Nothing new about a bunch of carpet-munchers playing NDN.
...there is also a small but fierce number of feminists, of varying orientations but often lesbians, who I've seen stand up for First Nations rights, and work hard to educate other women in these matters.
the women's spirituality scene has been appalling when it comes to cultural appropriation. Most of the people who attend Newage events and fill the shameons pockets are middle-class, middle-age, white women.
The Standing Rock Sioux does not support this type of activity.
Earth7QuoteThe Standing Rock Sioux does not support this type of activity.
I have heard of women being Sundancers , even to the point of being pierced . But then I've also heard the woman just being support to the men who danced , mainly by seeing to the practical running of the camp and seeing everyone had what they need .
Were these woman, who were talked about in the first article , disrespecting some important protocols in doing what they did ?
Do most Lakota believe there are parts of the Sundance that should be restricted to men ?
At what point is a woman participating in a Sundance crossing a line and being disrespectful ?
I don't know if this is something people feel comfortable to explain , but it is something I have wondered about .
I'm guessing proper respect for traditional protocols , would be what's most important. But I have heard so many different things I'm not sure what they are .
The lesbian Sun Dance was born in St. John, Ariz., with 13 Native Americans and 87 other women participating. It was later moved to women’s land in Vermont.
I guess the problem we see is the lesbian sundance. we are taught that these people are a part of our nation and are treated with respect. They are not allowed in the sun dance circle, they can help in camp and help the people but can't dance.
I guess the problem we see is the lesbian sundance. we are taught that these people are a part of our nation and are treated with respect. They are not allowed in the sun dance circle, they can help in camp and help the people but can't dance.
Thanks for your post, earthw. I'm a bit confused, though. Could you please clarify what you mean by "these people" who can help but not dance? Do only men dance at your Sundances? Or do you mean that among your people lesbians in particular should not dance, even when women dance?
Quotethe women's spirituality scene has been appalling when it comes to cultural appropriation. Most of the people who attend Newage events and fill the shameons pockets are middle-class, middle-age, white women.
This is why I quit subscribing to MS magazine. The last straw was when they had to pages of letters to the editor whining about how no one could tell THEM what to believe. They totally missed that they were as guilty of opressing Indian women as they said men were guilty of opressong them. The magazine really had littel for poor women, let alone poor Indian Indian women.
Beverly Little Thunder is personally responsible for creating hundreds, possibly thousands, of pretendians herself.
The disclaimers posted above about her only letting Natives dance, lead ceremony, etc, are completely untrue.See attached screencaps from her website, where she wrote about her goal "to teach the traditions and ceremonies of her Lakota heritage" and her "vision of sharing the ceremonies of her heritage with people of all nationalities" and allowing them "to learn and participate in the spiritual practices of the Lakota nation."