when their country was invaded two hundred years previous.".

This is nonsense. There is the Aboriginal Heritage Information Management System, active since the 1970s, that works with Local Aboriginal Land Councils and others to document everything. If Borg or others ever found anything not yet recorded, they would simply make a report, this is not a sign of specialness or anything.

Plus this bit: "A white person, a red person and a person of the yellow people walked those miles together, they climbed cliffs, slept in caves, they endured much and with each step they held the people of the black in their hearts and souls."
Title: Re: Many Birds Lodge, Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind," Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on November 02, 2018, 12:28:26 am
Along with falsely claiming to be Navajo, conducting dangerous sweats, and generally being a pretendian cultic leader, Michael Borg also made up b.s. about Australia:

(via Joanne Mary Proctor, regarding Mount Yengo in New South Wales Australia)

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no one, with the exception of my Man, who the Dharug People asked to go there and confirm what was up there, on their behalf.

Joanne Mary Proctor

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Joanne Mary Proctor

Also the Dalai Lama asked Wind to take the Kwanin Nun to the top of Yengo to activate a sacred site on top of Yengo. This ended up being a 3 day trek through the scrub to the top and back. 30km in thick scrub bush uncharted ever before. The Kwanin Nun wore woollen robes and sandles! Wind was assigned as her warrior for the journey and got her to the top and back. This is a documented story and tells of an adventure that runs like a raiders of the lost ark movie! Truth

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152663796885388&set=pb.596810387.-2207520000.1541116639.&type=3&theater
Title: Re: Many Birds Lodge, Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind," Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on December 04, 2018, 02:22:51 am
From a post on their The Many Birds Lodge facebook page:

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The Many Birds, named after his own family line, will always be a Hopi/Navajo influenced hoop.

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Our dream is to hold Sundance in Australia with Elders and authorisation.
Title: Re: Many Birds Lodge, Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind," Joanne Proctor
Post by: educatedindian on December 04, 2018, 01:40:17 pm
Kearnes's holistic organizer page has been suspended. The Allevents.in page shows nothing for this phony lodge since February. Seemingly they're not doing well.


Kupidabin hasn't hosted them in awhile. They have some other dubious characters there that I'm starting a thread or threads about.
Title: Re: Many Birds Lodge, Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind," Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on January 13, 2019, 02:48:02 am
Michael Borg is also referred to as "Wazzii". Joanne Mary Proctor says he left her "sacred pipes".

According to recent posts on Facebook, this group has been directly told that they are fraudulent. They characterize this as being "bullied".

Proctor explains away Borg's lack of connection with his supposed NDN community by saying that he was too busy being of service. She says that connecting would have been an "indulgence" that he did not have time for. But that maybe if he had done so that would have prevented "ongoing attacks"/ criticism.

Also:

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They incorrectly believe we are a cult you see, they are too far away from us here in Australia to see the truth.

She recently met Andrew Pollis "Thunderdog" at a ceremony in Australia. She describes him as "a dine man" who reminds her of Borg.

(Andrew Pollis http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=5292.0 )

Proctor encourages people to attend the regular ceremonies held by another white couple in the area. This is where she met Pollis. Concerning this group she says:

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I can honestly say, I have spoken with either a Native American elder or a initiated First Australian at each ceremony I have attended at James and Lara’s gatherings.

James McCaskie in NSW, Australia is holding men's groups, ceremonies, drum circles, and recently said he was on a vision quest including a sweat lodge.

From recent post by McCaskie:

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I have been very blessed to spend time close to one of North Americas most renowned Medicine Men…
I am fortunate as we would say in the west, to have been through ‘my ceremonies’ or ‘initiations’ with this man….

I don't know who McCaskie is referring to.
Title: Re: Many Birds Lodge, Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind," Joanne Proctor
Post by: Sparks on January 13, 2019, 03:41:02 pm
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They incorrectly believe we are a cult you see, they are too far away from us here in Australia to see the truth.

At this URL: https://www.facebook.com/998738110140282/photos/a.1004895996191160/

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James McCaskie in NSW, Australia is holding men's groups, ceremonies, drum circles, and recently said he was on a vision quest including a sweat lodge.

From recent post by McCaskie:

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I have been very blessed to spend time close to one of North Americas most renowned Medicine Men…
I am fortunate as we would say in the west, to have been through ‘my ceremonies’ or ‘initiations’ with this man….

I don't know who McCaskie is referring to.

Here, many comments: https://www.facebook.com/james.mccaskie.1/posts/2858597080832610

(Hoping that someone will ask who the "Medicine Man" is …)
Title: Re: Many Birds Lodge, Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind," Joanne Proctor
Post by: Piff on February 23, 2019, 04:08:25 am
This is part of a Jan 14 post written on The Many Birds Lodge Facebook page by Joanna Proctor:

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Families, I want to share a laugh with you today! Many of you may already know a lot of the stories around a man’s journey to becoming a road priest. The teachings of his Grandmama and his Uncle Leonard, that began when he was so very young, came to fruition when our man, approaching middle age, beaten and resigned after soldiering and, for all kinds of reasons, trouble in his family, got a hairbrain idea with his ex soldier mates to rob a bank of the same amount of money the bank wanted to foreclose on somebody’s Granma’s house!

… How they did this, and got away with it, to have another go on behalf of someone else’s Grandma a few months later, is a unbelievable and riotous story all on it’s own…

Landing his butt in jail, the inevitable outcome eventually, is a story of survival, and a testimony to the man’s ability to be liked and have a presence, in every single camp. He was given 8 years, was pardoned at 8 months, The beginning of the journey when a ‘medicine man’s’ path was realised, yet not quite born, it is beautiful how from the lowest, darkest places humans can find their truest most powerful gifts. As I piece through his lifetime biography and fantastic life stories, I simply had to share, with deep pride and the widest smile upon my face, this poem he wrote in Sail Jail in 1990 about...
... that fateful day he got caught robbing a bank…

The poem basically claims that Borg and friends were stoned and drunk when they organized to rob a bank, only to discover that the bank was closed due to a holiday.

There is no explanation as to his supposed arrest and incarceration.

Title: Re: Many Birds Lodge, Michael Borg AKA "Walks the Wind," Joanne Proctor
Post by: Sparks on September 21, 2021, 12:26:34 am
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They incorrectly believe we are a cult you see, they are too far away from us here in Australia to see the truth.

At this URL: https://www.facebook.com/998738110140282/photos/a.1004895996191160/

James McCaskie in NSW, Australia is holding men's groups, ceremonies, drum circles, and recently said he was on a vision quest including a sweat lodge.

From recent post by McCaskie:


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I have been very blessed to spend time close to one of North Americas most renowned Medicine Men…
I am fortunate as we would say in the west, to have been through ‘my ceremonies’ or ‘initiations’ with this man….

I don't know who McCaskie is referring to.

Here, many comments: https://www.facebook.com/james.mccaskie.1/posts/2858597080832610

(Hoping that someone will ask who the "Medicine Man" is …)

The first Facebook URL I link to has gone away. The second one is still there.

James McCaskie recently got his own thread, started by educatedindian:

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=5560.0 [James McCaskie & One Living Earth Foundation]

So "one of North Americas most renowned Medicine Men" is [Leonard] Crow Dog, then, according to that topic.

There is also the reference to "Uncle Leonard" in the previous post by Piff, in the present thread.